That's true but you know this is what happens when a culture starts to emerge where it's almost considered acceptable and expected to fuck your affiliates - affiliates then start protecting themselves. If you want to stop it then the next time a program decides not to pay at least jump in and show a little support for the affiliates wanting their hard earned money. It also makes you look a little more trustworthy yourself.

I remember posting on that debacle of a thread where the non payment was first announced and I recall many people trying to brush it off as if it was perfectly acceptable and that everyone should just roll over and take it. I never lost a dime but it disgusted me to see it.

It's for sale if you want it, I mean if you can do so well with it please please do!

i think it takes some balls to own up to your mistakes, especially on GFY, tho I'm sure if Melissa wasn't so cute and spunky I might not have the same attitude.

is Melissa going to shoot new content or her site will rotate what's already been shot?

For every good one, there are 20 bad. larger programs like yourselves shouldn't be a question, but when you come across a solo girl site or program with 5 shitty sites, they are doomed not to pay sooner or later.

I will restate my comment...

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Few thought it was "acceptable" but acknowledged that there was a risk. There is a risk with any decision you make in business. I've seen many CCBill programs fold. Sure, the affiliate will not lose whatever money is owed, but they still lose out on all of their time and money invested on promotions.

Classic.

So you are asking affiliates to generate money for a company that not only ripped them off but now has to overcome large amounts of corp as well as personal debt of it's owners. You guys are a disaster waiting to happen.

Matter of time until it happens again. If I could short you guys I would :1orglaugh

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Jesus wept.

What your saying doesnt make sense... If you are to pay affiliates based on revenues, you MUST have net revenue/profits, otherwise an affiliate model would never make sense. Thats like selling a prodcut for $30 where you only make $5 but offer $10 to someone to sell it... your doomed for failure.

Being adult content, you are selling virtual goods so your profits are near 75-90%. Therefore, money that was not rightfully yours in the first place was spent. You are not a bank nor the government, so what you did is called THEFT. Unless you have a lending institution, your comments above don't make sense.

Regardless of you paying out of your pocket or not making your mortgage is not our problem, its yours for shitty accounting and spending money that is not yours in the first place. Im so tired of seeing people try to justify their stupidity these days.

+1 on making an attempt to repay people back, hope that makes it easier to sleep at night but again, just another reason why this industry is turning to shit and hard to trust anyone these days

You should of added a complimentary BJ to the top 10. You might get some traffic back ;-)

It's not that you're not a handsome guy but your old avatar with your fingers in that girl was awesome. :2 cents:

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what a load of shit, fuck you. it's not just you who are suffering believe it or not. affiliates also hurt and when you dont pay jack shit, it hurts us too.

greedy fucking idiots.

now you realise the only way to make proper money is with your affiliates... well well well. anyone who sends you traffic would be a class A retard after you closed on them.

It's fine don't promote we are not saying anyone has to do anything when they are paid back if they decide to then thanks and if not and you still hate us we understand that as well. Either way we will pay back the money we owe.

We know this and we will pay everyone back not sure what else we can say or do!

Wow. I predict this will be a long one.

I think that you all went about things in a horrible manner. Obviously, you have realized that, for some reason.

I wasn't an affiliate, so I have no dog in this. If I were, and you made FULL restitution to everyone, then I would consider re-promotion. I'd consider it simply because of you coming back, admitting that you fucked up, fucked people over in the process, and doing your best to fix the the mess you made.

That's one hell of a lot than many who've caused funds to go in motion have done.

I hope Melissa shoots again. I always loved her stuff.

All of this is true but there is more risk with a smaller program handling their own payouts. That's not to say that it isn't ever worth it to take the additional risk.

Allison from TB made a post on that topic which I found to be rather refreshing at the time even though it was mostly neutral:
https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18497136&postcount=491

This is sort of what I am talking about. In the old days it used to be more common to see people from large programs actively supporting affiliates and others who just got screwed. Sometimes this would help to get affiliates their money in the end because the crooks would think twice about what they were doing and the possible consequences.

Considering I am either to lazy or stupid to have removed your links this whole time http://www.foxyreviews.com/pornstar/...a-midwest.html maybe some sort or payment may be in order??!

If you pay the money back to all affiliates then you personally have my full support. You've already apologized so that much is done. Though I came down really hard on you in the other thread (for good reason I believe) I certainly don't hate you. Good luck.

If we owe you money of course we will pay you!

What is for sale?

I never promoted the site and have nothing owed me, but I do have a question. A few years back I remember Melissa talking about how she was doing a search for a new model she was going to promote. At the time she mentioned that she had more than a million dollars saved up for herself to live on so she wanted to help someone else succeed. She may have even claimed it was more than a million. Anyway, I am just wondering. Is she still sitting on that cash while affiliates have not been paid or is that gone too?

How is Fieldhouse doing? New record coming out any time soon?

They were either lying or blew through it like trash. Notice she mentioned not paying her mortgage in 4 months.

I don't know what to believe and I don't care. Not sure why anyone else does at this point either.

I'd love to get paid but I've no idea how much I'm owed since the affiliate program disappeared... and I'd love to get back the hours I spent creating promotions that never got used as you closed up so suddenly...

Only took you 2 months to burn through all that cash? impressive

I promoted you for years, earned you a decent amount in good quality signs ups and I believe my links are probably still up. If you pay me what I'm owed I'd probably promote the site again, it converted well, but you'd want to move back to someone like CCBill to ensure the rebills will be paid.

I don't hold any grudges against the program or the owners, shit things happen and everyone makes mistakes. I genuinely do hope you live up to your promises of paying people what they are owed.

exospectral

What about the sales that have been sent since you have been down that have not been tracked?!

They wrote this book called Business for dummies.. Read it.

How in the FUCK do you use Affiliates income to fund another venture? Let alone one that is risky ? You use YOUR OWN...

i suggest some kind of "contest" thread ...

I think someones GFY account has been hacked.

password: straightwhiteteeth...?

Just lurking.

are you sister of chris mallick? perfect timing :) like mallick got money from suying megaupload for sharing his movie and you got a piece of it :)

what she said ^

I think if Melissa were to do a shoot with us, the resulting video might go a little way in mitigating some of the anger here :1orglaugh

Hey Melissa, it's a good paying gig too!

It'll certainly help you pay off an affiliate or two :)

Here site is updated with the same info. Working hard to get her good name on freeones back.

Ok we'll just wait and see if EVERYONE gets the money owed.

Same here, ccbill FTW.

So you are running an adult ponzi scheme. Nice, where do I sign up!!:thumbsup

I think you're right.