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MrDeiz 03-24-2012 05:25 AM

Program owners - will you sell your shit if Manwin makes you an offer?
 
Post here if you'd like to sell your shit to Manwin or post why you won't :warning

Let's save the time for each other :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Danmixz 03-24-2012 05:27 AM

Sure they will, for the right price...

Fabien 03-24-2012 05:29 AM

Everything is always on sale

L-Pink 03-24-2012 05:33 AM

Most here would sell their mothers.

Klen 03-24-2012 05:34 AM

I did offered them and they reject it,seems they buying only tubes and paysites.Seems that was good since i tripled my income since then ;)I find it funny how they dont know to manage other types of sites.

MaDalton 03-24-2012 05:35 AM

i doubt the public GFY opinion matters to someone who gets an offer that allows him to retire

MrDeiz 03-24-2012 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 18842060)
i doubt the public GFY opinion matters to someone who gets an offer that allows him to retire

that's not OP's point :winkwink:

seeandsee 03-24-2012 05:41 AM

I will sell it for right price, why not...

DarkJedi 03-24-2012 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 18842064)
I will sell it for right price, why not...

sell what? your sig?

:1orglaugh

MaDalton 03-24-2012 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrDeiz (Post 18842061)
that's not OP's point :winkwink:

so whats your point - starting a witch hunt after those that say they would?

alextokyo 03-24-2012 06:52 AM

Cash rules everything around me, cream, get the money, dollah dollah bill y'all.



http://i40.tinypic.com/ojm7v7.jpg

DWB 03-24-2012 07:00 AM

I think everyone would sell their company if the price is right regardless of who the buyer is. Even those who strongly disagree with their business model or practices would sell to them if it was an offer they could not refuse, especially in today's climate.

They are going to end up owning everything anyway so it's all pretty pointless at this point. They are like The Borg.

LeRoy 03-24-2012 07:29 AM

Recently had a meeting with another manager here @ DTI. Been with the co. 10 years plus.

I said Manwin is taking over. He says "Who are they"

I had to chuckle :)

gleem 03-24-2012 07:39 AM

I think any program would if offered the right multiple in this environment. Just a matter of which programs would sell for like 6 months of rebills, and which would hold out for 1 or 2 years rebills.

DoubleT 03-24-2012 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18842124)
I think everyone would sell their company if the price is right regardless of who the buyer is. Even those who strongly disagree with their business model or practices would sell to them if it was an offer they could not refuse, especially in today's climate.

They are going to end up owning everything anyway so it's all pretty pointless at this point. They are like The Borg.

Ya, agree with this 100%.
I am more interested to see what things will look like 3 -4 yrs down the road.
Successfully managing all of these these programs, people, offices, content, billing, traffic etc and paying back these loans is huge logistical challenge. All the while they are constantly acquiring new stuff along the way. Time will tell, is this a smashing success or massive train wreck? Sounds like so far , so good - at least from the outside looking in.

TrashyContent 03-24-2012 08:00 AM

Hmmm...
 
Well I run two programs www.GirlieCash.com and www.BittieBucks.com as well as out content business www.TrashyContent.com and I personally would never sell our company, but then I have two business partners so it wouldn't be my decision ultimitly... :Oh crap

But like someone said I guess everything as a price... I guess it just depends if a buyer ever met my valuation of what I believe our business is worth...

biskoppen 03-24-2012 08:06 AM

$3M and they can have mine ;)

baddog 03-24-2012 08:40 AM

As a broker of sites and programs, I am pretty sure if I told a client, "hey, I have someone that wants to buy, but it is Manwin," the response would be the same as if I told them it was you. They would sell.

Never had someone give me the condition of who not to sell it to.

shimmy2 03-24-2012 09:04 AM

straight up, my answer is no. if i ran cookie cutter sites with non exclusive content then sure, but considering the years i put into projects, the risks taken, personal crap thats likely meaningless to other people etc nah i wouldnt sell out to anyone. call it a vain but no i couldnt give up the wheel

HandballJim 03-24-2012 09:39 AM

whats their buyers contact info? :winkwink:

baddog 03-24-2012 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HandballJim (Post 18842263)
whats their buyers contact info? :winkwink:

:thumbsup:1orglaugh

MrDeiz 03-24-2012 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 18842076)
so whats your point - starting a witch hunt after those that say they would?

nope. just asking
guys can even offer their stuff in this thread, who knows :winkwink:

don't mind selling my stuff to Manwin as well

suesheboy 03-24-2012 07:20 PM

Take all my adult for $10,000 and I will be on my way...

Mutt 03-24-2012 08:05 PM

you mean because of Manwin/Brazzer's tube sites? wouldn't care at all, i'd take the money.

but nobody, including Manwin pays enough that i'd sell for 2 years profits - whether it was 2000 dollars in profits or 2 million. UNLESS i had some other business venture/investment I needed the capital for.

Yngwie 03-24-2012 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18842055)
Most here would sell their mothers.

What's your offer for my mother? Lets make a deal. :1orglaugh

NaughtyRob 03-24-2012 11:16 PM

Come on dude, you know thats bullshit. If they offered you a few Million you would take it. :pimp

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmy2 (Post 18842222)
straight up, my answer is no. if i ran cookie cutter sites with non exclusive content then sure, but considering the years i put into projects, the risks taken, personal crap thats likely meaningless to other people etc nah i wouldnt sell out to anyone. call it a vain but no i couldnt give up the wheel


raymor 03-24-2012 11:28 PM

That's an interesting question. I've turned down more than one opportunity because I don't do business with people lacing in ethics. (At least not knowingly.) On the other hand, if they decided to do some vertical integration, which would be the next logical step for them, it would be hard to turn down an offer that would let me semi-retire at 36 years old.

I suspect for the right price I'd have two conditions that would cleanly separate me from them. I walk away clean, rather than say becoming a Manwin employee for a year of transition, and they clearly brand it so webmasters know they are buying from Manwin, not from me. Then webmasters could decide if they wanted to buy Manwin Strongbox or Manwin Throttlebox

jimmycooper 03-24-2012 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alextokyo (Post 18842114)
Cash rules everything around me, cream, get the money, dollah dollah bill y'all.



http://i40.tinypic.com/ojm7v7.jpg

Old school. Nice.


2intense 03-25-2012 12:13 AM

:pimp:thumbsup
Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18842055)
Most here would sell their mothers.


MaDalton 03-25-2012 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmy2 (Post 18842222)
straight up, my answer is no. if i ran cookie cutter sites with non exclusive content then sure, but considering the years i put into projects, the risks taken, personal crap thats likely meaningless to other people etc nah i wouldnt sell out to anyone. call it a vain but no i couldnt give up the wheel

thats easily said when you have something that you know thats not interesting for them anyways

Mr Pheer 03-25-2012 12:47 AM

For a low 6-figure amount I'd sell them my complete portfolio of domains and my entire blackhat operation, and GFY would never see me again.

Radical Bucks 03-25-2012 01:07 AM

If Manwin offered a solid $50million the yes.

GARY LEE 03-25-2012 03:34 AM

Of course, anything is for sale. I would want to stay in the industry though. So I would only sell with conditions as I could take the money and start fresh in adult again, or I would have a job waiting with Manwin.

sojproductions 03-25-2012 03:35 AM

I would sell for the right price, but 10 months sales figures wouldn't cut it, way too cheap for a solid business that nets good profit year after year... that the one flaw with adult sites, sale value is not worth selling.

The Ghost 03-25-2012 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by sojproductions (Post 18843428)
I would sell for the right price, but 10 months sales figures wouldn't cut it, way too cheap for a solid business that nets good profit year after year... that the one flaw with adult sites, sale value is not worth selling.

The 6mo-12mo is just tossed around as a basic figure. Can also be directed more towards freesites or sites without exclusive content. No one with a stable business would go for that unless they are flat out desperate. The dynamics of a real sale are much more complicated than a simple multiple. How the content has already been monetized, the organic traffic it receives, shelf life on the content, value of the domain(s), the hunger of the seller/buyer and many other tangible selling points. Personally I'd have to hear offers in YEARS to even look up. Then again we're still growing and 1 yr + ahead on produced exclusive content.

cherrylula 03-25-2012 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18842055)
Most here would sell their mothers.

I think they already did, and spent the money too.

cherrylula 03-25-2012 05:35 AM

do they own GFY yet? that's all I want to know.

shimmy2 03-25-2012 06:41 AM

ask all the artists who resold their residual rights to BMG and columbia house catalogs in the "12 cds for 1 cent" era

MrDeiz 03-25-2012 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 18843479)
do they own GFY yet? that's all I want to know.

I do believe Panos/AVN is very close with them

Chosen 03-25-2012 08:12 AM

I wonder who wouldn't sell their shit :1orglaugh

Due 03-25-2012 09:40 AM

By the looks of it isn't manwin buying up companiesbandb programs who own massive exclusive content libraries ?

mikesouth 03-25-2012 10:21 AM

Even I would sell to Manwin for the right price Probably...would I sell to .XXX NO WAY for ANY PRICE

mikesouth 03-25-2012 10:25 AM

I have heard for a very long time that Manwwin is really the owner of AVN. I also heard recently that Webazilla is the real owner of AVN. I can't prove either one but I know for sure someone is going to GREAT lengths to hide the true ownership of AVN and that alone makes me (and a lot of others) smell a rat. Now look around. How many rats do you see in porn capable of owning AVN.....I rest my case

Klen 03-25-2012 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 18843774)
I have heard for a very long time that Manwwin is really the owner of AVN. I also heard recently that Webazilla is the real owner of AVN. I can't prove either one but I know for sure someone is going to GREAT lengths to hide the true ownership of AVN and that alone makes me (and a lot of others) smell a rat. Now look around. How many rats do you see in porn capable of owning AVN.....I rest my case

Funny how you mentioned how webazilla own avn,considering webazila rep is greek and avn director greek too :upsidedow
But on other hand,privatecash rep is also greek,so perhaps they are owner :1orglaugh

porno jew 03-25-2012 10:31 AM

manwin owns more traffic networks and affiliate programs then they let on to. pretty obvious who they are. most people high five them all day on here as well.

raymor 03-25-2012 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 18843774)
I have heard for a very long time that Manwwin is really the owner of AVN. I also heard recently that Webazilla is the real owner of AVN. I can't prove either one but I know for sure someone is going to GREAT lengths to hide the true ownership of AVN and that alone makes me (and a lot of others) smell a rat. Now look around. How many rats do you see in porn capable of owning AVN.....I rest my case

Has Manwin been doing ANY vertical integration, buying anything other than affiliate programs? I haven't seen them buying hosting companies, processors, software houses like Too Much or Mansion, etc. It wouldn't fit their pattern for them to go vertical and buy AVN. Not that vertical integration wouldn't be a logical step for them, but I haven't seen them doing it so far. So far, they seem to only buy affiliate programs, despite the obvious risk to their enterprise of being 100% invested in solely that model and that part of the industry.

porno jew 03-25-2012 10:54 AM

they buy tubes and traffic networks. although often keep it under another company. when a network changes hands, are converted to tubes then start promoting twistys and mofos you probably can guess who is behind it.

MrDeiz 03-25-2012 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 18843774)
I have heard for a very long time that Manwwin is really the owner of AVN. I also heard recently that Webazilla is the real owner of AVN. I can't prove either one but I know for sure someone is going to GREAT lengths to hide the true ownership of AVN and that alone makes me (and a lot of others) smell a rat. Now look around. How many rats do you see in porn capable of owning AVN.....I rest my case

webazilla + avn connections can be truth :2 cents:
heard it from other ppl quite some time ago. also the european webmasters party operated by webazilla owner for many years has been merged with avn

then if we go some further tube8 was in tight with webazilla alex, later as you know it was bought by manwin. that's a small world we are living in :2 cents:

Fat Panda 03-25-2012 10:59 AM

for the right price everything is for sale regardless of what any of the gfy morons say

grumpy 03-25-2012 11:41 AM

stupid question
All is for sale!


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