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DamianJ 02-27-2012 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18785482)
If there were less shoe stores, less people would have shoes.

I think it would be hard to argue against that.

Glad you've seen sense.

DamianJ 02-27-2012 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18785486)
We also have the best teeth. Sorry England. :Oh crap

http://www.guardian.co.uk/notesandqu...-22429,00.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7633254.stm

Shotsie 02-27-2012 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 18785462)
I can't count the number of times i've had to chase off an intruder with a butter knife.

You should be so lucky. In Britain you need three forms of I.D., and then there's a three day waiting period to purchase butter knives.

DWB 02-27-2012 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 18785484)
haha

This is one thing I have never understood about the US.

Marijuana is illegal yet guns are seen as an essential household item.

BTW - I love visiting the US, no problem with the people at all from my experience, simply do not get the love for guns.

If you haven't noticed, Americans love everything but soccer, I mean football. Look at how they react to a new iPhone, they sleep out for days. They trample people to save $4 on an iron or get the latest doll for their kid. Many things are uniquely American.

helterskelter808 02-27-2012 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18785425)
A better question to look at would be why would someone want to [...] kill people?

What else would you do with a gun? That's what they were invented for.

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Originally Posted by DJ The Kid (Post 18785443)
I'd like to see if someone tries to come in and rob your home with a gun, and all you have is a knife or baseball bat. Since guns are illegal and you can't own one, but the criminal (who will get a hold of anyway no matter what) does.

Why (insane) Americans have guns: shit scared and paranoid about the world outside their windows.

Fletch XXX 02-27-2012 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ The Kid (Post 18785453)
Yes, everyone in the US is a redneck hick living in the hills.

somehow I doubt our detractors have much experience here... They think we carry machine guns to the park lol cant even bring a beer to the park let alone guns

Cant blame them for their ignorance. They think America is like in their movies. They dont reallyknow anyone here.. it would be the equivaant of me posting on some Chinese forum about China.... I dont know shit about China.. which you wont see me do. Ever notice how Americans dont gi e a shit about any other country yet everyone wants tell us how t run ours lol these people still worship kings dude

L-Pink 02-27-2012 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18785460)
This is true. I'm not sure why we deny this, it's something we should be proud of.

Rednecks for life.

I'm getting ready to watch the Daytona 500 while I drink Wild Turkey and barbecue a steak. Might even clean a gun or two while watching.

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DWB 02-27-2012 04:58 PM

:1orglaugh

Brujah 02-27-2012 04:58 PM

Are there any stats on crime related to poverty vs guns? I think poverty is probably a factor more than gun ownership. Countries with a bigger social umbrella likely have less violent crime regardless of gun stats.

Sly 02-27-2012 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18785498)
somehow I doubt our detractors have much experience here... They think we carry machine guns to the park lol cant even bring a beer to the park let alone guns

Cant blame them for their ignorance. They think America is like in their movies. They dont reallyknow anyone here.. it would be the equivaant of me posting on some Chinese forum about China.... I dont know shit about China.. which you wont see me do. Ever notice how Americans dont gi e a shit about any other country yet everyone wants tell us how t run ours lol these people still worship kings dude

I was talking to an Australian once that visited Los Angeles. He was amazed that he didn't see anyone wearing a cowboy hat.

I live in Texas and I barely ever see cowboy hats!

georgeyw 02-27-2012 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18785479)
Shit happens. I hope it never happens to you, cause you're fucked if it does.

I'd say I have a better chance of winning lotto 10 times in a row.

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18785479)
Why does it matter what country to compare it against? The argument is more guns equals more gun related deaths. Which isn't the case in Mexico.

Simple answer, poverty. Poverty and violence like to hold hands and skip down the street.

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18785479)
Here is an interesting read on the worlds worst serial killers. None of them used firearms.

Read: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/495477.stm

Non-Americans who know everything about US gun culture, care to explain how this is possible?

Interesting read, not sure how that relates to a kid getting his hands on a gun and killing another kid in a school?

I have never purported to know everything about US gun culture. It is however blatantly obvious that there is a problem and surprisingly guns don't seem to be the problem if you ask any of you guys.

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18785480)
They also win on FATTEST too!

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/he...health-obesity

GO USA!

First place again!

Fletch XXX 02-27-2012 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 18785484)
haha

This is one thing I have never understood about the US.

Marijuana is illegal yet guns are seen as an essential household item.

BTW - I love visiting the US, no problem with the people at all from my experience, simply do not get the love for guns.

Weed is not illegap everywhere in the us.

In fact as I posted earlier California has strict gun regs but has decriminalized pot.

Peoe think America is one law... Each state is diff you can walk around smiking an ounce in calu cops wont touch you

DWB 02-27-2012 05:02 PM

One can only assume this bad ass is American.

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Fletch XXX 02-27-2012 05:03 PM

Sry postin from mobile lol bad touch typer

georgeyw 02-27-2012 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Shotsie (Post 18785494)
You should be so lucky. In Britain you need three forms of I.D., and then there's a three day waiting period to purchase butter knives.

Black market, 24hour waiting period and you can get as many as you want. :thumbsup

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18785495)
If you haven't noticed, Americans love everything but soccer, I mean football. Look at how they react to a new iPhone, they sleep out for days. They trample people to save $4 on an iron or get the latest doll for their kid. Many things are uniquely American.

Soccer here in Australia too :thumbsup

Everything else you mentioned is what happens here sleep out for days for a phone / new game / movie etc...

However gun ownership is definitely not the same. Why would anyone need a machine gun for example?

porno jew 02-27-2012 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 18785526)

However gun ownership is definitely not the same. Why would anyone need a machine gun for example?

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it?s natural manure. - Thomas Jefferson

georgeyw 02-27-2012 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18785515)
Weed is not illegap everywhere in the us.

In fact as I posted earlier California has strict gun regs but has decriminalized pot.

Peoe think America is one law... Each state is diff you can walk around smiking an ounce in calu cops wont touch you

Interesting, so what are the gun ownership stats versus gun homicides for California?

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18785519)
Sry postin from mobile lol bad touch typer

thought as much :thumbsup

DWB 02-27-2012 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 18785512)
I'd say I have a better chance of winning lotto 10 times in a row.

I hope so.


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Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 18785512)
Simple answer, poverty. Poverty and violence like to hold hands and skip down the street.

The USA has lots of poverty. I'd wager most of the violent crimes are committed those living in those inner city areas.

I live in a poverty stricken country with access to an insane amount of firearms. We don't have a lot of problems.

georgeyw 02-27-2012 05:10 PM

Intermission


DWB 02-27-2012 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 18785533)
Interesting, so what are the gun ownership stats versus gun homicides for California?

Not going to be fair on those numbers. California is full of minorities living in poverty and neighbors Mexico. You're probably going to have pretty high rates because of this.

helterskelter808 02-27-2012 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18785517)

Russell Brand has let himself go.

Brujah 02-27-2012 05:14 PM

Thailand seems pretty bad.

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Taken from the gun violence data out of dozens of countries surveyed in the Seventh United Nations Survey on Crime Trends and the Operations of Criminal Justice Systems (1998 – 2000), Thailand happened to be the country with the highest percentage of its homicides (reported) that were committed with a firearm. Simply dead said, the weapon murder choice for Thailand is the gun, more so than other countries.

Fletch XXX 02-27-2012 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18785510)
I was talking to an Australian once that visited Los Angeles. He was amazed that he didn't see anyone wearing a cowboy hat.

I live in Texas and I barely ever see cowboy hats!

good one and sooo true. texas gets more stereotypes and the whole "dumb cowboy" thing often, but I tell myself this,... texas is bigger than France, we got states bigger than countries, we have a WIDE range of diversity that smaller countries simply do not.

yes, *gasp* people in texas dont all wear cowboy hats! and say YEEHAW!!!

who is more dumb, the redneck american who actually pays license and owns a gun, or the idiot boasting stereotypes on a message forum from some other country?

towns like austin are like new orleans almost aint no redneck country lol i didnt see a cowboy hat there LOL

georgeyw 02-27-2012 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18785534)
The USA has lots of poverty. I'd wager most of the violent crimes are committed those living in those inner city areas.

I live in a poverty stricken country with access to an insane amount of firearms. We don't have a lot of problems.

For me it is a bit like comparing deaths in smokers teens versus the elderly.

They are both human and both smoke.

Does not really work does it, stats are what you make of them and we obviously disagree.

With re to Thailand, their culture is not of violence is it?

georgeyw 02-27-2012 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18785510)
I was talking to an Australian once that visited Los Angeles. He was amazed that he didn't see anyone wearing a cowboy hat.

I live in Texas and I barely ever see cowboy hats!

Naturally there are idiots in every country.

How many people do you think asked me if I had pet kangaroos and koalas when I was in the states last year? Add to that the number of people who also wanted to know if we had actual real roads / running water etc...


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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18785547)
Originally yes, but not now as there are many guns that are designed for target shooting. The irony is you being an English concord colony and preaching to Americans about gun ownership? At the time England was a self proclaimed civilized society when they tried to colonize us. Also the primary reason the second amendment was drafted.

As you're still obvious and don't get it.


I'm still obvious? WTF are you talking about?

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18785563)
good one and sooo true. texas gets more stereotypes and the whole "dumb cowboy" thing often, but I tell myself this,... texas is bigger than France, we got states bigger than countries, we have a WIDE range of diversity that smaller countries simply do not.

yes, *gasp* people in texas dont all wear cowboy hats! and say YEEHAW!!!

who is more dumb, the redneck american who actually pays license and owns a gun, or the idiot boasting stereotypes on a message forum from some other country?

towns like austin are like new orleans almost aint no redneck country lol i didnt see a cowboy hat there LOL

I have to admit, arriving in Texas was an interesting experience. It is very different to the rest of the US.

We have states and even property owners that have more land than small Euro countries so what?

DEA 02-27-2012 05:39 PM


D Ghost 02-27-2012 05:49 PM

It's ironic with all the non-American's calling us rednecks, when they don't know us, or have any clue. And the definition of a "redneck" is an ignorant bigot.

georgeyw 02-27-2012 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18785599)
sorry, typo "oblivious". Also, your own crime stats in OZ proved that after you banned guns your own violent crime spiked. The point is once a country has guns, you'll never get them all in a ban. There are 300 million guns in America as this will insure the criminals will never turn their guns in and a mood point about this whole subject.

I'd love to see those stats.

Post a link.

Fletch XXX 02-27-2012 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ The Kid (Post 18785613)
It's ironic with all the non-American's calling us rednecks, when they don't know us, or have any clue. And the definition of a "redneck" is an ignorant bigot.

I honestly do not think they even know the definition of "redneck." Seriously, its like you or me going on a Russian board, posting in Russian and calling them some odd stereotypical Russian slang derogatory term. Or here, spin it easier, me going on Scandinavian forum and trying speak their language and rag on Stockholm! lol

LAME and ignorant. They are the very type of person they aim to put down.

D Ghost 02-27-2012 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18785621)
I honestly do not think they even know the definition of "redneck." Seriously, its like you or me going on a Russian board, posting in Russian and calling them some odd stereotypical Russian slang derogatory term. Or here, spin it easier, me going on Scandinavian forum and trying speak their language and rag on Stockholm! lol

LAME and ignorant. They are the very type of person they aim to put down.

:thumbsup

porno jew 02-27-2012 06:00 PM

The term characterized farmers having a red neck caused by sunburn from hours working in the fields. A citation from 1893 provides a definition as "poorer inhabitants of the rural districts...men who work in the field, as a matter of course, generally have their skin stained red and burnt by the sun, and especially is this true of the back of their necks"

Shotsie 02-27-2012 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18785621)
I honestly do not think they even know the definition of "redneck." Seriously, its like you or me going on a Russian board, posting in Russian and calling them some odd stereotypical Russian slang derogatory term.

The Russian equivalent of redneck would be "bydlo"

Fletch XXX 02-27-2012 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Shotsie (Post 18785632)
The Russian equivalent of redneck would be "bydlo"

then i must surely use this term against a nation of people I do not know!!!

"bydlo mother fuckers!"

Fletch XXX 02-27-2012 06:07 PM

for the record though, i see no nations, I see no lines and boundaries.

My brothers stretch from Australia to Amsterdam, from Finland to Canada.

Ive made money with so many people from various nations, I am proud to have had the opportunity to chat and interact with people from all over the world. You wont see me bashing Holland, or ragging on canada. My only regret is I cannot learn all the languages as many learn mine and talk to me in mine. From Czech to London.

money dont care which nation it come from.

georgeyw 02-27-2012 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18785633)
There are many as you can start there as it references many Australian agencies.

http://www.gunsandcrime.org/auresult.html

Interesting the way in which you have interpreted those stats.

D Ghost 02-27-2012 06:10 PM

<sarcasm> Well all the anti-gun people are so smart, and they know the solution is so simple to just ban guns completely. It must not be a more complex issue than that. </sarcasm>

Heh.

lo0ni 02-27-2012 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18785264)
So buying a bazooka or any other weapon should be as easy as buying a gun right? Am i right?

In response to Dirty's question regarding the legality of owning "bazookas"; owning them is illegal.

An rpg would fall under the class of being "destructive devices" which are illegal to own by civilians in most, but not all, states.

Of course if you wanted to own one, you could set up a trust in a state that allows civilians to own them, and keep your destructive device or machine gun there legally.

California is a state which allows civilians and law enforcement to legally own destructive devices, but their ownership is limited solely to people with the proper permit.

California has never issued, to a civilian, a permit for a destructive device.

helterskelter808 02-27-2012 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ The Kid (Post 18785613)
It's ironic with all the non-American's calling us rednecks, when they don't know us, or have any clue. And the definition of a "redneck" is an ignorant bigot.

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18785621)
I honestly do not think they even know the definition of "redneck."

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18785625)
True, because if they knew what the term meant they'd be surprised. Redneck was a term used when coalminers worked in horrid conditions. The coalminers went on strike as the owners called in security companies to putdown the uprising. The striking coalminers wore red bandanas around there necks so they wouldn't shoot each other as the term "redneck" was coined.

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18785629)
The term characterized farmers having a red neck caused by sunburn from hours working in the fields. A citation from 1893 provides a definition as "poorer inhabitants of the rural districts...men who work in the field, as a matter of course, generally have their skin stained red and burnt by the sun, and especially is this true of the back of their necks"

Meanwhile, in the real world: Redneck

StickyGreen 02-27-2012 07:18 PM

Are there people in here actually trying to blame guns for violence? lol

Fletch XXX 02-27-2012 07:27 PM

Sry postin from mobile lol bad touch typer

Fletch XXX 02-27-2012 07:30 PM

wtf? that post above is from earlier on my mobile phone, it just show up?? LOL

GFED 02-27-2012 08:04 PM

Anyone that turns this into a debate about guns is ignoring the cause of the incident. If you've never been the kid that was repeatedly jumped by groups of other kids or punched in the head for no reason while walking to class you wouldn't understand. Prejudice and racism grows strong within our school system.

I can honestly say I've never hit anyone in my life. I've never picked on anyone. I learned to accept the fact that 99% of people = shit.

I had easy access to guns and knifes but never brought one to school. Instead I started taking night classes along with day school to get the hell out of there. I couldn't take it any more.

Banning guns is not a solution. Eliminate the hate.

xholly 02-27-2012 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18785547)
Originally yes, but not now as there are many guns that are designed for target shooting. The irony is you being an English concord colony and preaching to Americans about gun ownership? At the time England was a self proclaimed civilized society when they tried to colonize us. Also the primary reason the second amendment was drafted.

As you're still obvious and don't get it.

i don't see the irony at all

Homer Simpson was right when he said you still need guns to keep the King of England outa your face?

StickyGreen 02-27-2012 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by xholly (Post 18785835)
i don't see the irony at all

Homer Simpson was right when he said you still need guns to keep the King of England outa your face?

We have guns in order to keep TYRANNY out of our faces (at least to give us some sort of fighting chance)... whether it comes from our own government or another country's...

Defenseless public = Slaves.

theking 02-27-2012 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18785476)
How about looking at if there were less guns, less people would be shot?

That is probably true...but it is my opinion that is not necessarily a good thing. An accidental shooting is not a good thing...but some shootings are a good thing...because some people deserve to be shot...and I suspect that from the shooters perspective there are more people shot that deserve to be shot than don't deserve to be shot.

Shotsie 02-27-2012 08:47 PM

http://i.imgur.com/tFihI.jpg

xholly 02-27-2012 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 18785847)
We have guns in order to keep TYRANNY out of our faces (at least to give us some sort of fighting chance)... whether it comes from our own government or another country's...

Defenseless public = Slaves.

yeah I can get that and do understand it and if I lived in America I would buy myself a gun or 2 but im very glad I don't live in such a gun culture.

It's not just a tyranical government to be worried about when the entire population is armed and many of them crazy or angry. Its your next door neighbour who is more likely to shoot you than a government hit squad.

Defenseless public = Slaves.. umm perhaps but I don't feel like a slave

Armed public = people shoting each other all the time when they are pissed off

xholly 02-27-2012 09:17 PM

Just think a guy like Johnnyclips can go out and probly buy an AR15 or something, even if you are pro gun doesn't that scare the crap out of you?

L-Pink 02-27-2012 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by xholly (Post 18785895)
Just think a guy like Johnnyclips can go out and probly buy an AR15 or something, even if you are pro gun doesn't that scare the crap out of you?

Not me, I know I'm a better shot :1orglaugh

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Sly 02-27-2012 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by xholly (Post 18785895)
Just think a guy like Johnnyclips can go out and probly buy an AR15 or something, even if you are pro gun doesn't that scare the crap out of you?

Not really.

Can != do.


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