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Old 01-25-2003, 05:59 AM   #101
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Old 01-25-2003, 06:00 AM   #102
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Old 01-25-2003, 06:00 AM   #103
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Man half of diesel content you can buy... Half the content is from content providers that post on this board...

Lightspeed Media Corp.
Holio LLC
ZipContent
David Lace LLC
SoBeGirl Inc
Uston Enterprises

Those are the ones that I know of... They have others on there...

http://www.youngporn.net/legal/index.htm
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Old 01-25-2003, 06:01 AM   #104
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Well I've been looking at porn and dating/fucking girls at a young age. I remember being 16/17 and liking the 13/14 year olds. When I was 18 I dated a 15 year old (which is technically not legal). I think in general men like young looking girls, and there seems to be biological/genetical support for that as well (I explained this before in another teenmafia.com bashing thread). The teen niche isn't huge for nothing. These guys aren't pedos in the making, they're 100% healthy and normal guys. Girls that are sexually ripe, regardless of their age (sexually ripe could easily be 15/16) appeal to men because they make good child-bearers - that's genetics for ya.

HOWEVER, needless to say I do not condone 15/16 year olds in porn. 18 is the legal limit we've all agreed on and anyone crossing it should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. But that doesn't mean that young looking girls cater to pedos IF they look sexually ripe. One thing doesn't mean the other, if you're still following me.

Real pedos are into kids as objects of their sexual perversions. There *is* a difference. However after multiple stirs, I'd still advise TGF to get the proof from the sponsor... It'll clear the waters once and for all

completey agreed, had to re-read, but agreed.

On a side note (sorta).. When I was 15 I was in love with an 11 year old, she was so nice and cute too, for an 11 year old Now that Im 24, and she is 20, NOW id fuck the box right off her. SHe is a lara hahahahaha type looking girl, yummy,,, When I was 20/21 i fucked the box right off some 16 year old...... Made me feel dirty.... but some of the best sex ever, I'd never go lower than 20 now though. My morals on age have changed as ive gotten older. Which is natural I guess..... or is it? Now my current woman is almost 5 years OLDER than me...
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Old 01-25-2003, 06:03 AM   #105
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Refresh more and you could've
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Man half of diesel content you can buy... Half the content is from content providers that post on this board...

Lightspeed Media Corp.
Holio LLC
ZipContent
David Lace LLC
SoBeGirl Inc
Uston Enterprises

Those are the ones that I know of... They have others on there...

http://www.youngporn.net/legal/index.htm
Myself I am copletely comfortable with youngporn.net galleries. They look liek 22 year olds in pigtails. Teh oens that are bordrline, I just don't use.

TGF, That script you use is what I'm looking for myself. Is it a paid script? Or a custom?
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Old 01-25-2003, 06:05 AM   #107
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TGF, That script you use is what I'm looking for myself. Is it a paid script? Or a custom?
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Old 01-25-2003, 06:05 AM   #108
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Now my current woman is almost 5 years OLDER than me...
Ain't nothin' like seasoned pussy... Some of the best sexual partners are 25+ ladies. I'm 21.
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Old 01-25-2003, 06:08 AM   #109
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Ain't nothin' like seasoned pussy... Some of the best sexual partners are 25+ ladies. I'm 21.
problem is, she is goina start losing that youthfull feel soon, I can already notice it in her snatch and tits. The BEST feeling woman is a fresh 19 year old, damn they are tight, tight asses, tight tits, tights hahahahas (non-slutts only)

but her sexual experience is good. She knows what it takes to cum. ANd what to do to make me last. NO 19 year old can do that. Ya cna screw teh box off em until they bleed, they just won;t cum, and most are too prissy to let ya get down and dirty with da clit and still feel free enough to enjoy it.
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I cant find even one gallery of www.youngporn.net on TGF wesbite.
But there are simple rules regarding the CP online.
If you are running a sponsorship program you have to keep the records of your models.
There will be many entities who will ask for that especcially in teen niche.
If you are running a free wesbite and your content based on promotional content of sponsor programs ,
then to protect yourself promote only those websites which have the records link on the splash/tour pages of the site.
If the site using well known billing company almost sure they have already asked for the letter from the company lawyers which confirms the legal age.
If the wesbite you promote dont have such link and you cant get the link from them, then stop promote it.It is illegal.
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When I was 15 I was in love with an 11 year old, she was so nice and cute too, for an 11 year old Now that Im 24, and she is 20, NOW id fuck the box right off her. SHe is a lara hahahahaha type looking girl, yummy,,, When I was 20/21 i fucked the box right off some 16 year old...... Made me feel dirty.... but some of the best sex ever, I'd never go lower than 20 now though.
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Old 01-25-2003, 07:16 AM   #113
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sigh..... almost every teen tgp pushes MET and DD, MET is definately CP, yet they are still active,,, think about it. Thats what surprises me
MET? Here is met's legal page

All models displayed on the site are 18 years or older. The owners and operators of this Website are not the primary producer (as that term is defined in 18 USC section 2257) of any of the visual content contained in the Website. The Custodian of Records for this Website is:

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Old 01-25-2003, 07:28 AM   #115
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I have to admit that I'm suprised to see this kind of shit on this guys site because I know for a fact that his been in the buzz for a while and he has a fairly good rap.
Okay tgf, as you can see I clearly pointed out that I knew you so how is it that you're trying to turn this into something it's not.

I do hate you but just the same, I had some respect for you're work because you're site was nice and you know allot about the buzz but as you can see most people would not place those kind of pictures on there site.

Obviously you don't give a fuck about anything as long as you get paid so I'm not going to waste my time trying to make you see the deffrence between right and wrong.

I never thought of you as scum but now that I've seen what you've done all that has changed.

Anyway - go fuck yourself I'm not interested in talking to a wanna be child pusher!

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Okay tgf, as you can see I clearly pointed out that I knew you so how is it that you're trying to turn this into something it's not.

I do hate you but just the same, I had some respect for you're work because you're site was nice and you know allot about the buzz but as you can see most people would not place those kind of pictures on there site.

Obviously you don't give a fuck about anything as long as you get paid so I'm not going to waste my time trying to make you see the deffrence between right and wrong.

I never thought of you as scum but now that I've seen what you've done all that has changed.

Anyway - go fuck yourself I'm not interested in talking to a wanna be child pusher!

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Blah blah blah. Fuck you.
You wanted to hurt my rep. That's all.
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I do hate you but just the same
So.. I just wanna make this clear. You did know whose site teenmafia was before you posted. You only wanted to hurt me by posting it. Now you can think that you're so much better, and actually think that people think I push CP? I doubt that. Anyone can come here to talk shit, like you do.. but to call someone a child-porn peddler is not nice.. especially since every single picture is legal. You're such an asshole.. I can't even begin to imagine how fucking jealous person you are. You can't come to my level, you try to bring me down to yours? Never.

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Obviously you don't give a fuck about anything as long as you get paid so I'm not going to waste my time trying to make you see the deffrence between right and wrong.
This is the fucking joke of the year. Did I get kicked off 2 BBS's? Did I publicly say I like to steal pictures from other sites? Did I defend rape sites on BBS's? No.. can you guess who did?
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I'm getting tired of these kiddie porn hysteria posts myself.

Child pornography is CHILDREN being MOLESTED, not some chick who might possibly - if placed at the right angle, in the right lighting, shaved, and put in pigtails - look a year or two underage.

Morons.

Trying to fuck up someones business by making unprovable KP charges is even more despicable. The idiot who started this thread should be banned imo.

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Since you brought that point up I have a valid question. Are underage girls posing nude but not in hardcore not considered CP? There is a site online as we speak that has been turned in numerous times and their defense is that these are candid photos nothing hardcore or sexual so i't not covered under obscenity, cp, etc. Does someone know the facts on this? This site is based in the United States and it is very disturbing. They clearly state that these are underage girls on the site.

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To tell the fucking secrets of my site, here I go.
The thumbnails are run by a php-script. the more the thumb is clicked the higher it gets among the pics. Most of those thumbs don't even lead to a gallery, they're there to keep my traffic up. I don't get any money from any of those galleries.. the sole purpose of the thumbs is to maintain traffic. Now, if I change them to some lame babe pics that are obviously 25+ years old, my traffic drops 30k in one day. I'm not prepared to do that.
WTF? This is a lame excuse to promote your site! So your reasoning is that if visitors are liking the underage looking thumbs, and maybe they are legal, but the implication is they depict underage fanatsies that you can condone this??

Your morals are fucked!!! CP in any form, be it real or simulated should be and I hope soon illegal. You only are pushing the grey area to increase your $$ without any thought to the harm it may or will do.

I have read your posts in the past and repsected what you said, but from this day forward I think much less of your opinion.

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Since you brought that point up I have a valid question. Are underage girls posing nude but not in hardcore not considered CP?
If the picture in question shows an underage person posed in a manner that constitutes a "lewd & lascivious exhibition" of genetalia, then yeah, it can and has been prosecuted as CP. Note that the "lewd and lascivious" qualification doesn't necessarily include nakedness. On the other hand there is a book by a photographer.. I forget the name.. sold in a couple of major US bookstore chains which features b&w nudes of underage teens and preadolescents.

So.. strangely enough.. you could get busted for CP if you posed clothed kids in a lewd manner, but not if you posed them naked in an artistic manner.

Its a fine line tho, you never know what a jury will be willing interpret as lascivious...

Disclaimer: I'm not a Lawyer, so don't take this as legal advice. Just giving my opinion from what I've read and the cases I've heard about in the US.

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Your morals are fucked!!! CP in any form, be it real or simulated should be and I hope soon illegal. You only are pushing the grey area to increase your $$ without any thought to the harm it may or will do.
What CP? What harm?
Do you think sites like rotten.com make people murder? Get a grip.
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What CP? What harm?
Do you think sites like rotten.com make people murder? Get a grip.
By your own statement you have stated that you aren't responsable for CP because the DD site said it wasn't, also you state that they most clicked pict gets raised up on your page, which looks like the "CP simulation" is what drives people on your site.

As for rotten.com, who knows? I think people are more enraged with CP and the fact that most pedo's are looking for this crap.

If any one needs to get a grip, it would be you. You are living in a distored world of motivation. $$$

I read all this thread, Chokers and some stuff at NewbieWebmaster and sorry but I would say that the majority is not on your way of reasoning.

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Regarding what you may class as virtual child porn or depicting 18-21 teens as younger.

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If the picture in question shows an underage person posed in a manner that constitutes a "lewd & lascivious exhibition" of genetalia, then yeah, it can and has been prosecuted as CP. Note that the "lewd and lascivious" qualification doesn't necessarily include nakedness. On the other hand there is a book by a photographer.. I forget the name.. sold in a couple of major US bookstore chains which features b&w nudes of underage teens and preadolescents.

So.. strangely enough.. you could get busted for CP if you posed clothed kids in a lewd manner, but not if you posed them naked in an artistic manner.

Its a fine line tho, you never know what a jury will be willing interpret as lascivious...

Disclaimer: I'm not a Lawyer, so don't take this as legal advice. Just giving my opinion from what I've read and the cases I've heard about in the US.
That is definately sad. They need to ddos attack these dipshits.
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By your own statement you have stated that you aren't responsable for CP because the DD site said it wasn't, also you state that they most clicked pict gets raised up on your page, which looks like the "CP simulation" is what drives people on your site.
Yes? Why would I be responsible for CP if my site has none? And what CP simulation?
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If any one needs to get a grip, it would be you. You are living in a distored world of motivation. $$$
What's your motivation, if not money? God damn, this is a fucking business for me, not a damn hobby.

For the tenth time, I AM NOT DOING ANYTHING ILLEGAL.
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I don't know. But you stated that you get more traffic, which I would assume means $$ unless this is your hobby.

Also I looked at your page, saw those pictures and in my judgment they look like CP to me. I had my girlfriend look also she agreed.

I think you are living on the edge with this crap. Play it anyway you want. It's your site, your value system so who am I to tell you different. I know I would walk from some of those picts and sites. But hey, that's me and since I am in the US I guess I am more concerned of going to jail and getting my name ruined. We are not just in the adult biz, but a very large mainstream dev company.

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I'm getting tired of these kiddie porn hysteria posts myself.

Child pornography is CHILDREN being MOLESTED, not some chick who might possibly - if placed at the right angle, in the right lighting, shaved, and put in pigtails - look a year or two underage.

Morons.

Trying to fuck up someones business by making unprovable KP charges is even more despicable. The idiot who started this thread should be banned imo.
I highly agree with you. I have one ass hole and dam sure can't use another one in my business. I read some of this NastyJack's post on another board sometime ago ( was on Kevin's board) he's a fucking Pin Head, and dumber that a fucking rock. Kevin he's the main reason I haven't been 2 your board for months.
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that shits so old..dont tell me cp never ACCIDENTLY slipped through the cracks on any of your sites because half of you dont know where the fuck your content originates from.
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NastyJack.. you were asking a while back how to get traffic to your site.. well, it seems you figured it out all by yourself.
I've had 407 visitors from this thread.. I bet it's twice as much as you get weekly..

I still think you're a worthless piece of shit, troublemaker.. and I won't forget. I never forget. Not that it might mean anything for you... or anyone.
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problem is, she is goina start losing that youthfull feel soon, I can already notice it in her snatch and tits. The BEST feeling woman is a fresh 19 year old, damn they are tight, tight asses, tight tits, tights hahahahas (non-slutts only)
I find it so funny how some ppl think that as women get older their pussy gets larger...??? Are you braindead!!! Our pussy is not like a pair of jeans.

"The BEST feeling woman is a fresh 19 year old, damn they are tight, tight asses, tight tits, tights hahahahas (non-slutts only)"

"fresh"??? I didn't know women had expiry dates on their foreheads.





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Old 01-25-2003, 10:38 AM   #135
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I find it so funny how some ppl think that as women get older their pussy gets larger...??? Are you braindead!!! Our pussy is not like a pair of jeans.

"The BEST feeling woman is a fresh 19 year old, damn they are tight, tight asses, tight tits, tights hahahahas (non-slutts only)"

"fresh"??? I didn't know women had expiry dates on their foreheads.





Not on your foreheads but yes you do have an expiration date.
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Old 01-25-2003, 11:00 AM   #136
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Old 01-25-2003, 01:03 PM   #137
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If it?s not CP, it certainly is implied. That kind of shit is bad news for everyone.
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Old 01-25-2003, 02:36 PM   #138
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I cant find even one gallery of www.youngporn.net on TGF wesbite.
But there are simple rules regarding the CP online.
If you are running a sponsorship program you have to keep the records of your models.
There will be many entities who will ask for that especcially in teen niche.
If you are running a free wesbite and your content based on promotional content of sponsor programs ,
then to protect yourself promote only those websites which have the records link on the splash/tour pages of the site.
If the site using well known billing company almost sure they have already asked for the letter from the company lawyers which confirms the legal age.
If the wesbite you promote dont have such link and you cant get the link from them, then stop promote it.It is illegal.
did anyone say he had youngporn.net?
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Old 01-25-2003, 02:37 PM   #139
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MET? Here is met's legal page

All models displayed on the site are 18 years or older. The owners and operators of this Website are not the primary producer (as that term is defined in 18 USC section 2257) of any of the visual content contained in the Website. The Custodian of Records for this Website is:

Lawrence A Stanley
ESQ. PO box 2377
New York, N.Y 10185

BULLSHIT, there is NO fucking way any of those girls are 18+
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Old 01-25-2003, 02:41 PM   #140
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WTF? This is a lame excuse to promote your site! So your reasoning is that if visitors are liking the underage looking thumbs, and maybe they are legal, but the implication is they depict underage fanatsies that you can condone this??

Your morals are fucked!!! CP in any form, be it real or simulated should be and I hope soon illegal. You only are pushing the grey area to increase your $$ without any thought to the harm it may or will do.

I have read your posts in the past and repsected what you said, but from this day forward I think much less of your opinion.

Flame away
You sumemd up everything I think about "pushing" the grey area. But he is entitled to his opinion i guess.
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Old 01-25-2003, 02:45 PM   #141
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this thread is pretty fucking stupid. so is that chicken board thread.


for example...

http://www.teenmafia.com/youngteens/1/


that girl is over 18. her name is ashley, she's done a fuckload of sets. i think some are available at david lace. i know she's done content for fucking machines AND als scan.

she is skinny. she has tiny tits. boooo hoooo hoooo hooooo. cry cry cry, whinge whinge whinge.

some of you pricks really have to learn, there ARE skinny girls out there with no tits that are over 18 years of age, believe me.



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I'm getting tired of these kiddie porn hysteria posts myself.

Child pornography is CHILDREN being MOLESTED, not some chick who might possibly - if placed at the right angle, in the right lighting, shaved, and put in pigtails - look a year or two underage.

Morons.

Trying to fuck up someones business by making unprovable KP charges is even more despicable. The idiot who started this thread should be banned imo

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I find it so funny how some ppl think that as women get older their pussy gets larger...??? Are you braindead!!! Our pussy is not like a pair of jeans.

"The BEST feeling woman is a fresh 19 year old, damn they are tight, tight asses, tight tits, tights hahahahas (non-slutts only)"

"fresh"??? I didn't know women had expiry dates on their foreheads.





It's called "I'm FUCING KIDDING"
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Old 01-25-2003, 03:02 PM   #143
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There are heavy laws against anything that implies being underage.
Wrong.

Teen Fantasy was recently approved. Yay for all of us. Teens are fun.

Please read something about the 'laws' you claim to know.

http://www.lawrencewalters.com/virtual_article.php3

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You know you base your accusations on your personal opinions... it has very little to do with law.
Rarely do the accusers seek any validity. They 'think' they know... they think they know, they think they know.

Only finger pointing and Keyboard Politics. They yap yap yap and have never sat down with a lawyer.

All of you fuckers need a new bookmark.

http://www.lawrencewalters.com

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Old 01-25-2003, 03:06 PM   #144
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I personally enjoy the excitement whether this will affect my business with people or not. It's very fucking thrilling to spend hours replying to the same thread on 4 different BBS's...

but I can't please them all I guess.
I still hate NastyJack for the retard he is, that has also little to do with this thread.

Fyi. Teenmafia is going to change, not because of these threads.. but because the traffic has started to suck. Too many hitbotters and shit.
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Old 01-25-2003, 03:10 PM   #145
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anyone know where i can buy some underage content for my mega site? thanks
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Old 01-25-2003, 03:32 PM   #146
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Rarely do the accusers seek any validity. They 'think' they know... they think they know, they think they know.

Only finger pointing and Keyboard Politics. They yap yap yap and have never sat down with a lawyer.

All of you fuckers need a new bookmark.

http://www.lawrencewalters.com
Finaly someone showed proof of something legible. Now before anyone pigeons me as a keyboard lawyer, I was expressing an opinion on the most part, That using anything depicting anyone under 18 is IMORAL. Maybe some of you jumped teh gun too much and automaticaly asumed I was acusing people of breaking laws and shit, I was stating an opinion on how imoral and stupid it is to use pics depicting anything under 18 wheather they are actualy of age or not.
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Old 01-25-2003, 04:05 PM   #147
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There are two thumbs from real child porn images on the main page, they are too small for anyone to be 100% sure but the originals will confirm it.

On linked pages I found 4 lolitafix pix (models under 18) and 2 lolita life pix models aged 12 -14


Suggest the owner starts cleaning up this shit fast.
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There are two thumbs from real child porn images on the main page, they are too small for anyone to be 100% sure but the originals will confirm it
you talkin about the thumbs from exploitedteensasia and rawthai?


they're legal... as far as i can see, there is nothing illegal on that page.
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There are two thumbs from real child porn images on the main page, they are too small for anyone to be 100% sure but the originals will confirm it.

On linked pages I found 4 lolitafix pix (models under 18) and 2 lolita life pix models aged 12 -14


Suggest the owner starts cleaning up this shit fast.
Which ones are you referring to? Because I'm 99.9% sure this is all legit stuff.
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Old 01-25-2003, 04:20 PM   #150
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you talkin about the thumbs from exploitedteensasia and rawthai?


they're legal... as far as i can see, there is nothing illegal on that page.

Are they ! I can assure you they are not. I have been in the NN and nude teen business for 4 + years and know exactly whats what.

Produce the evidence that they are legal other than an overlayed ID made by some Thai or Russian kiddy porn dealer.

From a Russian server I can have the original called up to one image on your main page and you most certainly wont like the results.
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