High school shooting in Ohio
 

Pretty crazy - 4 students shot and suspect has been arrested.

Wonder if it will come down to this kid being bullied

It will come down to the fact that it's really fucking easy to get a gun in Americanland.

it'll come down to the kid was sociopath/psychopath but that fact will be drowned out by a bunch bullying/violent media/porn or whatever nonsense, as usual. hth

fox news has already said 100x " We will find out how he got the weapon" they have already pretty much blamed the parents without saying it

its also easy to get cigarettes, knives, gas, and alcohol not all of us smoke and drink, make bombs or stab people.

your logic is terribly flawed. terribly.

Blame Heavy Metal, as always

I thought I had it bad waking up sick to my stomach and with a headache. Damn crazy kid.

Sounds like someone got de-friended on facebook.

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wow fox news is letting students say the names of people who they think did it

Kids are not allowed to kill other innocent kids until they join the military. What were these dumb asses thinking?

Who can we blame this time.... Heavy metal? Drugs? Firearms? Ron Paul?

the local news here is has 'bleeped' out a live report from a student saying who it was who was in the room when this happened.....this is a rather upscale suburb/school too where this occured on the other side of town

Who had easy access to a gun.

Unless the US has more sociopath/psychopath children than anywhere else.

Combination really, fucked up kids, country that has lax gun laws because they need to defend themselves against thugs and a psychology that makes kids think shooting someone is cool.

What was the age of the kid who shot a fellow student a couple of weeks ago. 7 or something?

JC it's not world wide. Dumb post as usual. You should blame it on aliens. :1orglaugh

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LOL.... Marilyn Manson and Judas Priest have victims so far

guns are illegal as hell here and I can get one anywhere. a LOT easier than in the US.

Probably on ritalin since the age of 5 and has consumed nothing but fast food and aspartame his whole life.

Meanwhile around the world...

Around 18,000 children die every day because of hunger and malnutrition, yet it doesn't even make a blurb on the news ticker. (source)

:Oh crap

In high school, I dressed in black every day (black jeans, black metal band t-shirt, my dad's old black combat boots from 'Nam). I had long hair down to the middle of my back. I loved metal (including "satanic bands" like Deicide) and horror movies. I always read books on the occult, and could almost always be seen carrying one of LaVey's books on Satanism. At 5' 5" and barely 120 lbs., everyone still moved out of my way when I walked down the halls, because of their believe that I was pure evil. I was anti-social, and only had a couple of people that I talked to.

But, at the same time that everyone thought I was sacrificing animals to a goat lord, I was also in Advanced Placement courses and getting a proper education. Those who actually talked to me found that I was always respectful and courteous, and always used my manners. By society's ideas, I should have been on a mass murdering rampage. But my parents raised me right. :2 cents:

same here. only thing i ever got in trouble for in highschool was wearing a Suicidal tendencies shirt. Labeled a misfit, outcast, etc,... got jumped by the prep boys/jocks and fought off 4 etc,... been through the same man.

And yes, meanwhile I was excelling in grades, passed their expectations and was one of the best students despite my metal fandom.

fuck the majority. ive seen of those same prep/jocks facebooks since, they are all working shit jobs and overweight.

What part of "shooting" did you miss?

Yes society including parents are to blame as well.

Still ease of access to guns means more kids can get killed than kids with knives can. If they could only get a knife, they would kill less people. I'm sure you'll dispute this obvious fact, still won't make your objections worth reading. So welcome to my ignore list.

Why do Americans always go defensive when someone suggests America has a gun problem ??

Don't the stats back up the claim ?

the problem with this logic is that the kids in america have way easier and more access to knives, so by your logic, why arent there MORE STABBINGS? Every household in america has knives, and plenty of them, yet not everyone has guns. Logic?

The root of the issue with people wanting to arm themselves has nothing to do with protecting ourselves from thugs. Tried to buy a gun here in the US recently? Didn't think so. Do you really believe the shit you typically spew?

I also don't know many young people who think that killing someone is cool. When was the last time you were in the States hanging out my young people Paul?

Because most people don't see it an issue and 99.999% of the time it has no effect on their lives.

So it's kinda fucked to see people know really don't know what they're talking about talking like their another expert, because they read something on the internet once or twice.

Senior year my gym teacher sent me to the principal's office because my White Zombie shirt said "I went to Hell and all I got was this crappy t-shirt" on the back. And, I had to move my hair for him to read it. They made me turn my shirt inside out, and called my mom at work. She asked the principal, "Don't you have something better to do?"

I could understand if it said "shitty t-shirt," but Hell is a place, and was used in that sense. The remainder of the year, I never wore the shirt again, but saw some other kid who didn't typically dress like a metalhead wear the same shirt over and over. He never got in trouble. I got singled out because of the stereotypes. Sadly, it's just the way it will always be, whether it's something minor like my t-shirt, or blaming the movies/music for the violence a disturbed individual commits.

Americans don't have a gun problem, they have a people problem. Guns themselves don't hurt anyone. It's the idiots who pick them up who cause all the problems.

And for the sake of debate, you could also blame the bullets.

i blame the tubes

I have guns. I grew up in a house with guns. I also drink and own a car. I grew up in a household with both cars and liquor. No one in our family ever shot anyone or drove drunk. Maybe the problem is idiots and idiots do stupid things. Or is that to simple an explanation?

Of course. No one wants to face reality and get to the root of WHY this kid shot four students and what honestly drove him to that point. And the answer isn't music. It's too easy to have a scape goat and wrap it up in politics so they can push some new agenda through.

they wanted to call my mom and said I need help if I am suicidal. I was like it doesnt even say "tendencies" i told them the shirt said suicidal "frequencies" LOL they couldnt then and they still cannot read metal band names.

it was the famous Lights, Camera, Revolution, Suicidal T-shirt - cant believe how people overreact to things like shirts. Today theyd probably arrest me or something... if that happened now. I graduated in 1994 so its been awhile, they installedmetal detectors after i graduated.

we have such a healthy society. giving, caring loving people. we hug the world with joy and love. why would our children be going insane ? didn't they watch the Oscars ? don't they know the TSA and new world homeland is watching out for them when they get fenagled at the airport ? is it the medication ? video games, what about all that free porn ? did Jesus die ? maybe they watch too much CNN. war is peace. hate is love

Yet more people die of gun violence than most countries in the world.
If guns weren't so easy to get than this fact would not exist.

I feel a fatfoo moment is needed here. People are talking about guns because it was a ... shooting.

Not, that's correct. And the fact is that those idiots can easily get a gun in America. If that wouldn't be easy then there would be less gun accidents.

No, you dumb sack of shit. They got killed by guns. Not cars, not knives, not swimmingpools but guns.

Have we gotten to the need for Jesus in our lives more yet?

Other than that they were used to kill someone ofcourse. Small detail. Easy to overlook.

So then I shouldn't have the freedom to be a gun owner because there might be an idiot out there that will abuse guns?

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Am i saying that?
Go ahead. I don't give a shit how many guns Americans own.

Ah the dumb ass clown argument. You will always find this retard argument in the gun threads. It usually points out the most stupid.

right but you guys arent using your own logic properly.

Knives are easy to get, by your logic, there would be BILLIONS of child stabbings every day since EVERY house has knives. IM a gun owner, got my first gun at 10. I havent killed anyone. I got LOTS of knives, never stabbed anyone either.

logic.

Stabbings happen. In my country, in your country. Impossible to prevent. Knives are needed in every day life. We can not ban knives.

Guns however are not needed in daily life. (cept for police etc). Adding guns in the mix will only result in people using guns to kill even more (and more easy).

It really is that simple.

Guess what, if you make bazookas legal most people will be responsible bazooka owners but there will be this kid who instead of using a knife, and then a gun will now use a bazooka to blow up his school. Why? Because he can and it's way more effective than a knife or a gun.
By your logic we should make bazookas legal because most people are responsible users.

How about we make things that are dangerious in the wrong hands and NOT needed in daily life illegal? Sure works over here in Holland.

i am not even sure how people can hold these conversations.

"Guns are easy to get so kids kill people"

Well, Knives are easy to get , how come there arent millions of children stabbing each other

If they fail to see logic and correct reasoning in simple discussions like this, I fear bringing up an actual debatable topic.

I already told you. People use knives to kill eachother. Just like guns having knives doesn't mean that suddenly everyone turns into a killer. Totally idiotic logic.
Stabbings happen sadly enough. We can't ban knives. They are needed in daily life. Guns are not.

Stop crying about why don't millions of people stab eachother. Totally not relavant.

Fletch, should we make bazookas legal?

Well, if he couldn't get a gun, he wouldn't have been able to shoot anyone.

It's really simple.

He may have been able to smoke near them though. Or sup on a 40. Yes. Good point.

Heheh.

You know he shot people, right? With a gun?

Seems like guns have something to do with it.