raymor

There are projects standardizing the stuff that benefits from being the same. Different people have different needs, though, so they have choices. The cool thing is that means Linux can never have a debacle like Vista, instead it can only get a better. One distro can try something and if it sucks no other distro us affected, beijing maybe gaining new users. If the new idea works well, the other distros start including it. So each distro is a little laboratory for new ideas and only the stuff that works well gets picked up by the others.

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Wine let's you being Windows' problems to Linux. It's normally not the optimal path. Normally you are better off finding out which Linux software does the job best. Wine is useful for one-off proprietary software like online poker where you HAVE to use one vendor's software. Plan on using it no more than once every five years for best results. Rather, learn the Linux tools which are almost always free and open, and are often better in some ways. You can easily try several software choices to see what works best for you because there's no cost, no registration, no artificial limits.

anexsia

Every individual is going to have different experiences.

I love linux and right now dual boot Arch Linux and Windows 7 and have another computer with Debian installed.

When it comes to Windows, the last problem or question I remember having was way back during the Windows 98 days, from Windows XP and up I can't think of a single issue that I've ever had except for a blue screen and that was because I wasn't giving my memory enough voltage to power it's overclock. Every time I build a new computer and put a fresh install of Windows on everything goes super smooth and I never have any problems and can't recall having a virus in years.

With that said...if I didn't game as much as I do I would gladly replace Windows with linux and that's because I love to tinker with different distros and have the option to completely customize my system.

V_RocKs

Unfortunately the speed losses of not having Photoshop and it's familiar keyboard shortcuts necessitates the need for Windows...

V_RocKs

And if switching... or even if not...

I highly suggest http://www.lastpass.com

It remembers your passwords for you. Even does pincode+user+pass types of logins... It is only $12 or something like that for the premium which adds it to your phone. But free is 100% usable too.


(BTW, there is nothing like virtually updating your virtualbox Windows installation...)

Coup

I agree pretty much, but if ya dont wanna give up on using things like photoshop, dreamweaver, whatever you don't really absolutely have to. my post was directed at folks who wanna have it like dat dawg

h00ligan

not sure if stupid or a troll..

DamianJ

Gary

a) This is about linux desktop, which you've never installed and wouldn't know what a command line was if I drew you a picture of one

b) You didn't install or manage the *nix on your server. You paid someone else to

You've got nothing of any worth to contribute to this.

Cam94

I installed Mint three days ago and it runs a lot faster than ubuntu. I wish I would have known about Mint years ago. Have you found any similar OS's to Mint that you like better than Mint?

Cam94

Im sure theres trojans for linux, I've never had one in the two years of running linux. Windows on the other hard, can get a virus just from looking at it wrong.

Coup

Do you two faggots have to shit up every god damn thread with your tired ass bullshit?

MaDalton

i hardly ever deal with Windows problems. And i have no time or interest in investing new time in problems i dont have now.

i tried Linux, wasnt for me.

i worked with Mac OS 7,8 and 9 - and Mac OS X - wasnt for me.

i am happy - i run Windows 2011 SBS with about 10 Windows 7 clients and it works. i do my updates and backups, other than that i have no issues.

also i have a Microsoft Action Pack membership, so i get all their latest stuff with enough license numbers for like $300 a year

i wont try anything else unless Windows becomes completely unusable

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CS-Jay

If you can, burn the dvd iso to dvd. Use the full install. Don't bother with the CD one. If you can burn a dvd, just right click the iso image on windows and burn to dvd. I'm pretty sure that how I do it.

Then make sure your laptop is bootable from cd. Email me if you have questions.

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CS-Jay

I had used unbuntu on and off. With the last update I was turned off. Then I found Mint and I really like it. I haven't found anything else I like so far.

I think they are called rootkits. But there are far less exploits to Linux desktops than Windows.

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Linux is great until you try to do a/v/media stuff. Then its Mac.

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vdbucks

I run windows 7 as my main currently. I do absolutely everything except gaming and photoshop in a linux virtual machine (running Linux Mint Debian)

I could live without photoshop if I had to but my machine is plenty powerful enough to run my VM, and not having to reboot when i want to take a break and do some gaming is nice.. so while I haven't dropped windows completely, 95% of my time is spent in my linux VM.

No problem at all dropping win and going with lin. Sooner or later microcrap is going to lose it's dominating hold on game developers and once that happens, opengl will be used more and more... which means native games being run in linux... and when that happens, it's all over for windows imho.

Emil

http://zorin-os.com/ - Linux made to look as much as Windows as possible.

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DamianJ

Feel free to put me on ignore and 'rm -rf'* me, rather than further fuck up the thread with your tired ass bullshit. Homes.





*A joke Gary, the *nix expert, won't get

BladeZ

Windows for games and photoshop,ubuntu for surfing and mail,why not use both

CS-Jay

I think the virtual machine is a awesome idea. I might just start with that. Just to get used it everything.

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d-null

the world would be better off if more pc's were running linux, and it is a joke that Microsoft makes money off of the average consumer who only uses their pc to listen to music and go on facebook, linux could easily do all that for free

us more technically competent people should be leading the way toward a future with more linux and less micro$oft

MaDalton

there's a reason why the PC market is shrinking and tablets are growing - most people dont need more than that

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CS-Jay

Imagine if you could get your parents, aunts, uncles or anyone a bit older on a linux distro. You wouldn't have to spend every visit to their house uninstalling spyware, or installing anti-virus. If all they need it for is email and music, so simple.

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tony286

Thx for this. i put it on my netbook. I really like it.

ArsewithClass

You said I didn't know what linux was... that's incorrect isn't it!? Whether I have installed on a desktop or not is irrelevant...

When are you going to post something worthy of the thread? cock




Coup... don't bring me into his bullshit

He's the frigging faggot always causing shit. When have you ever seen me give a negative comment to anyone on this board

Question for you Coup... Notice, the only posts on this thread from the weasel, are "jokes" towards me... some kind of frigging loony toon. I am right in thinking this is a forum for everyone to post & enjoy themselves on, aren't I?

So I'm right in thinking, this thread would have had no twattish comments, if it wasn't for faggot face Damian.

After 3 or 4 yrs of constant harassment, isn't it time he had his arse banned from this place if he annoys you too?

BSleazy

I ended up getting it installed from a flash drive.

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bns666

linux mint is ok, i have it on one older pc and works much better than windows.

however using win7 for most of the work.

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vdbucks

It's really the best way to go if your system is powerful enough to handle it and you're either unsure about leaving windows completely, want to get a good feel for linux before making the change, or if you're bound to windows programs.

I personally use virtualbox at the moment, but vmware is pretty good as well albeit a high price tag.

There is one caveat to running a setup like this though, graphics support is quite limited, so it's not the best solution if you want to have a ton of eye candy, or play games and whatnot.

anexsia

I used to love running Virtualbox. I used to have an Intel Xeon X3210 and running linux in Virtualbox was perfect...everything was fast and almost seamless and then I recently got an Intel i5 2500k and realized how much having the Xeon Virtualization technology helps because everything feels sluggish in Virtual box now

vdbucks

Yeah, you definitely need a good system to run a desktop based virtual machine.

I'm currently running on an Asus Z8NA-D6C with 2x Intel Xeon e5620's and naturally vbox runs 100x more smoothly on this machine than on my amd gaming desktop ><

This isn't to say you can't or shouldn't run a vm on a 'standard' desktop pc.. because it's still a great way to get used to working strictly in a linux environment; as opposed to trying to learn the ropes from a live cd or live usb.

vdbucks

Not going to lie.. I'm running this now in a vm and am pretty impressed.

I normally stick with Linux Mint Debian - I mean, what's not to love about the Mint menu running on top of the best linux distro ever made? - but I'm going to give this a try for a while.

I paid the 10 euro for the ultimate version, and need to make a bunch of system tweaks before I can give a solid opinion on performance; but so far it's pretty nice.

Probably something I'd definitely recommend to novice users...

And I like the fact that it still maintains the freedom of linux - free as in beer - yes, they have 'premium' versions but they're so low cost it doesn't matter... and from the looks of it, those versions are no different than the 'free' version aside from the additional software that comes pre-installed.

raymor

I've been doing a lot of that. For people who aren't sure which version of Windows they have that's screwed up, they don't know the difference been being upgraded to Win7 and being upgraded to Mint. Firefox still works the same. Mainly they just notice it's faster, partly because they know longer have heavy anti-virus dlowing the net down. With distros like Mint or the way I set up CentOS for them, it just works and they are happy. I just have to show them where OpenOffice is.

Geeks who like to really understand and have full control like Linux, too. They ones who don't so much are the Windows experts who know all of the shortcut keys, but don't want to learn something new. Them and the gamers.

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DamianJ

No. You don't have a clue what it is.

Explain in your own words what Linux is Gary.

I will give you a fiver if you manage it.

anexsia

Yeah you're right...I was just amazed because my i5 2500k smokes my old xeon in pretty much every task...but when it comes to virtualbox it sucks .

BSleazy

Ran the updates and everything failed. Mouse moves in slow motion, wireless stopped working, and more...

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h00ligan

This thread is great. It really lets the GFY idiots stand out

raymor

Make sure virtualization is enabled in the BIOS. The hardware support for virtualization makes a big difference.

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