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I can't remember one other person sharing your views on your shoot. If you are that great don't you think that strange? |
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As they're not, it shows you to be not very bright. Are you a full time pornographer like me, well I was for 30 years, but still making a living from porn. What do you make a living from? |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() This one is like a 2x1 landscape. ![]() Would it not be possible for someone to stroke one out to this gallery? http://nudes.hegre-art.com/gallhit/113830/3854/1/5/0 Here's a shot from Richard Avery ![]() Tammy Sands on VIP Area ![]() ![]() ![]() Tammy Sands On Twistys ![]() Here's the MetArt photographer page for the guy who you assumed was a beginner. http://guests.met-art.com/photograph...s/top-gallery/ Out of what must be close to 1000 or so of the photographers listed on the nude, he's consistently voted as one of the top 10. See here along with the Ps. ![]() Moving away from 'erotic photography' and 'glamour', take a look at shots from sets from Spiz Cash. ![]() ![]() Is the stuff they do at Spiz always technically sound? No. But the technical stuff will come in time. Creativity and vision cannot be taught. The reason you nitpick about little errors made by a photographer with 500+ galleries on MetArt is because those are errors you personally cannot make because you lack the vision to compensate for them. Claiming that Hegre is a guy who shoots stills like a film strip tells us that you've either seen a lot of his other work and have no clue as to what you're talking about or that you're making a broad assessment based upon one gallery, an act that which almost always leads to wrongness. I want you to prove me wrong here because when it comes to things like critiquing photography, something of which I am still largely a novice, the act of learning something new is a byproduct of being wrong, and I want to learn as much as possible. When was the last time you acknowledged that you were wrong about something? Back in 82'? All that means is that you haven't learned anything since back in 82'. I'd like to learn something from these posts, but I'm not really feeling it from you right now. Anyway, where can i see your Manwin scene? I'm curious
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A - the position of the model is awesome - inviting. The glance and expression is cool, but the thing that turns me off is those hairy pants which do exist on B. The model has beautiful legs and they should be seen and shown.
C - I hope I'm not the one who considers the women's butt as one of the most sensual and erotic parts of female body. The expression of the model is innocent - she's young and beautiful - smells like youth. Everything seems natural here to me - I voted for that photo. D- The same beautiful model - a guy once told me not to use models for websites who puts their fingers in their own mouths. Even if this looks sexy to someone, there will always be people who will think that she's trying to cause vomiting. Personally I think it's sexy and I like the picture - but there are different people. If there was a candy bar, or ice cream the things would be much more awesome. E - Well... I voted for C. |
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Cherry is someone who clearly has world class talent.
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A is fine
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Of course they are. And you know it. Today with online viewers having mainly wide screens the majority of poses should be wide angle. Sadly on most sites I've seen they're not.
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Is it the shooters fault? No responsibility for all the content on the site lies with the site owner. He should be telling the shooters what to do. Does he know what to tell them? You didn't think that 18 shots all portrait of one position and 3 variations was wrong. First thing I saw. That's something I had to learn, however shooting like that on film would bankrupt a shooter. I don't see any ex film shooter doing it unless he's a fashion shooter. Definitely not a trait of magazine shooters. Quote:
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A picture tells a story. Whether it's a picture of your baby taken on your mobile phone after being born or a set up shot taking days to construct. The story we tell is often different. Sometimes it's DVT telling us this is some slut who lives in your street and will fuck anyone for a pizza, sometimes it's Playboy style picture telling us this is a girl whose at home in a Ferrari or on the back seat of a Rolls and only fucks millionaires. Sometimes it's of a goddess, my stuff is naught teasing teen amateurs or maybe a bit glam like these shots, still I try to make my girls look accessible, as in shot A. When shooting a set, it's got to be approached like a video. Shoot a progression of shots, build a story. Showing single pictures proves the shooter can get 1 or 5 shots right in a set. 100+ should be right and it should build to a climax. Often we fail, but we have to try. Take a look at how I build a set. The vibrator shots got lost. http://www.paulmarkham.com/details.p...20%29&i d=251 (More recent) Amateur teeny http://www.paulmarkham.com/details.p...0%29&i d=1882 Sexier teen http://www.paulmarkham.com/details.p...0%29&i d=1815 More glam http://www.paulmarkham.com/details.p...0%29&i d=1814 What you will notice is the lack of a need to repeat the same shot over and over again. We shot portrait more because magazines are portrait. No I'm not a glam photographer, go compare those guys you quote with Micheal Ancher, Viv Thomas, Steve Hicks. I know what's right about repeat poses, landscape, looks off the model and how they should tell a story though. Quote:
![]() Your statement is wrong, so will you admit it? In 1982 I was no where near the shooter I was in 1992 or 2002. I learned as I went along. Listening to what others were saying, doing what editors told me to do and responding to my own critique of my work. What I have found online is a lot of ignorance about porn shooting. The constant desire to link everyone with a camera and judge different style by the same measures. The thinking that sponsors can fill site with poor content, then someone like you comes along and picks the best sites to debate my stance. Go look at the normal site, pull out their work and put that up against mine. One thing you need to learn is to compare apples with apples. Quote:
This is my basic message. The members areas of most sites aren't good enough. Manwin has some great scenes, often technically very good. However it lack depth, personality and character, it's often just one scene after another with nothing to make the members stay longer than they do. It's still one of the best sites out there. I feel it could be better. It's heads and shoulders above most. This goes for Hegre and some others. Quote:
Can you tell from seeing it what my style is? Ignore the technical quality, others could only fault that, technical skills are sure to be poor after a 3 year lay off and my poor physical condition. If fit and back again, they would soon improve. Look at the framing, the progression and the contact between the model and you. You might not like girls talking to you very dirty as they frig themselves off. I DO So do 10,000s of porn buyers, it gives them a boost to their wanking. IMO once a girl says nothing or repeats the same phrases over and over again, she becomes plastic. My skill is to get most girls to talk to the viewer, via me, and make them all different. Talking to the camera. Talking to the camera. Talking to the camera. Talking to the camera. This is my work from around 1990 to 1994. Technically crap when compared to todays technical level. The video I shot for Manwin was similar in style and better in technical quality, a bit more glam and porn star style as that was what I think the site is about. So chose a model to fit that style. Whether you shoot this amateur style like I did here or glam, still getting the models to communicate with the camera as well as this is a skill. Do you see how Ami shares when she's trying to get a real orgasm, it was about her 5th in that scene and who knows how many that day. I can show loads of this kind of work. Comparing this with what we did here is Czech is foolish. Girls couldn't speak English. However on stills I was still able to get them out of their shells. I work a lot with newbies, sometimes it's harder and sometime easier. |
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I think it is C.
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Number none ...
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i vote for this gem http://www.xvideos.com/video1229579/...ster_of_bation
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Now I put in where I think the text for the advert will go, does anyone want to change their mind?
A ![]() B ![]() C ![]() D ![]() E ![]() Still in the same order. I think it throws a different light on the matter. |
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What picture do I give to the designer? |
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I like the second one.
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I like A the best. I kind of wish her hand wasn't cropped though for some reason.
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AAAAA all the way
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c does it for me
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I skipped all the drama and voted for C.
from a woman's perspective
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E, but seriously, WTF is that woman wearing in A and B. Who buys pants like that?
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I think A is the best one to use.
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A. Good eye contact. Spread legs....but clothed and a major tease. Brunette is 'sexier', blond is 'cuter'.
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That is an amazing picture. Too bad her hand and part of her hair isn't in the picture, but the timing and quality is stunning. Perfect calendar material.
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By all means picture A!
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A and E, great pictures, with a tingly teasing sensation to them. Inviting and making promises of "more to come".
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Definitely A.
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A or C I voted C.
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I'll check out your scenes later. It's been a really busy day.
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Do you guys also like to nitpick about the fact Proust used run on sentences?
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The problem for affiliates is too few great sites. How many Alsscans, Bang Buses, Milf Hunters are there and how many affiliates sending them traffic? Quote:
If a site is converting at 1-500 of the traffic that hits it, with 50,000 hits a day. How much will it cost to convert 2-500 and how much would it cost to get 100,000 hits a day? For years we went down the traffic route. The end result is all around. 1,000s of poor to at medium sites that convert at 1-500. The traffic that will buy at any site is diluted between them. So buyers are spread thin. The solution was more cheap sites and send more traffic. Would it had been better to raise the game to a level where opening a site needed good to great content, concentrate more resources on conversion and retention than feeding the Internet with free content? Because that's what 90% of traffic generation is about. Better sites, less of them and more money for the guys who can perform. I know it's probably too late today. So we're left with a shrinking industry. And if I couldn't of produced better content, then I know I would of been one of the casualties. Quote:
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Why has no one asked what the ad is for and where it is being placed and what the point of the ad is?
These are the questions that are important. Assuming it is to sell Paul's content, the last thing I would do is put a picture of a naked girl. Fuck, everyone on every ad does that. It sickens me that no one has any imagination. Program ad = tits, money, car. Hosting ad = box of servers. Billing ad = visa logos. Paul, read Seth Godin's The Purple Cow. You need to make an advert that is DIFFERENT. That is stuff people haven't seen before. Something arresting that will get people talking. I know you post here to get people talking, you are deliberately contentious to get views. Apply that logic to your ad. Assuming it's for your content 1) Text only ad with very cool typography explaining the offering 2) Pic of you outside a mansion laughing saying BUY MY PORN 3) Pic of you looking sad holding gun to your dog's head saying 'BUY MY PORN OF I HAVE TO KILL THE DOG 4) Totally white page, bottom left hand corner in small print, your URL. And "you know who I am, you know what I sell. Come and buy some". Just my humble opinion. |
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i voted like the majority did. is that good?
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I go for DDDDDD
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Maybe Rajah looking into and empty food bowl. And the text, I can't afford to feed the puppy. Or a picture of him running toward me with his mouth open baring his teeth, I have that one already. I sense a new thread coming up up. Also if it lands up in the email of a person whose no longer in Adult, it's a picture of a puppy. |
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So taking Damian's advice.
![]() OK I know the fonts need working on and text, how does it work for you? I need an email in there. OK need to work on it some more, I see how it needs fixing more. Dinner time. |
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Is Paul Markham holding Damian's girl friend hostage ?
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I fucked up, my computer crashed while I was working and saved the over optimized gif. SHIT!!!!!!
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So I got some nice fonts anf fucked up the picture.
I'm going to give up and take him for a walk!!!! |
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Voted A, it makes me wanna do something.
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Socks are good
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Get those thingies to hold your socks up
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