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  • raymor
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    • Oct 2002
    • 3745

    #51
    Originally posted by tony286
    I always wondered instead of 45 different version of linux . Why dont they unite and create one killer one?

    There are projects standardizing the stuff that benefits from being the same. Different people have different needs, though, so they have choices. The cool thing is that means Linux can never have a debacle like Vista, instead it can only get a better. One distro can try something and if it sucks no other distro us affected, beijing maybe gaining new users. If the new idea works well, the other distros start including it. So each distro is a little laboratory for new ideas and only the stuff that works well gets picked up by the others.
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    • raymor
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      • Oct 2002
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      #52
      Originally posted by Coup
      wine is your friend
      http://www.winehq.org/


      gimp is terrible.
      Wine let's you being Windows' problems to Linux. It's normally not the optimal path. Normally you are better off finding out which Linux software does the job best. Wine is useful for one-off proprietary software like online poker where you HAVE to use one vendor's software. Plan on using it no more than once every five years for best results. Rather, learn the Linux tools which are almost always free and open, and are often better in some ways. You can easily try several software choices to see what works best for you because there's no cost, no registration, no artificial limits.
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      • anexsia
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        • May 2010
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        #53
        Originally posted by raymor
        Let's guess that fifteen years ago or whenever you spent 40 hours learning to use Windows. Since then, you've spent 30 hours per year dealing with new problems or questions. So maybe 490 hours over the last fifteen years, and you can spend another 150 goes over the next five years.

        Compare spending 20 hours to learn a better system (Linux) which will have FAR fewer problems once you know it, so maybe 50 hours over tne next five years.

        Do you invest for the long term, or focus on this week, or the crap you're accustomed to?
        Every individual is going to have different experiences.

        I love linux and right now dual boot Arch Linux and Windows 7 and have another computer with Debian installed.

        When it comes to Windows, the last problem or question I remember having was way back during the Windows 98 days, from Windows XP and up I can't think of a single issue that I've ever had except for a blue screen and that was because I wasn't giving my memory enough voltage to power it's overclock. Every time I build a new computer and put a fresh install of Windows on everything goes super smooth and I never have any problems and can't recall having a virus in years.

        With that said...if I didn't game as much as I do I would gladly replace Windows with linux and that's because I love to tinker with different distros and have the option to completely customize my system.

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        • V_RocKs
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          • Nov 2003
          • 32448

          #54
          Unfortunately the speed losses of not having Photoshop and it's familiar keyboard shortcuts necessitates the need for Windows...

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          • V_RocKs
            Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
            • Nov 2003
            • 32448

            #55
            And if switching... or even if not...

            I highly suggest http://www.lastpass.com

            It remembers your passwords for you. Even does pincode+user+pass types of logins... It is only $12 or something like that for the premium which adds it to your phone. But free is 100% usable too.


            (BTW, there is nothing like virtually updating your virtualbox Windows installation...)

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            • Coup
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              • Apr 2010
              • 9931

              #56
              Originally posted by raymor
              Wine let's you being Windows' problems to Linux. It's normally not the optimal path. Normally you are better off finding out which Linux software does the job best. Wine is useful for one-off proprietary software like online poker where you HAVE to use one vendor's software. Plan on using it no more than once every five years for best results. Rather, learn the Linux tools which are almost always free and open, and are often better in some ways. You can easily try several software choices to see what works best for you because there's no cost, no registration, no artificial limits.
              I agree pretty much, but if ya dont wanna give up on using things like photoshop, dreamweaver, whatever you don't really absolutely have to. my post was directed at folks who wanna have it like dat dawg

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              • h00ligan
                Registered User
                • Nov 2005
                • 32

                #57
                Originally posted by BCyber
                Probably not. I don't do much dvd burning. I just downloaded the no-codec cd version and I'm about to try that.
                not sure if stupid or a troll..

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                • DamianJ
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                  • Jul 2006
                  • 15808

                  #58
                  Originally posted by ArsewithClass
                  You cannot help being a little prick...

                  For a start, since running dedicated servers, I've always used Linux OS.
                  Gary

                  a) This is about linux desktop, which you've never installed and wouldn't know what a command line was if I drew you a picture of one

                  b) You didn't install or manage the *nix on your server. You paid someone else to

                  You've got nothing of any worth to contribute to this.

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                  • Cam94
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 250

                    #59
                    Originally posted by CS-Jay
                    After using Ubuntu and Mint, I'm a huge mint fan. That is the same reasons I want to switch. And to dev as well. I can always reboot for photoshop.
                    I installed Mint three days ago and it runs a lot faster than ubuntu. I wish I would have known about Mint years ago. Have you found any similar OS's to Mint that you like better than Mint?

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                    • Cam94
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                      • Jul 2004
                      • 250

                      #60
                      Originally posted by WarChild
                      You actually think there's never been a trojan that infects Linux?
                      Im sure theres trojans for linux, I've never had one in the two years of running linux. Windows on the other hard, can get a virus just from looking at it wrong.

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                      • Coup
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                        • Apr 2010
                        • 9931

                        #61
                        Originally posted by DamianJ
                        Gary

                        a) This is about linux desktop, which you've never installed and wouldn't know what a command line was if I drew you a picture of one

                        b) You didn't install or manage the *nix on your server. You paid someone else to

                        You've got nothing of any worth to contribute to this.
                        Do you two faggots have to shit up every god damn thread with your tired ass bullshit?

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                        • MaDalton
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                          • Feb 2004
                          • 39861

                          #62
                          Originally posted by raymor
                          Let's guess that fifteen years ago or whenever you spent 40 hours learning to use Windows. Since then, you've spent 30 hours per year dealing with new problems or questions. So maybe 490 hours over the last fifteen years, and you can spend another 150 goes over the next five years.

                          Compare spending 20 hours to learn a better system (Linux) which will have FAR fewer problems once you know it, so maybe 50 hours over tne next five years.

                          Do you invest for the long term, or focus on this week, or the crap you're accustomed to?
                          i hardly ever deal with Windows problems. And i have no time or interest in investing new time in problems i dont have now.

                          i tried Linux, wasnt for me.

                          i worked with Mac OS 7,8 and 9 - and Mac OS X - wasnt for me.

                          i am happy - i run Windows 2011 SBS with about 10 Windows 7 clients and it works. i do my updates and backups, other than that i have no issues.

                          also i have a Microsoft Action Pack membership, so i get all their latest stuff with enough license numbers for like $300 a year

                          i wont try anything else unless Windows becomes completely unusable
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                          • CS-Jay
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                            • Oct 2003
                            • 1794

                            #63
                            Originally posted by BCyber
                            WTF, it says I'm 58.6MB short on the cd. Anything I can delete to fit what's needed?
                            If you can, burn the dvd iso to dvd. Use the full install. Don't bother with the CD one. If you can burn a dvd, just right click the iso image on windows and burn to dvd. I'm pretty sure that how I do it.

                            Then make sure your laptop is bootable from cd. Email me if you have questions.
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                            • CS-Jay
                              Confirmed User
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 1794

                              #64
                              Originally posted by Cam94
                              I installed Mint three days ago and it runs a lot faster than ubuntu. I wish I would have known about Mint years ago. Have you found any similar OS's to Mint that you like better than Mint?
                              I had used unbuntu on and off. With the last update I was turned off. Then I found Mint and I really like it. I haven't found anything else I like so far.

                              Originally posted by Cam94
                              Im sure theres trojans for linux, I've never had one in the two years of running linux. Windows on the other hard, can get a virus just from looking at it wrong.
                              I think they are called rootkits. But there are far less exploits to Linux desktops than Windows.
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                              • react
                                Confirmed User
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 673

                                #65
                                Linux is great until you try to do a/v/media stuff. Then its Mac.
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                                • vdbucks
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                                  • Jul 2010
                                  • 2773

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by CS-Jay
                                  I'm thinking about going all Linux Mint, and getting rid of the windows. They have everything I need, chrome/firefox, thunderbird, statsremote, netbeans, office, gimp(not the best) and video editors. I think I could realistically do this.

                                  Hell there is even a program to control two pcs with one mouse keyboard!

                                  Anyone have any advice on making the convert?
                                  I run windows 7 as my main currently. I do absolutely everything except gaming and photoshop in a linux virtual machine (running Linux Mint Debian)

                                  I could live without photoshop if I had to but my machine is plenty powerful enough to run my VM, and not having to reboot when i want to take a break and do some gaming is nice.. so while I haven't dropped windows completely, 95% of my time is spent in my linux VM.

                                  No problem at all dropping win and going with lin. Sooner or later microcrap is going to lose it's dominating hold on game developers and once that happens, opengl will be used more and more... which means native games being run in linux... and when that happens, it's all over for windows imho.

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                                  • Emil
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                                    • Feb 2007
                                    • 5655

                                    #67
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                                    • DamianJ
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Jul 2006
                                      • 15808

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by Coup
                                      Do you two faggots have to shit up every god damn thread with your tired ass bullshit?
                                      Feel free to put me on ignore and 'rm -rf'* me, rather than further fuck up the thread with your tired ass bullshit. Homes.





                                      *A joke Gary, the *nix expert, won't get
                                      Last edited by DamianJ; 02-27-2012, 10:06 AM.

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                                      • BladeZ
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Mar 2004
                                        • 272

                                        #69
                                        Windows for games and photoshop,ubuntu for surfing and mail,why not use both

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                                        • CS-Jay
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Oct 2003
                                          • 1794

                                          #70
                                          I think the virtual machine is a awesome idea. I might just start with that. Just to get used it everything.
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                                          • d-null
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                                            • Apr 2007
                                            • 13724

                                            #71
                                            the world would be better off if more pc's were running linux, and it is a joke that Microsoft makes money off of the average consumer who only uses their pc to listen to music and go on facebook, linux could easily do all that for free

                                            us more technically competent people should be leading the way toward a future with more linux and less micro$oft

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                                            • MaDalton
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                                              • Feb 2004
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                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by d-null
                                              the world would be better off if more pc's were running linux, and it is a joke that Microsoft makes money off of the average consumer who only uses their pc to listen to music and go on facebook, linux could easily do all that for free

                                              us more technically competent people should be leading the way toward a future with more linux and less micro$oft
                                              there's a reason why the PC market is shrinking and tablets are growing - most people dont need more than that
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                                              • CS-Jay
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                                                • Oct 2003
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                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by d-null
                                                the world would be better off if more pc's were running linux, and it is a joke that Microsoft makes money off of the average consumer who only uses their pc to listen to music and go on facebook, linux could easily do all that for free

                                                us more technically competent people should be leading the way toward a future with more linux and less micro$oft
                                                Imagine if you could get your parents, aunts, uncles or anyone a bit older on a linux distro. You wouldn't have to spend every visit to their house uninstalling spyware, or installing anti-virus. If all they need it for is email and music, so simple.
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                                                • tony286
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                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                  • 57021

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by Emil
                                                  http://zorin-os.com/ - Linux made to look as much as Windows as possible.
                                                  Thx for this. i put it on my netbook. I really like it.

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                                                  • ArsewithClass
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • Mar 2007
                                                    • 7957

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                    Gary

                                                    This is about linux desktop, which you've never installed and wouldn't know what a command line was if I drew you a picture of one

                                                    You've got nothing of any worth to contribute to this.
                                                    You said I didn't know what linux was... that's incorrect isn't it!? Whether I have installed on a desktop or not is irrelevant...

                                                    When are you going to post something worthy of the thread? cock

                                                    Originally posted by Coup
                                                    Do you two faggots have to shit up every god damn thread with your tired ass bullshit?
                                                    Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                    Feel free to put me on ignore and 'rm -rf'* me, rather than further fuck up the thread with your tired ass bullshit. Homes.

                                                    *A joke Gary, the *nix expert, won't get



                                                    Coup... don't bring me into his bullshit

                                                    He's the frigging faggot always causing shit. When have you ever seen me give a negative comment to anyone on this board

                                                    Question for you Coup... Notice, the only posts on this thread from the weasel, are "jokes" towards me... some kind of frigging loony toon. I am right in thinking this is a forum for everyone to post & enjoy themselves on, aren't I?

                                                    So I'm right in thinking, this thread would have had no twattish comments, if it wasn't for faggot face Damian.

                                                    After 3 or 4 yrs of constant harassment, isn't it time he had his arse banned from this place if he annoys you too?

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                                                    • BSleazy
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                      • 6721

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by CS-Jay
                                                      If you can, burn the dvd iso to dvd. Use the full install. Don't bother with the CD one. If you can burn a dvd, just right click the iso image on windows and burn to dvd. I'm pretty sure that how I do it.

                                                      Then make sure your laptop is bootable from cd. Email me if you have questions.
                                                      I ended up getting it installed from a flash drive.
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                                                      • bns666
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                                                        • Mar 2005
                                                        • 11549

                                                        #77
                                                        linux mint is ok, i have it on one older pc and works much better than windows.

                                                        however using win7 for most of the work.
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                                                        • vdbucks
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                                                          • Jul 2010
                                                          • 2773

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by CS-Jay
                                                          I think the virtual machine is a awesome idea. I might just start with that. Just to get used it everything.
                                                          It's really the best way to go if your system is powerful enough to handle it and you're either unsure about leaving windows completely, want to get a good feel for linux before making the change, or if you're bound to windows programs.

                                                          I personally use virtualbox at the moment, but vmware is pretty good as well albeit a high price tag.

                                                          There is one caveat to running a setup like this though, graphics support is quite limited, so it's not the best solution if you want to have a ton of eye candy, or play games and whatnot.

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                                                          • anexsia
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                                                            • May 2010
                                                            • 5735

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by vdbucks
                                                            It's really the best way to go if your system is powerful enough to handle it and you're either unsure about leaving windows completely, want to get a good feel for linux before making the change, or if you're bound to windows programs.

                                                            I personally use virtualbox at the moment, but vmware is pretty good as well albeit a high price tag.

                                                            There is one caveat to running a setup like this though, graphics support is quite limited, so it's not the best solution if you want to have a ton of eye candy, or play games and whatnot.
                                                            I used to love running Virtualbox. I used to have an Intel Xeon X3210 and running linux in Virtualbox was perfect...everything was fast and almost seamless and then I recently got an Intel i5 2500k and realized how much having the Xeon Virtualization technology helps because everything feels sluggish in Virtual box now

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                                                            • vdbucks
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                                                              • Jul 2010
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                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by anexsia
                                                              I used to love running Virtualbox. I used to have an Intel Xeon X3210 and running linux in Virtualbox was perfect...everything was fast and almost seamless and then I recently got an Intel i5 2500k and realized how much having the Xeon Virtualization technology helps because everything feels sluggish in Virtual box now
                                                              Yeah, you definitely need a good system to run a desktop based virtual machine.

                                                              I'm currently running on an Asus Z8NA-D6C with 2x Intel Xeon e5620's and naturally vbox runs 100x more smoothly on this machine than on my amd gaming desktop ><

                                                              This isn't to say you can't or shouldn't run a vm on a 'standard' desktop pc.. because it's still a great way to get used to working strictly in a linux environment; as opposed to trying to learn the ropes from a live cd or live usb.
                                                              Last edited by vdbucks; 02-27-2012, 06:23 PM.

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                                                              • vdbucks
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                                                                • Jul 2010
                                                                • 2773

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by Emil
                                                                http://zorin-os.com/ - Linux made to look as much as Windows as possible.
                                                                Not going to lie.. I'm running this now in a vm and am pretty impressed.

                                                                I normally stick with Linux Mint Debian - I mean, what's not to love about the Mint menu running on top of the best linux distro ever made? - but I'm going to give this a try for a while.

                                                                I paid the 10 euro for the ultimate version, and need to make a bunch of system tweaks before I can give a solid opinion on performance; but so far it's pretty nice.

                                                                Probably something I'd definitely recommend to novice users...

                                                                And I like the fact that it still maintains the freedom of linux - free as in beer - yes, they have 'premium' versions but they're so low cost it doesn't matter... and from the looks of it, those versions are no different than the 'free' version aside from the additional software that comes pre-installed.

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                                                                • raymor
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                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                  • 3745

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by CS-Jay
                                                                  Imagine if you could get your parents, aunts, uncles or anyone a bit older on a linux distro. You wouldn't have to spend every visit to their house uninstalling spyware, or installing anti-virus. If all they need it for is email and music, so simple.

                                                                  I've been doing a lot of that. For people who aren't sure which version of Windows they have that's screwed up, they don't know the difference been being upgraded to Win7 and being upgraded to Mint. Firefox still works the same. Mainly they just notice it's faster, partly because they know longer have heavy anti-virus dlowing the net down. With distros like Mint or the way I set up CentOS for them, it just works and they are happy. I just have to show them where OpenOffice is.

                                                                  Geeks who like to really understand and have full control like Linux, too. They ones who don't so much are the Windows experts who know all of the shortcut keys, but don't want to learn something new. Them and the gamers.
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                                                                  • DamianJ
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                                                                    • Jul 2006
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                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by ArsewithClass
                                                                    You said I didn't know what linux was... that's incorrect isn't it!?
                                                                    No. You don't have a clue what it is.

                                                                    Explain in your own words what Linux is Gary.

                                                                    I will give you a fiver if you manage it.

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                                                                    • anexsia
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • May 2010
                                                                      • 5735

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by vdbucks
                                                                      Yeah, you definitely need a good system to run a desktop based virtual machine.

                                                                      I'm currently running on an Asus Z8NA-D6C with 2x Intel Xeon e5620's and naturally vbox runs 100x more smoothly on this machine than on my amd gaming desktop ><

                                                                      This isn't to say you can't or shouldn't run a vm on a 'standard' desktop pc.. because it's still a great way to get used to working strictly in a linux environment; as opposed to trying to learn the ropes from a live cd or live usb.
                                                                      Yeah you're right...I was just amazed because my i5 2500k smokes my old xeon in pretty much every task...but when it comes to virtualbox it sucks .

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                                                                      • BSleazy
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                                                                        • Aug 2002
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                                                                        #85
                                                                        Ran the updates and everything failed. Mouse moves in slow motion, wireless stopped working, and more...
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                                                                        • h00ligan
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                                                                          • Nov 2005
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                                                                          #86
                                                                          This thread is great. It really lets the GFY idiots stand out

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                                                                          • raymor
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                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                            • 3745

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by anexsia
                                                                            Yeah you're right...I was just amazed because my i5 2500k smokes my old xeon in pretty much every task...but when it comes to virtualbox it sucks .


                                                                            Make sure virtualization is enabled in the BIOS. The hardware support for virtualization makes a big difference.
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