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Makaveli 09-04-2011 08:23 PM

Your traffic fucking sucks.

jimmycooper 09-04-2011 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 18403482)
ACTUALLY....

Your CONTENT converts your TRAFFIC just fine...


My point is, people always blame the processor when in reality it almost never has anything at all to do with the processor.

I agree, but when people use the same content selection criteria for programs using different billers and then notice a disparity, there's a chance that their complaint will be valid.

DBS.US 09-04-2011 08:34 PM

Build a another tube site, that will fix the problem.

drx 09-04-2011 08:36 PM

damn thats sucky hope it picks up soon for you bro

Dubya 09-04-2011 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmycooper (Post 18403595)
I agree, but when people use the same content selection criteria for programs using different billers and then notice a disparity, there's a chance that their complaint will be valid.

:2 cents: I notice regularly that I convert better with different billers.. has to be the scrub. :2 cents:

iamtam 09-04-2011 08:47 PM

actually, here is a better question: what are the "affiliate only" ratios? i dont have a program on ccbill, i am an affiliate only, and i am seeing 1 in 10k raw. 1 in 7.5k unique for august. i am starting to wonder if someone is clickjacking or something.

jimmycooper 09-04-2011 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HXMGP (Post 18403524)
I'm sure most of you are realizing this more and more that people don't buy porn like they used to and if they do buy it has to be something really special or unique these days. Consumers are much smarter than they used to be 3-5 years ago. Everybody is all about getting something for nothing these days.

I've been pissed off the last so many months because of this and that's why I'm doing other things mainly. Fuck Adult!

I don't think anyone in this thread has compared September 2011 to September 2006 in an attempt to determine acceptable ratio. Things move so quickly, Sep 2010 vs. Sep 2011 wouldn't even be a good way to do it.

porno jew 09-04-2011 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamtam (Post 18403608)
actually, here is a better question: what are the "affiliate only" ratios? i dont have a program on ccbill, i am an affiliate only, and i am seeing 1 in 10k raw. 1 in 7.5k unique for august. i am starting to wonder if someone is clickjacking or something.

it happened a few years ago after a very bad trojan (?) was hitting surfers hard through all the adult ad networks. i gave up on ccbill after that.

brassmonkey 09-04-2011 09:05 PM

my turtle layed an egg

jscott 09-04-2011 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBS.US (Post 18403596)
Build a another tube site, that will fix the problem.

fyi, I send 0 clicks/day to sponsors from all my tubes that you are assuming I own

get yo facts straight :thumbsup

The Porn Nerd 09-04-2011 10:10 PM

Fiddy CCBill sales!

femdomdestiny 09-04-2011 10:10 PM

August 2011- 1:660
September 2011- 0:3000

Other billers convert normally.

jscott 09-04-2011 10:13 PM

Also, a few facts

1. my "shitty traffic" is from non skim seo'd blogs, all my blogs get the top keyword rankings that i'm aiming for. Also from some very low skim tgps, and these also rank high for all the kw's im going for, there is a ton of se traffic involved
2. most the sites are super old, have build up backlinks, forum traffic, se traff, link trades, it's a really nice mixture that does very well for me (for mostly everything except ccbill sites)
3. i've been pushing sites since 1997..... i've seen bad, and great, and horrible...... and i do understand how overall ratios in general have gone to shit in the adult biz.... but this is far far far beyond any bad/horrible/shit ratios i've seen in my life, and really seems unbeliavable to me

anexsia 09-04-2011 10:42 PM

There's only one way to fix all these CCBill problems....MAGIC JOIN LINKS. Why even bother with CCBill when you can just throw up some magic join links and get signups in seconds?

Jel 09-04-2011 11:07 PM

Had a glut of CBs lately? ccbill will flag your aff links and scrub harder than their already hard scrub if you have. That may be something to look into.

Socks 09-04-2011 11:50 PM

August 1:553 raw
Sept 1:288 raw

leg4 09-04-2011 11:52 PM

CCBILL PLZ HELP US!!

shit is fucked


plz send the Army in! We need help.

jimmycooper 09-05-2011 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks (Post 18403757)
August 1:553 raw
Sept 1:288 raw

Wow. Impressive. What % is from search traffic?

Here's my Aug vs. Sep.

Aug
1:1245 Raw
1:615 Unique

Sep
1:2262 Raw
1:919 Unique


Aug ratios were my worst ever, but I attribute it more towards seasonality and an increase of TGP traffic than I do towards there being a consumer market shift which has somehow crippled my ability to pick world class content.

September is still young and, given my relatively low traffic, an extra 3-4 or so sales would likely put my Sep ratios in line with Aug. Not to mention that even though the calendar says otherwise, it's still August in the US and Canada, so I don't expect the typically lower than average ratios which come with the month to end until after Labor Day.

My Pimp 09-05-2011 02:07 AM

That is a lot.

tonyparra 09-05-2011 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PromoterX (Post 18403488)
Hmmm.... whats trange is I had a gallery at the hun and pointing to the ccbill join page (not the regular tour) from the gallery and ccbill didn't even register any clicks whatsoever.

32Gb of traffic over 4 days for that ONE sponsor, and ccbill never even saw it. I double and triple checked the link codes and it is right..

:2 cents: this

MrDeiz 09-05-2011 02:35 AM

we are getting avarage CCBill ratios for direct sales (a few hundreds of sales) and referral ales of 8k+ referred ccbill webmasters for all the summer.

some days are downs, but the next days are usually up

jscott 09-05-2011 02:41 AM

Ya, i'm trying to convince myself it's some unlucky fluke days...

.... but now going on day 5..... just amazing!

I really wish ccbill would upgrade their stats system, showing submits.... showing amounts of traffic/clicks sent per sponsor site (instead of just combined per program)

ccbill, any of these stats info's coming soon? would really be awesome

Jel 09-05-2011 03:47 AM

checked CB's I mentioned jscott?

My other big gripe with ccbill: no way to tell where clicks are coming from unless a sale is made. I have a bunch of sponsors that have shut down, or turned to shit, and with no way to track referring urls can't swap linkcodes on older posts/galleries that are getting se traffic, possible surfer forum traffic, etc. Fucking huge waste of clicks and I can't do anything about it :(

Jel 09-05-2011 03:48 AM

oh, and create new accounts per site jscott if a program has multiple paysites, for keeping track a little better.

scouser 09-05-2011 03:50 AM

ratios for last 5 days deff worse than usual for ccbill for me. could just be variance / coincidence though.

sojproductions 09-05-2011 04:07 AM

should be coincidence, but we all seem to have different variants, the last 5 days have been average for days of week, time of year etc, 2 weeks ago it was awful for 5 days when many others were reporting good days, almost like niches go in cycles! I rack my brains trying to find reasonable solutions, its just not that easy!

Kafka 09-05-2011 04:33 AM

Don't blame CcBill. It's the economy stupid ;-)

Captain Kawaii 09-05-2011 05:03 AM

?All men are frightened. The more intelligent they are, the more they are frightened. The courageous man is the man who forces himself, in spite of his fear, to carry on.?

scouser 09-05-2011 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sojproductions (Post 18404014)
should be coincidence, but we all seem to have different variants, the last 5 days have been average for days of week, time of year etc, 2 weeks ago it was awful for 5 days when many others were reporting good days, almost like niches go in cycles! I rack my brains trying to find reasonable solutions, its just not that easy!

think it is just coincidence/variance. too early in the month to compare ratio to last month. plus summer is over now, slightly different trends.

kuda 09-05-2011 09:30 AM

same shit here..
CCBILL
August 1:24k raw
1:6214.3 uniq

Argos88 09-05-2011 11:23 AM

ccbill converts normal here.

the problem is obvious and if you are not able to open your eyes and see the problem that started in 2007, then you deserve a 1:100,000 ratio dude.

u can't be so naive and don't see what is going on in this business.

CCBILL is not the problem, that's for sure.

pornmasta 09-05-2011 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 18403378)
time to try new sponsors?

probably

pornmasta 09-05-2011 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscott (Post 18402546)
Yo ccbill, i dont feel like contacting the robots at cientsupport to hear "everything is fine on our end" so thought to post here to maybe wakeup the higher ups

.... 1:22k ccbill for September, absolutely and unbelieveably rare :Oh crap

Can you please let me know if things get fixed? Thank you

jscott
affid: 186117

what is your usual ratio ?

pornmasta 09-05-2011 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argos88 (Post 18404675)
ccbill converts normal here.

the problem is obvious and if you are not able to open your eyes and see the problem that started in 2007, then you deserve a 1:100,000 ratio dude.

u can't be so naive and don't see what is going on in this business.

CCBILL is not the problem, that's for sure.

zambo et cookie stuffing shit ?

Argos88 09-05-2011 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 18405048)
what is your usual ratio ?

depends on the sponsor.. it goes between 1:100 to 1:1000 at the worst..

if I try a new sponsor and it goes above 1:1000 I just dump them...

oh and all are paysite signups.. No cams at all, they just don't fucking convert... its like IMPOSSIBLE to sell cams on my niche blogs with SE traffic.

or maybe im missing something or some blackhat people use to sell cams? I just dont know.. have been trying to figure out for the last 2 years how the HELL you guys do to convert cams and Im still trying to find the answer...

pornmasta 09-06-2011 12:32 AM

there is indeed a problem, but usually sales are credited later.

maxxtro 09-06-2011 01:02 AM

So far for me:

1:1162 Raw Clicks
1:255 Unique Clicks

TGP Traffic

Jel 09-06-2011 01:07 AM

Why does anyone post Raws, ever?

V_RocKs 09-06-2011 04:23 AM

ouch!...

nyllover 09-06-2011 04:39 AM

August had been a nightmare for us too (speaking from program owner point of view)...especially second half had been like a desert.... problem is jscott that every now and then these issues come up...and no one can have any sort of proof against CCBill.... that's the sad truth...


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