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Old 12-12-2011, 12:28 PM   #101
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gotta wonder how this Putin Palace is being financed in Crimea Ukraine
http://ruscesar.livejournal.com/102594.html
this is a private construction, not commissioned by russian goverment
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:37 PM   #102
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gotta wonder how this Putin Palace is being financed in Crimea Ukraine
http://ruscesar.livejournal.com/102594.html
this is a private construction, not commissioned by russian goverment
This is exactly the "evidence" that I'm talking about. It has nothing to do with Putin but the whole revolutionary resource livejournal is filled with posts about this being "Putin Palace".
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There is no evidence that Putin is corrupt and you know it.
Ignorance is bliss
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Old 12-12-2011, 01:00 PM   #104
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This is exactly the "evidence" that I'm talking about. It has nothing to do with Putin but the whole revolutionary resource livejournal is filled with posts about this being "Putin Palace".
i personally got all evidence i needed:
- putin 'running' for a 3rd time, and pretty sure without a doubt he will be 'elected' in march;
- and russian news media was quiet whole past week about protests in moscow, only during weekend they've mentioned something about saturday's protest while cut out all anti-putin chants, this is major news and all they showed was kirkorov show and his new boutique.
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Old 12-12-2011, 01:04 PM   #105
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while cut out all anti-putin chants, this is major news and all they showed kirkorov show and his new boutique.

Um FINALLY someone mentions Kirkorov! Alla & Kirkorov for President
Not to change the subject or anything but I saw the show about his Surrogate Momma from States interview. Cyberxxx I like your posts and perspectives, let's hear it!!
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Old 12-12-2011, 01:22 PM   #107
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Грешно конечно смеяться над стариками и убогими молодыми дегенератами, но что поделать, если кроме них и подневольных таджикских дворников, по сути, никто не поддерживает ни Единую России, ни Путина, ни (прости господи) Медведева.

P.S. The main claim of multi-thousandth meeting on 10th December was: "For honest elections!" Do you know what exactly the president of Russian Federation Mr. Medvedev has commented on that? He said that he does not agree with that claim. I.e. he does not agree with the requirement of honest elections. Can he say something even more stupid? Proof: http://ru-ru.facebook.com/Dmitry.Medvedev
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Old 12-12-2011, 01:49 PM   #108
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And one more video (for Russian-speaking only, sorry):

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Old 12-12-2011, 02:13 PM   #109
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P.S. The main claim of multi-thousandth meeting on 10th December was: "For honest elections!" Do you know what exactly the president of Russian Federation Mr. Medvedev has commented on that? He said that he does not agree with that claim. I.e. he does not agree with the requirement of honest elections. Can he say something even more stupid? Proof: http://ru-ru.facebook.com/Dmitry.Medvedev
Isn't it comfortable to interpret everything and anything president says to fit your point of view? Another bulletproof evidence from you! Well done mate! If you base your political opinion on misinterpretations like this and try to present them like evil agenda of president it's quite clear why people like you

Here is what president actually wrote:

Люди имеют право высказывать свою позицию, что они вчера и сделали. Хорошо, что все прошло в рамках закона. Я не согласен ни с лозунгами, ни с заявлениями, прозвучавшими на митингах. Тем не менее мною было дано поручение проверить все сообщения с избирательных участков

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People have the right to express their position, and that's what they did yesterday. It's good that it went within the bounds of law. I disagree with slogans, and statements that were voiced. However i gave out orders to check all of the signals that we got from the voting districts.

You can interpret it like you did "I.e. he does not agree with the requirement of honest elections" only if you really want to.
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Old 12-12-2011, 02:16 PM   #110
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Ignorance is bliss
It's called critical thinking. Still waiting for that proof by the way.
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Old 12-12-2011, 02:18 PM   #111
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It's called critical thinking. Still waiting for that proof by the way.
You can wait it forever. You do you think you, a prosecutor? Why have a provide a proof on anything? I your ignorance is your problem, I'm not a teacher.
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Old 12-12-2011, 02:25 PM   #112
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This election had nothing to do with Putin but rather with the actual president of Russia wich is Medvedev, his weak leftish and Global governance attitude has reseulted in loss of confidence by the Russian people who want a sovereign Russia as it has always been.
The poor results in this election are proof that Russia wants the strong leadership of Vladimir putin and not the NWO puppet Medvedev.
This is my take on it too.

Who's name was on the ticket? Not Putin, ..but in fact Medvedev.

I think seats were lost in the Duma because of Medvedev's wishy-washy appeasement to the globalists, which not only exposed him as a weak tool, but really set Russia back.

Russia lost a lost of time and strategic advantage figuring out the West is indeed looking to NEUTRALIZE and then DESTROY them. The great Russian-American Reset with Start 2, Russia's WTO bid, Russian's inclusion in the Ballistic Missile Defense shield, and Russia's going along with the no-fly zone in Libya ALL failed or backfired. You just can't make a deal with these globalist devils! ..I think Medvedev has now come to fully realize this, and THAT was the primary reason he elected not to go head-to-head with Putin in the coming elections. He instead decided it best to just switch seats with Putin.
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Old 12-12-2011, 02:30 PM   #113
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You can interpret it like you did "I.e. he does not agree with the requirement of honest elections" only if you really want to.
I'd suggest you to read the comments of OTHER regular Russians on that statement (yeah, right there - on his facebook page). Go ahead an say again that we ALL are idiots and only you the one who got his answer right. Congrats on that man!







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This is my take on it too.

Who's name was on the ticket? Not Putin, ..but in fact Medvedev.

I think seats were lost in the Duma because of Medvedev's wishy-washy appeasement to the globalists, which not only exposed him as a weak tool, but really set Russia back.

Russia lost a lost of time and strategic advantage figuring out the West is indeed looking to NEUTRALIZE and then DESTROY them. The great Russian-American Reset with Start 2, Russia's WTO bid, Russian's inclusion in the Ballistic Missile Defense shield, and Russia's going along with the no-fly zone in Libya ALL failed or backfired. You just can't make a deal with these globalist devils! ..I think Medvedev has now come to fully realize this, and THAT was the primary reason he elected not to go head-to-head with Putin in the coming elections. He instead decided it best to just switch seats with Putin.
Well United Russia didn't lose that much of votes, it's not a disaster in any case. Especially if you compare to what is going on with other leading parties around the world, Finland, France, Germany and many more. Parties in those countries that were leading during the economic crisis of 2008 suffered much more which is normal. So it was to be expected.
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I'd suggest you to read the comments of OTHER regular Russians on that statement (yeah, right there - on his facebook page). Go ahead an say again that we ALL are idiots and only you the one who got his answer right. Congrats on that man!
"Putin and Muzhik" is epic I really liked it, posted it on my facebook too.

Wanna show me the bit where I say that you all are idiots? Who is ALL? Your ALL is a bunch brainwashed livejournal junkies who base their political opinions on suggestive half truth videos on youtube and sleazy nationalistic slogans by mr. Navalny (another CIA puppet). There are more of people like me than there are people like you. You know why? Because life for them actually became better under Putin, say whatever you want about him, my father saw his pension go up every 6 months, while my mom who lives in europe will loose her apartment if I won't pay for it. So don't tell me about ignorance.
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"Putin and Muzhik" is epic I really liked it, posted it on my facebook too.

Wanna show me the bit where I say that you all are idiots? Who is ALL? Your ALL is a bunch brainwashed livejournal junkies.
Actually I was talking about Medvedev's facebook, but never mind...



P.S. I'm glad for your fathers pension. Have no idea where he was working however... For example my father is getting only about 15,000 rules ($500) a month. It's is his pension for 45 years of work (he is a veteran of work and a holder of the "Znak Pocheta") + sick benefit (he's a disabled worker of 1st degree) + so-called "Moscow bonus".
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Dear cyberxxx,

you have filled this thread with videos of poetry and indie songs, it's really nice of you. But what exactly are you saying?

Is it typical tactics of online revolutionaries pursuing overseas sponsored regime change agenda to fill the threads with videos without any sense?
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Everything what I wanted to say have been said already: I DON'T WANT ANYBODY SEAL MY VOTE and I DO NOT TRUST TO PUTIN AND HIS PUPPET MASTERS (SURKOV etc)
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Is it typical tactics of online revolutionaries pursuing overseas sponsored regime
The overseas sponsored regime is already here since 1993.

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Well United Russia didn't lose that much of votes, it's not a disaster in any case. Especially if you compare to what is going on with other leading parties around the world, Finland, France, Germany and many more. Parties in those countries that were leading during the economic crisis of 2008 suffered much more which is normal. So it was to be expected.
Exactly, it wasn't a big loss.

The thing is, the Western media on one hand talks about "voting irregularities" and "vote stuffing" ..but on the other hand, they talk about "big seat losses" for United Russia in the Duma. I mean, which way do you want it?
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Here we go

Russia billionaire Mikhail Prokhorov to challenge Putin
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16138739

Yes, it looks like the next wave of the Anglo-American backed assault has begun.

I hope Putin slams the Northern route into Afghanistan shut in their faces!
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I am just laughing at the responses in this thread. It's just typical Russian mentality to place blame on others.
Your conclusions about us is wrong as usually. For example, where exactly I have blamed others? The guy from Canada can no be considered Russian citizen.
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In short, Americans or our Government can honestly give a flying fuck how things are run in Russia.
I don't think you could be more wrong about that.

Americans in general might be apathetic. Your government, absolutely not. They care IMMENSELY. You can clearly see that by their actions.

Russia (and China) are rather large obstacles to overcome in their stated plot of full spectrum dominance, and World hegemony.
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I don't think you could be more wrong about that.

Americans in general might be apathetic. Your government, absolutely not. They care IMMENSELY. You can clearly see that by their actions.

Russia (and China) are rather large obstacles to overcome in their stated plot of full spectrum dominance, and World hegemony.
I'll let you in on a big secret.. Do you want to know why the American govt cares about what goes on in other countries? It's quite simple, we are capitalistic pigs. We want to make money.

You can look at it any way you want but eventually America's brand is our fortune 500 companies. We really don't care how any country is run as long as our companies can do business there.

The term was often called "gun boat diplomacy" and America first used it in Japan to open up that country for outside trade. Up until that point Japan was an isolationist regime that didn't trade openly with out side countries. That was until 1853 when four US ships sailed into Tokyo Bay and forced them to trade with the US or face being bombarded.

Like it or not this is what we do. We don't involve our self's in other countries policies in attempt to spread Democracy as an ideology, like the USSR did in an attempt to spread a Communist ideology. No we involve our self in other country's business, in order to make them friendly as a trade partner.

We aren't trying to take your country over by some govt idealism, no we only want to sell you shit and buy shit. This is why calling the US hypocritical for things like working with some rogue dictators vs other is meaningless. We don't care about your govt's as long as our companies can do business and you don't affect that business in other places.


Freedom to buy & sell is the only freedom our govt policies really care about. It might not be pretty but that's about the truth of it. Many people think China owns the US due to debit, but think about it.. What would China be with out the business it gets from the US?

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It's called critical thinking. Still waiting for that proof by the way.
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