Since you're back and have yet to answer the question I'll give it a try one more time.

You said when adult is a ghost town XBiz will be one of the last viable companies standing.

This has nothing to do with affiliates, you said 'last viable companies standing'. So please enlighten us noobs. If XBiz is one of the 'last viable companies standing' who will be placing ads in their trade or attending their shows? What will make them one of the 'last viable companies' standing? What do they currently have in place to replace the falling revenues when those ad dollars disappear?

I personally believe XBiz will be around in 12-24 months but I also don't think adult will be a 'ghost town' either. But you apparently do. So enlighten us. How will XBiz remain profitable, let alone be one of the last viable companies standing, when adult is a ghost town in 12-24 months (your words)? Or were you just blindly kissing ass?

Too much explaining is suspicious too ...

which part ?:winkwink:

No rants here, just finally saying what happened since you decided that professional courtesy doesn't apply to your former clients.

As for holding no water... the problem with that comment is, I can prove everything I'm saying here. If you don't like this information being explained to the good folks here at GFY, then I think maybe taking an unnecessary and unprovoked shot at a former client wasn't the best course of action.

Rackco was always professional and provided great service. Mojo is always professional and is doing a fantastic job. I'd happily recommend them both.

Dear XBIZ - Can you guys officially deny you're support for .XXX?

I for one would really like to know XBIZ position on this.

Not necessary. You win YNOT is the best...

Carry on...

:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

i am enjoying watching you ladies battle, but that speed test is a fucking joke..

it doesnt prove anything about your speed since you could shove dozens of servers on a switch with a shared 100 Mb port and the customer would be slower than dog shit..

while another customer had a dedicated port and he would be a lot faster...

with that being said...

you bitches carry on with the fighting.. :thumbsup





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Wow, this just turned ugly
Ynot, Xbiz fighting it out on an AVN site, who would have thought.

As far as the whole Xbiz being behind XXX, I don't see it, why would they run this?
http://www.xbiz.net/xhr.php?c=home.p...33268&choice=4
You can vote yourself right now on XBiz.net on the home page


As for myself, I spend time on XBIZ, Ynot and GFY, just like I don't listen to one news source in the nightly news.
You have to get your information from more than one source!

Amen. Couldn't agree with you and BF more...

I see you went back and edited this comment to mention Bob again... and sure, be happy to bring in Bob if you're in touch with him, because he also had to put up with the regular complaints about speed. And he could also tell you about the quality service we got from Rackco.

Or if he's not available, I'm sure there are emails from him to me about the speed problem.

"XBIZ is by and for professionals.

It’s like Vegas: squalid mob-run poker rooms gave way to corporate-run mega resorts, which make far more money than the early “gangsters” and mom-and-pops ever did.

Do you think the “old guard” was happy about the changes? Of course not, but big business had its way and changed the Vegas dynamic; and its visitor’s expectations.

The same thing is happening in adult today and XBIZ reflects and reports on it."

OK Wake call time...

".XXX is about big business now." Are you fucking serious?

You people over at XBIZ are in for one serious fucking let down when .XXX comes about as reality. I am sorry to inform you XBIZ is making a very big mistake and when XBIZ collapses from the industry backlash from .XXX I am going to gloat every fucking day about it.

Employee's of XBIZ mark my words your publication is in for one hell of a ride down the gutter once .XXX launches. Up a creek without a paddle.

I will be laughing my ass off at these statements in the future.
I was right about ACACIA and the smoke and mirror bullshit of that group and I been right about tons of other shit that this industry has been through and I am calling it right here and fucking now...

You guys at XBIZ are fucked without a paddle after the industry realizes they were duped by you're publication.:thumbsup

You're credibility will be less than zero.
When .XXX does not pay off due to enormous litigations and consorship you guys will be going right down the toilet with the rest of the shit this industry has needed to flush for quite sometime.

Cheer's Helmy you made a big fucking mistake and to think I patted you on the back for having the balls to launch XBIZ...

Things are going to change horribly for you guys...
You guys are right about one thing. XXX will launch but who survives is the real question and I assure you people over at XBIZ will not be thrown a life raft.

Once the industry starts facing censorship, once processing changes and once mainstream files the shit out of IFFOR you guys will not have a fucking advertising leg to stand on.

While I too like to watch bitches fight, I have to disagree with the rest of your post.

We don't oversubscribe our network. Thats not in our client's best interest or ours.

You won't find any 'unlimited bandwidth' plans on our website, so there is really no benefit in oversubscribing from our perspective. High density managed gigabit switches and 10Gbps uplinks are inexpensive enough to come by these days, it would be silly for a company to oversell their lines. We've seen our VPS servers which come with a virtual gigabit nic achieve line speed transfer rates without issue.

The speedtest link I posted is an accurate representation of a client server connection.

I wonder why he would choose to host with us now then? Hmmmm.... go figure!

Then bring him in. Let's get a reunion happening here. I'll go get Jim, Cash, Chris and Aaron and we'll meet back here at high noon tomorrow. :1orglaugh

fair enough... i'll take your word for it... :thumbsup




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How come you're still living in a trailer?

LOL, way back when dinosaurs ruled the earth and the internet was newly minted, all too often fights were picked as a way to get noticed. I'm sure XBiz is getting some new views from all this!

He was just blindly kissing ass. He wont reply back to you. he can try to play it off with me all he wants that he is just fucking with me, but you asked him nicely several times and he continues to ignore you... because he knows he is full of shit. Watch he is going to reply back to argue with me more and conveniently ignore you.

LOL, way back when bros and bitches thought they ruled the industry they would stick up for each other no matter how much trouble they got themselves into...

Hey how is your home girl Joan doing, you know you best bud in the world that would never sell us out. Hemly's home girl Joan, Hemly, the treasurer of ASACP that claims he has nothing to do with them HAHAHA...

you disappoint me son, I don't jump on band wagons, I am the one leading the band wagon, even if I am just a one man band.

I don't jump on anyone else's cause, feud, smear campaign etc... I am as non biased as they come. I have no alliances here, whether I do business with a company or not I still tell them how it is and don't play favorites and bro games, I don't kiss up to any of you fools like idiots like barefootsies trying to get scraps from your table. I don't come running in to take up for one of my *friends* because someone else is calling him out. My opinions are my own and I have come to those conclusions based on my knowledge and common sense.

For example, I don't care for Xbiz for reasons stated. I think the guys at Ynot are very friendly and have never had a problem with them. But what did I post above... I think Xbiz is by far a bigger and more successful company than Ynot. Now if I was like 99% of you blow hards here I would have posted how Xbiz sucks and Ynot kicks their ass, blah blah. I don't think Xbiz is a bad company at all, I personally have formed my OWN conclusions on the connections with ICM and ASACP's involvment and how it all ties together and therefore dont like them or would never do business with them. But that doesn't mean that I don't think they offer an inferrior service or product. I am not stupid like everyone else and think someone "sucks" just because I don't like them. All of my comments here were simply, how in the world would Xbiz or any company that relies on the adult industry being a viable place, remain in business and keep doing well as the adult industry falls apart.

Stephen you mentioned companies adapting etc... some have, absolutely, but no one can deny that most have not, a lot of companies are closing down and a lot more and cutting back on spending money on ads. A lot of webmasters/ affiliates are disappearing and quitting. When you are losing a base of readers and customers spending money on ads, its going to hurt your business and things are going to continue to just get worst for adult.

99% of you all are fucking douches... You either blindly suck cock and kiss ass of people you either A. Had drinks with, B. do business with, C. is enemies with either A or B, or D. someone you trying to suck up to. You coming running in here like a bunch of school girls at recess to stick up for your "bros". You lose all credibility and are so over the top with your defending / attacking people. Your "agenda" and "motivations" are so obvious. you don't speak the truth, you just throwing shit at the wall at someone you don;t like or you endorse someone you barely know and really don't have a clue if they did do bad things or not. No one has a back bone, they just have a big set of lips they put around each other's cocks.

quote of the muthafuckin day right there. :pimp

And i forgot "E" you won some irrelevant *award* from xbiz so now you think they the greatest and defend them till the death no matter what they do.... sad. Amazing how quickly people's intelligence gets flushed when they get a little flattery from someone. Funny how many xbiz award members are stumbling over themselves to run in here to defend them.

Funny thing is I do business with both Rackco and Webair and have not had any problems with either of them. I give credit where credit is do and expect nothing in return, I also would be the first to criticize them if I had had problems.

There will always be a market for adult entertainment — it’s been in demand since the first time a burnt, charcoal-covered tip of a stick was used to draw a big set of tits on a cave wall — and it’s still in demand today. The media, medium and delivery channels have and will continue to evolve, but the demand for porn is universal.

Making a buck from it in 2011 and beyond is another matter, but if folks are so pessimistic about the future of the business they are in, they should find another line of work to do.

I’m excited about 3D and virtual reality, haptics, mobile and the cloud. Sure there are challenges, but exploring, developing and learning from these new opportunities is what XBIZ is all about — and is the future of the adult industry.

As long as adult service providers need a B2B media channel, XBIZ will be here.

<insert inside joke>Besides, XBIZ has Grizzly Bears on its side!</insert inside joke>

Lots of whiny ass titty-babies in this thread....

:1orglaugh

http://deancapture.com/pics/WhinyAssTittyBaby.jpg

"XBIZ has Grizzly Bears on its side!"

Those same bears are the guys that put this industry where its at right now.
Or can't you not see that?

LOL! The smaller the industry becomes the less number of advertisers you get. Its that same group of guys that have always had weird aspirations to dominate the net.
They have always failed and sank the industry lower in the attempt. They line there pockets with smaller amounts with every year, and these same bears come and go with each year. Enjoy the pay off while it lasts it's you're ass on the line when it fails.

History has taught this time and time again.

Just sayin.

Nothing worse than watching a guy willingly jump off a plank with the sharks.

I wasn't pissing on YNOT. I just hated their chat forum =) I wasn't meant as a jab, or to discredit them. I use to tell Jay directly I hated the chat forum! He agreed with me! I didn't expect them to attack me over it. I guess it's a sensitive issue, apologies if i offended anyone.. I use to advertise with YNOT all the time (back in the day day) when rick owned it! It just seems to have lost it's luster (TO ME). That doesn't mean it's not a good resource.

As for XBIZ, I like the team we've worked with in the past, we got great results from advertising, and exhibiting with them. By no means did i post due to the fact that we won an award or two with them & I don't think my intent was to "defend", rather than share my experience.

that's a typical reverse-psychology defense when someone is getting owned hard


"LOLOL! my site is getting mad views from this and we are picking up record business deals! keep it up!"

While you have that part right, your rant reminds me of that AlienQ guy who used to post here (I think he was banned). Sorry, it's so hard for me to keep up with all of the aliases

meh.. xbiz sucks.. just a pr agency for fsc, asacp, iffor and other 'do-nothing' acronyms. :disgust

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You mean like kicking out independent and amatuer adultwebmasters, and giving control to just a few big studios?

And how would one go about reorganizing the adult business on the internet, so it flows under one distribution system?: :winkwink:

Fanciful concepts are always presented with a lead charlatan who dreams of having control. Soon S. Lawley will fall back into the wood work where he came from, the industry will pick up the pieces.

The internet can not be controlled, although it can be fucked up more and more with each passing idiot obsessed with obtaining the holy grail.

For content producers who have been sold into believing they will have a controllable distribution channel you have been gravely mislead.

Geeze what is going on around here? Everyone needs to take a step back a moment.

First, Moe, Alex, & Kristen have all gone out of their way to help us out. I LOVE Xbiz because the whole team is professional, they obviously love what they do, and they know that helping businesses grow helps them to grow too. Every serious business person reading this thread already knows this.

Connor and LAJ are great too. LAJ has been especially good to us and cares alot about his show and business just as the Xbiz peeps do. Jerks who sit back and bitch about how bad any trade show might have been has no idea what they are talking about.

Any big mouthes in this thread who have never met the people behind these companies or fully understands what they do, how they work, or how successful they really are, should STFU. Ask questions then read the answers. Don't spew off your own versions of the "facts" in lame attempts to discredit hard working people or companies just because of what you THINK. That kind of BS does not make you more credible at all - it makes you LESS credible.

I never had a problem with connectivity or speed when i had 50 servers running at Webair?

Holy shit! Why would you need 50 servers? Damn Mark. I thought you guys sold ad spots? What the heck would you ever need 50 servers for?

I think you need to take a step back and read the thread. The question has been asked and we're waiting on the answer. It's just not coming.

If the online adult industry is consolidating and in 1-3 years the number of adult companies are greatly reduced how will XBiz replace that falling revenue? It's a pretty simple straight forward question yet everyone is jumping in blindly letting us all know how great a company XBiz is, and how awesome the people who work there are. This may be true but doesn't answer the question and simple economics of the business.

The original statement by the OP might have been overly negative and harsh but there is a ring of truth behind the analysis. In an industry that is rapidly consolidating how will a company that relies on the health of said industry survive. It's obviously in their best interest to have 10 companies placing ads versus just 1.

mmmm they sell A LOT Of ad spots? =)

You seem to be under the impression we are all here to win some sort of message board debate club badge. No one owes you any answers. No matter how many threads you post it in, or times you ask for them.

That being said, affiliates are not the one's taking out the ads in XBIZ, or any other trade mag, nor spending the "ad dollars". GFY is mainly made up of affiliates crying about tube sites, and being forced out of business with bad conversions. Many of the companies advertising in XBIZ ad space are not active as posters, or visible on GFY.

Furthermore, for each 'BROgram' or single company there has to have been easily 1,000 to 10,000 affiliates if you look at the ratios. I would bet that literally 75% of the affiliates from 3 years ago are no longer full time in this business. Within 2 years, I would say that 95% of the old timers will be gone leaving only the power houses.

By the simple law of averages, when I say "most of adult will be a ghost town" that would hold true since most of the affiliates, which made up the largest number of both GFY and the online adult industry will be almost completely gone. At least the full timer affiliates.

There will still be plenty of strong companies left who've brought their traffic in-house over the past few years, developed their own tube sites to build up traffic, turned their membership and old credit card data into mailing lists, or growing fast in the mobile, etc.. These companies will still be buying ad space. Most of XBIZ ad space is geared toward B2B IMHO. Not worrying about some low ball affiliate.

I guess you needed myself, and others, to spell out these simple concepts. As you have admitted, you get the hard cover of the trade mag. and should have been able to easily open it and pay attention. While not all, the vast majority I see monthly is B2B and geared towards higher end companies. Software scripts, content, mobile applications, new technology, etc.. But I guess this eluded you.

Hopefully now that I have taken 5 minutes of my time to explain this, you can now sleep at night and get a good night's rest for tomorrow. I am sure there will be plenty of new posts where you can follow me around with will76 like a jaded school girl repeating, "I asked you a question, I asked you a question almighty Footsies".

:pimp

This thread is a wonderful example of why the industry is being eaten up by the sharks while the rest of us are arguing about nothing.