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PR_Phil 02-16-2012 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18763344)
Oh dear

Not a single thought or image you have is unique. Its all something you heard or seen before. Oh yea, the "elite" are just like us! HAHAHA yea thats knee slapper right there. I think you spent too much time watching the news and in public schools. Next thing you'll say is that the elite care about their slaves!


Glen only watches Dawg the bounty Hunter, and I home schooled him, so you are way off!

PR_Phil 02-16-2012 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18763360)
Ha

But do you see my point? Those who control the BASIC ASSUMPTIONS control reality

The whole Alien and Pyramid thing I am happy to talk about for days, it's exciting stuff, and I love to learn how people did shit thousands of years ago. But the whole who controls what I do, and my thoughts aren't really my own issue, I'm perfectly fine with feeling like I do what I want (I have good morals so what I want to do doesn't really get me in any trouble) and I am also fine with you thinking I do whatever the Queen wants me to, I don't think it is worth wasting any time on. I'd rather concentrate on something I / errr the Queen / care about

porno jew 02-16-2012 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18763320)
Graduated with a 4.0 from an "new" Ivy League school

School is indoctrination though, so not a measure of really anything

you are lying, but pretending it's true, get your money back.

PR_Glen 02-16-2012 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18763344)
Oh dear

Not a single thought or image you have is unique. Its all something you heard or seen before. Oh yea, the "elite" are just like us! HAHAHA yea thats knee slapper right there. I think you spent too much time watching the news and in public schools. Next thing you'll say is that the elite care about their slaves!

spent too much time in public schools? as opposed to what? not spending any time in any school? You are saying your tidbits that you have picked up from youtube and alternative websites is more fact based than what they teach?

Have some news for you.. those 'elite'? They went to schools too. They read the news like everyone else too. They read a lot of the same books as we do as well (well not you, you don't seem to read books). If that is true, how can they be any different than the rest of us? If they are so different than the rest of us what about their families? Are all politicians family members rich billionaires too? That's a lot of families.. that's a lot of people..

who said anything about them caring about us? I don't care about them really, i just don't know them so why would i? It would be odd for me to expect that from them in return.

PR_Glen 02-16-2012 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18763386)
No.

The ruling elites INVENTED the schools, the news, the books and the media that YOU read and believe. Why would you believe them? They would never incriminate themselves. This is an undeniable FACT

so hemingway didn't write the old man in the sea?

PR_Phil 02-16-2012 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18763380)
You're missing the point

You have LIMITED, CERTAIN options when it comes to anything meaningful...like the one guy said about George Calin's skit-you have hundreds of flavors of ice cream but only two political parties. Its much bigger than that. Your thoughts are NOT your own- you did NOT invent language and are not a member of the ruling elite...thus you are a slave to society and what they see fit. Its the facts

Think of a lion in a zoo...yea he is free to do what he wants...in a cage...is that freedom?

I didn't miss your point, I am pretty sure I acknowledged it, and and completely fine with your point, I just said that I really don't care, and hoped we could get back to talking about Aliens and Pyramids, cause they are far more interesting.

CyberHustler 02-16-2012 10:52 AM

"Hey cow, I'm going to put you in this here secured gated area of mine. You are FREE to eat whatever blade of grass you chose in this here secure gated area of mine."

Phoenix 02-16-2012 12:11 PM

another cool thing is they find very old caves that look like they were mined for gold...straight cuts into rock etc
everyone wants to agree that that is what was going on there, as it looks like it.

however, it was 150,000 years ago...so......we won't talk about that.

I suspect this isnt our first shot at the modern era...if rome had not fallen we would probably be on the moon by now..living there.

even the metal skyskrapers in newyork wil be just piles of red dirt in 50,000 years.

Nembrionic 02-16-2012 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18763386)
No.

The ruling elites INVENTED the schools, the news, the books and the media that YOU read and believe. Why would you believe them? They would never incriminate themselves. This is an undeniable FACT

Same goes for YOUR sources :1orglaugh

Why would you believe THEM?

Because they contradict the other sources?
Because you CHOOSE to believe them?

Nembrionic 02-16-2012 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18763397)
Hemingway is not elite


Okay, so you decide who's elite. Interesting.

Who is elite and who isn't?
Can I fire random names at you and you can tell me?

And does this include names nobody has ever heard of or just well known names?

Phoenix 02-16-2012 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Nembrionic (Post 18763632)
Okay, so you decide who's elite. Interesting.

Who is elite and who isn't?
Can I fire random names at you and you can tell me?

And does this include names nobody has ever heard of or just well known names?

he is probably referring to the banking families
rothschilds...rockefellers etc

porno jew 02-16-2012 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18763397)
Hemingway is not elite

you can't even understand very simple questions.

uno 02-16-2012 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18763120)
Its fairly obvious that they had amazing technology back in ancient times. You have to be not too bright to see this with the pyramids and everything else that is there- not to mention what we don't know

Of course the truth is surpressed

If they had some amazing technology, why did they only build pyramids and not a scyscraper? Pyramids are the simplest possible design if you wanted to build up.

porno jew 02-16-2012 12:52 PM


uno 02-16-2012 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18763210)
You are NOT a member of the elite, therefore you do not know anything.

The biggest fool is he who thinks he is a wise man :thumbsup

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Nembrionic 02-16-2012 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 18763635)
he is probably referring to the banking families
rothschilds...rockefellers etc

Objection your honor: speculation

And again: who makes that list. Who is deemed elite and who isn't?
Neither you or he answered my question as to who is deemed elite and by whom.

pimpmaster9000 02-16-2012 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Overload (Post 18761550)
geez ... the last three hows are so fucking easy ... they used DOLORIT (a stone even harder than granite)

for the first ... enuff manpower and a lil brain can move a mountain :2 cents:

they actually drilled the holes by hand and then inserted some local wood in the holes and then they poured water over the wood in the holes, the wood would become saturated with the water and the pressure would split the rock...they told us this at the old stone quarry in Asuan in Egypt....as for transport it was done by the river nile...they would roll the huge stones over logs, some logs got crushed to powder because of the immense weight of the granite stones, then they were floated up the nile....

as for how they built the pyramids they would build the 1st floor of rocks and then cover the whole thing with sand and then build another floor...when they reached the top of the pyramid they had one giant motherfucker of a sand pile they just took away and the pyramid would reveal itself from underneath....

as for cutting the rock with laser like precision without any tools they used my penis :) ok they have no idea how it was done..........

xholly 02-16-2012 07:47 PM

this guy for real?

Jakez 02-16-2012 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by xholly (Post 18764448)
this guy for real?

lol

Person A believes our thinking is controlled and/or limited by "the elite".
Person B believes we are free to think of anything we want.

Which persons thinking is really limited? :1orglaugh

Jakez 02-16-2012 09:56 PM

Back to the aliens and planets discussion.. what about the amount of time it takes light to reach Earth? If we are looking at planets and galaxies that are thousands of lightyears away, doesn't that mean what we see today is something that happened thousands of years ago? We don't really know the current state of these places. Not only would they be different before we even attempted to reach them, but by the time we did reach them they would be even that much more different.

uno 02-16-2012 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by xholly (Post 18764448)
this guy for real?

I'm starting to question that myself. This guy is almost too ignorant, brainless and proud of that to be real.

Nembrionic 02-17-2012 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by uno (Post 18764740)
I'm starting to question that myself. This guy is almost too ignorant, brainless and proud of that to be real.

Yeah...it's starting to smell an awfull lot of troll in here.

If he's not a troll, I pity the fool more than BA pities Murdoch.

Paul Markham 02-17-2012 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18762050)
Only an ignorant idiot would think humans are alone in the universe. Its amazing what propaganda/mind control can do...

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Originally Posted by asdasd (Post 18761656)
I bet you think we live at the center of the universe as I do and everything exponentially outwards is faster, older, and more advanced. Look at the amount of diversity,
it is very obvious.

Yes there is life in the Universe. Odds are many types of life. For life forms to evolved along the same lines as humans and animals inhabiting Earth would need a repeat of the exact same events, chemicals, atoms, etc. The odds on that suddenly make it a far more less likely occurrence.

Atmosphere, gravity, evolution, food, land, sea, etc. on Earth may be unique to the Earth, scientists accept this. So there's a problem when an alien life form lands on Earth.

They also accept there's a problem flying life forms around our Solar system, let alone our Galaxy. Zero gravity isn't something we could cope with for long and if we did, when we landed on another planet, we would have to cope with the gravity there. Things like Space suits can't protect against gravity. Maybe a space traveler will be bouncing around in a lower gravity, or squashed lik a bug against a wind shield with a too high gravity.

Then there's the problem of getting a life form from A-B. Stop thinking in terms of getting a man on the moon and start thinking of something 100,000 times greater. Food, air, fuel, equipment, gravity, etc.

These rules not only apply to us, they apply to every living creature in the Universe. They will have evolved over millions of years for life on their planet, not for space travel or living on another planet.

Is it possible? Yes. But the odds are extreme in such numbers to make it 0.0001% possible with other life forms.

The odds are if we were ever visited by a craft from another galaxy it would be 100% machine. Like what we are doing with Mars. For that the odds plummet to something probable.

I watch to much mid day TV. :1orglaugh

Paul Markham 02-17-2012 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18763120)
Its fairly obvious that they had amazing technology back in ancient times. You have to be not too bright to see this with the pyramids and everything else that is there- not to mention what we don't know

Of course the truth is surpressed

Well the truth hasn't been suppressed. They have dug up the bones and can see there were 1,000s of workers constructing the pyramids. During certain times of the year when they weren't needed on the farms. The skeletons show evidence of extreme labor.

So if these "Aliens" did it. Why did they need humans to tug the stones up the ramps?

This is repeated in all the structures you point at as evidence. The S. American structures, Stone Henge and others. There's huge evidence of the people living around these structures during the building of them. The early pyramids and the last ones, span a long period.

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There are 138 pyramids discovered in Egypt as of 2008.[1][2] Most were built as tombs for the country's Pharaohs and their consorts during the Old and Middle Kingdom periods.[3][4][5]

The earliest known Egyptian pyramids are found at Saqqara, northwest of Memphis. The earliest among these is the Pyramid of Djoser (constructed 2630 BCE?2611 BCE) which was built during the third dynasty. This pyramid and its surrounding complex were designed by the architect Imhotep, and are generally considered to be the world's oldest monumental structures constructed of dressed masonry.[6]

The estimate of the number of workers it took to build the pyramids have a wide range from a few thousand, twenty thousand, and up to 100,000.

The most famous Egyptian pyramids are those found at Giza, on the outskirts of Cairo. Several of the Giza pyramids are counted among the largest structures ever built.[7]

The Pyramid of Khufu at Giza is the largest Egyptian pyramid. It is the only one of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World still in existence.
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Long after the end of Egypt's own pyramid-building period, a burst of pyramid-building occurred in what is present-day Sudan, after much of Egypt came under the rule of the Kings of Napata. While Napatan rule was brief and ceased in 661 BC, the Egyptian influence made an indelible impression, and during the later Sudanese Kingdom of Meroe (approximately in the period between 300 BC?300 AD) this flowered into a full-blown pyramid-building revival, which saw more than two hundred indigenous, but Egyptian-inspired royal pyramid-tombs constructed in the vicinity of the kingdom's capital cities.
So the aliens hung around for 2,000 years, visited all those places you claim and left no evidence. :upsidedow

Amazing what you find on Wikipedia.

lagwagon 02-17-2012 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by barcodes (Post 18763337)

damn what movie was this? i need to watch it again, salt water killed them?

ah i remember, alien nation, post edited :)

Nembrionic 02-17-2012 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18763752)
You're the one speculating and believing what authority figures tell you

Authority figure: Aliens do not exist -> You: Aliens do not exist

And you claim you're not doing the exact same thing? :1orglaugh

Fuck you must be fucking stupid if you're not a troll.

czarina 02-17-2012 08:11 AM

I firmly believe that there was an ancient civilization here on Earth that made all those monuments and pyramids. Be it an alien race or ancient humans, I wouldn't know.

xholly 02-17-2012 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by czarina (Post 18765347)
I firmly believe that there was an ancient civilization here on Earth that made all those monuments and pyramids. Be it an alien race or ancient humans, I wouldn't know.

We know who built the Great Pyramid: the pharaoh Khufu, who ruled Egypt about 2547-2524 B.C. And we know who supervised its construction: Khufu's brother, Hemienu. The pharaoh's right-hand man, Hemienu was "overseer of all construction projects of the king" and his tomb is one of the largest in a cemetery adjacent to the pyramid.

http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/imhotep.htm

http://www.archaeology.org/0705/etc/pyramid.html

TheSquealer 02-17-2012 08:31 AM

That guy is not trolling. Like most people in this business, he has serious issues with authority and conformity. Like most in this business, he's most likely unemployable and probably never held any job for more than 6 months. He rationalizes his diminished and troubled emotional state as all like him do, by continually stating, supporting an affirming his belief that his dysfunction as a person is actually a great gift that sets him apart (and notably above) all others and then safely reasos that everyone else must have the problem (and notably beneath him). This is the safe emotional cacoon that he's constructed for himself, so that he may never have to address his own emotional issues and distorted world view. Reality is a scary thing for most to confront, particularly when living many years in the warm comfort of delusion.

MarkDeus 02-17-2012 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18765233)
Yes there is life in the Universe. Odds are many types of life. For life forms to evolved along the same lines as humans and animals inhabiting Earth would need a repeat of the exact same events, chemicals, atoms, etc. The odds on that suddenly make it a far more less likely occurrence.

Atmosphere, gravity, evolution, food, land, sea, etc. on Earth may be unique to the Earth, scientists accept this. So there's a problem when an alien life form lands on Earth.

They also accept there's a problem flying life forms around our Solar system, let alone our Galaxy. Zero gravity isn't something we could cope with for long and if we did, when we landed on another planet, we would have to cope with the gravity there. Things like Space suits can't protect against gravity. Maybe a space traveler will be bouncing around in a lower gravity, or squashed lik a bug against a wind shield with a too high gravity.

Then there's the problem of getting a life form from A-B. Stop thinking in terms of getting a man on the moon and start thinking of something 100,000 times greater. Food, air, fuel, equipment, gravity, etc.

These rules not only apply to us, they apply to every living creature in the Universe. They will have evolved over millions of years for life on their planet, not for space travel or living on another planet. .

Friends, this post is GOLD, even if posted by Markham. Finally someone who understand the basics of space travel

Jakez 02-17-2012 08:59 AM

Here you go JohnnyClips, they seem to have figured out what is going on:

http://i.imgur.com/SYO5n.jpg

porno jew 02-17-2012 08:59 AM

you always say that but in reality those "comfortable" with authority and conformity usually have the most stupid world views and are generally shallow and retarded.

there is a huge difference between a free thinker and an uncritical gullible idiot.

most think they are the first when they are really the latter.

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18765384)
That guy is not trolling. Like most people in this business, he has serious issues with authority and conformity. Like most in this business, he's most likely unemployable and probably never held any job for more than 6 months. He rationalizes his diminished and troubled emotional state as all like him do, by continually stating, supporting an affirming his belief that his dysfunction as a person is actually a great gift that sets him apart (and notably above) all others and then safely reasos that everyone else must have the problem (and notably beneath him). This is the safe emotional cacoon that he's constructed for himself, so that he may never have to address his own emotional issues and distorted world view. Reality is a scary thing for most to confront, particularly when living many years in the warm comfort of delusion.


Paul Markham 02-17-2012 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by xholly (Post 18765367)
We know who built the Great Pyramid: the pharaoh Khufu, who ruled Egypt about 2547-2524 B.C. And we know who supervised its construction: Khufu's brother, Hemienu. The pharaoh's right-hand man, Hemienu was "overseer of all construction projects of the king" and his tomb is one of the largest in a cemetery adjacent to the pyramid.

http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/imhotep.htm

http://www.archaeology.org/0705/etc/pyramid.html

If you look at the early attempts to build pyramids and the state of them, you quickly realise aliens were not involved.

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Originally Posted by PornerBros (Post 18765414)
Friends, this post is GOLD, even if posted by Markham. Finally someone who understand the basics of space travel

I watch National Geographic a little more than some here. I understand nothing, never will, never have and never could. :1orglaugh

TheSquealer 02-17-2012 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18765452)
you always say that but in reality those "comfortable" with authority and conformity usually have the most stupid world views and are generally shallow and retarded.

there is a huge difference between a free thinker and an uncritical gullible idiot.

most think they are the first when they are really the latter.

We are not talking about typical people - we are talking about someone that is masking mental illness with the misguided notion of being "enlightened"

JFK 02-17-2012 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by xholly (Post 18764448)
this guy for real?

NO, he's an Alien :helpme

porno jew 02-17-2012 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18765752)
We are not talking about typical people - we are talking about someone that is masking mental illness with the misguided notion of being "enlightened"

more like too much weed and too little brains. the internet is filled with them.

TheSquealer 02-17-2012 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18765818)
more like too much weed and too little brains. the internet is filled with them.

While both of those are most likely true, that doesn't account for enclosing ones self in a bubble of insane ideas, while summarily dismissing anyone who even questions those ideas as being a victim of that which he himself is not. That is indicative of problems that run quite a bit deeper.

These personalities always share the same common trait... demanding everyone else "open their eyes", while refusing to do the same.

There is also a big difference between healthy skepticism and asking questions and being totally delusional. Further, being "skeptical" of the presented or commonly accepted information, "not conforming" or "asking questions" require the immediate dismissal of any and all information that doesn't conform to what one has already determined to be the undeniable truth or fact, in spite of the complete lack of reasonable, tangible and debatable evidence to support such a conclusion.

TheSquealer 02-17-2012 12:12 PM

People make those decisions based on their understanding of the world around them at the time.

Sacrificing children as a question of right and wrong, is really a question of perspective, not objective/subjective reality. As is whether or not you live in a dictatorship or are simply in the care of a benevolent leader who gave you life, provides all for you and can take it away.

Suggesting that the masses have been often wrong and pointing out some obvious examples, doesn't make you anymore correct in your absurdity.

No one here to my knowledge has mentioned "the status quo" with the exception of you, who can't seem to stop as if its part of the discussion.

TheSquealer 02-17-2012 12:22 PM

Here is also a note on the idea of "other life forms" for the sane.

The idea of "other life" within the context of the mathematical probability of its existence, means "any form of life"

When you use incomplete math to estimate the total number of planets in the known universe which might be capable of sustaining life, that does not mean "life" as in "they are capable of intergalactic space travel". It means "any form of life" - i.e. most likely microbial at best.

For any form of life to evolve to that level of advancement where they are capable of traveling across galaxies, it also assumes a large number of mathematical impossibilities are overcome. I.e. that the planet didn't not suffer a catastrophic event during that period of evolution to destroy most life... that the life forms themselves were able to advance to the point of intergalactic travel without destroying themselves and so on and so forth.

The probability of life existing elsewhere in the universe might be a mathematical certainty. The probability of life from outside this solar system evolving to the point that they are capable of visiting this planet is incalculably small.

The odds they came here simply to show a bunch of gut eating savages how to move and align rocks.. uhmm.. you'd need to invent an entirely new form of math to account for how unlikely that is.

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