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Stephen

Folks may think he is joking, but this is much closer to it...

Even at that rate, you won't get too much lovin' from my WordTracker

panchodog's izzy

I don't know, Stephen, let's say 10 words in the title and 15 in the description (give or take for a total of 25 words) give you a total of 250,000 words. You could get a price range of anything from $5,000 or lower. How low is going to depend on the writer, of course.

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scottybuzz

your fdsign?
damn you have done some good work for me in the past. Sorry i've not kept in touch, been so busy.

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Relentless

The vast majority of internet content is text. The majority of sites that rank well and do well are owned by businesses that recognize the value of quality text content. Google, again, recently devalued sites with poorly written content, morphing text or content spinners. I provide the highest quality content to many top sites in their market segments in mainstream and adult. My clients are happy, their customers are happy, the search engines are happy and I am happy with our arrangements.

You are oddly fascinated by me in a disturbing 'single white female' stalker sort of way. Hopefully the roofing and x-sell business markets will recover for you soon. Then maybe you can take an interest in your own business opportunities and get on with your life. In the meantime, it would be hard for your opinions about text content to matter any less than they already do.

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BFT3K

I would like all of my sites redesigned. Does $25 sound reasonable?

seolinker

I am from 3rd world. $3k would sound average;)

12clicks

Considering I hired you to do some text work, stopped you half way thru, and then paid someone else to re-do everything you did (in other words, fired and replaced you) your above drivel is laughable.
Pretending you're better than a Filipino is also laughable.
As a veteran program operator, I owe it to the group to call bullshit

Now come back and tell us all how wonderful your imaginary business is.

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Dirty F

Decent comeback...
What will Relentless in the left corner do?

12clicks

You're growing on me, frank.
Like a retarded little next door neighbor

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Dirty F

God, that made my day.

Relentless

Wow Ronald. I'm surprised to see you actually lying so blatantly. You used to be smarter than that.

You hired me one time, about 5 years ago, to do a tiny $100 text job for your 12X sites which were never intended to generate sales from their tours. I did that work for you so quickly and so well that you offered to post a testimonial in favor of my work on www.EngineFood.com, along with 10 pages of other testimonials from satisfied clients.

Then you agreed several times to appear as a quoted source in magazine articles I wrote. Yet strangely, right about the time I told you that I would not refer site owners to you for cross-selling, your tune suddenly changed. I don't mind at all that you changed your tune, and in fact as I have told you before, your dislike has actually brought me a fair amount of clients from the long list of people who dislike you. Ironically, some of my other clients are the same people you work with or have worked with in the past. It seems the whole world can continue doing quite well without you.


* Your Single White Female routine is getting increasingly disturbing

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tonyparra

He said REWRITE not original text I can get it done for $1500

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Hahaha, no surprise! A fairy tale and a photochop to distract.

We hired you to vid cap all 12 sites. Are you saying your price for vid capping the tours for all 12 sites was $100?
We fired you about 4 sites in.
Much later you begged me in icq to give you a blurb for your site. After you made it clear I'd either have to put you on ignore or toss you a blurb, I did. If you bothered the other programs the way you bothered me, I'm not surprised you got other blurbs.
Onto your other lies. Yes, when you asked me for a quote, I gave it. Not because of your scary ability, but for the publication you were in. Yes, I USED you for free press. Unlike your lies about when I finally wrote you off, it didn't come when you told me you didn't know anyone that was in the Xsell game, it actually came when the shit you wrote both here and in magazines became so idiotic that I could no longer be associated with you.
You'll also note that I've distanced myself from the rags you still write for when it became clear that they were more interested in filling the page with words instead of facts.
And lastly, dear liar, a challenge you to do a search here and see when the last time I noticed you was. Was it twice in a year?

No, when I saw you making claims in this thread that flew in the face of the facts, I made a post.

It's hard hanging onto that bottom rung with your work history, I know.
Hang in their!

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Oh, and single white female was a movie about someone wanting to live someone else's life.
Trust me son, I have no interest living in your Mom's basement, fighting Filipinos for scraps in this biz.
That's all you.

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We both know the facts of what happened Ronald. You can try and rewrite history five years later, but it doesn't change the facts. The work you requested was done completely to your satisfaction. I agreed to quote you in articles, and anyone who takes a look at JBM can see from your posts that we got along swimmingly... until all of a sudden your tune changed. Ironic that it happened right around the time I told you I had no intention of sending you x-sell business.

You didn't 'distance yourself' from industry magazines, you became increasingly clandestine and less relevant, so you didn't warrant much of their attention. If you dislike XBIZ, AVN, Fubartimes and others you should take it up with them, though the list of noteworthy businesses you claim to dislike sure is becoming awfully long and strangely irrational.

The people you are trying to dissuade from hiring me already work with me, and are happy with the content I produce. I have plenty of references, examples of my work, site ranks and other resources to demonstrate the value of what I provide. On the other hand, you have Mojo's dry-cleaning to pick up, a few lies, a big mouth and not much else. Why don't you go back over to JBM and try again to explain to everyone why Facebook is a weak company or why all of India is not a worthwhile market. You used to post wildly inaccurate opinions, now you have stepped down to simply lying.

It's sad to watch... even from a distance.

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Dirty F

I hate to say it but you're both quite funny


(Like a retarded little next door neighbour ofcourse)

fris

10k would be a price thats reasonable

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I would do it for $5000, and I am going to enjoy it as well

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Dirty F

I love it how everyone is throwing around prices like 3k 5k 10k while the topic starter is nowhere to be found anymore.
I don't mean it in a bad way but i don't think he's willing to spend 5k on some text. I can totally understand why

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Hahaha. For $100, right? We stopped you from wasting our time and paid you to be rid of you.
[QUOTE=Relentless;18790283] I agreed to quote you in articles, and anyone who takes a look at JBM can see from your posts that we got along swimmingly... until all of a sudden your tune changed. Ironic that it happened right around the time I told you I had no intention of sending you x-sell business.[\quote] what an imagination. I made that some offer to many people who weren't making much money. I couldn't have cared any less when you told me you didn't have those type of connections than I cared for the others who also didn't know anyone.
I shed you when you started pontificating about a business you knew nothing about. Once your body of idiot logic was out there, I added you to my icq ignore list and that was that.

son, if you could have afforded to go to a show in the last 5 years, you'd have seen me speaking on panels, sponsoring events, etc. your silly little lies don't really hold up outside of your Mom's basement. so you didn't warrant much of their attention.
Silly kid, I've actually been asked about how to improve one of them and you'll note that at least one of them has quietly shed you as well.

your client list is loaded with people like me who used you once, saw what you were about and moved on.

It is sad to watch. You lying about things easily proven to pick up the same scraps you were fighting for 5 years ago.
Ok, it's not sad, it's funny as hell.

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Dirty F

Holy rant Batman! Looks like Relentless pushed some buttons.

Dirty F

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Let's not confuse a boring happy hour with pushed buttons, franky.

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TheSquealer

Its irritating watching some of the "writers" on GFY acting like they are curing cancer in children. Any idiot can find a 3rd world writer with good enough English to get the job done.

I hired full time writers for over a year a couple years back. My strategy was to give 4-5 people at once a chance and settle with the most dependable and reliable or keep doing it until I found good people. I think Relentless was one that i pass over because he was just so arrogant and expensive and really didn't seem to get that we weren't translating ancient texts or classified documents. He kept babbling about SEO and quality writing and showing me his sites as if he actually had traffic or as if Google Web Spam guys are sitting in their cubicles jerking off to his blog posts. If you know so much about SEO... you'd be busy with SEO. If you were any good at anything online, you'd be measuring your success in dollars and not pennies per word.

That jfalcon guy is another (the guy from Uruguay). He was also the least reliable, always behind, always promising/delivering late, talking about how awesome he was etc... so I shut him down right away. Ironically, i ended up hiring a guy that had just quit working with him who was extremely reliable and followed every instruction to the letter.

No surprise that they both come off as very self righteous and arrogant on the boards.

Writing in this business is the lowest art form and requires the least amount of talent. Particularly since we aren't selling writing.

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Well and concisely written.

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Relentless

I own plenty of sites and many of them have done quite well for me. Many of them have done very well for others. I own my own affiliate program, review site network, exclusive content paysites, affiliate referral sites, blogs, tubes and so on. However, what I do best is write. The sites I own are an extension of my ability to sell words. Search engines, recurring site members, site membership buyers, mainstream consumers, magazine readers etc.... appreciate text content when it is done well.

Saying a writer should only write for his own sites is akin to saying a shooter should never sell video content, or a site owner with traffic should never sell clicks. That's a fairly shortsighted business model. In the last few years I have sold more than one million words per year. If you had the ability to generate a massive amount of high quality text, you would build your own sites as I have and sell text to others as well. You'd also develop the ability to provide backlinks from quality sites and other useful services in social media or other aspects of web business that benefit from a nearly endless supply of high quality original text. You may think text is the low end of webmastering. Fortunately for me, Google and many others strongly disagree with you. That's not a statement made from arrogance, it's a statement made after seeing actual results on very high traffic sites over a long period of time.

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Relentless

I pushed buttons years ago... When I refused to send Ronald xsellers from my client list. Since that time he has been following me around the Internet trying desperately to stalk me. That's the only reason he is in this thread and others. The sad thing for him is that my clients are happy with my work. So he embarrasses himself by lying on the boards and hoping people who are already satisfied will somehow become unsatisfied just because he lies. You would think as a captain of industry he would have better things to do with his time. Maybe he is lying about more than what he said in this thread...

porno jew

not going to read all that.

TheSquealer

Thank you, if you would like me to write your posts for you, I charge .10 a word. I'll get Chow Yun Bao and Habib on it ASAP. All posts will be cleverly written and represent you in the best light possible. I just need some clear guidelines and an advance payment so I can pay my virtual hosting account for my super awesome SEO super mega site where i rank number 1 for the phrase "perfect drunk one legged teen jacking off horse donkey".

Please see a sample of my work:

"The most honorable glorious 12clicks Sir, most perfectly adapted his try to destroy Einstein idea of Theory of Evolution while eating freezed milk"

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TheSquealer

Yeah, tube sites own the SERPs because they are full of great text. I personally find surfing pornhub.com to be much like reading Hemingway... probably why their bounce rate stays low.. its a real page turner.

Selling text is a scam unless someone needs legit product descriptions of specific text for a site they don't want to write. And its a shitty business. Thats why you, Jfalcon and $5submissions are here feverishly posting or cutting and pasting stupid shit, hoping to scrape up some business.

If Google cared so much about great text,and you're such a great writer, you'd be owning any phrase you want... but Google doesn't care and you don't. End of story.

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Rochard

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Ahahaha, you run with that story, vid capper.

Odd that not a single one of your many clients has anything positive to say about you.
You're nothing but a bottom feeding troll who's mouth has lost him more business than his fantasy land lies can cover up.

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Lying?
Let my ask Cyndalie in the morning how she remembers your buffoonery.

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Relentless

Will a billion well-written words on a brand new blog outrank a tube site with thousands of full length videos and an average time on site of 20 minutes or more? Of course not. However, will a tube site with a 20 minute time on site rank for even more terms and bring in even more traffic by adding higher quality scene titles, text descriptions, model bios, a blog, erotic stories and other text content? Yes, definitely. Will quality text content improve average time on site and bounce rates? Yes. There are many valuable ways to use quality text. That doesn't mean all text is good or that every project needs text. However, bad text or duplicate content is a serious liability.

I'll give you a real world example. A client of mine has a site with thousands of active members. In the members area he posted a survey question asking 'what makes this site better than all others' and as multiple choice answers he listed: video quality, interface/player options, video quantity and site text. You'll chuckle when you read that only 3% of the thousands of people responding chose site text as the primary factor that made this their site of choice. However the site owner had a different reaction, he realized 30 out of every thousand members said the text on his site was retaining their interest. When you consider that the text was intended to please search engines and entice tour visitors to convert... the fact that 3% of his members listed text ahead of video or interface is significant... and even more likely would have chosen it as their second or third choice.

This thread has gotten more than 1000 views on less than 100 posts. The one thing readers can all take away from that fact is that text is very interesting when it is well-written and about a topic the reader enjoys. In the case of his thread, webmaster drama text is improving retention ... In the case of other sites the topics change but the impact remains noticeable. I appreciate your time and effort in helping me to demo my abilities as a writer, and I am confident a writer willing to do 10,000 scenes for 500 bucks would have had a significantly weaker ability to keep people interested in their work. ;)

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phypon

What is your contact info?

Relentless

I have plenty of people willing to act as references for my work.
That doesn't mean they would want to waste their time answering your idiotic posts.
You are a liar who becomes less relevant with each passing day.
Find something else to do with your time. Your opinions and lies have no value.

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Relentless

Icq 266 942 896 or you can email Stewart at EngineFood.com

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u-Bob

like Sly said: split it up.

that way you spread the risk and you'll get titles and descriptions in different writing styles.

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Well we'll just take your word for it.
Since you can produce ZERO other than that for us to go on.

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Liar?
Son, I had Cyndalie fire you because what you gave us was shit.

Anyone who you've done GOOD work for would gladly post here just as anyone who's done good work for me I'd have no problem defending with a SINGLE post.

It's a simple thing unless your a chatboard pretender.


Son, pretending only takes you do far.
That's why you haven't been to a show in 5 years. Airlines don't accept pretend currency.

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Ronald,

People continue to rehire me over and over and over again. Many of my clients have worked with me for years on a variety of projects. That's how I know they like my work. New clients can easily get references about me from business owners they already know, clearly stating that my work is excellent and that I am a trusted part of their operations. My clients don't need to prove anything by arguing with a liar like you on GFY. You are important only to yourself.

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Or said another way, your imaginary clients can't post in the real world.

Your name is still to this day a joke in my office. Any time we farm out work and it comes back below par, someone always busts out the "is this relentless under a new name" line.
We all laugh.

How much you wanna bet I can ask Cyn to dig up the icq convo where she fired you tomorrow morning?

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Relentless

As with most lies, your story continues to change. Earlier you were claiming it was you who 'fired me', now it's Cyndalie who supposedly 'fired me.' What actually happened is you sent me a check and told me you were very pleased with the work. So pleased in fact that you supplied a testimonial for my site. I had to use the wayback machine to find an older version of my site showing your testimonial since I had removed it long ago. You should be able to see it here: http://web.archive.org/web/200807012...imonials4.html


So Ronald, were you lying to the adult webmaster community then, when you posted the testimonial on my site for other site owners to read, or are you lying now? Either way, there is little doubt at this point that you are are in fact a liar and therefore pretty much anything else you have to say carries very little weight.

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Since I own my company, anything I direct my people to do is what I do.
I couldn't be nice about you wasting my time so I asked Cyndalie to handle it.
Now, about the bullshit you have on your site that you claim was written by me, I'd say this:
People, not only is relentless incompetent and great at making false claims about his abilities, but it seems he'll falsely attribute glowing testimonials to you that he's written.

My advice is to avoid him at all costs. After 5 years pretending to be in this biz, he's learned nothing and what he offers as a service can be done better by Filipinos.

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Odd that not a single person you've done work for will say a good word about you

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It's funny watching bottom rungers spin out their lies amongst people who actually conduct business here.
See you in Phoenix?
Oh right, you've got excuses for not being able to afford shows too.
Hahahaha

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Relentless

Liar now or liar then Ronald? No answer eh? Why don't you think up a lie about it and go with that...

My clients are all excellent references. They don't post in your silly pissing contests on GFY.
If they did, you'd just lie about them or to them as well.
That's the problem with you being a liar. What you say has no value.

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