I was talking about 3,000 sign ups, not $3,000. Sites making $6,000 are small ones, or were. Thats like 200 members a month and 6.66 sign ups retains a day.

Yes paysites starting their own Tubes will be the next step. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Already happening.

Paul has probably never sold a single pornsite membership in his life.

Why does he think he is qualified to give an expert opinion on paysite sales?

Nothing wrong with what you said, but you're leaving out one very important variable. A penis.

When an erect penis is involved in the decision making, all bets are off. Analogies about water, mainstream sales, or hard selling, all take a back seat when a guy wants to rub one out and has found a girl he wants to rub one out to.

I used to be a porn consumer. No one ever had to sell me. The girl I was interested in did that, so long as they didn't give away too much of her. They only had to make me trust their site and get me into their members area as quickly as possible with the least amount of effort, at an affordable price. I didn't care what the site looked like, so long as it was functional and didn't have pop-ups or other annoying features. I wasn't there to give them design awards, I was there to rub one off looking at one or more of their girls.

Fast forward to 2011...

Now, I just google the girls name or the site and I get it all for free. No need to join. And unless you're using a 3rd party biller like CCbill, Epoch, Segpay, or Zombaio, I wouldn't put my card into your site anyway.

The only thing I've paid for in the past three or four years or so have been webcams. And they don't have to sell me either. No one has to bullshit me or promise anything. Just give me the girl I am interested in, and give her to me now. Because at this stage, my penis is doing most of the thinking and he doesn't have time to waste. He also is easily distracted, so if you can't give him what he wants right NOW, he may find interest elsewhere with just one click of the mouse.

My client list includes Playboy, Hustler, Easydate, am about to work with AWE and Pussycash and am a Director with the ASACP.

Yes, real fringe stuff.

Bless you and your jericurled fringe. Mullet boy.

You failed to make it as a guitarist and ended up playing in dive bars for beer money. You then whored out your wife when you realised you were broke. You have no actual skill set apart from marrying a woman with huge tits.

Bless you.

No, I think lying about that happening over a dinner table with people you've not met is inappropriate and especially icky when it is someone as old as you. You also made lewd comments about the young waitress. And many many times I've told that story to others who know you they agree and say that's exactly how you act.

But keep lying about it if you want.

Everyone that has met you would testify you letch after any young girls and talk too much about all the models you "fuck".

But I'm on ignore, right?

LOL

He doesn't. He is trolling to get attention. And it's working well.

No one actually thinks he means this advice, or is doing anything other than trying to wind everyone up do they? It's hilarious. THe biggest online failure in porn giving advice is a really good joke.

Next, he will be telling people how to avoid getting cancer. Hilarious.

Or pretending he's starting up a new job teaching English to teenagers. Can you imagine? A man who has said how hard it is for teachers not to fuck the children they are in charge of saying he's gonna be a teacher. LOL LOL LOL.

These are all classics. He is so clearly joking. But you all keep falling for it.

He's a troll genius.

Him, teaching little girls. Can you imagine! LOL!

what we've got here is generational warfare. bring it on old-timers :thumbsup

Well ok I was talking about what I call an average site doing $6000 a month. Someone running one site like that is still doing better than someone working in a factory and someone running a few sites like that is doing very well unless he wants to make 2 million euros a year but people like that aren't real to me and not worth my time. I'm happy if I can make 100,000 euro gross income a year, or more but if I would be making 200,000 euro gross income a year I would feel I was living a dream and give half of it to charity because I would feel guilty having so much money.

Does that make me a kitten?

But what is your solution to the decline paysite sales? Honestly I've been waiting for the punchline for quite some time now :)

I already posted my ideas and I use some of these ideas in practice and they work well.

You're talking about, something most webmasters are clueless. You might as well be talking quantum physiques for all they understand about porn.

They think the color of the site, design, words they add over ride crap to medium content. Totally don't understand that after a while anyone who got "sold a pup" realises to ignore the sales chatter and concentrate on the product.

Once you take this illusion away from them, they have little to "sell". All they can do which is really their function is online porn is to submit free content on a basis of paid after the sale. Because sponsors couldn't afford to put, let's say, 50 people in a room to do the job required.

They labor paid after the sale.

They only have to think of how wary they are of promoting a sponsor, after so many have failed on them, to realise the principal of once bitten twice shy.

Of course paying out for a shooter to get a good girl and make her better, is another thing few sponsors could afford.

what is quantum physiques? please enlighten me.

What makes you think that even 10% of the people posting on GFY are webmasters or even in the Porn biz at all? Most of them are just guys in trailers posting about shit they don't know. :1orglaugh

So stop offending all of us who really are in the business with those blanket statements. :1orglaugh

Very good post, and amen. And thanks for the link to http://www.removeyourcontent.com I'm using them now and happy with them. The bottom line is that as a producer you need to keep your new content off Google and for doing that you need to do a few things including hiring a service like removeyourcontent. And again I also believe that you need to accept that you have to give away your old content for free as part of drawing traffic to your site and advertising. If your cock sees a girl in that old content that makes him leak forejuices then your cock wants to see the newest content with that girl too, and grab your credit card :)

https://gfy.com/image.php?u=13061&dateline=1315811109

Hey Robbie how much coke did you take before that pic was taken? Just wondering... :1orglaugh

None...that was the problem. lol

But I was THINKING about it! :pimp

Man if you are THAT energic without coke I don't want to know what you're like when you are ON coke :1orglaugh

Do you still play the guitar? I have a Gibson LP but haven't touched it for years, used to play heavy metal.

How do you pose a point btw?

Yeah, playing music is like a disease that I can't get rid of. lol

I have a roomful of guitars that I've used onstage since 1978. I'm currently using a Floyd Rose Redmond Series Model K refitted with Seymour Duncan JB pickups, a Jeff Beck Custom Shop Signature Series Fender Strat, a Brian Moore I-Guitar (I use that for alt tunings since it has a fixed bridge), and an Adamas acoustic.

Sitting in my studio are my 1978 Les Paul Deluxe (bought that one new in 1978 and played it around the world), Ibanez RG1570, Yamaha Acoustic, 1984 BC Rich Warlock (one of the REAL ones made in the US), & a 1989 Ibanez RG760.

My rig was a Bogner Ecstasy Head with a Bogner 4x12 Greenback loaded cab and 2 Marshall 4x12 cabs and a Marshall 2x12 cab.
BUT...I just changed over to the new Line 6 HD 500 and Line6/Bogner DT50 amp combo a month ago.

So my Bogner Ecstasy and a wall of guitar cabs are just sitting in my garage now gathering dust. :)