High school shooting in Ohio

[Chris]

Pretty crazy - 4 students shot and suspect has been arrested.

Wonder if it will come down to this kid being bullied

[DamianJ]

It will come down to the fact that it's really fucking easy to get a gun in Americanland.

[Coup]

Originally Posted by Chris

Pretty crazy - 4 students shot and suspect has been arrested.

Wonder if it will come down to this kid being bullied

it'll come down to the kid was sociopath/psychopath but that fact will be drowned out by a bunch bullying/violent media/porn or whatever nonsense, as usual. hth

[Chris]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

It will come down to the fact that it's really fucking easy to get a gun in Americanland.

fox news has already said 100x " We will find out how he got the weapon" they have already pretty much blamed the parents without saying it

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

It will come down to the fact that it's really fucking easy to get a gun in Americanland.

its also easy to get cigarettes, knives, gas, and alcohol not all of us smoke and drink, make bombs or stab people.

your logic is terribly flawed. terribly.

[MarkDeus]

Blame Heavy Metal, as always

[Tom_PM]

I thought I had it bad waking up sick to my stomach and with a headache. Damn crazy kid.

[L-Pink]

Sounds like someone got de-friended on facebook.

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[Chris]

wow fox news is letting students say the names of people who they think did it

[DWB]

Kids are not allowed to kill other innocent kids until they join the military. What were these dumb asses thinking?

Who can we blame this time.... Heavy metal? Drugs? Firearms? Ron Paul?

[MikeFold]

the local news here is has 'bleeped' out a live report from a student saying who it was who was in the room when this happened.....this is a rather upscale suburb/school too where this occured on the other side of town

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Coup

it'll come down to the kid was sociopath/psychopath but that fact will be drowned out by a bunch bullying/violent media/porn or whatever nonsense, as usual. hth

Who had easy access to a gun.

Unless the US has more sociopath/psychopath children than anywhere else.

Combination really, fucked up kids, country that has lax gun laws because they need to defend themselves against thugs and a psychology that makes kids think shooting someone is cool.

What was the age of the kid who shot a fellow student a couple of weeks ago. 7 or something?

JC it's not world wide. Dumb post as usual. You should blame it on aliens.

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Sounds like someone got de-friended on facebook.

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[nikki99]

Originally Posted by PornerBros

Blame Heavy Metal, as always

LOL.... Marilyn Manson and Judas Priest have victims so far

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

It will come down to the fact that it's really fucking easy to get a gun in Americanland.

guns are illegal as hell here and I can get one anywhere. a LOT easier than in the US.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

lol yup

They'll blame everyone except for the fact that there is about a 99% chance he was abused as a child and on pharma drugs. That'll never get mentioned.

Probably on ritalin since the age of 5 and has consumed nothing but fast food and aspartame his whole life.

[DWB]

Meanwhile around the world...

Around 18,000 children die every day because of hunger and malnutrition, yet it doesn't even make a blurb on the news ticker. (source)

[NaughtyVisions]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Kids are a direct result of how they are raised by their parents

In high school, I dressed in black every day (black jeans, black metal band t-shirt, my dad's old black combat boots from 'Nam). I had long hair down to the middle of my back. I loved metal (including "satanic bands" like Deicide) and horror movies. I always read books on the occult, and could almost always be seen carrying one of LaVey's books on Satanism. At 5' 5" and barely 120 lbs., everyone still moved out of my way when I walked down the halls, because of their believe that I was pure evil. I was anti-social, and only had a couple of people that I talked to.

But, at the same time that everyone thought I was sacrificing animals to a goat lord, I was also in Advanced Placement courses and getting a proper education. Those who actually talked to me found that I was always respectful and courteous, and always used my manners. By society's ideas, I should have been on a mass murdering rampage. But my parents raised me right.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions

In high school, I dressed in black every day (black jeans, black metal band t-shirt, my dad's old black combat boots from 'Nam). I had long hair down to the middle of my back. I loved metal (including "satanic bands" like Deicide) and horror movies. I always read books on the occult, and could almost always be seen carrying one of LaVey's books on Satanism. At 5' 5" and barely 120 lbs., everyone still moved out of my way when I walked down the halls, because of their believe that I was pure evil. I was anti-social, and only had a couple of people that I talked to.

But, at the same time that everyone thought I was sacrificing animals to a goat lord, I was also in Advanced Placement courses and getting a proper education. Those who actually talked to me found that I was always respectful and courteous, and always used my manners. By society's ideas, I should have been on a mass murdering rampage. But my parents raised me right.

same here. only thing i ever got in trouble for in highschool was wearing a Suicidal tendencies shirt. Labeled a misfit, outcast, etc,... got jumped by the prep boys/jocks and fought off 4 etc,... been through the same man.

And yes, meanwhile I was excelling in grades, passed their expectations and was one of the best students despite my metal fandom.

fuck the majority. ive seen of those same prep/jocks facebooks since, they are all working shit jobs and overweight.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Guns have nothing to do with it. Stop abusing children and making them live like slaves in these brain sucking public school systems and you won't see this kind of violence. Kids are a direct result of how they are raised by their parents

What part of "shooting" did you miss?

Yes society including parents are to blame as well.

Still ease of access to guns means more kids can get killed than kids with knives can. If they could only get a knife, they would kill less people. I'm sure you'll dispute this obvious fact, still won't make your objections worth reading. So welcome to my ignore list.

[Scott McD]

Why do Americans always go defensive when someone suggests America has a gun problem ??

Don't the stats back up the claim ?

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Still ease of access to guns means more kids can get killed than kids with knives can. If they could only get a knife, they would kill less people.

the problem with this logic is that the kids in america have way easier and more access to knives, so by your logic, why arent there MORE STABBINGS? Every household in america has knives, and plenty of them, yet not everyone has guns. Logic?

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Combination really, fucked up kids, country that has lax gun laws because they need to defend themselves against thugs and a psychology that makes kids think shooting someone is cool.

The root of the issue with people wanting to arm themselves has nothing to do with protecting ourselves from thugs. Tried to buy a gun here in the US recently? Didn't think so. Do you really believe the shit you typically spew?

I also don't know many young people who think that killing someone is cool. When was the last time you were in the States hanging out my young people Paul?

Originally Posted by Scott McD

Why do Americans always go defensive when someone suggests America has a gun problem ??

Don't the stats back up the claim ?

Because most people don't see it an issue and 99.999% of the time it has no effect on their lives.

So it's kinda fucked to see people know really don't know what they're talking about talking like their another expert, because they read something on the internet once or twice.

[NaughtyVisions]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

same here. only thing i ever got in trouble for in highschool was wearing a Suicidal tendencies shirt. Labeled a misfit, outcast, etc,... got jumped by the prep boys/jocks and fought off 4 etc,... been through the same man.

And yes, meanwhile I was excelling in grades, passed their expectations and was one of the best students despite my metal fandom.

fuck the majority. ive seen of those same prep/jocks facebooks since, they are all working shit jobs and overweight.

Senior year my gym teacher sent me to the principal's office because my White Zombie shirt said "I went to Hell and all I got was this crappy t-shirt" on the back. And, I had to move my hair for him to read it. They made me turn my shirt inside out, and called my mom at work. She asked the principal, "Don't you have something better to do?"

I could understand if it said "shitty t-shirt," but Hell is a place, and was used in that sense. The remainder of the year, I never wore the shirt again, but saw some other kid who didn't typically dress like a metalhead wear the same shirt over and over. He never got in trouble. I got singled out because of the stereotypes. Sadly, it's just the way it will always be, whether it's something minor like my t-shirt, or blaming the movies/music for the violence a disturbed individual commits.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

Why do Americans always go defensive when someone suggests America has a gun problem ??

Don't the stats back up the claim ?

Americans don't have a gun problem, they have a people problem. Guns themselves don't hurt anyone. It's the idiots who pick them up who cause all the problems.

And for the sake of debate, you could also blame the bullets.

[2012]

i blame the tubes

[L-Pink]

I have guns. I grew up in a house with guns. I also drink and own a car. I grew up in a household with both cars and liquor. No one in our family ever shot anyone or drove drunk. Maybe the problem is idiots and idiots do stupid things. Or is that to simple an explanation?

[DWB]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

lol its amazing how humans think

Already here everyone is talking about guns...simply amazing

Of course. No one wants to face reality and get to the root of WHY this kid shot four students and what honestly drove him to that point. And the answer isn't music. It's too easy to have a scape goat and wrap it up in politics so they can push some new agenda through.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions

Senior year my gym teacher sent me to the principal's office because my White Zombie shirt said "I went to Hell and all I got was this crappy t-shirt" on the back. And, I had to move my hair for him to read it. They made me turn my shirt inside out, and called my mom at work. She asked the principal, "Don't you have something better to do?"

I could understand if it said "shitty t-shirt," but Hell is a place, and was used in that sense. The remainder of the year, I never wore the shirt again, but saw some other kid who didn't typically dress like a metalhead wear the same shirt over and over. He never got in trouble. I got singled out because of the stereotypes. Sadly, it's just the way it will always be, whether it's something minor like my t-shirt, or blaming the movies/music for the violence a disturbed individual commits.

they wanted to call my mom and said I need help if I am suicidal. I was like it doesnt even say "tendencies" i told them the shirt said suicidal "frequencies" LOL they couldnt then and they still cannot read metal band names.

it was the famous Lights, Camera, Revolution, Suicidal T-shirt - cant believe how people overreact to things like shirts. Today theyd probably arrest me or something... if that happened now. I graduated in 1994 so its been awhile, they installedmetal detectors after i graduated.

[2012]

we have such a healthy society. giving, caring loving people. we hug the world with joy and love. why would our children be going insane ? didn't they watch the Oscars ? don't they know the TSA and new world homeland is watching out for them when they get fenagled at the airport ? is it the medication ? video games, what about all that free porn ? did Jesus die ? maybe they watch too much CNN. war is peace. hate is love

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

its also easy to get cigarettes, knives, gas, and alcohol not all of us smoke and drink, make bombs or stab people.

your logic is terribly flawed. terribly.

Yet more people die of gun violence than most countries in the world.
If guns weren't so easy to get than this fact would not exist.

[Brujah]

I feel a fatfoo moment is needed here. People are talking about guns because it was a ... shooting.

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

I have guns. I grew up in a house with guns. I also drink and own a car. I grew up in a household with both cars and liquor. No one in our family ever shot anyone or drove drunk. Maybe the problem is idiots and idiots do stupid things. Or is that to simple an explanation?

Not, that's correct. And the fact is that those idiots can easily get a gun in America. If that wouldn't be easy then there would be less gun accidents.

[DEA]

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Its not the GUNS ya dolt, it's the people who use the guns

No, you dumb sack of shit. They got killed by guns. Not cars, not knives, not swimmingpools but guns.

[Brujah]

Have we gotten to the need for Jesus in our lives more yet?

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Guns have NOTHING to do with this.

Other than that they were used to kill someone ofcourse. Small detail. Easy to overlook.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Dirty F

Not, that's correct. And the fact is that those idiots can easily get a gun in America. If that wouldn't be easy then there would be less gun accidents.

So then I shouldn't have the freedom to be a gun owner because there might be an idiot out there that will abuse guns?

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[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

So then I shouldn't have the freedom to be a gun owner because there might be an idiot out there that will abuse guns?

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Am i saying that?
Go ahead. I don't give a shit how many guns Americans own.

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

You need to come from a principles first point of view instead of trying to look at each event or "problem" in society as an isolated incident. They're not isolated at all...

In other news how many people die in automobile accidents each month? Lets ban cars!

Ah the dumb ass clown argument. You will always find this retard argument in the gun threads. It usually points out the most stupid.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by Dirty F

No, you dumb sack of shit. They got killed by guns. Not cars, not knives, not swimmingpools but guns.

right but you guys arent using your own logic properly.

Knives are easy to get, by your logic, there would be BILLIONS of child stabbings every day since EVERY house has knives. IM a gun owner, got my first gun at 10. I havent killed anyone. I got LOTS of knives, never stabbed anyone either.

logic.

[2012]

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

right but you guys arent using your own logic properly.

Knives are easy to get, by your logic, there would be BILLIONS of child stabbings every day since EVERY house has knives.

logic.

Stabbings happen. In my country, in your country. Impossible to prevent. Knives are needed in every day life. We can not ban knives.

Guns however are not needed in daily life. (cept for police etc). Adding guns in the mix will only result in people using guns to kill even more (and more easy).

It really is that simple.

[Dirty F]

Guess what, if you make bazookas legal most people will be responsible bazooka owners but there will be this kid who instead of using a knife, and then a gun will now use a bazooka to blow up his school. Why? Because he can and it's way more effective than a knife or a gun.
By your logic we should make bazookas legal because most people are responsible users.

How about we make things that are dangerious in the wrong hands and NOT needed in daily life illegal? Sure works over here in Holland.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Of course he isn't using logic, that's what happens when you don't address the cause and instead look at the effects and focus on that

i am not even sure how people can hold these conversations.

"Guns are easy to get so kids kill people"

Well, Knives are easy to get , how come there arent millions of children stabbing each other

If they fail to see logic and correct reasoning in simple discussions like this, I fear bringing up an actual debatable topic.

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

i am not even sure how people can hold these conversations.

"Guns are easy to get so kids kill people"

Well, Knives are easy to get , how come there arent millions of children stabbing each other

If they fail to see logic and correct reasoning in simple discussions like this, I fear bringing up an actual debatable topic.

I already told you. People use knives to kill eachother. Just like guns having knives doesn't mean that suddenly everyone turns into a killer. Totally idiotic logic.
Stabbings happen sadly enough. We can't ban knives. They are needed in daily life. Guns are not.

Stop crying about why don't millions of people stab eachother. Totally not relavant.

[Dirty F]

Fletch, should we make bazookas legal?

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

its also easy to get cigarettes, knives, gas, and alcohol not all of us smoke and drink, make bombs or stab people.

your logic is terribly flawed. terribly.

Well, if he couldn't get a gun, he wouldn't have been able to shoot anyone.

It's really simple.

He may have been able to smoke near them though. Or sup on a 40. Yes. Good point.

Heheh.

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Guns have nothing to do with it.

You know he shot people, right? With a gun?

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Guns have NOTHING to do with this.

Seems like guns have something to do with it.