Mailer Traffic

[marlboroack]

Anyone out there wanna teach me how to do it and be my mentor?

Links? Apointments? Training?

[adultzone]

Google is your teacher, I post here last month I guess and nobody teach so I try to search on google so I got my answer.

[cooldude7]

what u wanna know ?

how to spam ?

[SallyRand]

Originally Posted by cooldude7

what u wanna know ?

how to spam ?

"Spam"?

Do you even know the real meaning of the term?

All so-called "spam" is in point of fact, NOT spam!

Much of what is termed "spam" is perfectly legal commercial emailing.

Certain kinds of commercial emailing sent by certain entities need not comply with CAN-SPAM and may quite legally be blasted out across the entire planet without fear of legal hassles. People have come to define ALL commerical emailing or for that matter, any sort of mailing they don't like as "spam".

It is also perfectly legal and very, very effective to mail for adult as long as certain guidlines are followed. Betcha didn't know that, didja?

In any case, commerical emailing is the way of the future, like it or not and call it what you will, commerical emailing works!

[marlboroack]

Well, currently I'm the largest Chat Traffic guy to date. But as you all know it's pretty fuckin hard these days and is nothing like it was years ago. These mailer guys are making bank single handed compared to my offices in Asia selling via chat. I was reading a bit on google and their are limits on sending mass emails legally. So i gotta learn from the best, cops are not to happy with where i am at now. Even caught a cop behind my house in his car on my network not to long ago using a man in the middle attack seeing what I'm doing. It freaked the shit out of me.

I have 1.2 million emails here, some going as far back as 1998! I'm willing to sell for 1 person, just need to learn the art!

[marlboroack]

There is more dicking around here now than people who will actually answer questions. That's fucked up, I'm sure lot's of people here can answer this one... bump...

[Puremeds-J]

emails older than 6 months old drop in value and in my opinion aren't worth sending.

[adultzone]

Yes its true, 6 months old email does not make any sense. If you want to be a email marketer you should learn Email Marketing 101 here>> https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=959620

and email marketing 102 >> https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=978107

hit me up if you need a software to send bulk email

[cooldude7]

Originally Posted by SallyRand

"Spam"?

Do you even know the real meaning of the term?

All so-called "spam" is in point of fact, NOT spam!

Much of what is termed "spam" is perfectly legal commercial emailing.

Certain kinds of commercial emailing sent by certain entities need not comply with CAN-SPAM and may quite legally be blasted out across the entire planet without fear of legal hassles. People have come to define ALL commerical emailing or for that matter, any sort of mailing they don't like as "spam".

It is also perfectly legal and very, very effective to mail for adult as long as certain guidlines are followed. Betcha didn't know that, didja?

In any case, commerical emailing is the way of the future, like it or not and call it what you will, commerical emailing works!

at the end of the day its spam for the end user/surfer.

sorry if i hurt ur feelings though.

[cooldude7]

Originally Posted by marlboroack

There is more dicking around here now than people who will actually answer questions. That's fucked up, I'm sure lot's of people here can answer this one... bump...

i really wanted to help u, but u didnt gave an answer, my question wasnt sarcastic.

okie., for legal email sending u can do it using .,

phplist or any other bulk mailing software/script., load emails in it and bang.

for illegal use.,

u need mass/bulk email sender + paid proxies + smtp relay server's (alot)

u can get script for free for searching for those smtp relay server.,

have a blast.

ps. if anybody thinks i am wrong , teach me .

[adultzone]

Originally Posted by cooldude7

i really wanted to help u, but u didnt gave an answer, my question wasnt sarcastic.

okie., for legal email sending u can do it using .,

phplist or any other bulk mailing software/script., load emails in it and bang.

for illegal use.,

u need mass/bulk email sender + paid proxies + smtp relay server's (alot)

u can get script for free for searching for those smtp relay server.,

have a blast.

ps. if anybody thinks i am wrong , teach me .

What I did is I bought VPS server from hostgator and I used sendblaster hehehe

[cooldude7]

Originally Posted by adultzone

What I did is I bought VPS server from hostgator and I used sendblaster hehehe

looks good , but imho the difficult task is building email list

[Markul]

There's a lot of work involved with keeping your server whitelisted.

My mainstream company has build a mailer engine for one of our clients and am maintaining the system, including MS JMRP and other spam compliant actions involved. It's a lot of work.

They currently send out about 1-2 million mails every day.

If you need any pointers (or software) hit me up on ICQ.

[adultzone]

Originally Posted by cooldude7

looks good , but imho the difficult task is building email list

That would be very easy with me. I can get thousands of emails in just 24 hours but adult niche only.

Originally Posted by Markul

There's a lot of work involved with keeping your server whitelisted.

My mainstream company has build a mailer engine for one of our clients and am maintaining the system, including MS JMRP and other spam compliant actions involved. It's a lot of work.

They currently send out about 1-2 million mails every day.

If you need any pointers (or software) hit me up on ICQ.

Its true but I dont usually send million emails everyday I only send 1 to 2 emails in a week just making sure that I wont get blacklisted from free email service

[Markul]

Originally Posted by adultzone

That would be very easy with me. I can get thousands of emails in just 24 hours but adult niche only.



Its true but I dont usually send million emails everyday I only send 1 to 2 emails in a week just making sure that I wont get blacklisted from free email service

Fair enough and I also only do mainstream mailing as it is

[marlboroack]

Adultzone, added you and messaged you on ICQ 3-4x already. Markul, added and sent just now.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by marlboroack

I have 1.2 million emails here, some going as far back as 1998! I'm willing to sell for 1 person, just need to learn the art!

Ok chief, here's what you need.

1. You will need some sort of 'opt-in' platform. Preferably with time, date, IP stamp.
2. Mail platform. Many to choose from. Novice to kick ass.
3. Understanding ISP and access to IP's.
4. Good cleaning service to eliminate traps and bounces. Especially with old. I recommend IW.

For smaller lists, you could get by with an ESP if you wanted. I would clean that data however before trying to mail it. If you are going to keep building up your list, you need a decent privacy policy on your sites and a way to get legal double opt-in addresses and time/date/ip/url stamp them preferably. If you are going to do this seriously, long term, and volume you really need a solid platform. That can cost you a few bucks.

There are many ways to mail and segment your data. You also have to figure out how you're going to target your data. Keep in mind if you are planning to mail adult, you need to be conscious of the Michigan and Utah laws on that which will be tricky if you did not track the data from the get go.

Good luck fine sire.

[adultzone]

Originally Posted by Markul

Fair enough and I also only do mainstream mailing as it is

will do but I dont know what to market LOL

Originally Posted by marlboroack

Adultzone, added you and messaged you on ICQ 3-4x already. Markul, added and sent just now.

I've got nothing from you.

[Markul]

Originally Posted by marlboroack

Adultzone, added you and messaged you on ICQ 3-4x already. Markul, added and sent just now.

Yea saw your message an hour later, was out with the misses to shop for some storage boxes but your offline. We'll meet online at some point

[BlackCrayon]

the easy days of mailing are gone. now you need quality double opt in lists and really screen complainers, etc. hosts will often give you a hard time. i thought the days of mailing were dead for the most part, mass mailing anyways. if you have an ex members list or something similar there are services that can handle the dirty work for you but you can't just blast a bunch of shitty old lists from god knows where.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

the easy days of mailing are gone. now you need quality double opt in lists and really screen complainers, etc. .

The easy days of anything online are over. You,....*gasp*... have to work to make some money. But there are guys making $1000.00+ per day off a single server.

Sure, you need to know what you are doing to some degree, and no it is not just some old days blast away volume game. But if you spend the time, like anything, doing the research and tweaking your lists. You can easily make some solid coin.

I personally believe webmasters who know what they are doing can make a KILLING in mailing. Especially if they know how to develop their own lists over time. Including the tracking part with the double opt-in.

[marlboroack]

Thanks for all your comments, i got an email with a book. Thought you guys would find this pretty kick ass. He said "I run www.blueplayers.com. Here is a tutorial I wrote years ago on how to do mailers via link lists.

www.blueplayers.com/tutorial.rar

THere are templates in there and much more!"

The ZIP files and such look pretty hardy. Have a look at them.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by marlboroack

Thanks for all your comments, i got an email with a book. Thought you guys would find this pretty kick ass. He said "I run www.blueplayers.com. Here is a tutorial I wrote years ago on how to do mailers via link lists.

www.blueplayers.com/tutorial.rar

THere are templates in there and much more!"

The ZIP files and such look pretty hardy. Have a look at them.

Thanks for the link top notch.

[dynastoned]

i hear spam is very profitable

lolol

[Markul]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

I personally believe webmasters who know what they are doing can make a KILLING in mailing. Especially if they know how to develop their own lists over time. Including the tracking part with the double opt-in.

´

Some key points in addition to this are:

- Split testing
- Loyalty tracking

and of course keeping your servers on the whitelists and I can tell you that alone, along with handling complaints, is AT LEAST 1-2 hours a day if you send any decent volume.

[Barefootsies]

True dat. If you are spending the time on white listing and warming up. It can take you some time to handle that.

Originally Posted by Markul

and of course keeping your servers on the whitelists and I can tell you that alone, along with handling complaints, is AT LEAST 1-2 hours a day if you send any decent volume.

If you have decent quality lists, and invest in cleaning out the hard and soft bounces, the mail traps, and other bullshit with IW (hygiene) every 2-4 weeks then you should be eliminating most of that bullshit. There are a few other tips and tricks to solve that as well in your templates.

If you are getting double digit complaints every few/days you're doing something wrong.

[marlboroack]

Originally Posted by dynastoned

i hear spam is very profitable

lolol

From what i have come to learn, it's not spamming if you play the cards right.

[marlboroack]

Have to admit this does take some skill, read so far the best mailers are in Russia. That's something i didn't know.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

The easy days of anything online are over. You,....*gasp*... have to work to make some money. But there are guys making $1000.00+ per day off a single server.

Sure, you need to know what you are doing to some degree, and no it is not just some old days blast away volume game. But if you spend the time, like anything, doing the research and tweaking your lists. You can easily make some solid coin.

I personally believe webmasters who know what they are doing can make a KILLING in mailing. Especially if they know how to develop their own lists over time. Including the tracking part with the double opt-in.

well at the very least you gotta watch that you follow the rules exactly or else you could get sued.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

well at the very least you gotta watch that you follow the rules exactly or else you could get sued.

Exactamundo.

If you are planning to do porn mailing, whether legal double opt-in or not, you need to be mindful of mailing to minors in Michigan and Utah. That will get you into trouble. It is why many simply mail the mainstream offers UNLESS they are using old pay site membership lists where you needed a credit card (i.e. over 18).

I also agree with you in regards to spending the time in regards to compliance.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by marlboroack

Have to admit this does take some skill, read so far the best mailers are in Russia. That's something i didn't know.

That depends on what you using to define "the best".

If you are talking infecting people's computers to using botnets, and not following CAN-SPAM, blasting incredible volumes of mail with reckless disregard than I suppose you would be correct. If you do not have any throttle, or rules to follow, and can use infected machines for mail there is little to stop you. By the numbers alone you would could be perceived as 'successful'.

[DobermanB]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

That depends on what you using to define "the best".

If you are talking infecting people's computers to using botnets, and not following CAN-SPAM, blasting incredible volumes of mail with reckless disregard than I suppose you would be correct. If you do not have any throttle, or rules to follow, and can use infected machines for mail there is little to stop you. By the numbers alone you would could be perceived as 'successful'.

Hey man, do you have Skype or ICQ? Can I please contact you? I have few questions, maybe you can help.

Thanks.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by DobermanB

Hey man, do you have Skype or ICQ? Can I please contact you? I have few questions, maybe you can help.

Thanks.

You can send me ICQ. I do not have Skype.

[DobermanB]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

You can send me ICQ. I do not have Skype.

And your ICQ is?

[V_RocKs]

Originally Posted by adultzone

Yes its true, 6 months old email does not make any sense. If you want to be a email marketer you should learn Email Marketing 101 here>> https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=959620

and email marketing 102 >> https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=978107

hit me up if you need a software to send bulk email

I used all of those tips... I still couldn't get my shit people opted in for into their mailboxes...

If I use those tips I might get 6% to 12% on a blast...

If I don't I get about 2% to 6%.

I have a list over over 1000 people that opted in for me to send them site reviews as I create them... And it just sucks that the IPS's can't fucking make a proper filter for spam and let me into people's inboxes that asked for my Emails...

Just not worth it to make it into 20 to 60 people's inboxes a day...

[Markul]

You want to know this place (if you run your own server... hell even if you don't, you want to): https://www.senderscore.org

And read all this stuff: http://www.returnpath.net/

And read all your server logs.. and and and

[NemesisEnforcer]

Some decent information here.

[marlboroack]

Originally Posted by Markul

You want to know this place (if you run your own server... hell even if you don't, you want to): https://www.senderscore.org

And read all this stuff: http://www.returnpath.net/

And read all your server logs.. and and and

Thanks mate, bookmarked.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by NemesisEnforcer

Some decent information here.

Contact Damian at [email protected] to set up a meeting if you would like more information on their platform, and the half price promotion going on right now.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by dobermanb

and your icq is?

icq: 298063587

[Sarah_Jayne]

If somebody has opt-in and otherwise compliant lists, I am always willing to work with them in private to make that list work for them.

[marlboroack]

I think this is the most informational thread i have started. Mailing takes mad skill, I'm still having a lot of troubles. 500 emails out, 3 uniques. Total BS

[adultzone]

Originally Posted by marlboroack

I think this is the most informational thread i have started. Mailing takes mad skill, I'm still having a lot of troubles. 500 emails out, 3 uniques. Total BS

That depends in your list, I have list of 16k and I only got 500+ unique hits.

[Anthony]

Good info in this thread.

[marlboroack]

Originally Posted by adultzone

That depends in your list, I have list of 16k and I only got 500+ unique hits.

I have so many E-mails, but my hand and arm feels like i was fingering Pornstars all day copying and pasting the emails into the program to send out. Fuck mailing It's going to take some getting used to and practice daily.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by SallyRand

"Spam"?

Do you even know the real meaning of the term?

disruptive messages, especially commercial messages posted on a computer network or sent as e-mail.

spam to most is unsolicited bulk email, just like the flyers in your mailbox..

Originally Posted by SallyRand

All so-called "spam" is in point of fact, NOT spam!

spam is spam , i think what you meant is not all spam is illegal..

Originally Posted by SallyRand

Much of what is termed "spam" is perfectly legal commercial emailing.

spam is not a legal definition it is a noun

Originally Posted by SallyRand

People have come to define ALL commerical emailing or for that matter, any sort of mailing they don't like as "spam".

read dictionary definition

Originally Posted by SallyRand

It is also perfectly legal and very, very effective to mail for adult as long as certain guidlines are followed. Betcha didn't know that, didja?

betcha everyone has received an email from gfy , betcha nobody thought they were committing an illegal act.

Originally Posted by SallyRand

In any case, commerical emailing is the way of the future,

10 years ago , yes

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

disruptive messages, especially commercial messages posted on a computer network or sent as e-mail.

spam to most is unsolicited bulk email, just like the flyers in your mailbox..


spam is spam , i think what you meant is not all spam is illegal..


spam is not a legal definition it is a noun



read dictionary definition


betcha everyone has received an email from gfy , betcha nobody thought they were committing an illegal act.

10 years ago , yes

It sounds like an old man who is completely out of touch with today's online business.

No offense.

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by marlboroack

I have so many E-mails, but my hand and arm feels like i was fingering Pornstars all day copying and pasting the emails into the program to send out. Fuck mailing It's going to take some getting used to and practice daily.

lol ...................

[Seth Manson]

Originally Posted by marlboroack

Well, currently I'm the largest Chat Traffic guy to date.

Hah! Think so? I know of others, they just dont advertise it like you do.

[Barefootsies]

For your pleasure.

GFY Educational Series: Email 101

GFY Educational Series: Email Marketing 102