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Old 01-25-2003, 04:56 AM   #51
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The content is legit. Go bitch at the sponsor that gave out this content, ask for model releases/proof of age, but don't bash TGF *AGAIN* with the same old shit

We're sick of it already, move the fuck along
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nastyjack you're so fucking dumb. just click on a thumb and you'll see the same fucking thumbs on our trades! damn man are you too lazy to take a look at the fucking galleries? it's not even our content. and before you post shit like that, contact the fucking webmaster first. add me to your ICQ bitch.
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http://chickenboard.com//read.php?f=6&i=2634&t=2634 - my site gets bashed here
http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/sh...threadid=47737 - my site gets bashed here.


What the fuck is wrong with you people. Why my site is in the fucking crossfire all the time. If you haven't noticed around 200 TGP's use the fucking same thumbs as I do. Have you considered the fact that this shit might hurt a persons reputation? Of course you have.. That is what makes you scum NastyJack.. not me. If you're jealous because you're a no-good amateur porn-peddler who can't even get fucking traffic.. it doesn't mean you should attack other webmasters who've made it. Report my fucking site to asacp, don't bring it to public boards whore.

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Just because 200 ohter sites use them doesn't make them legal. True, nobody knows for usre if they are illegal or not. True, having those pics will get you more clicks. True, it may be possible that it is just feeding surfers lookign for child porn. But do I give a shit ? FALSE. If in fact it turns out to be CP all hell will let loose, thats 200 less tgp's pushing those thumbs that will not exists anymore. And as far as I'm concerned, the less places for pedo's to get off the better and safer the world will be for 13 year old girls. Weather the pics are legal or not is not the issue for that last statement, moreso, proffiting from pedo's using yoru these "young" lookign pics to fullfill or build on their fantasies.

Putting the legality of the sites and pics aside, can you actualy stomach the fact that Mr 45 Year Old Closet Pedo Sr. is out looking for underage girls on the net to wank off, only to find your site (and 200 more the same) and increse his sex drive for young girls and possibly commiting an offence the next time (or if mid jerk) he see's a 13 year old IN REAL LIFE. Can you stomach the fact that pics like these are the "boudary" of what is wrong even if they are legal pics? Keep in mind, with every passing year, a person needs something MORE extreme to fill his boots. Who's to say that person won't get a taste for young girls and do something about it.

If you had a daughter (assuming you don;t because no father would do this shit) how would you feel about 200 porn sites targetting perverts lookign for 13-16 year old porn all the while your daughter is 13-16. Hell, would you push thumb-links to galleries containg girls that LOOK as mature as your 13-16 y/o daughter. Or how would you feel if some webmasters took pic sof your 16 year old daughter as "art" and put them up on the internet.


I am not flamming you at all bud, just letting you that maybe these are the reasons so many people get pissed off about your sites. By using this type of content you are probably limiting yourself to a very narow line of webmasters willing to do biz with you. Sometimes it's better to take slow traffic and clickage as oposed to soething so "up in the air"

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The content is legit. Go bitch at the sponsor that gave out this content, ask for model releases/proof of age, but don't bash TGF *AGAIN* with the same old shit

We're sick of it already, move the fuck along
If youve seen the chickenbaord thread, you will see that proof has been asked, and the run-around has been given back.
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If youve seen the chickenbaord thread, you will see that proof has been asked, and the run-around has been given back.
It's not his responsibility in the first place. I use tons of free content that sponsors give out. They better have the proof of age, because I'm sure as hell not gonna check for it for every set I use.
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Umm... iwantchixx are you alright?
What you worry?

edit: Gotta add a few things.

First of all daddy's darling site is NOT and art site. They don't have ART pictures there that are obviously underage girls. They have full hardcore shoots.. if those were illegal I doubt they'd be around. You have a weak stomach if you think my site is even remotely a CP site... I really don't condone CP in any way.. and my site has none. Stop crying.
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iwantchixx, you're true but this is why it's called a Teen TGP.
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It's not his responsibility in the first place. I use tons of free content that sponsors give out. They better have the proof of age, because I'm sure as hell not gonna check for it for every set I use.

It's anyone who uses the pic's responsibility to find proof of age for questionable material before going public with the site. If it would have bene me getting the run-around that would tell me all I need to know right there and pull the pics.
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It's anyone who uses the pic's responsibility to find proof of age for questionable material before going public with the site. If it would have bene me getting the run-around that would tell me all I need to know right there and pull the pics.
umm are you telling us we didn't know those chicks were 18+?
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If questions arise and a sponsor is giving a hard time I'd pull it too, but it's a large sponsor, they most likely dont get into any shit by posting underage content...

Still, I'd pull it if the sponsor refuses to give any info ...
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iwantchixx, you're true but this is why it's called a Teen TGP.
I guess thats the politics of TEEN tgp's. All questionable material...

But really, teen is 18 to 21 is it not (in adult world anyways)

There are heavy laws against anything that implies being underage. I'm quite surpised that 90 percent of the teen tgp's aren't dead yet.
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It's anyone who uses the pic's responsibility to find proof of age for questionable material before going public with the site. If it would have bene me getting the run-around that would tell me all I need to know right there and pull the pics.
I had an email conversation with daddys darling.. and they assured everything was 100% legal. What else you want me to fucking do? Why don't mind your own business.. or go catch criminals or something.
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I'm quite surpised that 90 percent of the teen tgp's aren't dead yet.
...and this doesn't tell you something? Like maybe there's nothing wrong with it?
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I guess thats the politics of TEEN tgp's. All questionable material...

But really, teen is 18 to 21 is it not (in adult world anyways)

There are heavy laws against anything that implies being underage. I'm quite surpised that 90 percent of the teen tgp's aren't dead yet.
lol you don't know a lot about tgp's, don't you?
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umm are you telling us we didn't know those chicks were 18+?
DO you know FOR SURE they are 18+?

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I'm happy everyone stopped flamming, makes for more inteligent convorsations
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DO you know FOR SURE they are 18+?

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I'm happy everyone stopped flamming, makes for more inteligent convorsations
yes I do.
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lol you don't know a lot about tgp's, don't you?

why? because I consider teen porn to be 18-21 and anything that implies or IS younger is not proper teen LEGAL porn?
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DO you know FOR SURE they are 18+?
So they assured me. They have also their real address on their website for custodian of records (sp?). There's not much more I can do from here to confirm they're legal.
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yes I do.
Well maybe show everyone this poof and everyoen will let it be and chalk it all up to a learning experience, and maybe it will let the other "200" tgp's bretahe easier.
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So they assured me. They have also their real address on their website for custodian of records (sp?). There's not much more I can do from here to confirm they're legal.
Ok so if i put up a real adress on a CP site and asured you it was all legal girls, you would belive me?
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Ok so if i put up a real adress on a CP site and asured you it was all legal girls, you would belive me?
Yes. Since if it was your real address, and you'd be doing something wrong.. you'd have a visit from your local feds. you wouldn't be doing that for long.
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...and this doesn't tell you something? Like maybe there's nothing wrong with it?
sigh..... almost every teen tgp pushes MET and DD, MET is definately CP, yet they are still active,,, think about it. Thats what surprises me
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Yes. Since if it was your real address, and you'd be doing something wrong.. you'd have a visit from your local feds. you wouldn't be doing that for long.

Aren't they from a country with lax laws regarding cp?
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Well maybe show everyone this poof and everyoen will let it be and chalk it all up to a learning experience, and maybe it will let the other "200" tgp's bretahe easier.
Well.. I'll post this again:

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To: "Jakke Pivo" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Free content to promote you
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:10:14 +0100
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106
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Hello,

we know that there are a lot of discussions out there about our site (and a whole bunch of other sites as well).
But again : our site is not illegal ! We carefully check all ID's of our models to make sure they are at least 18 years of age before any video or picture of them is taken. We have no underage people working for us.
We do not have childporn, and we do we support this either !
I forwarded your message already to the webmaster of this site and he's taking care of this.

We have nothing to hide (this is why we even have our main postal address online).

Please contact us again if you have any further questions.

With best regards
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Hi,

If it comes down to that you DO have model releases for every picture set
proving they're over 18 years of age, right?
I'm having a small debate here from people claiming that you have underage
models, and hence my TGP is a childporn site:
http://chickenboard.com//read.php?f=6&i=2634&t=2634
Please if you find time post there and shut them up, or atleast assure me
all your pictures are legal.
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Can you PLEASE tell me what else you expect me to do? Do you fucking check every single gallery on your TGP for proof of age??
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Aren't they from a country with lax laws regarding cp?
No. They're from the netherlands = 18 years of age is the legal limit.

edit: Atleast that's what I've understood.. that they're from holland.
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sigh..... almost every teen tgp pushes MET and DD, MET is definately CP, yet they are still active,,, think about it. Thats what surprises me
Could you point me to a site that uses MET. I don't know of any.
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Can you PLEASE tell me what else you expect me to do? Do you fucking check every single gallery on your TGP for proof of age??
No but I use good judgement. If a girl looks 13, I won't use it.
When it comes to MET and DD I don't care if it IS legal. It's the fact that I would be feeding pedo's with kerk off material to fullfill their fantasies. It's just as bad as profiting from child porn.
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When it comes to MET and DD I don't care if it IS legal.
So I gather.
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No. They're from the netherlands = 18 years of age is the legal limit.

edit: Atleast that's what I've understood.. that they're from holland.
Actually, a few years ago the limit was 16/17 I believe... That's before they toughened up the laws.

Not 100% sure but might be worth checking out if they're really from Holland
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Could you point me to a site that uses MET. I don't know of any.
hrm.... milkmanbook.com obviously. Tinyeve.net , uhm.... angelweb.net (might be .com or .org, I dunno, I avoid it) and THOUSANDS more, but thats all the one's i know the url to.
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hrm.... milkmanbook.com obviously. Tinyeve.net , uhm.... angelweb.net (might be .com or .org, I dunno, I avoid it) and THOUSANDS more, but thats all the one's i know the url to.
Isn't it sad that you know those by heart? You know you base your accusations on your personal opinions... it has very little to do with law.
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Actually, a few years ago the limit was 16/17 I believe... That's before they toughened up the laws.

Not 100% sure but might be worth checking out if they're really from Holland
Ya know, it wouldn't bother so much if it weren't for the fact of pedo's getting off on the shit, a young woman is a beutiful thing to capture in youth. But not buck naked and bent over implying you-know-what. Afterall, when I was 16/17 I was chasing 16/17 y/o's :p But I was 16/17. Not some 45 year old who wants to explore every hole. heh
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Isn't it sad that you know those by heart? You know you base your accusations on your personal opinions... it has very little to do with law.
You make it sound like i frequent them.... which I don't, they are well known sites. There are galleries hosted on those 3 servers everywhere. Hell i just got done deleting a few from submissions.
I base my so called "acusations" on morality AND law. ALl I'm saying is that to promote such questionable content is not teh smartest thing to do, nor the most moral. I ahev an opinion and I'm entitled to it. I was trying to fucking point out to you WHY ppl get pissed off at you. I'm not runnign around the net screaming "TGF is a CP freak!" I'm just suggestiong you run a tighter ship to keep threads like this that ruin your biz to a minimum.
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btw, i have a photographic memory, something i seen for 2 seconds a year ago can still be recalled....... so don't insinuate that i frequent them...
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You make it sound like i frequent them.... which I don't, they are well known sites. There are galleries hosted on those 3 servers everywhere. Hell i just got done deleting a few from submissions.
I base my so called "acusations" on morality AND law. ALl I'm saying is that to promote such questionable content is not teh smartest thing to do, nor the most moral. I ahev an opinion and I'm entitled to it. I was trying to fucking point out to you WHY ppl get pissed off at you. I'm not runnign around the net screaming "TGF is a CP freak!" I'm just suggestiong you run a tighter ship to keep threads like this that ruin your biz to a minimum.
Well.. you make it sound like I'm the scum of the earth, which I am not. This thread was started by NastyJack for the sole purpose of trying to soil my reputation. He hates my guts, because I tell him he's scum. Which he is. He knew perfectly well whose site teenmafia is before he started the thread... So it's not about my content, but about the motherfuckers who try to make it look bad.

NastyJack I expect a reply when your shift @ McD ends.
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I don't get it... If there is a sponsor that has cp and are telling webmasters that every model is over 18 and now a ton of webmaster promote them, Then why bring out teenmafia instead of the sponsor? Wouldnt you rather go to the person that is making the pics? TGF migh have partner accounts. One day a partner posts up a gallery from www.younporn.net who has told alot of webmasters that all there models are over 18... And now TGF is to blame?

This doesnt really sound like its a cp issue. I know about 1,000 webmaster who have had youporn.net content... I even had to ask about it. I got a hold of them on ICQ they showed licenses of there models. They are all over 18 or 18 years of age. Daddy's darling I am not sure of. Don't know don't care really. I don't promote them...

I think instead of getting on one webmasters ass then you would have to fight tons of webmasters. There are tons of big TGP that use there content. Why are you guys not going after them?

Why do you go after the webmaster that was told the models where 18 or above instead of the content provider? If the content provider does have cp I don't think they would of lasted this long...

It's like alot of poeple are pissed at TGF and trying to trash talk him for something...
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Ya know, it wouldn't bother so much if it weren't for the fact of pedo's getting off on the shit, a young woman is a beutiful thing to capture in youth. But not buck naked and bent over implying you-know-what. Afterall, when I was 16/17 I was chasing 16/17 y/o's :p But I was 16/17. Not some 45 year old who wants to explore every hole. heh
Well I've been looking at porn and dating/fucking girls at a young age. I remember being 16/17 and liking the 13/14 year olds. When I was 18 I dated a 15 year old (which is technically not legal). I think in general men like young looking girls, and there seems to be biological/genetical support for that as well (I explained this before in another teenmafia.com bashing thread). The teen niche isn't huge for nothing. These guys aren't pedos in the making, they're 100% healthy and normal guys. Girls that are sexually ripe, regardless of their age (sexually ripe could easily be 15/16) appeal to men because they make good child-bearers - that's genetics for ya.

HOWEVER, needless to say I do not condone 15/16 year olds in porn. 18 is the legal limit we've all agreed on and anyone crossing it should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. But that doesn't mean that young looking girls cater to pedos IF they look sexually ripe. One thing doesn't mean the other, if you're still following me.

Real pedos are into kids as objects of their sexual perversions. There *is* a difference. However after multiple stirs, I'd still advise TGF to get the proof from the sponsor... It'll clear the waters once and for all
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This is what Diesel told every alot of people

"Fuck its VERY simple..
By the law you have to keep the records of the models you are posting on your wesbite.
DONT post any models you dont have the records for!


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Well.. you make it sound like I'm the scum of the earth, which I am not. This thread was started by NastyJack for the sole purpose of trying to soil my reputation. He hates my guts, because I tell him he's scum. Which he is. He knew perfectly well whose site teenmafia is before he started the thread... So it's not about my content, but about the motherfuckers who try to make it look bad.

NastyJack I expect a reply when your shift @ McD ends.

probably the reason he did, but it still opened up a nasty can of worms that needs to be discused in the Adult w/m world. If you belive in yourself and feel that your belifs are true, I aplaud you for sticking to yoru guns even though i feel it is imoral to cash in on something that can possibly feed pedo's, but sometimes it does help to see things from the oposition's view.


Now when da fuck is Lesman goina put a frikin spellchecker in here, hehe I am fed up with spell chekcing my shit , so from now on, I'll be known as being tuant in flypo...
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Yeah. Lets see if we can hit 900 cause we all know gfy is all about the numbers
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probably the reason he did, but it still opened up a nasty can of worms that needs to be discused in the Adult w/m world. If you belive in yourself and feel that your belifs are true, I aplaud you for sticking to yoru guns even though i feel it is imoral to cash in on something that can possibly feed pedo's, but sometimes it does help to see things from the oposition's view.


Now when da fuck is Lesman goina put a frikin spellchecker in here, hehe I am fed up with spell chekcing my shit , so from now on, I'll be known as being tuant in flypo...
This nasty can of worms has been opened on 4 different bbs's now. You have no fucking idea how annoying this is.
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I don't get it... If there is a sponsor that has cp and are telling webmasters that every model is over 18 and now a ton of webmaster promote them, Then why bring out teenmafia instead of the sponsor? Wouldnt you rather go to the person that is making the pics? TGF migh have partner accounts. One day a partner posts up a gallery from www.younporn.net who has told alot of webmasters that all there models are over 18... And now TGF is to blame?

This doesnt really sound like its a cp issue. I know about 1,000 webmaster who have had youporn.net content... I even had to ask about it. I got a hold of them on ICQ they showed licenses of there models. They are all over 18 or 18 years of age. Daddy's darling I am not sure of. Don't know don't care really. I don't promote them...

I think instead of getting on one webmasters ass then you would have to fight tons of webmasters. There are tons of big TGP that use there content. Why are you guys not going after them?

Why do you go after the webmaster that was told the models where 18 or above instead of the content provider? If the content provider does have cp I don't think they would of lasted this long...

It's like alot of poeple are pissed at TGF and trying to trash talk him for something...
I don;t think anyone including msyelf is trashing TGF in particular, with the exception of NJ, he hates him
It's just such a grey area topic that sometimes comes out of the woodwork, and unfortunate it centers around TGF, but really, TGF is just an example of one of teh many tgp's using the shifty content,
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To tell the fucking secrets of my site, here I go.
The thumbnails are run by a php-script. the more the thumb is clicked the higher it gets among the pics. Most of those thumbs don't even lead to a gallery, they're there to keep my traffic up. I don't get any money from any of those galleries.. the sole purpose of the thumbs is to maintain traffic. Now, if I change them to some lame babe pics that are obviously 25+ years old, my traffic drops 30k in one day. I'm not prepared to do that.

I don't know how much traffic your TGP has, and I won't discuss mine.. but I WILL NOT risk the traffic to please you.. or anyone. I'm not doing anything illegal, hence I hate these threads with passion.
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