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porno jew · 11-04-2011, 09:56 AM

people are wary of giving money to, and trusting their business with, people they consider delusional.

that you can't see that, is ... delusional.

of course many people have eccentric beliefs but most keep them to themselves because it will effect their business.

spazlabz · 11-04-2011, 10:07 AM

I always felt that the people who said that any of the buildings coming down were controlled demolitions were... well deluded.

This a few weeks ago I watched this
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/911-e...rts-speak-out/

I respect experts in fields I know nothing about and quite a few of these men and women looked hesitant to to really tell what their conclusions are. But once you watch the video it will give you a reason to stop and wonder a bit

porno jew · 11-04-2011, 10:10 AM

ok now go read the counterpoints out there. there are many.

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Originally Posted by spazlabz

I always felt that the people who said that any of the buildings coming down were controlled demolitions were... well deluded.

This a few weeks ago I watched this
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/911-e...rts-speak-out/

I respect experts in fields I know nothing about and quite a few of these men and women looked hesitant to to really tell what their conclusions are. But once you watch the video it will give you a reason to stop and wonder a bit

MediaGuy · 11-04-2011, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew

people are wary of giving money to, and trusting their business with, people they consider delusional.

that you can't see that, is ... delusional.

of course many people have eccentric beliefs but most keep them to themselves because it will effect their business.

Fiddy nano-thermite tests!

And btw "people" can be considered delusional who believe in God, Allah, Yaweh, Wicca, Scientology and the like.

I consider "delusional" anyone who thinks the US Govt. story is true... or rather maybe just misinformed?

I also consider delusional anyone who thinks the HPV vaccine should be administered to children.

That's just my "belief".

So much of our perception of reality is pumped onto us by media that it's really a conundrum to base behaviour and reaction on those perceptions.

Mark Prince and myself have very different perceptions on a number of issues and "beliefs".

But we can still share a dog and a beer at a barbeque and have a good time. That hot dog, that beer, that back yard, are the only things that are "real" that we share. The rest is in our minds/hearts/souls.

I think me and you could be at that barbeque, and me and Warchild, and anyone else here who doesn't agree with all my perceptions of the world outside that backyard.

When you get down to it, that back yard is all that matters and unless someone's gonna bomb it or shoot it up because of a perceived conflict of perceptions, everybody should be welcome, tossing it back and tossing it around.

And business is dollars and cents, so what's good for you is good for me and if you keep your perceptions and beliefs to yourself as they should be then we're gonna have a good time.

And if you care to share your beliefs and perceptions with me, I can agree or disagree but I'll take them as they come: they don't affect the party unless you let them.

:D

wehateporn · 11-04-2011, 10:12 AM

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To me, Media Guy reflects badly on your company.

If it were only 1% believing in 9/11 'Conspiracies' then one might have to take it into consideration from a business point of view. These days the % is so high (and growing) it's not going to make a difference.

However, what will make a difference is if a person can keep their cool and always treat others with respect. I believe Media Guy does this, though I haven't read everyone of his posts. What we also see from Media Guy is that he doesn't give up, he keeps patiently and persistently chipping away; without a doubt postive characters traits.

Rochard · 11-04-2011, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MediaGuy

And btw "people" can be considered delusional who believe in God, Allah, Yaweh, Wicca, Scientology and the like.

I only believe in Wikipedia. But only on Tuesdays. Otherwise, I shop at Wal Mart late at night - but mostly because it's entertaining.

porno jew · 11-04-2011, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

What we also see from Media Guy is that he doesn't give up, he keeps patiently and persistently on chipping away; without a doubt postive characters traits.

persistence about delusional ideas is not a positive character trait. it usually is a cause for medication and hospitalization.

WarChild · 11-04-2011, 10:18 AM

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Oh and heads up btw you should give WebAir a call: http://www.teeniegirlgalleries.com/

:D

Long dead site. Many years in fact. Just keep it for the email.

wehateporn · 11-04-2011, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew

persistence about delusional ideas is not a positive character trait. it usually is a cause for medication and hospitalization.

Agreed, delusional ideas are not good at all. Media Guy tends to focus on empirical evidence, rather than ideas or beliefs

WarChild · 11-04-2011, 10:22 AM

Only the Adult industry would employees be allowed or encouraged to represent the companies they work for in such a way. I promise you it wouldn't be acceptable anywhere else. If a McDonalds employee started spouting off his religious beliefs and trying to convince people they were facts, they would be immediately removed from the position. Posting on GFY "Where The Adult Industry Meets" is absolutely no different.

You might have a point if he were offering what he thinks as oppinion. That's not the case though, is it? He's offering it as being fact. This alone calls in to question his judgment and by default the judgment of his employer.

If you're really in business and you want to do the most business you can, you don't allow your employees to spout off oppinion and claim it's a fact all the while representing your company and ultimately you personally. I have plenty of choices for cam options and having one of your employees run their mouth makes me skip considering yours all together. If you think I'm the only person with that mindset then I encourage you to ask around.

WarChild · 11-04-2011, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

Agreed, delusional ideas are not good at all. Media Guy tends to focus on empirical evidence, rather than ideas or beliefs

Here's the problem with you nut bars. You don't even understand what empirical evidence is because you've certainly offered none.

2MuchMark · 11-04-2011, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

I suppose that's one way of looking at it.

On the other hand, the way I see it is, I don't want to have anything to do with a company that has employees that may well interact with my account and mistakenly believe shit like this constitutes any kind of "proof". Your employees are a reflection of your company. To me, Media Guy reflects badly on your company.

To each their own I suppose.

WarChild,

Come on now, seriously? First, we're all lucky that Eric lets everyone here on GFY post their opinions on anything and everything. The fact that we are all in the adult entertainment industry gives us all common ground on which to base discussions on.

Since none of us here are are engineers, scientists etc involved in the investigation of the events of 9/11, all we can truly talk about, are our beliefs and opinions on the subject. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs, and as I said before, everyone else is free to challenge them on it. (Critical thinking!)

If you don't like the opinions that Mediaguy has on 9/11, fair enough, but don't judge him (or me or my company or my product) solely on those opinions. Business or product worthiness need not include topics of spirited discussions such as 9/11, religion or politics. I certainly would not dismiss your business or product for any of your opinions. For example, you forgot to renew your domain name, your avatar contains a copyright image you do not own, and your moto suggests that you are a war monger. Should we never consider doing business with you based on these 3 observations?

Regards,

spazlabz · 11-04-2011, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew

ok now go read the counterpoints out there. there are many.

I have to ask if you actually watched the video I linked to. They take on a lot of counter arguments. I am not saying I believe any of it, but it does give me pause for thought and maybe more than a little doubt about trusting the official story as provided to us by NIST

porno jew · 11-04-2011, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

Agreed, delusional ideas are not good at all. Media Guy tends to focus on empirical evidence, rather than ideas or beliefs

if you you knew what empirical evidence was this thread wouldn't exist.

porno jew · 11-04-2011, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by spazlabz

I have to ask if you actually watched the video I linked to. They take on a lot of counter arguments. I am not saying I believe any of it, but it does give me pause for thought and maybe more than a little doubt about trusting the official story as provided to us by NIST

i've studied and read the theories for a decade now. this is nothing new.

wehateporn · 11-04-2011, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

Only the Adult industry would employees be allowed or encouraged to represent the companies they work for in such a way. I promise you it wouldn't be acceptable anywhere else. If a McDonalds employee started spouting off his religious beliefs and trying to convince people they were facts, they would be immediately removed from the position. Posting on GFY "Where The Adult Industry Meets" is absolutely no different.

You might have a point if he were offering what he thinks as oppinion. That's not the case though, is it? He's offering it as being fact. This alone calls in to question his judgment and by default the judgment of his employer.

We should all be grateful that the Thought Police haven't taken over here yet, like on Facebook where software automatically delete revealing quotes from the Bankers

MediaGuy · 11-04-2011, 10:27 AM

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Long dead site. Many years in fact. Just keep it for the email.

Ok, it's just that it's in your "homepage" link so I thought maybe it ran out. I had domains die recently because I upgraded to "grid hosting" whatever that is and something went south during the "upgrade" but luckily a follower let me know...

:D

SmokeyTheBear · 11-04-2011, 10:27 AM

hate to bring this up but i think many people are confused as to what criminal "conspiracy" means.

"an agreement between persons to break the law in the future, in some cases having committed an act to further that agreement"

the official explanation of 9/11 is that it was a conspiracy. The only way 9/11 wouldn't be a conspiracy is if one man hijacked all 4 planes or if all the other terrorists had no idea what was going on.

WarChild · 11-04-2011, 10:28 AM

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Your government has actually provided little or no proof of their version of their story...

My government? What is my government?>

WarChild · 11-04-2011, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

We should all be grateful that the Thought Police haven't taken over here yet, like on Facebook where software automatically delete revealing quotes from the Bankers

It's obvious you have little to no life experience. It has nothing to do with thought police no matter how easily that fits in to your silly mindset.

Your theories are wild and completely unsubstantiated. I'll no more argue with you and your absurd notion that the UN is a vast conspiracy hell bent on ruling the average person than I would argue with somebody who believed the Earth was flat or the Moon made of cheese. It's absurd on the face and I won't validate your nonsense by trying to educate you.

2MuchMark · 11-04-2011, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew

people are wary of giving money to, and trusting their business with, people they consider delusional.

that you can't see that, is ... delusional.

of course many people have eccentric beliefs but most keep them to themselves because it will effect their business.

PornoJew: Do you believe in God?

porno jew · 11-04-2011, 10:45 AM

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PornoJew: Do you believe in God?

what does that have to do with anything?

WarChild · 11-04-2011, 10:48 AM

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PornoJew: Do you believe in God?

The answer to that question in relation to this conversation would only be relevant if he were here representing a company and pushing his belief on the matter one way or the other. That's clearly not the case here.

MediaGuy · 11-04-2011, 10:48 AM

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My government? What is my government?>

Sorry, I was assuming you were US-based.

My mistake :D

But probably your government and most governments who are subject to US domination or subvention subscribe to the same myth.

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mayabong · 11-04-2011, 10:49 AM

This guy talks about how the WTC's were powered down before 911 with a complete breakdown of security. Poor guy still thinks it was muslims though. lol

Rochard · 11-04-2011, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

Only the Adult industry would employees be allowed or encouraged to represent the companies they work for in such a way. I promise you it wouldn't be acceptable anywhere else. If a McDonalds employee started spouting off his religious beliefs and trying to convince people they were facts, they would be immediately removed from the position. Posting on GFY "Where The Adult Industry Meets" is absolutely no different.

You might have a point if he were offering what he thinks as oppinion. That's not the case though, is it? He's offering it as being fact. This alone calls in to question his judgment and by default the judgment of his employer.

If you're really in business and you want to do the most business you can, you don't allow your employees to spout off oppinion and claim it's a fact all the while representing your company and ultimately you personally. I have plenty of choices for cam options and having one of your employees run their mouth makes me skip considering yours all together. If you think I'm the only person with that mindset then I encourage you to ask around.

So what are you saying? That doctor's don't go to medical conventions and have dicussions about 9/11 or OWS? Don't be silly. People have opinions.

MediaGuy · 11-04-2011, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

It's obvious you have little to no life experience. It has nothing to do with thought police no matter how easily that fits in to your silly mindset.

Your theories are wild and completely unsubstantiated. I'll no more argue with you and your absurd notion that the UN is a vast conspiracy hell bent on ruling the average person than I would argue with somebody who believed the Earth was flat or the Moon made of cheese. It's absurd on the face and I won't validate your nonsense by trying to educate you.

No one is asking for you to educate them.

But if you believe what the govenrment says is true, link us up.

If you believe my posts about government foreknowledge and those science-based experiments are false, link us up.

Calling me a [bad word for black person] because I'm black deny the fact that I am human, after all...

:D

12clicks · 11-04-2011, 10:54 AM

ah ha!

so giant jet planes filled with fuel did NOT hit the towers.

shit, now I understand.

WarChild · 11-04-2011, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MediaGuy

Sorry, I was assuming you were US-based.

Wow I'd never have pegged you for somebody that runs with wild assumptions. Imagine my surprise.

WarChild · 11-04-2011, 10:55 AM

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So what are you saying? That doctor's don't go to medical conventions and have dicussions about 9/11 or OWS? Don't be silly. People have opinions.

Doctors don't go to work in a hospital and push their beliefs as fact on patients. If they did, they'd be looking for new employment quickly.

Try to keep up.

MediaGuy · 11-04-2011, 10:59 AM

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ah ha!

so giant jet planes filled with fuel did NOT hit the towers.

shit, now I understand.

Who talked about that? Read the thread.

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Wow I'd never have pegged you for somebody that runs with wild assumptions. Imagine my surprise.

We are, as I mentioned before, all human after all. And I apologized.

What I posted about 9/11 wasn't wild or an assumption though, and if you watch it with an open mind, it certainly debunks what debunkers "demonstrated" about thermite not being able to cut steel girders....

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2MuchMark · 11-04-2011, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

Only the Adult industry would employees be allowed or encouraged to represent the companies they work for in such a way.

What Mediaguy believes and what I believe are 2 different things. Furthermore discussions on 9/11 have nothing at all to do with our company.

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Originally Posted by WarChild

I promise you it wouldn't be acceptable anywhere else.

I completely agree with you. Isn't it cool that he's allowed to speak his mind?

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Originally Posted by WarChild

If a McDonalds employee started spouting off his religious beliefs and trying to convince people they were facts, they would be immediately removed from the position. Posting on GFY "Where The Adult Industry Meets" is absolutely no different.

Again, I agree with you. McDonalds would definitely fire that guy. Then again, this forum and this industry, is very different. In adult, different ideas, niches, marketing (such as the bloody penis in the "we sell virgins" banner, is encouraged.

And besides, who would you prefer dealing with. Someone who lies and says they accept the government's version of 9/11 (and every other issue such as "proof" of WMD's in Iraq), just so they could keep their job? Or do you want someone who tells you the truth about what they believe? I'll take the later every time.

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Originally Posted by WarChild

You might have a point if he were offering what he thinks as oppinion. That's not the case though, is it? He's offering it as being fact. This alone calls in to question his judgment and by default the judgment of his employer.

Ok, I will meet you part way on this one. I personally use the word OPINION over FACT when saying something I'm not 100% sure about. However, I would think that by not asking him to censor himself on his opinions might make me seem like a better employer, not a worse one. (Yes thats an opinion, not a fact, so feel free to disagree).

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Originally Posted by WarChild

If you're really in business and you want to do the most business you can, you don't allow your employees to spout off oppinion and claim it's a fact all the while representing your company and ultimately you personally.

If he was being interviewed about our product by a magazine or newspaper then I would definately make sure that everything remained on topic. But this is a thread on a friend forum, that Mediaguy started. All comments and ideas are by default welcomed (and by default should be expected) by the thread starter. You saw his name when you clicked in. If you don't like him, why click in?

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Originally Posted by WarChild

I have plenty of choices for cam options and having one of your employees run their mouth makes me skip considering yours all together. If you think I'm the only person with that mindset then I encourage you to ask around.

I am sorry to hear you say that and I sincerely hope you change your mind. You may like our product very much even if you don't like mediaguy. And if you prefer not to deal with him, I would gladly provide all the support you require myself, and even send you my cellphone # for after hours emergencies.

Cheers!

2MuchMark · 11-04-2011, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

The answer to that question in relation to this conversation would only be relevant if he were here representing a company and pushing his belief on the matter one way or the other. That's clearly not the case here.

Or, are you refusing to answer because you think it might result in less business for you?

2MuchMark · 11-04-2011, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

We should all be grateful that the Thought Police haven't taken over here yet, like on Facebook where software automatically delete revealing quotes from the Bankers

Exactly.

2MuchMark · 11-04-2011, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew

persistence about delusional ideas is not a positive character trait. it usually is a cause for medication and hospitalization.

PornoJew: Do you believe in God? I ask because I'm assuming that you are Jewish, and you think that some of Rambam's 13 Principles of the Jewish faith are that a Messiah will come to end all evil in the world, that the dead will be resurrected, and that Prayer must be directed at this God alone, dismissing all other Gods, etc. Isn't it possible that someone outside of the Jewish faith might see these as delusional ideas, or a weak character trait? Should that person then be considered representative of the whole company he works for when he speaks or defends those beliefs?

Of course not.

The point I'm trying to make is, just relax. I don't judge and I really hope no one else does either. If you don't like Mediaguy's rants, tell him to Shut the Fuck Up already, or laugh at him, it doesn't matter. Just have fun already.

Have a good weekend.

MediaGuy · 11-04-2011, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

If you're really in business and you want to do the most business you can, you don't allow your employees to spout off oppinion and claim it's a fact all the while representing your company and ultimately you personally. I have plenty of choices for cam options and having one of your employees run their mouth makes me skip considering yours all together. If you think I'm the only person with that mindset then I encourage you to ask around.

I didn't claim anything as a fact, though I exaggerated in the title line - and in fact was ironically contradicting what I believe.

My opinion that you (correctly) inferred is based on my examination of facts, which I very partially provided.
:D

WarChild · 11-04-2011, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MediaGuy

No one is asking for you to educate them.

But if you believe what the govenrment says is true, link us up.

If you believe my posts about government foreknowledge and those science-based experiments are false, link us up.

Calling me a [bad word for black person] because I'm black deny the fact that I am human, after all...

:D

I'm not going to link you up to anything. I'm not going to have a debate with you about 9/11 period. It's the digital equivalent of pissing in to the wind. There's no benefit to me , I could care less what you believe to be true and your thoughts on the matter will never have an affect on me.

MediaGuy · 11-04-2011, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

I'm not going to link you up to anything. I'm not going to have a debate with you about 9/11 period. It's the digital equivalent of pissing in to the wind. There's no benefit to me , I could care less what you believe to be true and your thoughts on the matter will never have an affect on me.

Alrighty then. Thanks for "contributing".

mayabong · 11-04-2011, 11:15 AM

mayabong · 11-04-2011, 11:16 AM

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Surprising that you never see any Hollywood films about these two incidents.

Maybe Mel Gibson can make a USS liberty movie.

WarChild · 11-04-2011, 11:16 AM

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What Mediaguy believes and what I believe are 2 different things. Furthermore discussions on 9/11 have nothing at all to do with our company.

I completely agree with you. Isn't it cool that he's allowed to speak his mind?

Again, I agree with you. McDonalds would definitely fire that guy. Then again, this forum and this industry, is very different. In adult, different ideas, niches, marketing (such as the bloody penis in the "we sell virgins" banner, is encouraged.

And besides, who would you prefer dealing with. Someone who lies and says they accept the government's version of 9/11 (and every other issue such as "proof" of WMD's in Iraq), just so they could keep their job? Or do you want someone who tells you the truth about what they believe? I'll take the later every time.

Ok, I will meet you part way on this one. I personally use the word OPINION over FACT when saying something I'm not 100% sure about. However, I would think that by not asking him to censor himself on his opinions might make me seem like a better employer, not a worse one. (Yes thats an opinion, not a fact, so feel free to disagree).

If he was being interviewed about our product by a magazine or newspaper then I would definately make sure that everything remained on topic. But this is a thread on a friend forum, that Mediaguy started. All comments and ideas are by default welcomed (and by default should be expected) by the thread starter. You saw his name when you clicked in. If you don't like him, why click in?

I am sorry to hear you say that and I sincerely hope you change your mind. You may like our product very much even if you don't like mediaguy. And if you prefer not to deal with him, I would gladly provide all the support you require myself, and even send you my cellphone # for after hours emergencies.

Cheers!

Fair enough. It's your business and I won't presume to tell you how to run it. I honestly wish you the best of luck in this business and any other you persue. I just wanted to point something out that perhaps you had not thought of.

2MuchMark · 11-04-2011, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

It's the digital equivalent of pissing in to the wind. There's no benefit to me , I could care less what you believe to be true and your thoughts on the matter will never have an affect on me.

EXACTLY right. Fighting on forums is really pointless. Debate all you want but just have some fun with it..

Have a good weekend.

2MuchMark · 11-04-2011, 11:48 AM

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Fair enough. It's your business and I won't presume to tell you how to run it. I honestly wish you the best of luck in this business and any other you persue. I just wanted to point something out that perhaps you had not thought of.

I had thought of it, yes, but I still appreciate your pointing it out to me. I really hope you won't hold it against us or take this too seriously.

Best,

MediaGuy · 11-04-2011, 12:03 PM

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LOL Love that video - I wish there was a transcript.

:D

Dirty F · 11-06-2011, 12:43 AM

Mediaguy, you are one of the biggest fucking retards on this board.

TheSquealer · 11-06-2011, 05:41 AM

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I don't judge and I really hope no one else does either. If you don't like Mediaguy's rants, tell him to Shut the Fuck Up already, or laugh at him, it doesn't matter. Just have fun already.

Have a good weekend.

What you are not understanding or willfully ignoring is that his behavior reflects poorly on you and your business. Having an employee running around screaming "i'm a 3000 year old wizard" or "I can lift a building with my mind" or anything that shows that he has no appropriate sense of boundaries with his behaviors and beliefs, cannot distinguish between reasonable and unreasonable and who continually demonstrates that he has a weak grasp on reality is never going to serve you well in business representative.

This is particularly true when his beliefs, delusions, denial and compulsive need to express them are indicating that he is suffering from some sort of metal and/or personality disorder.

Opinion is one thing. There is also reasonable and unreasonable, healthy and unhealthy. "Obama is a great guy" is an opinion. "Obama is a unicorn and I have conclusive proof and everything you say to refute it is wrong because its all part of the governments conspiracy to fool you and you just dont get it because you are sheep"... is not an "opinion" and not healthy and is a strong indicator of some pretty deep mental issues that ought be addressed as that person has clearly become completely unhinged.

Thinking that you aren't judged for who you are, what you are, how you act and the things you say is ignorant. Everything you do is a reflection on you as a person. Everything your employees do and say is a reflection on you, on them, on your products, on your business and your own judgement as a business person.

Do you genuinely believe that people are going to do business with someone they can clearly see is delusional and has no real grasp on reality... and that clearly believes anyone who does not see the world in the same way he does is someone who is less intelligent than he is?

wehateporn · 11-06-2011, 05:53 AM

It's your opinion that 9/11 Truthers are delusional and you're entitled to that. It's a belief of yours that is not based on empirical data, similar to a religious belief

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What you are not understanding or willfully ignoring is that his behavior reflects poorly on you and your business. Having an employee running around screaming "i'm a 3000 year old wizard" or "I can lift a building with my mind" or anything that shows that he has no appropriate sense of boundaries with his behaviors and beliefs, cannot distinguish between reasonable and unreasonable and who continually demonstrates that he has a weak grasp on reality is never going to serve you well in business representative.

This is particularly true when his beliefs, delusions, denial and compulsive need to express them are indicating that he is suffering from some sort of metal and/or personality disorder.

Opinion is one thing. There is also reasonable and unreasonable, healthy and unhealthy. "Obama is a great guy" is an opinion. "Obama is a unicorn and I have conclusive proof and everything you say to refute it is wrong because its all part of the governments conspiracy to fool you and you just dont get it because you are sheep"... is not an "opinion" and not healthy and is a strong indicator of some pretty deep mental issues that ought be addressed as that person has clearly become completely unhinged.

Thinking that you aren't judged for who you are, what you are, how you act and the things you say is ignorant. Everything you do is a reflection on you as a person. Everything your employees do and say is a reflection on you, on them, on your products, on your business and your own judgement as a business person.

Do you genuinely believe that people are going to do business with someone they can clearly see is delusional and has no real grasp on reality... and that clearly believes anyone who does not see the world in the same way he does is someone who is less intelligent than he is?

TheSquealer · 11-06-2011, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

It's your opinion that 9/11 Truthers are delusional and you're entitled to that. It's a belief of yours that is not based on empirical data, similar to a religious belief

Even the name itself "truthers", which you chose to use, is a refection how you and yours choose to characterize yourselves as champions for justice your own beliefs/"conclusions" as being the only truth and as such, "right", which also implies that everyone that doesn't agree with you are wrong. Truth/Lie. With no middle ground.

It's not about empirical evidence. It's about mentally ill people who found a new JFK and new catalyst for the expression of paranoid delusions directed at the ultimate authority.

Notice... "learn the truth" ... not "lets all take an objective look at empirical evidence and reach our own conclusions which we each shall respect as opinion"

Frank21 · 11-06-2011, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

It's obvious you have little to no life experience. It has nothing to do with thought police no matter how easily that fits in to your silly mindset.

Your theories are wild and completely unsubstantiated. I'll no more argue with you and your absurd notion that the UN is a vast conspiracy hell bent on ruling the average person It's absurd on the face and I won't validate your nonsense by trying to educate you.

It apears to me that you have never researched the people and the history of the UN and its founders.
Let me post just a very small list of quotes of your heros.

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Quote by Ted Turner, billionaire, founder of CNN and major UN donor, and large CO2 producer: ?A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.?

Quote by David Foreman, co-founder of Earth First!: ?My three main goals would be to reduce human population to about 100 million worldwide, destroy the industrial infrastructure and see wilderness, with it?s full complement of species, returning throughout the world.?

Quote by David Brower, a founder of the Sierra Club: "Childbearing should be a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license. All potential parents should be required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing."

Quote by Club of Rome: "...the resultant ideal sustainable population is hence more than 500 million people but less than one billion."

Quote by Susan Blakemore, a UK Guardian science journalist: "For the planet?s sake, I hope we have bird flu or some other thing that will reduce the population, because otherwise we?re doomed."

Quote by Paul Ehrlich, professor, Stanford University: "The addition of a temporary sterilant to staple food, or to the water supply. With limited distribution of antidote chemicals, perhaps by lottery".

Quote by Prince Philip, royal billionaire, married to Queen Elizabeth II, and large CO2 producer: "I don't claim to have any special interest in natural history, but as a boy I was made aware of the annual fluctuations in the number of game animals and the need to adjust the cull to the size of the surplus population."

Quote by Bill Gates, Microsoft billionaire, and large CO2 producer: "The world today has 6.8 billion people...that's headed up to about 9 billion. If we do a really great job on vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 to 15

Quote by Jacques Cousteau, mega-celebrity French scientist: "In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 per day."

Quote by UN Commission on Global Biodiversity Assessment: "A reasonable estimate for an industrialized world society at the present North American material standard of living would be 1 billion. At the more frugal European standard of living, 2 to 3 billion would be possible."

Quote by John Miller, a NOAA climate scientist: "I would be remiss, as a scientist who studied this, if I didn't mention the following two things: The first is that, most importantly, we need to do, as a society, in this country and globally, whatever we can to reduce population"....."Our whole economic system is based on growth, and growth of our population, and this economic madness has to end."

Quote by John Davis, editor of Earth First! journal: "I suspect that eradicating small pox was wrong. It played an important part in balancing ecosystems."

Quote by Prince Philip, royal billionaire, married to Queen Elizabeth II, and large CO2 producer: "If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to Earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels."

Quote by Ingrid Newkirk, a former PETA President: ?The extinction of Homo Sapiens would mean survival for millions, if not billions, of Earth-dwelling species. Phasing out the human race will solve every problem on Earth - social and environmental.?

Quote by Ted Turner, billionaire, founder of CNN and major UN donor, and large CO2 producer: "There are too many people, that's why we have global warming. We have global warming because too many people are using too much stuff."

Quote by James Lovelock, known as founder of 'Gaia' concept: "The big threat to the planet is people: there are too many, doing too well economically and burning too much oil."

Quote by Nina Vsevolod Fedoroff, science advisor to U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton: ?There are probably already too many people on the planet.?

Quote by Al Gore, former U.S. vice president, mega-millionaire, and large CO2 producer: "Third world nations are producing too many children too fast...it is time to ignore the controversy over family planning and cut out-of-control population growth..."

Quote by Susan Blakemore, a UK Guardian science journalist: "Finally, we might decide that civilisation itself is worth preserving. In that case we have to work out what to save and which people would be needed in a drastically reduced population ? weighing the value of scientists and musicians against that of politicians, for example."

Quote by David Foreman, co-founder of Earth First!: "We advocate biodiversity for biodiversity?s sake. It may take our extinction to set things straight."

Quote by Ottmar Edenhoffer, high level UN-IPCC official: "We redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy...Basically it's a big mistake to discuss climate policy separately from the major themes of globalization...One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore."

Quote by Timoth Wirth, U.S./UN functionary, former elected Democrat Senator: ?We?ve got to ride the global-warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic policy and environmental policy.?

Quote by Richard Benedik, former U.S./UN bureaucrat: "A global climate treaty must be implemented even if there is no scientific evidence to back the greenhouse effect."

Quote from the UN's Own "Agenda 21": "Effective execution of Agenda 21 will require a profound reorientation of all human society, unlike anything the world has ever experienced a major shift in the priorities of both governments and individuals and an unprecedented redeployment of human and financial resources. This shift will demand that a concern for the environmental consequences of every human action be integrated into individual and collective decision-making at every level."

Quote by Maurice Strong, a billionaire elitist, primary power behind UN throne, and large CO2 producer: ?Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about??

Quote by Lester Brown, founder of the Worldwatch Institute, and founder and president of the Earth Policy Institute: "Nations are in effect ceding portions of their sovereignty to the international community and beginning to create a new system of international environmental governance."

Quote by Dixy Lee Ray, former liberal Democrat governor of State of Washington, U.S.: "The objective, clearly enunciated by the leaders of UNCED, is to bring about a change in the present system of independent nations. The future is to be World Government with central planning by the United Nations. Fear of environmental crises - whether real or not - is expected to lead to ? compliance?

Quote by Michael Oppenheimer, major environmentalist: "The only hope for the world is to make sure there is not another United States. We can't let other countries have the same number of cars, the amount of industrialization, we have in the US. We have to stop these Third World countries right where they are."

WarChild · 11-06-2011, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank21

Let me post just a very small list of quotes of your heros.

My "heros"? The fact that you just jump to wild assumptions to back up your zaney positions speaks volumes about your personality.

11-04-2011, 10:22 AM	#60
WarChild Let slip the dogs of war. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bermuda Posts: 17,263	Only the Adult industry would employees be allowed or encouraged to represent the companies they work for in such a way. I promise you it wouldn't be acceptable anywhere else. If a McDonalds employee started spouting off his religious beliefs and trying to convince people they were facts, they would be immediately removed from the position. Posting on GFY "Where The Adult Industry Meets" is absolutely no different. You might have a point if he were offering what he thinks as oppinion. That's not the case though, is it? He's offering it as being fact. This alone calls in to question his judgment and by default the judgment of his employer. If you're really in business and you want to do the most business you can, you don't allow your employees to spout off oppinion and claim it's a fact all the while representing your company and ultimately you personally. I have plenty of choices for cam options and having one of your employees run their mouth makes me skip considering yours all together. If you think I'm the only person with that mindset then I encourage you to ask around. __________________ . Last edited by WarChild; 11-04-2011 at 10:25 AM..

11-04-2011, 10:27 AM	#68
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	hate to bring this up but i think many people are confused as to what criminal "conspiracy" means. "an agreement between persons to break the law in the future, in some cases having committed an act to further that agreement" the official explanation of 9/11 is that it was a conspiracy. The only way 9/11 wouldn't be a conspiracy is if one man hijacked all 4 planes or if all the other terrorists had no idea what was going on. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

11-04-2011, 10:49 AM	#75
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11-04-2011, 10:54 AM	#78
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,785	ah ha! so giant jet planes filled with fuel did NOT hit the towers. shit, now I understand. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

11-04-2011, 11:15 AM	#89
mayabong Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,952	__________________ Bitcoin Gambling Sites

11-04-2011, 09:56 AM	#51
porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,166	people are wary of giving money to, and trusting their business with, people they consider delusional. that you can't see that, is ... delusional. of course many people have eccentric beliefs but most keep them to themselves because it will effect their business.

11-04-2011, 10:07 AM	#52
spazlabz Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Kentucky Posts: 6,548	I always felt that the people who said that any of the buildings coming down were controlled demolitions were... well deluded. This a few weeks ago I watched this http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/911-e...rts-speak-out/ I respect experts in fields I know nothing about and quite a few of these men and women looked hesitant to to really tell what their conclusions are. But once you watch the video it will give you a reason to stop and wonder a bit

11-06-2011, 12:43 AM	#95
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Mediaguy, you are one of the biggest fucking retards on this board.