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  • MrDeiz
    • May 2008
    • 9802

    #1

    Program owners - will you sell your shit if Manwin makes you an offer?

    Post here if you'd like to sell your shit to Manwin or post why you won't

    Let's save the time for each other
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  • Danmixz
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    • Sep 2010
    • 649

    #2
    Sure they will, for the right price...

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    • Fabien
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      • Jul 2003
      • 4789

      #3
      Everything is always on sale

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      • L-Pink
        working on my tan
        • Mar 2005
        • 39151

        #4
        Most here would sell their mothers.

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        • Klen
          • Aug 2006
          • 32234

          #5
          I did offered them and they reject it,seems they buying only tubes and paysites.Seems that was good since i tripled my income since then ;)I find it funny how they dont know to manage other types of sites.
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          • MaDalton
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            • Feb 2004
            • 39861

            #6
            i doubt the public GFY opinion matters to someone who gets an offer that allows him to retire
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            • MrDeiz
              • May 2008
              • 9802

              #7
              Originally posted by MaDalton
              i doubt the public GFY opinion matters to someone who gets an offer that allows him to retire
              that's not OP's point
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              • seeandsee
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                • Mar 2006
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                #8
                I will sell it for right price, why not...
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                • DarkJedi
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                  • Feb 2001
                  • 28301

                  #9
                  Originally posted by seeandsee
                  I will sell it for right price, why not...
                  sell what? your sig?

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                  • MaDalton
                    I am Amazing Content!
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 39861

                    #10
                    Originally posted by MrDeiz
                    that's not OP's point
                    so whats your point - starting a witch hunt after those that say they would?
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                    • alextokyo
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                      #11
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                      • DWB
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                        • Jul 2003
                        • 31779

                        #12
                        I think everyone would sell their company if the price is right regardless of who the buyer is. Even those who strongly disagree with their business model or practices would sell to them if it was an offer they could not refuse, especially in today's climate.

                        They are going to end up owning everything anyway so it's all pretty pointless at this point. They are like The Borg.

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                        • LeRoy
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                          • Jul 2007
                          • 13362

                          #13
                          Recently had a meeting with another manager here @ DTI. Been with the co. 10 years plus.

                          I said Manwin is taking over. He says "Who are they"

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                          • gleem
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                            • Jun 2001
                            • 5593

                            #14
                            I think any program would if offered the right multiple in this environment. Just a matter of which programs would sell for like 6 months of rebills, and which would hold out for 1 or 2 years rebills.




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                            • DoubleT
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                              • May 2008
                              • 39

                              #15
                              Originally posted by DWB
                              I think everyone would sell their company if the price is right regardless of who the buyer is. Even those who strongly disagree with their business model or practices would sell to them if it was an offer they could not refuse, especially in today's climate.

                              They are going to end up owning everything anyway so it's all pretty pointless at this point. They are like The Borg.
                              Ya, agree with this 100%.
                              I am more interested to see what things will look like 3 -4 yrs down the road.
                              Successfully managing all of these these programs, people, offices, content, billing, traffic etc and paying back these loans is huge logistical challenge. All the while they are constantly acquiring new stuff along the way. Time will tell, is this a smashing success or massive train wreck? Sounds like so far , so good - at least from the outside looking in.

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                              • TrashyContent
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                                • May 2008
                                • 2155

                                #16
                                Hmmm...

                                Well I run two programs www.GirlieCash.com and www.BittieBucks.com as well as out content business www.TrashyContent.com and I personally would never sell our company, but then I have two business partners so it wouldn't be my decision ultimitly...

                                But like someone said I guess everything as a price... I guess it just depends if a buyer ever met my valuation of what I believe our business is worth...

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                                • biskoppen
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                                  • Mar 2003
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                                  #17
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                                  • baddog
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Apr 2001
                                    • 107089

                                    #18
                                    As a broker of sites and programs, I am pretty sure if I told a client, "hey, I have someone that wants to buy, but it is Manwin," the response would be the same as if I told them it was you. They would sell.

                                    Never had someone give me the condition of who not to sell it to.

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                                    • shimmy2
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                                      • Mar 2009
                                      • 3271

                                      #19
                                      straight up, my answer is no. if i ran cookie cutter sites with non exclusive content then sure, but considering the years i put into projects, the risks taken, personal crap thats likely meaningless to other people etc nah i wouldnt sell out to anyone. call it a vain but no i couldnt give up the wheel
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                                      • HandballJim
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                                        • Sep 2008
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                                        #20
                                        whats their buyers contact info?
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                                        • baddog
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                                          • Apr 2001
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by HandballJim
                                          whats their buyers contact info?

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                                          • MrDeiz
                                            • May 2008
                                            • 9802

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by MaDalton
                                            so whats your point - starting a witch hunt after those that say they would?
                                            nope. just asking
                                            guys can even offer their stuff in this thread, who knows

                                            don't mind selling my stuff to Manwin as well
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                                            • suesheboy
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                                              • Nov 2002
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                                              #23
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                                              • Mutt
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                                                • Sep 2002
                                                • 34431

                                                #24
                                                you mean because of Manwin/Brazzer's tube sites? wouldn't care at all, i'd take the money.

                                                but nobody, including Manwin pays enough that i'd sell for 2 years profits - whether it was 2000 dollars in profits or 2 million. UNLESS i had some other business venture/investment I needed the capital for.
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                                                • Yngwie
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                                                  • May 2003
                                                  • 11118

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                  Most here would sell their mothers.
                                                  What's your offer for my mother? Lets make a deal.
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                                                  • NaughtyRob
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                                                    • Nov 2004
                                                    • 29602

                                                    #26
                                                    Come on dude, you know thats bullshit. If they offered you a few Million you would take it.

                                                    Originally posted by shimmy2
                                                    straight up, my answer is no. if i ran cookie cutter sites with non exclusive content then sure, but considering the years i put into projects, the risks taken, personal crap thats likely meaningless to other people etc nah i wouldnt sell out to anyone. call it a vain but no i couldnt give up the wheel
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                                                    • raymor
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                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                      • 3745

                                                      #27
                                                      That's an interesting question. I've turned down more than one opportunity because I don't do business with people lacing in ethics. (At least not knowingly.) On the other hand, if they decided to do some vertical integration, which would be the next logical step for them, it would be hard to turn down an offer that would let me semi-retire at 36 years old.

                                                      I suspect for the right price I'd have two conditions that would cleanly separate me from them. I walk away clean, rather than say becoming a Manwin employee for a year of transition, and they clearly brand it so webmasters know they are buying from Manwin, not from me. Then webmasters could decide if they wanted to buy Manwin Strongbox or Manwin Throttlebox
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                                                      • jimmycooper
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by alextokyo
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                                                        • 2intense
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                                                          • Dec 2009
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                          Most here would sell their mothers.
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                                                          • MaDalton
                                                            I am Amazing Content!
                                                            • Feb 2004
                                                            • 39861

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by shimmy2
                                                            straight up, my answer is no. if i ran cookie cutter sites with non exclusive content then sure, but considering the years i put into projects, the risks taken, personal crap thats likely meaningless to other people etc nah i wouldnt sell out to anyone. call it a vain but no i couldnt give up the wheel
                                                            thats easily said when you have something that you know thats not interesting for them anyways
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                                                            • Mr Pheer
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                              • 22082

                                                              #31
                                                              For a low 6-figure amount I'd sell them my complete portfolio of domains and my entire blackhat operation, and GFY would never see me again.

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                                                              • Radical Bucks
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                                                                • Dec 2011
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                                                                #32
                                                                If Manwin offered a solid $50million the yes.

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                                                                • GARY LEE
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                                                                  • Aug 2007
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Of course, anything is for sale. I would want to stay in the industry though. So I would only sell with conditions as I could take the money and start fresh in adult again, or I would have a job waiting with Manwin.
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                                                                  • sojproductions
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                                                                    • Aug 2006
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    I would sell for the right price, but 10 months sales figures wouldn't cut it, way too cheap for a solid business that nets good profit year after year... that the one flaw with adult sites, sale value is not worth selling.
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                                                                    • The Ghost
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                                                                      • Oct 2004
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by sojproductions
                                                                      I would sell for the right price, but 10 months sales figures wouldn't cut it, way too cheap for a solid business that nets good profit year after year... that the one flaw with adult sites, sale value is not worth selling.
                                                                      The 6mo-12mo is just tossed around as a basic figure. Can also be directed more towards freesites or sites without exclusive content. No one with a stable business would go for that unless they are flat out desperate. The dynamics of a real sale are much more complicated than a simple multiple. How the content has already been monetized, the organic traffic it receives, shelf life on the content, value of the domain(s), the hunger of the seller/buyer and many other tangible selling points. Personally I'd have to hear offers in YEARS to even look up. Then again we're still growing and 1 yr + ahead on produced exclusive content.
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                                                                      • cherrylula
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                                                                        • Jan 2002
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                                        Most here would sell their mothers.
                                                                        I think they already did, and spent the money too.

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                                                                        • cherrylula
                                                                          lol
                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                          • 15969

                                                                          #37
                                                                          do they own GFY yet? that's all I want to know.

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                                                                          • shimmy2
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                                                                            • Mar 2009
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                                                                            #38
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                                                                            • MrDeiz
                                                                              • May 2008
                                                                              • 9802

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by cherrylula
                                                                              do they own GFY yet? that's all I want to know.
                                                                              I do believe Panos/AVN is very close with them
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                                                                              • Chosen
                                                                                • Aug 2001
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                I wonder who wouldn't sell their shit

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                                                                                • Due
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                                                                                  • Mar 2001
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  By the looks of it isn't manwin buying up companiesbandb programs who own massive exclusive content libraries ?
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                                                                                  • mikesouth
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                                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                                    • 6334

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Even I would sell to Manwin for the right price Probably...would I sell to .XXX NO WAY for ANY PRICE
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                                                                                    • mikesouth
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                                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                                      • 6334

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      I have heard for a very long time that Manwwin is really the owner of AVN. I also heard recently that Webazilla is the real owner of AVN. I can't prove either one but I know for sure someone is going to GREAT lengths to hide the true ownership of AVN and that alone makes me (and a lot of others) smell a rat. Now look around. How many rats do you see in porn capable of owning AVN.....I rest my case
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                                                                                      • Klen
                                                                                        • Aug 2006
                                                                                        • 32234

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by mikesouth
                                                                                        I have heard for a very long time that Manwwin is really the owner of AVN. I also heard recently that Webazilla is the real owner of AVN. I can't prove either one but I know for sure someone is going to GREAT lengths to hide the true ownership of AVN and that alone makes me (and a lot of others) smell a rat. Now look around. How many rats do you see in porn capable of owning AVN.....I rest my case
                                                                                        Funny how you mentioned how webazilla own avn,considering webazila rep is greek and avn director greek too
                                                                                        But on other hand,privatecash rep is also greek,so perhaps they are owner

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                                                                                        • porno jew
                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                          • Nov 2006
                                                                                          • 10166

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          manwin owns more traffic networks and affiliate programs then they let on to. pretty obvious who they are. most people high five them all day on here as well.

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                                                                                          • raymor
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                                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                                            • 3745

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by mikesouth
                                                                                            I have heard for a very long time that Manwwin is really the owner of AVN. I also heard recently that Webazilla is the real owner of AVN. I can't prove either one but I know for sure someone is going to GREAT lengths to hide the true ownership of AVN and that alone makes me (and a lot of others) smell a rat. Now look around. How many rats do you see in porn capable of owning AVN.....I rest my case
                                                                                            Has Manwin been doing ANY vertical integration, buying anything other than affiliate programs? I haven't seen them buying hosting companies, processors, software houses like Too Much or Mansion, etc. It wouldn't fit their pattern for them to go vertical and buy AVN. Not that vertical integration wouldn't be a logical step for them, but I haven't seen them doing it so far. So far, they seem to only buy affiliate programs, despite the obvious risk to their enterprise of being 100% invested in solely that model and that part of the industry.
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                                                                                            • porno jew
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                                                                                              • Nov 2006
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              they buy tubes and traffic networks. although often keep it under another company. when a network changes hands, are converted to tubes then start promoting twistys and mofos you probably can guess who is behind it.

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                                                                                              • MrDeiz
                                                                                                • May 2008
                                                                                                • 9802

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by mikesouth
                                                                                                I have heard for a very long time that Manwwin is really the owner of AVN. I also heard recently that Webazilla is the real owner of AVN. I can't prove either one but I know for sure someone is going to GREAT lengths to hide the true ownership of AVN and that alone makes me (and a lot of others) smell a rat. Now look around. How many rats do you see in porn capable of owning AVN.....I rest my case
                                                                                                webazilla + avn connections can be truth
                                                                                                heard it from other ppl quite some time ago. also the european webmasters party operated by webazilla owner for many years has been merged with avn

                                                                                                then if we go some further tube8 was in tight with webazilla alex, later as you know it was bought by manwin. that's a small world we are living in
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                                                                                                • Fat Panda
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                                                                                                  • Aug 2006
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  for the right price everything is for sale regardless of what any of the gfy morons say

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                                                                                                  • grumpy
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                                                                                                    • Jan 2002
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    stupid question
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