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Libertine · 02-05-2003, 04:38 AM

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Originally posted by Kinder
My opinion is that The Hun don't need major design changes.
But enhancing the current graphics by adding them a modern touch would be very welcomed.

A professional cartoonist can make wonders with Hun's mascot.

I seriousely doubt this could decrease Hun's performances.

What a "nice" nickname you have. Does it reflect the content of your sites?

The Hun · 02-05-2003, 04:55 AM

20K of enhanced traffic? Times 1,616,774 uniques (currently showing on SexTracker, assuming EVERYBODY has their cache switched on), 32.335 Gbyte of transfer. That's 370 Kbytes per second... That's another 3 Mbit, assuming the load would be equal throughout the day (which it's not)... 3 Mbit for - only - 20K of graphics...

check www.huncards.com, there are pretty good graphics, a lot more could be done, but I doubt it will make up the extra bandwidth that will be used.

Muff · 02-05-2003, 05:00 AM

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Originally posted by The Hun
20K of enhanced traffic? Times 1,616,774 uniques (currently showing on SexTracker, assuming EVERYBODY has their cache switched on), 32.335 Gbyte of transfer. That's 370 Kbytes per second... That's another 3 Mbit, assuming the load would be equal throughout the day (which it's not)... 3 Mbit for - only - 20K of graphics...

check www.huncards.com, there are pretty good graphics, a lot more could be done, but I doubt it will make up the extra bandwidth that will be used.

All this interest in your business. You should go public. Let me know if I can get a good deal on an IPO.

Kinder · 02-05-2003, 05:08 AM

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Originally posted by punkworld

What a "nice" nickname you have. Does it reflect the content of your sites?

I am very glad thay you like my nickname and no it doesn't reflect the content of my sites.

boldy · 02-05-2003, 05:43 AM

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Originally posted by kevinale

Man Coca-Cola has had the same taste for , like, a hundred years. They should change the taste to keep drinkers interested.

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no sig

They do change it all the time m8, really ...

http · 02-05-2003, 05:52 AM

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Originally posted by NoCarrier

If you had taken the time to read my reply, you would've realized that I was being sarcastic with the fact that this guy wanted to use a professional paysite approach for a TGP.

dude

relax and read again

it is quite obvious

AmeliaG · 02-05-2003, 06:33 AM

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Originally posted by AC fred
You don't know the: If it's not broken, don't fix it...

I totally agree. The http://www.thehun.net/ is about the best tgp out there. No sense mucking with something which already works so well.

--Amelia G

Argoz · 02-05-2003, 07:26 AM

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Originally posted by AC fred
You don't know the: If it's not broken, don't fix it...

Raph · 02-05-2003, 07:29 AM

I guess The Hun is one of those adept of the KISS concept :D

polish_aristocrat · 02-05-2003, 08:19 AM

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Originally posted by Wizzo
I've always thought that he should charge 9.95 for access to achives... I would likely bring in a extra 100k a month... Plus, leaving the front page free, it probleey wouldn't hurt his traffic to much...

I'd do the same. + I'd charge ALL webmasters who get listed like $10-$15 per gallery. That would mean $30k / month more cash + MUCH less work. I don't know why he isn't doing it, but that's really not my problem.

Raph · 02-05-2003, 08:20 AM

I like that idea of charging for every listings, whole lot less crap to deal with .. cold hard cash all the way

NastyJack · 02-05-2003, 09:15 AM

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Originally posted by The Hun
So it's not the link individually that are protected by law, it's the collection itself.

Let me see if I get this.
Individual links are NOT protected by law - it's the whole collection of links that are. So taking a few links would be legal then, right?

Am I the only idiot that doesn't understand what he said?

Regards
NastyJack

Tomahawk · 02-05-2003, 10:02 AM

who cares, i'm not a surfer

Za Ha · 02-05-2003, 10:09 AM

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Originally posted by The Hun
A dictionary is copyrighted.

Ya but when writing a paper you DONT have to source definitions because it is understood that it is COMMON KNOWLEDGE...

But I agree stealing links should get a persons hand cut off.

pink_in_the_middle · 02-05-2003, 10:11 AM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ
The Hun is the only TGP I enjoy surfing.

You dirty little pervert

NastyJack · 02-05-2003, 12:03 PM

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Originally posted by Za Ha
But I agree stealing links should get a persons hand cut off.

Lol... Another joker huh!
No one is hotlinking or taking his link discreption dude.

In fact what you're saying is that you would not want someone to post you're link on they're site without asking you first.

Oh yea, just a little reminder for yea.
TheHun use to hotlink images a long time ago so maybe you should tell him that he should get his hands cut off.

Or is you're comment only for least known webmasters?

Regards
NastyJack

Flynn · 02-05-2003, 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by AC fred
You don't know the: If it's not broken, don't fix it...

I agree ;) there is no need to reinvent the wheel.

The Hun · 02-06-2003, 06:53 AM

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Originally posted by NastyJack

Let me see if I get this.
Individual links are NOT protected by law - it's the whole collection of links that are. So taking a few links would be legal then, right?

Am I the only idiot that doesn't understand what he said?

Regards
NastyJack

If you go to my site or any other database to take a link you're violating database protection laws. The site is a database. If you go there to take information - even if it's one single link - with the intention to reproduce 'em you're violating a law.

The links are not copyrighted individually, but you don't find 'em on my site individially...

The rule is simple: a link-site is a database. Nothing from a database may be reproduced without authority from it's owner.

The Hun · 02-06-2003, 07:01 AM

For the record... I never hotlinked any pictures... I deep linked pages in the past, which means you're linking into a site skipping the front page. In those days not everybody had an index.html up, so it was just an 'index' of pictures. There were people very happy with that 'cause surfers played around with the URL and entered their site through that anyway. When webmasters started complaining about it I started to think it over... Deep linking is not illegal, but I realized it's very unethical to deep link to someone's index just 'cause that person forgot to upload an index.html and/or doesn't know how security works. At that point I stopped linking indexes.

Technically it wasn't illegal, but very unethically. As soon as I realized that it stopped. Most people make mistakes, some people learn from 'em... this was one that I learned from. Strange side-effect was that some of the people I linked in that fashion advertised with me realizing the amount of traffic I had on my site. But anyway, I don't think linking someone's indexes is a very ethical thing to do. The easy solution was uploading an index.html with a redirect to a signup page BTW. I didn't have the robots to check that in those days, so that could have made people some extra money. But anyway, that chapter is closed and over with. I didn't do anything illegal, but I realized it was unethical. I appologized to most of the parties in question. There weren't that many indexes linked. Most I links were paysite preview pages with an occasional index.

SquarePants · 02-06-2003, 07:11 AM

I have to say I have a lot of respect for the Hun. We had a Joke site when we started, newbie webmaster. Someone had submitted the Hun site as a link. We sent an email back saying we couldn't use the link because of the content. He replied and apologized

and if I remember he said many people did this stuff with submitting his link. Very cool guy

quiet · 02-06-2003, 07:20 AM

i remember the first time i got linked on the hun (a surfer submitted it without my knowledge), my hosting slowed to a crawl, and i got a silly amount of sales. after that, an idea (or rather, THE idea) was formed...

adamneve · 02-06-2003, 07:30 AM

the hun has to stay the hun let it be...

Raph · 02-06-2003, 07:56 AM

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Originally posted by adamneve
the hun has to stay the hun let it be...

okay, John.

rogerbo · 02-06-2003, 08:31 AM

Hey Nasty Jack, you looser will never learn ?
As always you have no idea about this Biz at al. You'r so fu..ng lasy that you must Steal link's from others ?
Beter be happy if the Hun lets you alone.

VIP · 02-06-2003, 12:14 PM

CumSensei · 02-09-2003, 08:33 AM

Thehun I got a confession to make

I been using oral galleries that have been submited to your site to fill up my own site www.cumdojo.com

Ofcourse not hotlinking them or shit but just submited them to my own site.

I really had no idea about how this worked before I read this post.

Since cumdojo.com just came online with posting galleries again I don´t have that many to post on a daily basis so I need to fill it up with galleries I find on other tgps....

Is it ok if I use the oral galleries that are posted to thehun?

If not I will stop this at ones.

I got to much pride to break the rules.

Please let me know Thehun.

I got much respect for your site.

CumSensei

AmeliaG · 02-09-2003, 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by The Hun
Funny... the page changed a LOT over the years. On the backend there are modifications made every day. The gallery layouts changed, the content changed. Niches came and went away again, The Yellow Pages always went with the flow of what was popular. Not that I had to keep an eye on that myself. Gallery builders build what make them money. And that's what they submit. So my site links to galleries and niches that are the most popular at that time.

I might be giving away a big secret here, but the ONLY thing that hasn't changed about my site is the way my ever changing content is presented. That has always been the same simple design. But people don't come to my site to see how good a webdesigner I am. If I hadn't changed over the years my site would have been inoperable by now. Especially the back-engine takes a lot of work. Not to speak of the robot. Graphics would make the site look good, but it wouldn't add anything to what people come to see. People want to see galleries... so I bring 'em galleries...

Now for the taking of links: it IS illegal. There is jurispondence (right spelling?) about that as well. There were cases in most countries about database protection. The only thing we had to prove in court is that my site is a database. And I think everybody will agree that it is just yet. So it's not the link individually that are protected by law, it's the collection itself.

A dictionary is copyrighted. Now everybody can speak the words in it without a problem, but if you take information from a dictionary with the goal to republish the content you're violating a database protection law. Same with my site. We copyrighted the collection as well to make everything a lot simpler. The Yellow Pages are registered and reckognized as a database. You can not take information from a database and reproduce it without autorisation from it's owner.

The spelling is jurisprudence if anyone here is dying to look it up and you are 100% correct. There are mountains of legal precedents set to protect the hard work of people such as yourself who compile data. A victory in civil court does indeed set a precedent and makes future victories in civil court more likely. So, folks, you probably won't go to jail for stealing all the links off of The Hun, but you sure could end up broke. All right, that is my lawyer-spawn post for the day.

--Amelia G

NastyJack · 02-09-2003, 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by CumSensei
Thehun I got a confession to make
I been using oral galleries that have been submited to your site to fill up my own site www.cumdojo.com
Ofcourse not hotlinking them or shit but just submited them to my own site.I really had no idea about how this worked before I read this post.Since cumdojo.com just came online with posting galleries again I don´t have that many to post on a daily basis so I need to fill it up with galleries I find on other tgps....

Is it ok if I use the oral galleries that are posted to thehun?
If not I will stop this at ones.
I got to much pride to break the rules.
Please let me know Thehun.
I got much respect for your site.
CumSensei

Hahaha.... You only have respect for people when it fits your bill.
Lets face it, you don't know anything about respect and I can prove it by linking all the trash you've been posting.

Respect.... hahaha.... your a real joke dude!

Regards
NastyJack

sumphatpimp · 02-09-2003, 01:30 PM

thehun writes each and every link himself, the reason being so he can copyright it as his own work.

please send him an email that you are copying his links, he makes a good living from sueing too !!!!!!

you are stealing bandwidth from the posting webmaster of that link.

never screw with someone elses work on the net, it only leads to trouble.

CumSensei · 02-09-2003, 01:50 PM

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Originally posted by NastyJack

Hahaha.... You only have respect for people when it fits your bill.
Lets face it, you don't know anything about respect and I can prove it by linking all the trash you've been posting.

Respect.... hahaha.... your a real joke dude!

Regards
NastyJack

NJ PLEASE!! Post any trash I posted.....

And I do have repect for the people that deserve my respect...you are not one of em ofcourse since you are all bullshit as most people can see.

I really don´t care about how big the webmaster in questions is but if they put alot of work into there stuff they do deserve respect.

And since I never thought of it this way and you learn new stuff every day I feelt I had to really go ahead and ask for permission to use the links he have....

I have emailed thehun and hope to get a answer soon....

And when I borrow links from him I make up my own descriptions and makes sure I only use the ones that fit my traffic so the webmaster might get a few extra signups.

And nastyjack please go back to sucking your bottle of wiskey so we don´t have to see you in this bizz nomore.

CumSensei

NastyJack · 02-09-2003, 01:58 PM

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Originally posted by sumphatpimp
thehun writes each and every link himself, the reason being so he can copyright it as his own work.please send him an email that you are copying his links, he makes a good living from sueing too !!!!!!

you are stealing bandwidth from the posting webmaster of that link.never screw with someone elses work on the net, it only leads to trouble.

Yea, until he made that clear to me I didn't realize that I was doing anything wrong.

Live and learn I guess.

Regards
NastyJack

Dopy · 02-09-2003, 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by Rictor
I love the weekly Hun threads.

Me too cos they are fuelled by the bot traders wondering why after 2 weeks they don't have 1 million+/day and a Ferrari in the drive

xxxinnovations · 02-09-2003, 03:33 PM

the shittier it looks, the bigger it will get

CumSensei · 02-09-2003, 08:07 PM

NJ...what happent to the trash I posted?

Hard to find anything?

Bobo · 02-09-2003, 09:02 PM

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Originally posted by quiet
i remember the first time i got linked on the hun (a surfer submitted it without my knowledge), my hosting slowed to a crawl, and i got a silly amount of sales. after that, an idea (or rather, THE idea) was formed...

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! KICKASS!

I remember recieving my first $25 check from AdultCheck. I couldn't believe it. I had given up on porn when the check came in the mail. I was like "It worked. It actually fucking worked!"

The rest, as they say, is history

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The Hun Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,207	20K of enhanced traffic? Times 1,616,774 uniques (currently showing on SexTracker, assuming EVERYBODY has their cache switched on), 32.335 Gbyte of transfer. That's 370 Kbytes per second... That's another 3 Mbit, assuming the load would be equal throughout the day (which it's not)... 3 Mbit for - only - 20K of graphics... check www.huncards.com, there are pretty good graphics, a lot more could be done, but I doubt it will make up the extra bandwidth that will be used.

02-06-2003, 07:01 AM	#119
The Hun Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,207	For the record... I never hotlinked any pictures... I deep linked pages in the past, which means you're linking into a site skipping the front page. In those days not everybody had an index.html up, so it was just an 'index' of pictures. There were people very happy with that 'cause surfers played around with the URL and entered their site through that anyway. When webmasters started complaining about it I started to think it over... Deep linking is not illegal, but I realized it's very unethical to deep link to someone's index just 'cause that person forgot to upload an index.html and/or doesn't know how security works. At that point I stopped linking indexes. Technically it wasn't illegal, but very unethically. As soon as I realized that it stopped. Most people make mistakes, some people learn from 'em... this was one that I learned from. Strange side-effect was that some of the people I linked in that fashion advertised with me realizing the amount of traffic I had on my site. But anyway, I don't think linking someone's indexes is a very ethical thing to do. The easy solution was uploading an index.html with a redirect to a signup page BTW. I didn't have the robots to check that in those days, so that could have made people some extra money. But anyway, that chapter is closed and over with. I didn't do anything illegal, but I realized it was unethical. I appologized to most of the parties in question. There weren't that many indexes linked. Most I links were paysite preview pages with an occasional index.

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SquarePants Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 408	I have to say I have a lot of respect for the Hun. We had a Joke site when we started, newbie webmaster. Someone had submitted the Hun site as a link. We sent an email back saying we couldn't use the link because of the content. He replied and apologized and if I remember he said many people did this stuff with submitting his link. Very cool guy

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CumSensei Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 3,986	Thehun I got a confession to make I been using oral galleries that have been submited to your site to fill up my own site www.cumdojo.com Ofcourse not hotlinking them or shit but just submited them to my own site. I really had no idea about how this worked before I read this post. Since cumdojo.com just came online with posting galleries again I don´t have that many to post on a daily basis so I need to fill it up with galleries I find on other tgps.... Is it ok if I use the oral galleries that are posted to thehun? If not I will stop this at ones. I got to much pride to break the rules. Please let me know Thehun. I got much respect for your site. CumSensei __________________ CumSensei say: SEO traffic makes big boom boom.

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