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pornmasta 11-21-2011 10:39 PM

something is not far from ridiculous if you compare my stats with my stats of the previous months, seriously... (and even without this double chargeback+ refund that i have to pay because there is a hole in their process)

and other people claim that their stats are ok in the same time...

wehateporn 11-22-2011 04:01 AM

As of November 22nd my CCBill stats for this month are neck and neck with my "Best Month Ever" stats from August. :2 cents:

signupdamnit 11-22-2011 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 18577342)
something is not far from ridiculous if you compare my stats with my stats of the previous months, seriously... (and even without this double chargeback+ refund that i have to pay because there is a hole in their process)

and other people claim that their stats are ok in the same time...

When did the double chargeback occur in relation to the dry spell?

nickutis 11-22-2011 05:50 AM

last few days incredibly low sales sponsor-wide

From 1:2000 average to 1:6000 and worse

JohnRingo 11-22-2011 06:31 AM

I prefer ccbill size I'm a small fish. We all know they pay u no matter what and on time. I am always looking for new ccbill sponsors and te first thing I do is a search. 9 times out of 10 the top results are from torrents - not tubes. My advice is for people to stop crying about sales and start filing copyright claims. I bet u get a shit ton more sales once your full site rips aren't appearing in the top 10 google searches. But that wouldtake actual work instead of complaining so I don't see that happening any time soon.

Catalyst 11-22-2011 06:38 AM

I have seen a the increase in ratios the last couple of months myself. my ratios are bad.. but no were near that level.

we designed 10 new tours.. and a/b tested everyone.. and then created 3 new tours based off the winner..

however.. I will tell you this.. What had made a HUGE fucking difference more than anything is NATS tracking..

we use nats to do the tracking.. and ccbill to do the payout and this mix seem to help keep our affiliate rates much more normal ( under 1:2000 for solo girls) and around 1:3000 for multi girl sites..

i have just had all types of problems with ccbill tracking.. so I designed my own tracking.. and just redirecting the traffic... i lost traffic like 20% to 80% of the time.. without knowing why.. You can ask a lot of webmaster who switch from ccbill to nats.. they end up paying out a lot more because nats tracking in so much better..

my personal nats / ccbill account for this month
1:2550 to american kittens ( with over 10 sales) and 100% of that traffic is from the hun.. ( it is only place i submit to.. because it is easy and my galleries are clean)

1:2500 of hun traffic is really good I think.. ( it didn't cost me a dime and I made around 1,700 over the last 30 days.)

It is something to think about.. finding programs that use Nats and CCbill, I know there isn't a lot of them.. but we are one of the few..

Im will to help most affiliate webmaster with reasonable requests.. so please check out - http://richcash.com/track/Mi4zLjIuMy4wLjAuMC4wLjA

thank you

signupdamnit 11-22-2011 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catalyst (Post 18577855)
I have seen a the increase in ratios the last couple of months myself. my ratios are bad.. but no were near that level.

we designed 10 new tours.. and a/b tested everyone.. and then created 3 new tours based off the winner..

however.. I will tell you this.. What had made a HUGE fucking difference more than anything is NATS tracking..

we use nats to do the tracking.. and ccbill to do the payout and this mix seem to help keep our affiliate rates much more normal ( under 1:2000 for solo girls) and around 1:3000 for multi girl sites..

i have just had all types of problems with ccbill tracking.. so I designed my own tracking.. and just redirecting the traffic... i lost traffic like 20% to 80% of the time.. without knowing why.. You can ask a lot of webmaster who switch from ccbill to nats.. they end up paying out a lot more because nats tracking in so much better..

my personal nats / ccbill account for this month
1:2550 to american kittens ( with over 10 sales) and 100% of that traffic is from the hun.. ( it is only place i submit to.. because it is easy and my galleries are clean)

1:2500 of hun traffic is really good I think.. ( it didn't cost me a dime and I made around 1,700 over the last 30 days.)

It is something to think about.. finding programs that use Nats and CCbill, I know there isn't a lot of them.. but we are one of the few..

Im will to help most affiliate webmaster with reasonable requests.. so please check out - http://richcash.com/track/Mi4zLjIuMy4wLjAuMC4wLjA

thank you

One thing to consider when switching from CCBill to Nats tracking is how often under CCBill affiliates will send to refer.ccbill.com directly for galleries. That has the effect of counting the gallery click as a normal hit. When you move to Nats if the send instead to the Nats url it only counts as a regular click if they click the sponsor link. You have to be careful there to not compare apples to oranges when it comes to ratios. This also has the effect of hurting an affiliate who originally sent traffic directly to refer.ccbill.com because as I understand it the cookie doesn't get set by Nats in the same way. This difference can end up helping the sponsor who now gets credit for more type ins without having to pay the affiliate. Some might say good but sending directly to refer.ccbill.com for galleries is one way to counter the trend of sponsors putting huge urls on the galleries or content. If the surfer does a type in after seeing the url the affiliate still gets credit since they have their cookie set. If they don't send to refer.ccbill.com the cookie is not set unless the surfer clicks the sponsor link on the gallery.

pornmasta 11-22-2011 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 18577782)
When did the double chargeback occur in relation to the dry spell?

1st: refund
10th: chargeback (same transaction as the refund)
Low stats since the 1st... October was not incredible, but at least it was ok...

pornmasta 11-22-2011 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catalyst (Post 18577855)
i lost traffic like 20% to 80% of the time.. without knowing why..

there is bots...

stocktrader23 11-22-2011 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 18578019)
One thing to consider when switching from CCBill to Nats tracking is how often under CCBill affiliates will send to refer.ccbill.com directly for galleries. That has the effect of counting the gallery click as a normal hit. When you move to Nats if the send instead to the Nats url it only counts as a regular click if they click the sponsor link. You have to be careful there to not compare apples to oranges when it comes to ratios. This also has the effect of hurting an affiliate who originally sent traffic directly to refer.ccbill.com because as I understand it the cookie doesn't get set by Nats in the same way. This difference can end up helping the sponsor who now gets credit for more type ins without having to pay the affiliate. Some might say good but sending directly to refer.ccbill.com for galleries is one way to counter the trend of sponsors putting huge urls on the galleries or content. If the surfer does a type in after seeing the url the affiliate still gets credit since they have their cookie set. If they don't send to refer.ccbill.com the cookie is not set unless the surfer clicks the sponsor link on the gallery.

That's all well and good but did you miss this part?

Quote:

You can ask a lot of webmaster who switch from ccbill to nats.. they end up paying out a lot more because nats tracking in so much better..
That's not just clicks, it's sales.


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