PROOF That The Towers Weren't Destroyed - Over and Over

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  • Dirty F
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jul 2001
    • 59204

    #46
    What a fucking retard this guy is. Unbelievable.

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    • 2MuchMark
      Mark of 2Much.net
      • Aug 2004
      • 50968

      #47
      Originally posted by TheSquealer
      Gee...can't imagine why after what?... 10 years or so, this company isn't a raging success and the default video chat solution. I mean, after all, its ran by such normal, well rounded and intelligent people.
      Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs and hobbies.

      I have more than a passing interest in science, physics (even Astrophysics) so when Mediaguy says the words "controlled demolition", I start calling up everything that I think I know and challenge him on it. To me it looks like a collapse, and nothing at all like a controlled demolition. Mediaguy believes just the opposite, which in turn begins yet another spirited debate on the subject. I'll never agree with him (nor he with me), but 9/11 Conspiracy theories are fun to talk about, and for me anyway, creates a lot of critical thinking.

      So of course Squealer, we've had some missteps business-wise, and business for us is slower these days just as I'm sure it is for many others here. Try not to dismiss media guy (or our product and services) for his thoughts on 9/11. I certainly don't. Instead, if you're interested, challenge his ideas, enjoy the conversations and arguments, and do some research and draw your own conclusions.

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      • WarChild
        Let slip the dogs of war.
        • Jan 2003
        • 17263

        #48
        Originally posted by MarkPrince
        Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs and hobbies.

        I have more than a passing interest in science, physics (even Astrophysics) so when Mediaguy says the words "controlled demolition", I start calling up everything that I think I know and challenge him on it. To me it looks like a collapse, and nothing at all like a controlled demolition. Mediaguy believes just the opposite, which in turn begins yet another spirited debate on the subject. I'll never agree with him (nor he with me), but 9/11 Conspiracy theories are fun to talk about, and for me anyway, creates a lot of critical thinking.

        So of course Squealer, we've had some missteps business-wise, and business for us is slower these days just as I'm sure it is for many others here. Try not to dismiss media guy (or our product and services) for his thoughts on 9/11. I certainly don't. Instead, if you're interested, challenge his ideas, enjoy the conversations and arguments, and do some research and draw your own conclusions.
        I suppose that's one way of looking at it.

        On the other hand, the way I see it is, I don't want to have anything to do with a company that has employees that may well interact with my account and mistakenly believe shit like this constitutes any kind of "proof". Your employees are a reflection of your company. To me, Media Guy reflects badly on your company.

        To each their own I suppose.
        Last edited by WarChild; 11-04-2011, 08:14 AM.
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        • MediaGuy
          Confirmed User
          • Sep 2004
          • 5500

          #49
          Originally posted by WarChild
          I suppose that's one way of looking at it.

          On the other hand, the way I see it is, I don't want to have anything to do with a company that has employees that may well interact with my account and mistakenly believe shit like this constitutes any kind of "proof". Your employees are a reflection of your company. To me, Media Guy reflects badly on your company.

          To each their own I suppose.
          Your government has actually provided little or no proof of their version of their story, much along the lines of the Iraq WMDs or that little "nurse" who testified that Hussein's soldiers were yanking babies out of nurseries in the first Gulf war back in the 90s.

          I do my research and come to what I now contend from some evidentiary basis, to my way of seeing things.

          I believe that my conclusions are sound, and relate them without guile and to the risk of my credibility or personal reputation based on personal ethics and judgement.

          In no way would this or that affect my "interaction" with your account or allow anything outside of dollars and cents permit me to treat you with anything less than full respect for your beliefs, business or bullshit. Even in these forums I don't call names or react harshly or without providing benefit of the doubt and room to question.

          Ask Rochard, my sparring partner ;)

          Let's say I believe in a woman's choice on abortion, and that's not your credence... would you think that reflects badly on us?

          Do you think investing in 2much.net would be endorsing any beliefs that aren't yours, pro or con? Could you really conduct business with anyone in the world if it had to be based on their full set of beliefs and philosophy matching yours?

          Get a better reason. No, actually, get a reason.

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          • MediaGuy
            Confirmed User
            • Sep 2004
            • 5500

            #50
            Originally posted by WarChild
            To each their own I suppose.
            Oh and heads up btw you should give WebAir a call: http://www.teeniegirlgalleries.com/

            :D

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            • porno jew
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Nov 2006
              • 10166

              #51
              people are wary of giving money to, and trusting their business with, people they consider delusional.

              that you can't see that, is ... delusional.

              of course many people have eccentric beliefs but most keep them to themselves because it will effect their business.

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              • spazlabz
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2003
                • 6548

                #52
                I always felt that the people who said that any of the buildings coming down were controlled demolitions were... well deluded.

                This a few weeks ago I watched this
                http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/911-e...rts-speak-out/

                I respect experts in fields I know nothing about and quite a few of these men and women looked hesitant to to really tell what their conclusions are. But once you watch the video it will give you a reason to stop and wonder a bit

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                • porno jew
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 10166

                  #53
                  ok now go read the counterpoints out there. there are many.

                  Originally posted by spazlabz
                  I always felt that the people who said that any of the buildings coming down were controlled demolitions were... well deluded.

                  This a few weeks ago I watched this
                  http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/911-e...rts-speak-out/

                  I respect experts in fields I know nothing about and quite a few of these men and women looked hesitant to to really tell what their conclusions are. But once you watch the video it will give you a reason to stop and wonder a bit

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                  • MediaGuy
                    Confirmed User
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 5500

                    #54
                    Originally posted by porno jew
                    people are wary of giving money to, and trusting their business with, people they consider delusional.

                    that you can't see that, is ... delusional.

                    of course many people have eccentric beliefs but most keep them to themselves because it will effect their business.
                    Fiddy nano-thermite tests!

                    And btw "people" can be considered delusional who believe in God, Allah, Yaweh, Wicca, Scientology and the like.

                    I consider "delusional" anyone who thinks the US Govt. story is true... or rather maybe just misinformed?

                    I also consider delusional anyone who thinks the HPV vaccine should be administered to children.

                    That's just my "belief".

                    So much of our perception of reality is pumped onto us by media that it's really a conundrum to base behaviour and reaction on those perceptions.

                    Mark Prince and myself have very different perceptions on a number of issues and "beliefs".

                    But we can still share a dog and a beer at a barbeque and have a good time. That hot dog, that beer, that back yard, are the only things that are "real" that we share. The rest is in our minds/hearts/souls.

                    I think me and you could be at that barbeque, and me and Warchild, and anyone else here who doesn't agree with all my perceptions of the world outside that backyard.

                    When you get down to it, that back yard is all that matters and unless someone's gonna bomb it or shoot it up because of a perceived conflict of perceptions, everybody should be welcome, tossing it back and tossing it around.

                    And business is dollars and cents, so what's good for you is good for me and if you keep your perceptions and beliefs to yourself as they should be then we're gonna have a good time.

                    And if you care to share your beliefs and perceptions with me, I can agree or disagree but I'll take them as they come: they don't affect the party unless you let them.

                    :D

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                    • wehateporn
                      Promoting Debate on GFY
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 27176

                      #55
                      Originally posted by WarChild
                      To me, Media Guy reflects badly on your company.
                      If it were only 1% believing in 9/11 'Conspiracies' then one might have to take it into consideration from a business point of view. These days the % is so high (and growing) it's not going to make a difference.

                      However, what will make a difference is if a person can keep their cool and always treat others with respect. I believe Media Guy does this, though I haven't read everyone of his posts. What we also see from Media Guy is that he doesn't give up, he keeps patiently and persistently chipping away; without a doubt postive characters traits.
                      Last edited by wehateporn; 11-04-2011, 09:13 AM.

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                      • Rochard
                        Jägermeister Test Pilot
                        • Dec 2001
                        • 75733

                        #56
                        Originally posted by MediaGuy

                        And btw "people" can be considered delusional who believe in God, Allah, Yaweh, Wicca, Scientology and the like.
                        I only believe in Wikipedia. But only on Tuesdays. Otherwise, I shop at Wal Mart late at night - but mostly because it's entertaining.
                        Herschel Savage
                        Brooklyn, NY

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                        • porno jew
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 10166

                          #57
                          Originally posted by wehateporn
                          What we also see from Media Guy is that he doesn't give up, he keeps patiently and persistently on chipping away; without a doubt postive characters traits.
                          persistence about delusional ideas is not a positive character trait. it usually is a cause for medication and hospitalization.

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                          • WarChild
                            Let slip the dogs of war.
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 17263

                            #58
                            Originally posted by MediaGuy
                            Oh and heads up btw you should give WebAir a call: http://www.teeniegirlgalleries.com/

                            :D
                            Long dead site. Many years in fact. Just keep it for the email.
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                            • wehateporn
                              Promoting Debate on GFY
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 27176

                              #59
                              Originally posted by porno jew
                              persistence about delusional ideas is not a positive character trait. it usually is a cause for medication and hospitalization.
                              Agreed, delusional ideas are not good at all. Media Guy tends to focus on empirical evidence, rather than ideas or beliefs

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                              • WarChild
                                Let slip the dogs of war.
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 17263

                                #60
                                Only the Adult industry would employees be allowed or encouraged to represent the companies they work for in such a way. I promise you it wouldn't be acceptable anywhere else. If a McDonalds employee started spouting off his religious beliefs and trying to convince people they were facts, they would be immediately removed from the position. Posting on GFY "Where The Adult Industry Meets" is absolutely no different.

                                You might have a point if he were offering what he thinks as oppinion. That's not the case though, is it? He's offering it as being fact. This alone calls in to question his judgment and by default the judgment of his employer.

                                If you're really in business and you want to do the most business you can, you don't allow your employees to spout off oppinion and claim it's a fact all the while representing your company and ultimately you personally. I have plenty of choices for cam options and having one of your employees run their mouth makes me skip considering yours all together. If you think I'm the only person with that mindset then I encourage you to ask around.
                                Last edited by WarChild; 11-04-2011, 09:25 AM.
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