Whats a fair price to rewrite 10,000 video titles + descriptions? - Page 3 - GoFuckYourself.com

harvey · 02-29-2012, 09:00 PM

I has 100 test descrictions!

12clicks · 02-29-2012, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless

Liar now or liar then Ronald? No answer eh? Why don't you think up a lie about it and go with that...

My clients are all excellent references. They don't post in your silly pissing contests on GFY.
If they did, you'd just lie about them or to them as well.
That's the problem with you being a liar. What you say has no value.

Liar?
Son, I fired you because when it comes to text, you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground. When it comes to SEO, you know even less. That's why I fired you.
If I had known you put a false testimonial on your site, I'd have had it removed by your host.

So to answer your question, you were a liar then and you're a liar now.

But imaginary business is based on lies.
So go on, little girl, trot out the next lie to gain another penny a word job.
Christ, how pathetic.

Relentless · 02-29-2012, 09:29 PM

Earlier in this thread and in other threads you have stated you did supply a testimonial. You also said cyndalie fired me? Now it's you again and you didnt supply one? haha Are you that poor a liar that you can't even keep your false story straight for the length of a whole thread. What happened to you Ronald? If you don't like me that's fine. If you prefer not to work with me, that's very much mutual.

That being said, your lies are silly and very transparent. You aren't fooling anyone.

VenusBlogger · 03-01-2012, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless

Almost correct English is not correct English, and you can be sure Google knows the difference between the two.

If you are suggesting that Google will send more traffic to a perfect native written article, and less traffic to a very well written article but with a few grammar errors, you are completely wrong... It doesn't work that way.

12clicks · 03-01-2012, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless

Earlier in this thread and in other threads you have stated you did supply a testimonial. You also said cyndalie fired me? Now it's you again and you didnt supply one? haha Are you that poor a liar that you can't even keep your false story straight for the length of a whole thread. What happened to you Ronald? If you don't like me that's fine. If you prefer not to work with me, that's very much mutual.

That being said, your lies are silly and very transparent. You aren't fooling anyone.

I told Cyndalie to fire you and pay you.
I also didn't supply you with that false testimonial. I gave you boilerplate. who knows where you invented what you actually put up.
anyway, you wasted our time when you offered to work for us, were fired, and we never used you again. considering we have many many more websites than we started with, the fact that we never used you again even though you claim we got along just fine until years later speaks volumes about your work.

your spin may vary.

Relentless · 03-01-2012, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by VenusBlogger

If you are suggesting that Google will send more traffic to a perfect native written article, and less traffic to a very well written article but with a few grammar errors, you are completely wrong... It doesn't work that way.

I am suggesting a site with ten thousand poorly written texts will not do as well as the exact same site would do with ten thousand well-written texts. Content spinners and morphing text are notorious for agreement errors, incorrect pluralization and other basic grammar failures. So are bad writers. Poorly written text also results in lower time on site, higher bounce rates and unhelpful keyword density. On a site with 10,000 text items published, as the original poster requested, the aggregate of errors can be significant. More likely, the 500 dollar writer will just run text through a content spinner and repost it, claiming all the errors are original poorly written text rather than the even more unhelpful duplicate content they actually represent.

On a tube targeting free porn surfers you don't need a Pulitzer prize winning author, but there is still a big difference between a competent writer and an incompetent one. On a project where you are actually trying to sell a product or service, spelling or grammar errors can have a devastating impact on sales ratios. People distrust sites and companies that 'can't even proofread their own website' and literate people are immediately distracted by text errors which interrupt any intended sales pitch.

Relentless · 03-01-2012, 06:47 AM

Keep lying Ronald. There is no point in continuing to discuss things with you.
Any time you are cornered by reason, you lie in a pathetic attempt to deflect or reinvent the situation.
That makes talking with you a complete wast of time.
We both know the truth, and so do my clients.

12clicks · 03-01-2012, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless

Keep lying Ronald. There is no point in continuing to discuss things with you.
Any time you are cornered by reason, you lie in a pathetic attempt to deflect or reinvent the situation.
That makes talking with you a complete wast of time.
We both know the truth, and so do my clients.

you were fired. your work was less than worthless since we had to re-do it all. calling me a liar won't change that.

sucks when reality interferes with your internet fairytale, eh?

Relentless · 03-01-2012, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

Lying Again...

Strange that so many successful companies would hire and rehire me over and over again to work on their sites, and that the '12x empire of high quality paysites'

is the only one that claims any problem ever existed. It really isn't hard to see through your lies Ronald. The only thing worse than a liar, is a bad liar. Congrats on showing yourself to be one.

Cyndalie · 03-01-2012, 07:35 AM

I rarely post and don't get involved with drama, but I remember it was ModF who actually fired him paying him about 1/3 of way through and not using him again. I was stuck having to get it redone eventually. We DO still laugh about what he thought was good text when the subject comes up in the office.

12clicks · 03-01-2012, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless

Strange that so many successful companies would hire and rehire me over and over again to work on their sites,

well I guess we could take you at your word on that..............

modF · 03-01-2012, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyndalie

I rarely post and don't get involved with drama, but I remember it was ModF who actually fired him paying him about 1/3 of way through and not using him again. I was stuck having to get it redone eventually. We DO still laugh about what he thought was good text when the subject comes up in the office.

I don't remember if that was me or someone else who fired him, it was about 100 internet years ago after all. I'd have to reboot into another OS to check icq history back that far, and I don't care enough to do so. However, I do recall someone firing, paying the bill and getting all new sites done.

Relentless · 03-01-2012, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyndalie

This Space For Rent

Thanks for your paid commentary Cyn. I hope your employment remains in good standing. The work I was asked to do was done completely. Ronald thanked me at the time and sent payment in full. He then went on to supply a testimonial about the quality of my work as previously posted in this thread.

What I find even more strange is the fact that you referred other companies to me for text work. In fact, when I began writing for Fubar, it was based largely on your recommendation, and I recall you being a reference for my work a number of times years ago. I am still very thankful for your willingness to tell others to hire me. At the start of my career your advice and assistance was very helpful, and when I work with new webmasters or provide free advice to them it is often because people like you went out of their way to help me at a time when I was not in a position to reciprocate. I will always appreciate you for that.

Relentless · 03-01-2012, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by modF

I don't remember if that was me or someone else who fired him, it was about 100 internet years ago after all. I'd have to reboot into another OS to check icq history back that far, and I don't care enough to do so. However, I do recall someone firing, paying the bill and getting all new sites done.

You aren't even on my ICQ list... so I doubt we have ever actually spoken in the past. It was in fact 100 internet years ago and it was a tiny job. Thanks for checking in though, it's nice to see all of Ronald's employees posting their agreement with their boss.

Relentless · 03-01-2012, 08:03 AM

Cyndalie,

What exactly did you mean in this thread on GFY:
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=8758...ght=enginefood

The thread was titled "Need solid text writer!!" which seems pretty easy to understand. You were so enthusiastic you actually were the first person to reply

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Originally Posted by Cyndalie

EngineFood.com
Relentless is one of the best!

I hope your employment remains stable. I know Ronald is a liar and whatever he promises you should always be taken with a grain of salt...

Relentless · 03-01-2012, 08:11 AM

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=7402...ght=Relentless

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Originally Posted by Cyndalie

Relentless is the best I know at it. and yes Text really can help increase conversions by making average content appear to have flavor and add a unique personality to the stie.

B.Barnato · 03-01-2012, 08:17 AM

Wow

This Space For Rent indeed.

Relentless · 03-01-2012, 08:30 AM

It's amazing how far off track this thread went. Just to reiterate, if you are paying $500 for 10,000 scenes of text, you likely are not getting content of any real value.

12clicks · 03-01-2012, 08:42 AM

hahahaha, keep digging, dipshit.

I'm sure you thought it was cute to try pissing up at your betters. Sadly for you, I have a long term memory and long term employees who were there.

you were a joke then and a lying joke now.

Relentless · 03-01-2012, 08:47 AM

Ronald... do you really think people do not notice your name-calling fails to address the facts posted in this thread?

Here are a couple more links for you to look up:
http://hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah...ght=Relentless
Thread Title: Any Trusted Writers Here?
Cyndalie Says: "Relentless is the best I know."

http://hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah...ght=enginefood
From 09-28-2009, years after I had completed your work and gotten a testimonial as to its quality, Cyndalie was still recommending EngineFood

I know you were banned from that board and that you subsequently required Cyndalie and your other employees stop posting there. I find it ironic that you are now reversing course and requiring your employees to actively post here. It doesn't make your lies any more believable. It just makes it easier for me to disprove them.

Relentless · 03-01-2012, 08:49 AM

The MP board urls come up 'haha' on GFY. If anyone wants the actual urls feel free to contact me via ICQ or Email. If the search function on JBM worked I am confident I would easily find plenty more as well.

12clicks · 03-01-2012, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless

Ronald... do you really think people do not notice your name-calling fails to address the facts posted in this thread?

Here are a couple more links for you to look up:
http://hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah...ght=Relentless
Thread Title: Any Trusted Writers Here?
Cyndalie Says: "Relentless is the best I know."

http://hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah...ght=enginefood
From 09-28-2009, years after I had completed your work and gotten a testimonial as to its quality, Cyndalie was still recommending EngineFood

I know you were banned from that board and that you subsequently required Cyndalie and your other employees stop posting there. I find it ironic that you are now reversing course and requiring your employees to actively post here. It doesn't make your lies any more believable. It just makes it easier for me to disprove them.

hahahaha, is that the story you're going to run with, liar?

cyn and modf apparently didn't like the fact that I was being called a liar.
especially when they know the truth.
keep posting links and photochops. that will divert everyone's attention away from the fact that you're a liar who does shitty work.

12clicks · 03-01-2012, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless

Ronald... do you really think people do not notice your name-calling fails to address the facts posted in this thread?

the only facts that have been posted have come from me, cyn, and modf.
We all remember the idiot work you performed for us, remember having you stop before you were done, and then paying to be rid of you.

oh, and icqing cyn to convince her she's got it all wrong will work about as well as your photochops.

Relentless · 03-01-2012, 09:02 AM

My work was apparently good enough for Cyndalie to actively recommend me on a number of industry boards and to refer clients to me years after my work for you was completed (as proven by the urls posted). It was also good enough for you to supply a testimonial which is something you yourself noted as something you don't usually do for people (as proven by the wayback url and screenshot posted). More importantly, it is good enough to keep a long list of top companies happy for years (as proven by references available any time for prospective clients). You lying about any of that doesn't change the facts. You paying people to lie about it doesn't change their previously recorded statements. I still won't refer clients to you for your xsell business Ronald. Lying about me won't change that either.

12clicks · 03-01-2012, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless

My work was apparently good enough for Cyndalie to actively recommend me on a number of industry boards and to refer clients to me years after my work for you was completed (as proven by the urls posted). It was also good enough for you to supply a testimonial which is something you yourself noted as something you don't usually do for people (as proven by the wayback url and screenshot posted). More importantly, it is good enough to keep a long list of top companies happy for years (as proven by references available any time for prospective clients). You lying about any of that doesn't change the facts. You paying people to lie about it doesn't change their previously recorded statements. I still won't refer clients to you for your xsell business Ronald. Lying about me won't change that either.

hahaha, this clown just can't stop digging.

here, here's a photochop to distract people from seeing you lie.

Relentless · 03-01-2012, 09:21 AM

You sure do love that four year old photo of me after a few drinks at JBM Hooters in Phoenix. We already discussed the fact that a person doesn't need to be a male model to succeed in this business (or pretty much any other besides male modeling). People hire me for my marketing abilities and talent for writing massive amounts of high quality text. I provide it as well or better than anyone else. Your own in-house SEO director posted her agreement with that several times after I stopped working for Mojo's company.

Distract, lie, pay others to lie, it doesn't change the truth. I have worked very hard over the years to build a strong reputation for quality work and professionalism with a large network of companies and individual webmasters. I did so for two reasons. One, it was the right thing to do... and two, it works very well for defending my brands when a loud-mouth liar like you decides to try and smear my company. You are a joke.

12clicks · 03-01-2012, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless

You sure do love that four year old photo of me after a few drinks at JBM Hooters in Phoenix. We already discussed the fact that a person doesn't need to be a male model to succeed in this business (or pretty much any other besides male modeling). People hire me for my marketing abilities and talent for writing massive amounts of high quality text. I provide it as well or better than anyone else. Your own in-house SEO director posted her agreement with that several times after I stopped working for Mojo's company.

Distract, lie, pay others to lie, it doesn't change the truth. I have worked very hard over the years to build a strong reputation for quality work and professionalism with a large network of companies and individual webmasters. I did so for two reasons. One, it was the right thing to do... and two, it works very well for defending my brands when a loud-mouth liar like you decides to try and smear my company. You are a joke.

well again, we'll just have to take your word for it since everyone else involved remembers it a different way.

and I'm sorry about the picture. you seem to like photochops and you're just not interesting enough for me to search for a second picture of you.

just to recap.
we fired you for doing shitty work. 3 out of the 4 of us involved agree. 1 of us wants to post links and photochops to distract from his lies.

the liar then continues by trying to disparage two other people's reputations for telling the truth. Both of who's reputations are above reproach.

continue to dig, nit wit.

Relentless · 03-01-2012, 09:31 AM

You seem to think that if you post last in a thread people will not bother scrolling up to read the rest of what has been written before it. Lying as the last statement must be some kind of 'advanced lying technique' that you developed after many years of practice... Spacing out each sentence to take up more screen space is also an interesting technique of selling your lies by moving the truth further out of visible screen area.

Anyone who reads this thread will see plenty of proof posted by me and a lot of very obvious lies posted by you or people you pay to post. More importantly, I can provide many references for my work, and usually I can provide someone the prospective client already knows and trusts as a specific reference. You lying doesn't change that. You posting last and lying also doesn't change that.

12clicks · 03-01-2012, 09:35 AM

just to recap.
we fired you for doing shitty work. 3 out of the 4 of us involved agree. 1 of us wants to post links and photochops to distract from his lies.

the liar then continues by trying to disparage two other people's reputations for telling the truth. Both of who's reputations are above reproach.

continue to dig, nit wit.

Relentless · 03-01-2012, 09:38 AM

Let me help

you push

the links and proof further...

off the page.

Do you really think webmasters are incapable of scrolling up or reading this thread from the start to see screenshots of your testimonial, links were Cyndalie wrote I am the best writer she knows and a whole host of other facts that specifically disprove your lies?

12clicks · 03-01-2012, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless

Let me help

you push

the links and proof further...

off the page.

Do you really think webmasters are incapable of scrolling up or reading this thread from the start to see screenshots of your testimonial, links were Cyndalie wrote I am the best writer she knows and a whole host of other facts that specifically disprove your lies?

just to recap.
we fired you for doing shitty work. 3 out of the 4 of us involved agree. 1 of us wants to post links and photochops to distract from his lies.

the liar then continues by trying to disparage two other people's reputations for telling the truth. Both of who's reputations are above reproach.

continue to dig, nit wit.

Relentless · 03-01-2012, 09:47 AM

Copy and pasting your text is the same thing many cheap writers do. On a forum system it may work to save you some time, but when you want to generate SEO value, visitor retention or improved sales ratios it is a very bad idea. Maybe you should apply to be the $500 writer for the OP's 10,000 scene text job. You can copy and paste your lies there instead.

Barefootsies · 03-01-2012, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless

You sure do love that four year old photo of me after a few drinks at JBM Hooters in Phoenix.

I am surprised that your JBM, "Ronald Mc12clicks", chop had not been posted yet.

That aside, I better understand the JBM duels between you two. Complete with jester emote. I thought it was just some board bantering. Not so much the past working relationship.

Relentless · 03-01-2012, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

I am surprised that your JBM, "Ronald Mc12clicks", chop had not been posted yet. That aside, now I better understand the JBM duels between you two.

A variation was posted earlier. Fans of the image can see Ronald Mc12clicks as part of the 'Single White Female' DVD box cover parody I posted a few pages back.

In a few ways this thread has been very helpful. Now when Ronald starts lying, I can just post a link to this URL for anyone who is interested to see the full set of facts, without having to rehash the same ground that has already been covered. Also, I have been contacted by a couple lurkers interested in becoming writers, and I have gotten more than a few laughs form the ICQ messages people have sent me about this thread. I am not the only person or company Ronald has lied about. I am not the only bridge he has burned. Threads like this often bring out plenty of new potential business associates.

"Ronald wanted me to send xsell clients to him, which I refused. Ronald doesn't like anyone who disagrees with him ever for any reason. He will lie, stalk them on message-boards or do whatever else he thinks he can do to irritate them." There you go Ronald, you can quote me on that and use it as my testimonial for you. It's only fair, since you wrote one for me years ago.

Barefootsies · 03-01-2012, 10:03 AM

Ah, well there is apparently no love loss between you two, and I can see why better now since all of this stuff posted about the past relationship. I thought that before the JBM banter was just a part of will76 part duex since 12clicks has a lot of trolls following him around.

That being said, 12clicks has an entertaining style of posting on the forums. I have come to appreciate it more as I have gotten older.... "pearls before swine", "shitstain", etc.. It really seems to get those without money spitting blood. Which I think he really enjoys.

I think we need Eric/Theo to add in that jester emote from JBM has just for him.

Sophie Delancey · 03-01-2012, 10:06 AM

In the time it took you both to fight to the death here, you could have used your time and energy to knock out some projects and put those words towards those 10k videos. GFY is a fun place to unwind and check out business potential, but don't forget to keep an eye on productivity before you're 3 pages deep in bickering.

Relentless · 03-01-2012, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Sophie Delancey

In the time it took you both to fight to the death here, you could have used your time and energy to knock out some projects and put those words towards those 10k videos. GFY is a fun place to unwind and check out business potential, but don't forget to keep an eye on productivity before you're 3 pages deep in bickering.

I agree completely. However, I am sure you would also agree that allowing someone to lie about me or my company without posting detailed facts to the contrary would be a poor outcome. The fact that message-boards are all text also works to my advantage, because each post I write serves as an example of my work and a thread like this one brings me new opportunities for business with people who read it. I have managed to get some work done on my sites while disproving Ronald's lies, but I would no doubt have gotten more done if he didn't start posting those lies in the first place.

Barefootsies · 03-01-2012, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless

I agree completely. However, I am sure you would also agree that allowing someone to lie about me or my company without posting detailed facts to the contrary would be a poor outcome. The fact that message-boards are all text also works to my advantage, because each post I write serves as an example of my work and a thread like this one brings me new opportunities for business with people who read it. I have managed to get some work done on my sites while disproving Ronald's lies, but I would no doubt have gotten more done if he didn't start posting those lies in the first place.

While I enjoy reading the daily posts from both of you at times, I think your time would have been better served working on your business than battling with 12clicks on multiple message boards.

No offense.

Relentless · 03-01-2012, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

While I enjoy reading the daily posts from both of you at times, I think your time would have been better served working on your business than battling with 12clicks on multiple message boards. No offense.

I appreciate the advice. No offense taken. When someone posts baseless lies about you and your business, tries to back them up by having employees post false agreement with them, and stalks you from one thread to the next... try not replying. See if that works out better for you in the long run. My experience is that it won't.

Ronald's lies left on their own tend to be believed, his lies immediately countered with proof including screenshots and contrary URLs tend to be shown for the false nonsense that they are, and that does have value to my brand in the long term.

12clicks · 03-01-2012, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless

I appreciate the advice. No offense taken. When someone posts baseless lies about you and your business, tries to back them up by having employees post false agreement with them, and stalks you from one thread to the next... try not replying. See if that works out better for you in the long run. My experience is that it won't.

Ronald's lies left on their own tend to be believed, his lies immediately countered with proof including screenshots and contrary URLs tend to be shown for the false nonsense that they are, and that does have value to my brand in the long term.

just to recap.
we fired you for doing shitty work. 3 out of the 4 of us involved agree. 1 of us wants to post links and photochops to distract from his lies.

the liar then continues by trying to disparage two other people's reputations for telling the truth. Both of who's reputations are above reproach.

continue to dig, nit wit.

Relentless · 03-01-2012, 11:29 AM

Thanks for your help Ronald. Due solely to your lies in this thread and my ability to disprove them, two of my clients have graciously offered to post here (I refused because they don't need to be lied about by you and I can defend my company on my own). One potential new client has contacted me about site work they want written and referenced this thread as the way they found EngineFood, and two nice people looking to become writers have contacted me as well. Stop lying about me and my company. People can all see many examples of my work, numerous references available upon request, links to the contrary of what you and your cronies claim... Nobody with any sense believes you.

12clicks · 03-01-2012, 11:36 AM

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Thanks for your help Ronald. Due solely to your lies in this thread and my ability to disprove them, two of my clients have graciously offered to post here (I refused because they don't need to be lied about by you and I can defend my company on my own). One potential new client has contacted me about site work they want written and referenced this thread as the way they found EngineFood, and two nice people looking to become writers have contacted me as well. Stop lying about me and my company. People can all see many examples of my work, numerous references available upon request, links to the contrary of what you and your cronies claim... Nobody with any sense believes you.

I must thank you too, Klewless. Due solely to your lies in this thread and my ability to disprove them, two martians have graciously offered to post here (I refused because they don't need to be lied about by you and I can defend my company on my own). One potential third martian has contacted me about site work they want written and referenced this thread as the way they found Earth, and two nice plutonians wanting to become martians have contacted me as well. Stop lying about me and my company. Nobody with any sense believes you.

12clicks · 03-01-2012, 11:37 AM

fuck, I have to break character here just to laugh at the "look at all the work this thread got me" bullshit.
kinda like the "so many people have contacted me on icq" bullshit.

Relentless · 03-01-2012, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

I must thank you too, Klewless. Due solely to your lies in this thread and my ability to disprove them, two martians have graciously offered to post here (I refused because they don't need to be lied about by you and I can defend my company on my own). One potential third martian has contacted me about site work they want written and referenced this thread as the way they found Earth, and two nice plutonians wanting to become martians have contacted me as well. Stop lying about me and my company. Nobody with any sense believes you.

I see you are working on your ability to create cheap morphed text by swapping out certain nouns. If you would like additional practice I recommend you visit www.MadLibs.com and get yourself a workbook to use. If you really want the 500 dollar 10,000 scene writing job offered earlier in this thread you surely should bone up on your ability to fill in new nouns for texts that other people wrote originally.

Relentless · 03-01-2012, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

fuck, I have to break character here...

That's the saddest part Ronald. I used to think your board persona was a character you portrayed. However, the more I am told about you and the more I read, the more obvious it becomes that you are a liar. You aren't playing a character who lies, you are a liar.

12clicks · 03-01-2012, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless

That's the saddest part Ronald. I used to think your board persona was a character you portrayed. However, the more I am told about you and the more I read, the more obvious it becomes that you are a liar. You aren't playing a character who lies, you are a liar.

well stewart, if I'm lying about your business, you could sue me for damages. easy money.

oh right, you can't lie in a court of law like you can on GFY.
(another lesson you learned from your pre-porn days, eh, liar?)

12clicks · 03-01-2012, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless

I see you are working on your ability to create cheap morphed text by swapping out certain nouns. If you would like additional practice I recommend you visit www.MadLibs.com and get yourself a workbook to use. If you really want the 500 dollar 10,000 scene writing job offered earlier in this thread you surely should bone up on your ability to fill in new nouns for texts that other people wrote originally.

I'm in this thread grinding a liar under my heel, you're the one fighting over industry scraps with the filipinos.

12clicks · 03-01-2012, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless

However, the more I am told about you

hahaha, I almost missed this!

are they telling you in icq?

klewless, know one who does business with me would have a conversation with you. One of their employees might tell you they're not hiring but thats pretty much as far as that goes.

Relentless · 03-01-2012, 11:57 AM

To successfully sue you I'd first have to be able to show that a reasonable person might actually have believed anything you are saying and that it in some way negatively impacted my business. I'm also not the type to go around suing every clown who says something untrue. In fact, there is no way anyone reasonable would believe what you have said and your own 'friends' continue to hire me. You are a well-known liar and deep down you already know that. This thread does an excellent job of proving it.

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12clicks · 03-01-2012, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless

To successfully sue you I'd first have to be able to show that a reasonable person might actually have believed anything you are saying and that it in some way negatively impacted my business. In fact, there is no way anyone reasonable would believe what you have said and your own 'friends' continue to hire me. You are a well-known liar and deep down you already know that. This thread does an excellent job of proving it.

just to recap.
we fired you for doing shitty work. 3 out of the 4 of us involved agree. 1 of us wants to post links and photochops to distract from his lies.

the liar then continues by trying to disparage two other people's reputations for telling the truth. Both of who's reputations are above reproach.

continue to dig, nit wit.

02-29-2012, 09:00 PM	#101
harvey Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 9,266	I has 100 test descrictions! __________________ This post is endorsed by CIA, KGB, MI6, the Mafia, Illuminati, Kim Jong Il, Worldwide Ninjas Association, Klingon Empire and lolcats. Don't mess around with it, just accept it and embrace the truth

02-29-2012, 09:29 PM	#103
Relentless www.EngineFood.com Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,697	Earlier in this thread and in other threads you have stated you did supply a testimonial. You also said cyndalie fired me? Now it's you again and you didnt supply one? haha Are you that poor a liar that you can't even keep your false story straight for the length of a whole thread. What happened to you Ronald? If you don't like me that's fine. If you prefer not to work with me, that's very much mutual. That being said, your lies are silly and very transparent. You aren't fooling anyone. Last edited by Relentless; 02-29-2012 at 09:33 PM..

03-01-2012, 06:47 AM	#107
Relentless www.EngineFood.com Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,697	Keep lying Ronald. There is no point in continuing to discuss things with you. Any time you are cornered by reason, you lie in a pathetic attempt to deflect or reinvent the situation. That makes talking with you a complete wast of time. We both know the truth, and so do my clients. __________________ Website Secure \| Engine Food ICQ# 266-942-896

03-01-2012, 07:35 AM	#110
Cyndalie Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ Posts: 3,615	I rarely post and don't get involved with drama, but I remember it was ModF who actually fired him paying him about 1/3 of way through and not using him again. I was stuck having to get it redone eventually. We DO still laugh about what he thought was good text when the subject comes up in the office. __________________ Cyndalie Marketing Director StoriesTraffic.com

03-01-2012, 08:30 AM	#118
Relentless www.EngineFood.com Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,697	It's amazing how far off track this thread went. Just to reiterate, if you are paying $500 for 10,000 scenes of text, you likely are not getting content of any real value. __________________ Website Secure \| Engine Food ICQ# 266-942-896

03-01-2012, 08:17 AM	#117
B.Barnato So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,618	Wow This Space For Rent indeed.

03-01-2012, 08:42 AM	#119
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,786	hahahaha, keep digging, dipshit. I'm sure you thought it was cute to try pissing up at your betters. Sadly for you, I have a long term memory and long term employees who were there. you were a joke then and a lying joke now. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

03-01-2012, 08:47 AM	#120
Relentless www.EngineFood.com Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,697	Ronald... do you really think people do not notice your name-calling fails to address the facts posted in this thread? Here are a couple more links for you to look up: http://hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah...ght=Relentless Thread Title: Any Trusted Writers Here? Cyndalie Says: "Relentless is the best I know." http://hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah...ght=enginefood From 09-28-2009, years after I had completed your work and gotten a testimonial as to its quality, Cyndalie was still recommending EngineFood I know you were banned from that board and that you subsequently required Cyndalie and your other employees stop posting there. I find it ironic that you are now reversing course and requiring your employees to actively post here. It doesn't make your lies any more believable. It just makes it easier for me to disprove them. __________________ Website Secure \| Engine Food ICQ# 266-942-896 Last edited by Relentless; 03-01-2012 at 08:50 AM..

03-01-2012, 08:49 AM	#121
Relentless www.EngineFood.com Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,697	The MP board urls come up 'haha' on GFY. If anyone wants the actual urls feel free to contact me via ICQ or Email. If the search function on JBM worked I am confident I would easily find plenty more as well. __________________ Website Secure \| Engine Food ICQ# 266-942-896

03-01-2012, 09:02 AM	#124
Relentless www.EngineFood.com Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,697	My work was apparently good enough for Cyndalie to actively recommend me on a number of industry boards and to refer clients to me years after my work for you was completed (as proven by the urls posted). It was also good enough for you to supply a testimonial which is something you yourself noted as something you don't usually do for people (as proven by the wayback url and screenshot posted). More importantly, it is good enough to keep a long list of top companies happy for years (as proven by references available any time for prospective clients). You lying about any of that doesn't change the facts. You paying people to lie about it doesn't change their previously recorded statements. I still won't refer clients to you for your xsell business Ronald. Lying about me won't change that either. __________________ Website Secure \| Engine Food ICQ# 266-942-896 Last edited by Relentless; 03-01-2012 at 09:04 AM..

03-01-2012, 09:21 AM	#126
Relentless www.EngineFood.com Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,697	You sure do love that four year old photo of me after a few drinks at JBM Hooters in Phoenix. We already discussed the fact that a person doesn't need to be a male model to succeed in this business (or pretty much any other besides male modeling). People hire me for my marketing abilities and talent for writing massive amounts of high quality text. I provide it as well or better than anyone else. Your own in-house SEO director posted her agreement with that several times after I stopped working for Mojo's company. Distract, lie, pay others to lie, it doesn't change the truth. I have worked very hard over the years to build a strong reputation for quality work and professionalism with a large network of companies and individual webmasters. I did so for two reasons. One, it was the right thing to do... and two, it works very well for defending my brands when a loud-mouth liar like you decides to try and smear my company. You are a joke. __________________ Website Secure \| Engine Food ICQ# 266-942-896

03-01-2012, 09:31 AM	#128
Relentless www.EngineFood.com Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,697	You seem to think that if you post last in a thread people will not bother scrolling up to read the rest of what has been written before it. Lying as the last statement must be some kind of 'advanced lying technique' that you developed after many years of practice... Spacing out each sentence to take up more screen space is also an interesting technique of selling your lies by moving the truth further out of visible screen area. Anyone who reads this thread will see plenty of proof posted by me and a lot of very obvious lies posted by you or people you pay to post. More importantly, I can provide many references for my work, and usually I can provide someone the prospective client already knows and trusts as a specific reference. You lying doesn't change that. You posting last and lying also doesn't change that. __________________ Website Secure \| Engine Food ICQ# 266-942-896 Last edited by Relentless; 03-01-2012 at 09:32 AM..

03-01-2012, 09:35 AM	#129
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,786	just to recap. we fired you for doing shitty work. 3 out of the 4 of us involved agree. 1 of us wants to post links and photochops to distract from his lies. the liar then continues by trying to disparage two other people's reputations for telling the truth. Both of who's reputations are above reproach. continue to dig, nit wit. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

03-01-2012, 09:38 AM	#130
Relentless www.EngineFood.com Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,697	Let me help you push the links and proof further... off the page. Do you really think webmasters are incapable of scrolling up or reading this thread from the start to see screenshots of your testimonial, links were Cyndalie wrote I am the best writer she knows and a whole host of other facts that specifically disprove your lies? __________________ Website Secure \| Engine Food ICQ# 266-942-896

03-01-2012, 09:47 AM	#132
Relentless www.EngineFood.com Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,697	Copy and pasting your text is the same thing many cheap writers do. On a forum system it may work to save you some time, but when you want to generate SEO value, visitor retention or improved sales ratios it is a very bad idea. Maybe you should apply to be the $500 writer for the OP's 10,000 scene text job. You can copy and paste your lies there instead. __________________ Website Secure \| Engine Food ICQ# 266-942-896

03-01-2012, 10:03 AM	#135
Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	Ah, well there is apparently no love loss between you two, and I can see why better now since all of this stuff posted about the past relationship. I thought that before the JBM banter was just a part of will76 part duex since 12clicks has a lot of trolls following him around. That being said, 12clicks has an entertaining style of posting on the forums. I have come to appreciate it more as I have gotten older.... "pearls before swine", "shitstain", etc.. It really seems to get those without money spitting blood. Which I think he really enjoys. I think we need Eric/Theo to add in that jester emote from JBM has just for him. __________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?" Last edited by Barefootsies; 03-01-2012 at 10:05 AM..

03-01-2012, 10:06 AM	#136
Sophie Delancey Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 1,249	In the time it took you both to fight to the death here, you could have used your time and energy to knock out some projects and put those words towards those 10k videos. GFY is a fun place to unwind and check out business potential, but don't forget to keep an eye on productivity before you're 3 pages deep in bickering. __________________ Bright Desire - Smart, sensual porn. [email protected] Skype - SophieDelancey Twitter - @SophieDelancey ICQ - 602670915

03-01-2012, 11:29 AM	#141
Relentless www.EngineFood.com Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,697	Thanks for your help Ronald. Due solely to your lies in this thread and my ability to disprove them, two of my clients have graciously offered to post here (I refused because they don't need to be lied about by you and I can defend my company on my own). One potential new client has contacted me about site work they want written and referenced this thread as the way they found EngineFood, and two nice people looking to become writers have contacted me as well. Stop lying about me and my company. People can all see many examples of my work, numerous references available upon request, links to the contrary of what you and your cronies claim... Nobody with any sense believes you. __________________ Website Secure \| Engine Food ICQ# 266-942-896

03-01-2012, 11:37 AM	#143
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,786	fuck, I have to break character here just to laugh at the "look at all the work this thread got me" bullshit. kinda like the "so many people have contacted me on icq" bullshit. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

03-01-2012, 11:57 AM	#149
Relentless www.EngineFood.com Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,697	To successfully sue you I'd first have to be able to show that a reasonable person might actually have believed anything you are saying and that it in some way negatively impacted my business. I'm also not the type to go around suing every clown who says something untrue. In fact, there is no way anyone reasonable would believe what you have said and your own 'friends' continue to hire me. You are a well-known liar and deep down you already know that. This thread does an excellent job of proving it. You Might Also Find This Chart Helpful: __________________ Website Secure \| Engine Food ICQ# 266-942-896 Last edited by Relentless; 03-01-2012 at 12:00 PM..