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Old 12-11-2011, 10:50 AM   #51
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how is it a village exactly ?


Settle! He means in comparison to Moscow, since he has never been he doesn't know what he is missing! It's bad enough SID from GFY already has been posting for 5 years how he wants to live in Canada.


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there really is no dictator, tyrant and anti-democratic impulse that you conspiracy kooks wont ally yourself with.

one day you might understand how that came to be. but since you guys seem a bit slow, probably not.


my favorite argument is "they do it on their own soil".
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Let's see , Putin approval rating from 75% down to 50% approval rating. Yeah, Sure seems like he is hated by all the Russians.

Any one of these puppets we have in this country would die to have that kind of rating.

Dopes!
considering most of media independent from Putin have been destroyed or weakened and Kremlin controls almost all TV and press now - yes, it is Putin's failure.
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For example, I've been to the USA and I can say there is much less democracy than we have in totally non-democratic Russia.
What? Because our cops don't let you drink vodka in public places?

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Settle! He means in comparison to Moscow
Yeah exactly. Even the USA (not NYC, Vegas or LA of course) was looking very depressive after Moscow.
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Old 12-11-2011, 01:17 PM   #56
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typical russian scum.
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What? Because our cops don't let you drink vodka in public places?
Actually everything is on the contrary. It's a very big problem to drink vodka on public in Russia, but in the USA you are ok doing this if the bottle is packed into the paper bag (hypocrites).

I still remember the case when we met a couple of the US cops on Elm street (right near he place Kennedy was shot) and asked them on where we can eat famous Texas steaks and drink bourbon, we got a detailed map and their kid explanation. I relay appreciate this because Russian police is not so kind about night drinking advices...
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typical russian scum.
Typical porno jew clueless.
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However it seems they are very pissed at Putin. Seems kinda funny because it was only a few years back they praised him like he was the messiah.

Obviously everyone out side Russia already knew Putin was nothing more than a criminal thug. Did the Russians finally figure this out and are mad at him?

Serious question, what was the final tipping point that Russians finally became so anti-Putin? (I mean prior to him rigging this latest election)
This election had nothing to do with Putin but rather with the actual president of Russia wich is Medvedev, his weak leftish and Global governance attitude has reseulted in loss of confidence by the Russian people who want a sovereign Russia as it has always been.
The poor results in this election are proof that Russia wants the strong leadership of Vladimir putin and not the NWO puppet Medvedev.
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Putin and Medvedev are both on the Surkov's leash.
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Actually everything is on the contrary. It's a very big problem to drink vodka on public in Russia, but in the USA you are ok doing this if the bottle is packed into the paper bag (hypocrites).
Whats so hypocritical about it? And its not legal everywhere. Most places you cant have open container - period. Big problem to drink vodka in public in Russia? Get real. Maybe somewhere down town Moscow it is, but everywhere else? The real Russia is not Moscow and St. Pete. Outside of those two, thats what I call real Russia. And there you you find real "villages" that makes fucking Winnipeg look like Las Vegas.
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Whats so hypocritical about it? And its not legal everywhere. Most places you cant have open container - period. Big problem to drink vodka in public in Russia? Get real. Maybe somewhere down town Moscow it is, but everywhere else? The real Russia is not Moscow and St. Pete. Outside of those two, thats what I call real Russia. And there you you find real "villages" that makes fucking Winnipeg look like Las Vegas.
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Old 12-11-2011, 02:12 PM   #63
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Vladimir Putin accuses US of being behind election protests
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-protests.html

It's similar to what we've been seeing in a number of other countries. The West are interfering with other nations. Now we're seeing thousands of fake YouTube and Twitter accounts appear just as they did in Libya. The West want to destabilize Russia; ideally create a revolution and then replace Putin with a leader who will not defend Syria/Iran and will sell resources to the West for dirt cheap. This will not benefit the people of Russia; Putin genuinely cares about the Russian people

It's a very similar system of interference as we've seen in Libya and currently Syria. There's a long history of this type of interference, as former Economic Hitman John Perkins admits



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Old 12-12-2011, 12:36 AM   #65
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The real Russia is not Moscow and St. Pete.
Have you been to Russia personally, or everything you know, you've got from CNN and FOX?
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I've seen this many times with Americans/Canadians that work in Russia. They marry a Russian women with zero core relationship fundamentals, then try to merge ideals/culture with some of the most stubborn women on the planet, just to end in pure failure. It sure ain't pretty to watch, entertaining, but a pissed off Russian woman can be soulless cunt. Again, trust me, just stay away from them.
It's not a good idea to build up a correct opinion depending on your Americans/Canadians friend's cases. They are just losers. They were asking for troubles and they got them. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand that if young good looking women marry a foraging gay (which usually must older), she's rather a prostitute or a swindler. Trust me.

P.S. Personally I know only one case of successful marriage between Russian woman (a cousin of my wife) and a German man (they are both live in France for years). In all other cases I know about, Russian women got divorced with their foreign husbands within a first year.
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Yes. Number of times and not just Moscow and St Pete.
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You don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand that if young good looking women marry a foraging gay (which usually must older), she's rather a prostitute or a swindler.
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a vy mozhyete napisat eto predlozheniye po russki? ya ne ponymayu
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i hope no russians gets trapped in something simillar to this so called american-Arab- what the motherfuck ever spring bullshit, no doudt it's bad When your voting rights meant nothing, however there are more important things than going elections for each 4-5 years

i always respected Russian culture, i would rather live in there Putin runs the gov durring his lifetime rather than idiots in my country voted for this so called democraticly elected one.

So i hope dem Ruskies asking for a better option for their country, jus my
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almost accurate, except the women part.



i agree there are bunch of my countrymen ended marying russian or either mingle with them and we hear mostly positive comments.

i also head some russians friendsand knew Russian girls too, nice people...
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Opps LOL course I meant "foreign guy" but not a "foraging gay" LOL

P.S. I haven't woke up completely when was writing that and "thanks" to to FF's syntax checker
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You miss understood my American perspective on Russian women as you assumed the worst. It's impossible for you to have a valid opinion, simply because you're not an American/Canadian or have/had a relationship here to compare too.

Just like the States, it's impossible to categorize all Russian women because there are simply too many variables, social cast, age, location, ethnicity, etc. This is why I say, stay away from Russian women when traveling for your first time..

Anyway, I'll tell my story and cover the basics (IMO) for non-Russians to understand Russia and the women. My opinion is based on travel/work for years outside the major cities and the actual suburbs in smaller cities in the south. Comparable to US cities like Memphis, Natchez, or Shreveport.

When in Russia I rent-out a dacha from a family I know well. The father runs/owns local retail markets as his son (US immigration lottery winner) runs a limo service in San Diego. The father has two daughters, one married with kids (28) and another divorced without (35) as they both work in their father business. All speak English well as they've been to the States, but live exceptional lives as proud Russians.

I met the father on my first trip in early 2006 form LAX to Moscow. As I spoke of my plans to import/export products he straight out told me, I must be crazy/stupid as we got hammered exchanging stories on a 13 hour flight. When we landed he gave me his number and told me to check-in every three days during my 6 week venture.

As all my preliminary contacts failed I was invited to come to his city. This instantly opened doors for me and learned I was extremely lucky to meet/know this guy. I think he actually took pity on me as he knew from the start I could of easily got myself in real trouble. In short, he was right, looking back knowing what I know now, crazy and stupid were actually very kind words.

Anyway, I know many Russian women well, due to the daughter first being my translator as preliminary business prospect in my field usually needed to go through a woman first. I soon discover, the better the business, the more educated the people, the more likely they speak some English.

IMO, contrary to popular belief, Russians may look European, but their culture is more Asian/Middle Eastern. Although, distinctly Russian the culture leans heavily towards a family based core. In short, kids and family are the core of true Russian culture. All things are based around family, as it's everything, without it you're nothing.

Therein lies the problem. Although, women born around 1991 have a more free thinking liberal attitude, outside the major cities it's still the same. If a Russian woman is not married by the time she is 25 things go downhill fast. By the time she reaches 30 and doesn't have any kids, not married, divorced with kids, she's fucked.

This sets a precedence of competition amongst the younger women outside the major cities. It's almost like a major fishing competition as the man is a trophy prize. Most women usually grab the first catch not wanting to risk the alternative, later to find out they married a loser.

This is also why most Russian women (usually) up to 30 keep themselves in great shape or always dress their best because you'd never know when you might get a bite or an opportunity to climb the social cast latter. It's actually comical to watch as Desperate housewives and Sex in the City were/are incredibly popular shows is Russia as women try to mimic the attitudes and episodes.

Does this mean all Russian women are like that? No, of course not, but if they're talking to you, a foreigner, I'd be willing to bet the majority are exactly like that. I've seen this many times with Americans/Canadians that work in Russia. They marry a Russian women with zero core relationship fundamentals, then try to merge ideals/culture with some of the most stubborn women on the planet, just to end in pure failure. It sure ain't pretty to watch, entertaining, but a pissed off Russian woman can be soulless cunt. Again, trust me, just stay away from them.

Long reply, but was going to add it to my blog.
I dated a Russian chick for some time and she wasn't crazy bad like you describe. Well technically she was from the Ukraine but her Mother was Russian. She wasn't Americanized either as I met her after she had only been here 2 or 3 months.
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Many people voted for them just because they don't want to vote for the Putin's United Russia.
Which is fraud. You are given the privilege to express your opinion and vote with your mind and heart for the party that you think will make things better. Voting for any party just to block United Russia is a fucking scam, anyone who voted 'for any party against UR' should be ashamed of them selves.
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None of the videos I've seen that supposedly show election fraud in favor of United Russia have impressed me. There was one video on which some journalists clame that they have received a phone call 2 days before the election saying that there will be a massive drop in of fraudent ballots for United Russia and exactly where it will take place. So they went there and caught on camera people who were dropping off the ballots. Well isn't it a simple set up designed to smear United Russia? But it made some people come out and protest. I guess it's their right. But I can't belive how anyone can be stupid enough to believe that it's actually United Russia behind this.

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A bit prejudges? It's an absolute valid opinion because it's fact.
Of course not, and I even don't want to discuss it with you. It as absurd as if I start argue with you about living in California. That will look at least stupid, right?

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It's not just foreigners because Russia has one of the highest divorce/single mother rates in the world.
Yes. But you don't know WHY EXACTLY Russia has one of the highest single mother rates in the world. I don't think you know the right answer however.
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Russia billionaire Mikhail Prokhorov to challenge Putin
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16138739

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You know, I would vote for that guy.
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I wonder if it will get through but it has been reported that it's Pro Putin protest going on in Moscow right now. It has been said that some 25 k people are attending. Not sure if it's true.
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I wonder if it will get through but it has been reported that it's Pro Putin protest going on in Moscow right now. It has been said that some 25 k people are attending. Not sure if it's true.
Yes and no. All these "pro-Putin" actions are being organized by "Nashi" that use young people from near regions (not from Moscow) for money.

So their actions are real, but not voluntary. Just take a look at this video where the "Nashi" guys chant "Medvedev! Pobeda (Victory)!" but they are hiding their faces from camera. Because they feel shame for doing this and they don't want their friends and relative see them praising Putin and Medvedev:



Here is another group of young people used by "Nashi" - the students. These are not even being paid:



These are saying it openly: "we DO NOT support Putin and his party!" As you can see, they have nothing to be ashamed for, so they don't hide. Note the girl on 2:10 who said: "if I'd know it's for United Russia, I'd never been here!"
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Yes and no. All these "pro-Putin" actions are being organized by "Nashi" that use young people from near regions (not from Moscow) for money.

So their actions are real, but not voluntary. Just take a look at this video where the "Nashi" guys chant "Medvedev! Pobeda (Victory)!" but they are hiding their faces from camera. Because they feel shame for doing this and they don't want their friends and relative see them praising Putin and Medvedev:



Here is another group of young people used by "Nashi" - the students. These are not even being paid:



These are saying it openly: "we DO NOT support Putin and his party!" As you can see, they have nothing to be ashamed for, so they don't hide.
Now this video is interesting
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As an American who has been in Russia for 4 years, with a live in Russian girlfriend for 3 of them, I have never read anyone describe this place, and their women, as accurately as Jesus Christ. You should seriously write a book. Took me a couple of hard years to learn what you summed up nicely in this thread.

One thing to add. Every Russian I know cheats on their significant other. Every single one of them. Ive never seen anything like it.

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One thing to add. Every Russian I know cheats on their significant other. Every single one of them. Ive never seen anything like it.
It's as true as a statement that every American I know serves Satan. The only truth there is that 90% of Russian men are cheating on their wives. Yes, that's sad but true (women and majority in Russia and not every one can expect to have her own husband)

I more this thread grove as more stupid comments it harvests.
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Sorry for my critical thinking but: where the fuck is the stamp?

There are tons of material like this on the internet, material that doesn't prove anything just makes suggestions just like the video I posted earlier, this stuff falls apart as soon as you put your emotions aside and start thinking critically.

In your opinion life in Russia under Putin became better or worse?
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Yes and no. All these "pro-Putin" actions are being organized by "Nashi" that use young people from near regions (not from Moscow) for money.

So their actions are real, but not voluntary. Just take a look at this video where the "Nashi" guys chant "Medvedev! Pobeda (Victory)!" but they are hiding their faces from camera. Because they feel shame for doing this and they don't want their friends and relative see them praising Putin and Medvedev:
Let me get it straight, you say that those people on the video are being payed to be there, and your prove of that is that they are covering their faces? That's solid prove mate!
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What? Because our cops don't let you drink vodka in public places?

It's a common mistake to think that there is no democracy in Russia. And the fact that people who don't understand Russian language making comments about democracy in Russia amazes me. There are several news channels dedicated to anti Putin propaganda, news papers and radio stations. Russian internet is a different story all together, I actually met people who have thousands of followers in twitter and they twit "Putin is a fucking gay" (only in Russian) and same people say that there is no freedom of speech in Russia.
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Sorry for my critical thinking but: where the fuck is the stamp?
Right there is no stamp. As well as no stamp here:



However that's 100% true, because that day my son has left his school via window since the doors were closed and security didn't allow the pupils to leave the building till 18:00 to prevent them from visiting the meeting against Putin on December 10th.

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In your opinion life in Russia under Putin became better or worse?
It's a wrong question. The Russian economics depends on oil/gas prices which were 10 times higher in Putin's times comparing to the Yeltsin's period. The prices here have grown like mushrooms after summer rain. Moscow become one of the world's most expensive cities etc. People now getting paid much more than 10 years ago etc. On the other hand, we got an awful corruption and bureaucracy here. The most serious and powerful criminals in Russia are our government and police. Now, it's possible to buy here everything if you have enough money. E.g. you can kill someone and you won't be punished - just pay for it. The oil and gas money go directly to the Western countries where Putin and other officials keep their money, realty... and families (do you know where exactly Putin's daughters live now?)

So can I say the live under Putin became better? I don't think so.

Watch this video:

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It's a common mistake to think that there is no democracy in Russia. And the fact that people who don't understand Russian language making comments about democracy in Russia amazes me. There are several news channels dedicated to anti Putin propaganda, news papers and radio stations. Russian internet is a different story all together, I actually met people who have thousands of followers in twitter and they twit "Putin is a fucking gay" (only in Russian) and same people say that there is no freedom of speech in Russia.
Yes that's true. Actually there is not less or not more democracy as everywhere. I always told that democracy is an urban legend for idiots.

However, everything that happening now in Russia is not because of luck of "democracy". The people just tired of thievish and twofaced government which doesn't care about anything except their own pockets.

As about twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/KermlinRussia
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Let me get it straight, you say that those people on the video are being payed to be there, and your prove of that is that they are covering their faces? That's solid prove mate!
It's not a prove at all. The prices are well known here like we all know: Sun is rising on East and water is wet. The video I posted just proves that people who "support Medvedev and Putin" don't want to show their faces - they feel SHAME. What do you think - why?
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It's not a prove at all. The prices are well known here like we all know: Sun is rising on East and water is wet. The video I posted just proves that people who "support Medvedev and Putin" don't want to show their faces - they feel SHAME. What do you think - why?
There can be thousands of reasons for that. And I'm not someone who likes to speculate and make quick decisions. You cannot assume that it's because they are hiding their faces because they are getting payed for protesting that's just silly. Besides there were plenty of people wearing masks during anti Putin protests too, so according to your logic where they payed too?

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Yes that's true. Actually there is not less or not more democracy as everywhere. I always told that democracy is an urban legend for idiots.

However, everything that happening now in Russia is not because of luck of "democracy". The people just tired of thievish and twofaced government which doesn't care about anything except their own pockets.

As about twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/KermlinRussia
that twitter has some gems in it
(Rise of the Machines. Across the country, iPhones switching to day light saving time despite the presidential order )

here's another good one http://fuckyeahrussianpolitics.tumblr.com/ more humorous tho before all the recent debacle.
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There can be thousands of reasons for that.
E.g.?

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You cannot assume that it's because they are hiding their faces because they are getting payed for protesting that's just silly.
I didn't say that. I KNOW there were paid, and I GUESS they are hiding because they feel shame. But shame for what?

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Besides there were plenty of people wearing masks during anti Putin protests too, so according to your logic where they payed too?
Not. Simply because it was a non-authorized meeting and end everyone who got identified was arrested and sued after that. Would you hide your face if you know what you will go to jail if your face will be identified?
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Right there is no stamp. As well as no stamp here:



However that's 100% true,
Your statement is not getting any more credible by the amount of times you state it. You know I can make such "prove" with photoshop in 10 mins. Besides it's not the point. This letter doesn't prove anything if it's true.


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It's a wrong question.
Yeah, well it's the main question for me. As a citizen of a country that was asleep for 70 years thanks to October revolution of 1917, my country's well being is the only thing that interestes me. I couldn't care less about such questionable value as democracy and unproved election fraud. I simply don't want to see another revolution while we are clearly on right course at the moment.

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The Russian economics depends on oil/gas prices which were 10 times higher in Putin's times comparing to the Yeltsin's period.
Typical mistake!

1. No, the prices of oil were not on the rise all the time since 1999. Check out the graphs:

1.1. Russian economy growth:


1.2. oil prices:


Pay specific attention to the period 2000-2004, do you see the fall of oil prices? So if Russian economy growth was tied to oil prices same should have happened to the economy of Russia during the same period, right? Well do you see it on the first chart? No! So that's completely wrong to say that Russian economy growth is entirely due to the rising oil prices.

2. There are many countries in the world that have much easier access to oil than Russia, who's oil reserves located in Siberia far from any sea and trading places, let's take Libya for example. Well do I need to make a comparison between modern day Russia and Libya? Who is located in Mediterranean sea btw! And let's not forget USA who is another oil producing country, their economy went down the drains since 1999.

So no, oil prices were not the sole reason why Russian economy grew.


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Now, it's possible to buy here everything if you have enough money. E.g. you can kill someone and you won't be punished - just pay for it.
So it's all United Russia's fault, right?


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The oil and gas money go directly to the Western countries where Putin and other officials keep their money, realty... and families (do you know where exactly Putin's daughters live now?)
I have spent 3 years of my life researching Putin trying to find how he steals oil money, and till this day I couldn't find anything more than silly videos that have screaming titles like "Putin eats live baby" but don't really prove anything. So please let me know how Putin steals oil money? But please no rubbish suggestive videos! I've seen them all. Here is an example prove that American government steals from their taxpayers: Bush family lobbies increased military budget, makes decisions to bomb irrelevant countries and produces and sells bombs and bombers. That is a corruption pure and simple. How does Putin steal oil money? Does he or his family members own Gazprom or Rosneft?

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So can I say the live under Putin became better? I don't think so.
Putin
1. Stopped war in Chechnya, buy buying Chechen warlords, probably true, but it's much better than any bloodshed and costs us much less money than fighting them. Which is definitely a win rather than fail in a long run.

2. Got rid of Russia's national debt.

3. Created stabilization fund.

4. Average salary raised 800%.

5. My father's pension is 16 500 RUB which is more than my mother's who live in a EURO zone country (which is very expensive)
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lol your graphs don't help your point.
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Your statement is not getting any more credible by the amount of times you state it. You know I can make such "prove" with photoshop in 10 mins. Besides it's not the point. This letter doesn't prove anything if it's true.
1) I live in Moscow.
2) I know that all Moscow pupils were held over the schools till 18:00 according to that "photoshoped letter".
3) My own son was among them.

I don't have to prove anything. I know what I know, as about you - I don't care.
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1) I live in Moscow.
2) I know that all Moscow pupils were held over the schools till 18:00 according to that "photoshoped letter".
3) My own son was among them.

I don't have to prove anything. I know what I know, as about you - I don't care.
Whatever! I'm still waiting for prove that Putin steals oil money. It's really important to me.
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lol your graphs don't help your point.
How do you mean? You didn't read the text below graphs did you? Look at period 2000 - 2004.
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Whatever! I'm still waiting for prove that Putin steals oil money. It's really important to me.
If it's really important to you, go find out.
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If it's really important to you, go find out.
Thank you for proving my point! There is no evidence that Putin is corrupt and you know it. The rubbish that circulates the internet is no more than opposition propaganda.
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