Program owners - will you sell your shit if Manwin makes you an offer?

[MrDeiz]

Post here if you'd like to sell your shit to Manwin or post why you won't

Let's save the time for each other

[Danmixz]

Sure they will, for the right price...

[Fabien]

Everything is always on sale

[L-Pink]

Most here would sell their mothers.

[Klen]

I did offered them and they reject it,seems they buying only tubes and paysites.Seems that was good since i tripled my income since then ;)I find it funny how they dont know to manage other types of sites.

[MaDalton]

i doubt the public GFY opinion matters to someone who gets an offer that allows him to retire

[MrDeiz]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

i doubt the public GFY opinion matters to someone who gets an offer that allows him to retire

that's not OP's point

[seeandsee]

I will sell it for right price, why not...

[DarkJedi]

Originally Posted by seeandsee

I will sell it for right price, why not...

sell what? your sig?

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by MrDeiz

that's not OP's point

so whats your point - starting a witch hunt after those that say they would?

[alextokyo]

Cash rules everything around me, cream, get the money, dollah dollah bill y'all.

[DWB]

I think everyone would sell their company if the price is right regardless of who the buyer is. Even those who strongly disagree with their business model or practices would sell to them if it was an offer they could not refuse, especially in today's climate.

They are going to end up owning everything anyway so it's all pretty pointless at this point. They are like The Borg.

[LeRoy]

Recently had a meeting with another manager here @ DTI. Been with the co. 10 years plus.

I said Manwin is taking over. He says "Who are they"

I had to chuckle

[gleem]

I think any program would if offered the right multiple in this environment. Just a matter of which programs would sell for like 6 months of rebills, and which would hold out for 1 or 2 years rebills.

[DoubleT]

Originally Posted by DWB

I think everyone would sell their company if the price is right regardless of who the buyer is. Even those who strongly disagree with their business model or practices would sell to them if it was an offer they could not refuse, especially in today's climate.

They are going to end up owning everything anyway so it's all pretty pointless at this point. They are like The Borg.

Ya, agree with this 100%.
I am more interested to see what things will look like 3 -4 yrs down the road.
Successfully managing all of these these programs, people, offices, content, billing, traffic etc and paying back these loans is huge logistical challenge. All the while they are constantly acquiring new stuff along the way. Time will tell, is this a smashing success or massive train wreck? Sounds like so far , so good - at least from the outside looking in.

[TrashyContent]

Well I run two programs www.GirlieCash.com and www.BittieBucks.com as well as out content business www.TrashyContent.com and I personally would never sell our company, but then I have two business partners so it wouldn't be my decision ultimitly...

But like someone said I guess everything as a price... I guess it just depends if a buyer ever met my valuation of what I believe our business is worth...

[biskoppen]

$3M and they can have mine ;)

[baddog]

As a broker of sites and programs, I am pretty sure if I told a client, "hey, I have someone that wants to buy, but it is Manwin," the response would be the same as if I told them it was you. They would sell.

Never had someone give me the condition of who not to sell it to.

[shimmy2]

straight up, my answer is no. if i ran cookie cutter sites with non exclusive content then sure, but considering the years i put into projects, the risks taken, personal crap thats likely meaningless to other people etc nah i wouldnt sell out to anyone. call it a vain but no i couldnt give up the wheel

[HandballJim]

whats their buyers contact info?

[baddog]

Originally Posted by HandballJim

whats their buyers contact info?

[MrDeiz]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

so whats your point - starting a witch hunt after those that say they would?

nope. just asking
guys can even offer their stuff in this thread, who knows

don't mind selling my stuff to Manwin as well

[suesheboy]

Take all my adult for $10,000 and I will be on my way...

[Mutt]

you mean because of Manwin/Brazzer's tube sites? wouldn't care at all, i'd take the money.

but nobody, including Manwin pays enough that i'd sell for 2 years profits - whether it was 2000 dollars in profits or 2 million. UNLESS i had some other business venture/investment I needed the capital for.

[Yngwie]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Most here would sell their mothers.

What's your offer for my mother? Lets make a deal.

[NaughtyRob]

Come on dude, you know thats bullshit. If they offered you a few Million you would take it.

Originally Posted by shimmy2

straight up, my answer is no. if i ran cookie cutter sites with non exclusive content then sure, but considering the years i put into projects, the risks taken, personal crap thats likely meaningless to other people etc nah i wouldnt sell out to anyone. call it a vain but no i couldnt give up the wheel

[raymor]

That's an interesting question. I've turned down more than one opportunity because I don't do business with people lacing in ethics. (At least not knowingly.) On the other hand, if they decided to do some vertical integration, which would be the next logical step for them, it would be hard to turn down an offer that would let me semi-retire at 36 years old.

I suspect for the right price I'd have two conditions that would cleanly separate me from them. I walk away clean, rather than say becoming a Manwin employee for a year of transition, and they clearly brand it so webmasters know they are buying from Manwin, not from me. Then webmasters could decide if they wanted to buy Manwin Strongbox or Manwin Throttlebox

[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by alextokyo

Cash rules everything around me, cream, get the money, dollah dollah bill y'all.

Old school. Nice.

[2intense]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Most here would sell their mothers.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by shimmy2

straight up, my answer is no. if i ran cookie cutter sites with non exclusive content then sure, but considering the years i put into projects, the risks taken, personal crap thats likely meaningless to other people etc nah i wouldnt sell out to anyone. call it a vain but no i couldnt give up the wheel

thats easily said when you have something that you know thats not interesting for them anyways

[Mr Pheer]

For a low 6-figure amount I'd sell them my complete portfolio of domains and my entire blackhat operation, and GFY would never see me again.

[Radical Bucks]

If Manwin offered a solid $50million the yes.

[GARY LEE]

Of course, anything is for sale. I would want to stay in the industry though. So I would only sell with conditions as I could take the money and start fresh in adult again, or I would have a job waiting with Manwin.

[sojproductions]

I would sell for the right price, but 10 months sales figures wouldn't cut it, way too cheap for a solid business that nets good profit year after year... that the one flaw with adult sites, sale value is not worth selling.

[The Ghost]

Originally Posted by sojproductions

I would sell for the right price, but 10 months sales figures wouldn't cut it, way too cheap for a solid business that nets good profit year after year... that the one flaw with adult sites, sale value is not worth selling.

The 6mo-12mo is just tossed around as a basic figure. Can also be directed more towards freesites or sites without exclusive content. No one with a stable business would go for that unless they are flat out desperate. The dynamics of a real sale are much more complicated than a simple multiple. How the content has already been monetized, the organic traffic it receives, shelf life on the content, value of the domain(s), the hunger of the seller/buyer and many other tangible selling points. Personally I'd have to hear offers in YEARS to even look up. Then again we're still growing and 1 yr + ahead on produced exclusive content.

[cherrylula]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Most here would sell their mothers.

I think they already did, and spent the money too.

[cherrylula]

do they own GFY yet? that's all I want to know.

[shimmy2]

ask all the artists who resold their residual rights to BMG and columbia house catalogs in the "12 cds for 1 cent" era

[MrDeiz]

Originally Posted by cherrylula

do they own GFY yet? that's all I want to know.

I do believe Panos/AVN is very close with them

[Chosen]

I wonder who wouldn't sell their shit

[Due]

By the looks of it isn't manwin buying up companiesbandb programs who own massive exclusive content libraries ?

[mikesouth]

Even I would sell to Manwin for the right price Probably...would I sell to .XXX NO WAY for ANY PRICE

[mikesouth]

I have heard for a very long time that Manwwin is really the owner of AVN. I also heard recently that Webazilla is the real owner of AVN. I can't prove either one but I know for sure someone is going to GREAT lengths to hide the true ownership of AVN and that alone makes me (and a lot of others) smell a rat. Now look around. How many rats do you see in porn capable of owning AVN.....I rest my case

[Klen]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

I have heard for a very long time that Manwwin is really the owner of AVN. I also heard recently that Webazilla is the real owner of AVN. I can't prove either one but I know for sure someone is going to GREAT lengths to hide the true ownership of AVN and that alone makes me (and a lot of others) smell a rat. Now look around. How many rats do you see in porn capable of owning AVN.....I rest my case

Funny how you mentioned how webazilla own avn,considering webazila rep is greek and avn director greek too
But on other hand,privatecash rep is also greek,so perhaps they are owner

[porno jew]

manwin owns more traffic networks and affiliate programs then they let on to. pretty obvious who they are. most people high five them all day on here as well.

[raymor]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

I have heard for a very long time that Manwwin is really the owner of AVN. I also heard recently that Webazilla is the real owner of AVN. I can't prove either one but I know for sure someone is going to GREAT lengths to hide the true ownership of AVN and that alone makes me (and a lot of others) smell a rat. Now look around. How many rats do you see in porn capable of owning AVN.....I rest my case

Has Manwin been doing ANY vertical integration, buying anything other than affiliate programs? I haven't seen them buying hosting companies, processors, software houses like Too Much or Mansion, etc. It wouldn't fit their pattern for them to go vertical and buy AVN. Not that vertical integration wouldn't be a logical step for them, but I haven't seen them doing it so far. So far, they seem to only buy affiliate programs, despite the obvious risk to their enterprise of being 100% invested in solely that model and that part of the industry.

[porno jew]

they buy tubes and traffic networks. although often keep it under another company. when a network changes hands, are converted to tubes then start promoting twistys and mofos you probably can guess who is behind it.

[MrDeiz]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

I have heard for a very long time that Manwwin is really the owner of AVN. I also heard recently that Webazilla is the real owner of AVN. I can't prove either one but I know for sure someone is going to GREAT lengths to hide the true ownership of AVN and that alone makes me (and a lot of others) smell a rat. Now look around. How many rats do you see in porn capable of owning AVN.....I rest my case

webazilla + avn connections can be truth
heard it from other ppl quite some time ago. also the european webmasters party operated by webazilla owner for many years has been merged with avn

then if we go some further tube8 was in tight with webazilla alex, later as you know it was bought by manwin. that's a small world we are living in

[Fat Panda]

for the right price everything is for sale regardless of what any of the gfy morons say

[grumpy]

stupid question
All is for sale!