[QUOTE=Paul Markham;18509497]I would say it's a lot better than Twistys.

And so it should be, this is Michael Ancher's content. A Penthouse and Playboy level shooter. He's in the top levels of shooting this kind of porn. Comparing my work with his and not seeing the difference is sad. Saying Michael isn't good enough to shoot for Twistys is plain, well you decide. At no time did I indicate it was shot by any of us.

Explanation. I was discussing with Cherry the difference between what he shoots and what's top quality work in the erotic/glamor niche. Damina who is clueless about porn and therefore the business he works in and loves to prove it. Jumped in with his usual bullshit.

The difference in styles are obvious to anyone who shoots. It should be obvious to anyone in porn.

Damian threatened to bring it here to make me look stupid.

Seems the ball bounced beck into his mouth.

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Paul Markham gets upset when people point out the faults in his work, but I has never fails to slag off other peoples work using his Pseudo photo babble even though Markham has no photographic training, has never studied photography, does not read books, has never won any photographic awards.

Back in the day shooter were employed by editors with limited cultural outlooks to take the same picture again and again, bland flat lighting and just change the girl.

After all they wanted to make money, not fuck around with art and photography.

Now, of course, all this led to rules, nothing to do with photography but to do with the foibles of mag production.

But this was a long time ago, and photography is a lot easier and better quality on line.

Sadly Markham has not changed, does not read books, does not understand photography.

I don't think penthouse or playboy is very interesting anymore, is it ?

no one has given a fuck about the mags for over a decade now.

That with respect was your problem. Your daily spend on updates would of been enough to have less quantity and a higher quality. Not only you, the obsession online had with quantity over quality was clear on many sites. Now they all have content that rarely stands out.

Getting a "babe" shot by someone who isn't at the top of their game, so you can go quantity over quality is wrong. You want to stand above the rest of the pack, employ a shooter others can't employ or whose work isn't able to be duplicated. IMO.

I know you will tell me how well you did, could you have done better with member staying longer, eager to get tomorrows update?

gideongallery you're an idiot. Michael consistently shot and sold to Penthouse and Playboy. If you had a clue about porn you would know that.

Now I understand how you won that troll award. Pretty tough competition there.

Rogue markham.

you are a broke old man on the dole. he sold his company for millions and retired in his 30s.

you have lost your mind.

Funny you mention because after doing the Top 10 galleries post last year and realizing that Tammy shot the Emily Addison shower set, and having only recently become familiar with VIP Area, I went back and looked at dozen of Twistys galleries to see if I could figure out which ones were hers. In doing so I got the impression that her Twistys work was kind of like a constrained version of her VIP Area style. Pretty much a waste of time on my part but interesting nonetheless!


The thing I admire most about Twistys is it's ability to simultaneously appeal to both a 'highbrow snob' type target and a 'mass adult consumer target' without alienating either. A delicate balancing act that's extremely difficult to pull off. Hopefully they'll be able to keep it up.

Websites like that do exist. Some do well and some don't.

you are so clueless. twistys was probably one of the best rebilling sites out there. of course you would not no that. you don't get the internet. you probably still don't know how to operate your betamax.

moron i never said he didn't

i said he didn't sell every single pictureto penthouse and playboy. There were pictures which didn't meet those standards.

That being said his "crap" pictures are better then your best that the point.

Markham has officially gone bat shit crazy.

Poor fella.

looks like when U R bored a bit you just open a thread about Paul and thats it.
Anyway to bring my oppinion as a photog.
The only thing I can comment is Michael Ancher issue here - Michael is top top photog - 1 of the really best guys behind the camera.I guess that twistys pics shown here is made by Dean Capture I think - its the same league - none of them is better or worse - both are the top pros.

see was Jayrock - the same applies

LOL!

Nice one Paul! You showed that neither Damian or GideonGallery are in this business, have any idea about what is good, and in Damian's case he just says the opposite of anything you say.

That showed the true colors of their idiocy and I'm so glad I have both of them on ignore because they are both idiots. (I know what they said from people quoting it)

Have you made a sale with that kind of content? "Babe" softcore stuff like that never sold for us at even 1/100th the amounts that hardcore stuff did. And in today's "everything is free" market...I wonder what it would do now?

I'm not talking whether or not it makes YOUR cock hard or not. I'm saying making a SALE (which is what you said). I honestly don't believe that a picture like that would make me one dollar for a new sale. It would be a nice filler pic to have in the members area to help encourage rebills as one of a million pictures or the first "pretty girl" shot before she gets fucked hard.

But an actual SALE? I don't think so. Great artsy pictures can't sell a porn site by themselves for sure. Maybe as a small part of the overall selling point. But if I don't see a sweaty pic of that whore getting anal drilled by a black basketball team...I ain't pulling my credit card out. lol

I missed the quote where damian said the Ancher pics were shit, can you point me to it?

babe / softcore/ art nude sells excellent if you have that traffic. this is adult webmastering 101 stuff.

I wouldn't point you to a fucking water hose if you were on fire :1orglaugh

So that's a no then. That'll be because he didn't actually say it anywhere :thumbsup

ps softcore doesn't sell either :1orglaugh

Can we some some of your stuff?

Here are my #s on a Malena Morgan gallery, but note that September and October have been shit for all CCBILL.
https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18507245&postcount=62

So how many sells have you made with it oh wise one?

"That traffic"
Dude, I had "that traffic" and a lot more. You are clueless..go back to "adult webmastering" school and leave this to the pro's.

It did not sell in any amount as much as hardcore..ever. That's why no softcore site was ever as "big" as a gonzo "Bang Bus" or "Milf Hunter" site was. There was no comparison.

I'm sure that you could sell enough to a softcore site back in the day to make the kind of money you are used to. But we had a lot more traffic and made a lot more money than just about anyone as affiliates. And I saw what sold in every niche across the board.

We had every niche running on AL4A and then I archived it into categories on Ampland.
I don't need YOU to try and tell me shit about what sells. I have a "babe" category. I see what it does in comparison.
Yes, softcore sells. No, it doesn't sell anywhere close to hardcore.

p.s. You're an idiot :1orglaugh

thought i was on ignore.

Been on the sniff tonight?

You are. I took you off to see what you had to say. Now I'm putting you back on.

A thread filled with grumpy old men.

It's daytime here in Vegas. And you are still a jackass. :1orglaugh

By the way...I said that one PICTURE wasn't going to help make a sale. You are so fucking dumb. Softcore sites do sell...but not enough to even come close to hardcore sales overall. I'm looking at the big picture.
You are looking at a very, very small picture because you are hardly even in this business to begin with.

Damn, slaughtered me on a timezone. You win. Oh, wait...

It ain't hard to win when dealing with you. :1orglaugh

Except when trying to find where damian actually said Ancher's pics were shit, obviously. Still, you sure saw him & gideon for the idiots they were! Oh, wait...

man, man, man...

:error

Just a question on the hardcore / softcore....

If you get 10 hardcore sales from 1000 clicks

or

2 softcore sales from a 1000 clicks is not the point to filter the traffic in suc a way as to get all 12 sales ?

Are not all sales important ?

Some shops have lots of clients others have less....but all sales are good :2 cents:

that your new tagline?

You are pathetic. Enjoy your ability to babble on GFY...it's all you have. Meanwhile I'll continue living in my home, driving my car, and living my lifestyle because I actually know what I'm doing in this business and I'm better than most at making money in it.

Have fun with whatever it is you think you do. :thumbsup

Twistys had what most others didn't the "Bro" status of Shap and a lot of traffic that followed.

As a professional content producer for 3 decades it was easy to spot where the content was letting down the site. Too many of the images were repeated, too many in portrait framing when screens now are wide screen format and lots of the poses were simply wrong.

With the videos, a lot of them were of the girls standing up, which in widescreen HD makes for a great shot of the room and a small girl. The success or failure of the video relied on the model's performance. Few shooters were dictating to the model how she worked. So I got the impression the girls did "their thing" which with LA porn stars usually means auto pilot.

One shooter seemed too interested in getting the room lights to glow in his images, which means shooting at such a wide aperture when the picture is full size it's out of focus. And the "depth of focus" is very low.

The site updated with 3 sets and 2 videos every day. By updating less and better, it would mean a better members area. Size isn't everything, even in porn.

jimmycooper debating with GG on content subjects is like debating with me on flying a jet engine. Except content is more over his head than a jet is over mine.

Damian is truly stupid. He didn't see me goading him into doing something dumb.

"Go on do it, stick your head into the lions mouth. You don't have the guts." :1orglaugh

At what point do you stop and think about it?

I would of said it was over exposed, but maybe that was deliberate. you never know with some shooters.

We didn't have to "filter" any "traffic"
Our "traffic" was/is REAL people interested in something and clicking on it of their own free will.

And given a CHOICE, side by side of something to buy...I found over the years that the overwhelming majority went for the hardcore stuff.
Yes, we had so many surfers from 1997 to around 2007/2008 (when the mass exodus from TGP to tube/torrent/fileshare in porn began) that we were still able to make a few thousand dollars a month on softcore.

So "yes" all sales are important.

All I was ever saying was in response to the post that implied that a nice picture of a hot girl in lingerie would make significant sales.
In my experience that ONE picture wouldn't make one sale. Not one dollar.

Put it in context in a series of pics with her stripping down and let the viewer know there is a corresponding video of that girl doing some passionate masturbation..and it has the potential to make a "softcore" sale. :)

paul you are so clueless it hurts. people rebilled because of the constant updates. twistys had amazing rebills. if they followed your advice shap would be on the dole as like you intead of retired.

robbie you had generic hardcore traffic, not babe or art nude traffic. why is that so hard to understand?

:1orglaugh

You have a home AND a car AND a lifestyle? Fuck, you da man!