Lazy Affiliate Managers Rant - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

Agent 488 · 06-15-2011, 06:13 PM

not much a rep can do when they work for a dirtbag company. sometimes their hands are tied. we just lose money. they just loose their rep and conscience.

selena · 06-15-2011, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Personally, I don't think a girl has it easier. A girl has to prove she isn't as dumb as rocks first

This.

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Juicy D. Links · 06-15-2011, 06:52 PM

me and Dwreck tore up CHURCH ST!!!!!!!!!!

Nicky · 06-15-2011, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

She isn't talking about those type of connections.... she's talking about aff rep connections, like people with 500 icq contacts and a show index thicker than a phone book.

All the contacts in the world don't produce sales if you suck at getting the traffic.. having one or two guys that will hook you up is nice, it gets a base going... but it doesn't add more new sales next month.

Yep. It's a combination of being able to sell and having a product that is worth selling.

Juicy D. Links · 06-15-2011, 06:58 PM

Dwreck has the softest hands in the biz...

Meloman · 06-15-2011, 07:04 PM

This thread reminds me of an affiliate I was giving advice to that said something like

"if you know what your talking about you wouldn't be a rep" in a very rude and condescending way.

So I replied with short bio of my history including the type of volume I pushed as a webmaster.

I could tell his jaw hit the floor cause he did a 180 turn with his attitude and was super nice after that. He wasn't expecting to hear I actually earn considerably more then him, lol.

Best of all after taking my advice he made more $$$

ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-15-2011, 07:05 PM

Wow lets of Defensive Affiliate Managers here...

Nom nom nom

TampaToker · 06-15-2011, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatOtherGuy

Wow lets of Defensive Affiliate Managers here...

Nom nom nom

its a ruff job man

rowan · 06-15-2011, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks

What about no affiliate rep at all (or several people's added part time role), just a ticketing system that sent everyone in the company that could possibly respond an e-mail?

Trouble with that is that with no particular person assigned to respond they may end up assuming (or hoping) that someone else will do it. You'd also need some sort of "I have no idea what this ticket is about" button so that people who are not knowledgeable in that specific area can count themselves out of contention.

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Originally Posted by Socks

Perhaps getting the president to respond to customer requests would have a profound effect on several levels. First, you'd be in a race with your boss to respond to tickets. If they're responding to too many, you'd feel like a worm.

I once had a response from the CEO of ifriends when emailing support... but I'd say that's the exception rather than the norm.

Nicky · 06-15-2011, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Meloman

This thread reminds me of an affiliate I was giving advice to that said something like

"if you know what your talking about you wouldn't be a rep" in a very rude and condescending way.

So I replied with short bio of my history including the type of volume I pushed as a webmaster.

I could tell his jaw hit the floor cause he did a 180 turn with his attitude and was super nice after that. He wasn't expecting to hear I actually earn considerably more then him, lol.

Best of all after taking my advice he made more $$$

This is why you need reps that know how to make money as an affiliate.

GonZo · 06-15-2011, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BCyber

If you look at a lot of the companies hiring affiliate managers, they are usually mainly looking for people that have connections from past jobs and can bring in affiliates that can send a lot of sales. They aren't really looking for webmasters that can help with a lot of technical stuff.

Back in the day they were called traffic whores but thats not relegated just to affiliate managers.

I remember one webcam program owner that would fly over and spend the weekend if you sent her enough biz . . . Joe E was a happy man for several years.

BAKO · 06-15-2011, 09:22 PM

I'm about the change one of my affiliate managers on monday. Since the account was turned over to the new person my income went down to the grave

PromoterX · 06-15-2011, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BCyber

If you look at a lot of the companies hiring affiliate managers, they are usually mainly looking for people that have connections from past jobs and can bring in affiliates that can send a lot of sales. They aren't really looking for webmasters that can help with a lot of technical stuff.

Best response of the thread. Everyone can go home now... thread is done.

Come on people... being a rep is about sales.... sales is about networking. If you got the contacts, you can get the sales. This isn't rocket science people!

The problem is... too many affiliate reps are about networking and being a front man, that many have no technical experience at all, so they come across as useless, but they are far from it.

The Porn Nerd · 06-15-2011, 10:46 PM

Kristin doesn't make $150k a year say wha?

icymelon · 06-16-2011, 01:45 AM

the best is when you want a specific common size banner. and they tell you. no but you can make your own.

Nicky · 06-16-2011, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by icymelon

the best is when you want a specific common size banner. and they tell you. no but you can make your own.

PromoterX · 06-16-2011, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by icymelon

the best is when you want a specific common size banner. and they tell you. no but you can make your own.

and you don't know how to make your own?

It's a banner! Seriously?

mineistaken · 06-16-2011, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Marquis85

I understand not every affiliate manager has developer/webmaster experience, most probably just have customer support experience and nothing else, but honestly, if you don't know what the fuck I'm talking about, don't ask me to school you.

I wonder why? There are so many jobless webmasters (due to free porn and everything else) that any company could find affiliate rep with webmaster/affiliate experience

Falabala · 06-16-2011, 09:27 AM

Well, it could be worse. Like an affiliate manager that never responds at all to your questions, but constantly keeps pushing it in your face how much he earns by doing nothing and that he bought a second hummer yesterday while I'm working my ass off to get out of the gutter!

kristin · 06-16-2011, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

I wonder why? There are so many jobless webmasters (due to free porn and everything else) that any company could find affiliate rep with webmaster/affiliate experience

Some people have no idea of how to apply for a job. You should see some of the resumes that I get. Oy vey.

I saw one the other day that I laughed - they had :-) on their resume three times at least. Then caps, I want to make YOU more money. On a resume, really?

Adraco · 06-16-2011, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

...simple email address to remember, [email protected]

That sure is a nice email address!!!

Vendzilla · 06-16-2011, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Adraco

That sure is a nice email address!!!

Thanx, makes it easy to tell people, funny when they don't believe me.

Vendzilla · 06-16-2011, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by kristin

Some people have no idea of how to apply for a job. You should see some of the resumes that I get. Oy vey.

I saw one the other day that I laughed - they had :-) on their resume three times at least. Then caps, I want to make YOU more money. On a resume, really?

I remember when I was in high school, they told us that when you apply for the job, to have the attitude that it would behoove them to hire you.

When I worked for Coca Cola, many years ago, we had a guy pass everything but the drug test, told him he could retest in a couple weeks, he tested positive again for meth, it only stays in your system for a couple days. The only reason I remember the guy is that his name was "Steve Austin" aka the 6 million dollar man!!

JayDeeZee · 06-16-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by PromoterX

Best response of the thread. Everyone can go home now... thread is done.

Come on people... being a rep is about sales.... sales is about networking. If you got the contacts, you can get the sales. This isn't rocket science people!

The problem is... too many affiliate reps are about networking and being a front man, that many have no technical experience at all, so they come across as useless, but they are far from it.

Networking is important, but networking is only 25% of the job.

Some people in this biz have lots of friends, they can sell themselves but couldn't close a window never mind a deal.

If you ain't closing, you ain't selling.

"Coffee's for closers!"

Tim · 06-16-2011, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kristin

My favorite, "do you have X?"
Answer: "I don't know, ask Y."
Me: "No, you go ask Y cause that's your job and remember it for the next person who asks you."

mineistaken · 06-16-2011, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kristin

Some people have no idea of how to apply for a job. You should see some of the resumes that I get. Oy vey.

I saw one the other day that I laughed - they had :-) on their resume three times at least. Then caps, I want to make YOU more money. On a resume, really?

But still I assume if program posted job offering on this forum they would get at least few qualified people...

It is very strange that these days any program would have reps with no affiliate/webmaster skills.. I mean those with only customer support skills. Sometimes it looks like quite a few program owners has no hiring skills (or they don't care)

kristin · 06-16-2011, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

But still I assume if program posted job offering on this forum they would get at least few qualified people...

It is very strange that these days any program would have reps with no affiliate/webmaster skills.. I mean those with only customer support skills. Sometimes it looks like quite a few program owners has no hiring skills (or they don't care)

Oh yeah, there are some good ones out there for sure.

marlboroack · 06-16-2011, 09:13 PM

Yes this is very true.

06-15-2011, 09:22 PM	#62
BAKO Etology.com Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Hollywood CA Posts: 18,388	I'm about the change one of my affiliate managers on monday. Since the account was turned over to the new person my income went down to the grave __________________ http://DatingNetwork.com Telegram: @bakokaye

06-15-2011, 10:46 PM	#64
The Porn Nerd Living The Dream Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Inside a Monitor Posts: 19,593	Kristin doesn't make $150k a year say wha? __________________ My Affiliate Programs: Porn Nerd Cash \| Porn Showcase \| Aggressive Gold Over 90 paysites to promote! Now on Teams: peabodymedia

06-16-2011, 01:45 AM	#65
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06-16-2011, 09:27 AM	#69
Falabala Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 61	Well, it could be worse. Like an affiliate manager that never responds at all to your questions, but constantly keeps pushing it in your face how much he earns by doing nothing and that he bought a second hummer yesterday while I'm working my ass off to get out of the gutter! __________________ ICQ - 605736748

06-15-2011, 06:13 PM	#51
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	not much a rep can do when they work for a dirtbag company. sometimes their hands are tied. we just lose money. they just loose their rep and conscience.

06-15-2011, 06:52 PM	#53
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	me and Dwreck tore up CHURCH ST!!!!!!!!!!

06-15-2011, 06:58 PM	#55
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	Dwreck has the softest hands in the biz...

06-15-2011, 07:04 PM	#56
Meloman Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Sacramento,CA Posts: 1,540	This thread reminds me of an affiliate I was giving advice to that said something like "if you know what your talking about you wouldn't be a rep" in a very rude and condescending way. So I replied with short bio of my history including the type of volume I pushed as a webmaster. I could tell his jaw hit the floor cause he did a 180 turn with his attitude and was super nice after that. He wasn't expecting to hear I actually earn considerably more then him, lol. Best of all after taking my advice he made more $$$

06-15-2011, 07:05 PM	#57
ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,241	Wow lets of Defensive Affiliate Managers here... Nom nom nom

06-16-2011, 09:13 PM	#78
marlboroack So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: ☣ Posts: 9,327	Yes this is very true.