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The Demon · 05-06-2011, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PornoStar69

the sheeple are getting mad

Looks like the "sheeple" calling everyone else sheeple so they can sleep better at night are still delusional

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If there is a person who thinks Obama can do no wrong, they are an idiot.
If there is a person who thinks Obama can do no right, they are an idiot.

The thing is, the majority of the people here fall into the "idiot" category.

Vendzilla · 05-06-2011, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

I do not care if you want to start your discussion topics. I do not care how many different right wing, Obama or Democrat hating, political threads you start. Nor that you like to go round and round with these all day week after week pissing in the wind on some pornography message board.

The point is very simple.

Stop trying to give the illusion to others you are 'presenting facts' when it is clear to anyone who has read even a handful of these types of threads that you are in, that you are biased like a mofo. Just say that and be honest with yourself.

I normally do not bother to even ready these threads, much less participate in them, as they are the same cast of characters arguing the same point, counter points, over and over every week. I just happened to catch this one today and saw the same name (you) with the same view point as always. But citing, 'just the facts'. When in fact is just more bantering of your die hard partisan beliefs. Just don the white sheets and be done with it.

Ok enlighten us with your brilliance, where is the nation better?

we are at 9% unemployment

we are shooting at people in 4 different countries

We are deeper in debt than 2 years ago

And gas does sell for more than $4 here in LA

Please explain where these are not facts! and simple my imagination or partisan beliefs!!

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Originally Posted by uno

You are completely wrong about "just continued tax cuts from Bush". Everyone got a tax cut up to 250k or more for families as well as other incentives, breaks, and credits.

Unemployment has been falling, barring the recent rise, but the job growth is also on an upward trajectory.

No, they are Bush Tax breaks that Obama extended

And unemployment is still at 9% with many people falling off at 99 weeks where they can't get unemployment anymore, just facts, not going to believe it won't make it go away

The Porn Nerd · 05-06-2011, 01:14 PM

Well, your question (and the answer) all depends on who you mean by "we".

Vendzilla · 05-06-2011, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

If there is a person who thinks Obama can do no wrong, they are an idiot.
If there is a person who thinks Obama can do no right, they are an idiot.

Now my point has to be clear. It really has to be.

Obama has done some things that are good,

he killed Osama
he promised to stop attacking pot collectives with federal money
oh wait, he lied about that,

Help me out here, looking for something else I can agree with

Oh wait, no, he lied about that too

He did start doing more arrests of illegal aliens.

I'm just getting tired of all the wars

Vendzilla · 05-06-2011, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

Well, your question (and the answer) all depends on who you mean by "we".

the US......

theking · 05-06-2011, 01:22 PM

Our constitution gives very little domestic power to a President...a President's primary power is in foreign policy. A President cannot make law and a President does not control the finances/spending. The power to make law lies with Congress and the Congress controls the finances/spending. The greatest power of a President in domestic policy is that of the "bully pulpit".

It is generations of Congress and their policies and party politics that are the primary cause of today's problems.

Ultimately though...it is the American people/electorate that are responsible for today's problems...as it is still a nation of government by the people and for the people.

It is an uninterested and ignorant electorate that continue to vote in those that represent us in Government. I know people and I am satisfied that many...if not most of you...know people that do not watch the news on T.V...do not read a news paper...do not read books...and yet will vote in elections...Local...State and Federal...but primarily in State or Federal. I know people that when they receive their ballot in the mail...they spend...maybe twenty or thirty minutes...looking it over and that is the sum total of their political knowledge about the candidates and issues and yet they will vote. Also as you know a relatively small percentage even go to the trouble to vote at all.

Many Americans believe that we only have a two party system and are not even aware that there are about 50 officially registered political parties in this country.

There will be nothing change for the better without the American people/electorate taking an interest and educating themselves about the parties...candidates and issues...and frequently letting their representatives know what their thinking is about the way they are being represented on the issues.

My confidence level is high that conditions will get much worse before the American people will get their ass in gear.

Vendzilla · 05-06-2011, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

Our constitution gives very little domestic power to a President...a President's primary power is in foreign policy. A President cannot make law and a President does not control the finances/spending. The power to make law lies with Congress and the Congress controls the finances/spending. The greatest power of a President in domestic policy is that of the "bully pulpit".

It is generations of Congress and their policies and party politics that are the primary cause of today's problems.

Ultimately though...it is the American people/electorate that are responsible for today's problems...as it is still a nation of government by the people and for the people.

It is an uninterested and ignorant electorate that continue to vote in those that represent us in Government. I know people and I am satisfied that many...if not most of you...know people that do not watch the news on T.V...do not read a news paper...do not read books...and yet will vote in elections...Local...State and Federal...but primarily in State or Federal. I know people that when they receive their ballot in the mail...they spend...maybe twenty or thirty minutes...looking it over and that is the sum total of their political knowledge about the candidates and issues and yet they will vote. Also as you know a relatively small percentage even go to the trouble to vote at all.

Many Americans believe that we only have a two party system and are not even aware that there are about 50 officially registered political parties in this country.

There will be nothing change for the better without the American people/electorate taking an interest and educating themselves about the parties...candidates and issues...and frequently letting their representatives know what their thinking is about the way they are being represented on the issues.

My confidence level is high that conditions will get much worse before the American people will get their ass in gear.

I agree with most of what you said but I also believe that the government has been overstepping it's power at the same time. When did the congress vote to allow drone attacks on Pakistan? When they make laws, they make ways around them.

uno · 05-06-2011, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

No, they are Bush Tax breaks that Obama extended

And unemployment is still at 9% with many people falling off at 99 weeks where they can't get unemployment anymore, just facts, not going to believe it won't make it go away

Wow, is your memory really that skewed? Obama did lower taxes for income up to 250k. Part of the stimulus was tax credits and related items specifically targeting the middle class but also cutting taxes for everyone up to that point.

You can say the unemployment numbers are ONLY(which is a ridiculous argument) down because of people running out of it, but you all ignored the steady upswing in job creation which was a huge turn from the downward path of Bush job growth. Unemployment is at the end of the spectrum to go down in a recovery and its been showing signs of continued decline, yet you seem to practically delight in a % of a % uptick as tho it proves and validates your arguments. I'm sorry your hatred for our President blinds you so much you are willing to ignore or discount/nullify all the positives. Are some things bad? Of course. Are most things getting better? Yes. Are there always pitfalls that we can fall in to? Of course.

Coup · 05-06-2011, 01:37 PM

are we better off than we were 2 years ago?

absolutely not

Vendzilla · 05-06-2011, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by uno

Wow, is your memory really that skewed? Obama did lower taxes for income up to 250k. Part of the stimulus was tax credits and related items specifically targeting the middle class but also cutting taxes for everyone up to that point.

You can say the unemployment numbers are ONLY(which is a ridiculous argument) down because of people running out of it, but you all ignored the steady upswing in job creation which was a huge turn from the downward path of Bush job growth. Unemployment is at the end of the spectrum to go down in a recovery and its been showing signs of continued decline, yet you seem to practically delight in a % of a % uptick as tho it proves and validates your arguments. I'm sorry your hatred for our President blinds you so much you are willing to ignore or discount/nullify all the positives. Are some things bad? Of course. Are most things getting better? Yes. Are there always pitfalls that we can fall in to? Of course.

Skewed?

OK

President Obama just announced a tentative deal with Republicans on extending the sweeping tax cuts signed by President George W. Bush nearly a decade ago.

The deal extends all the tax cuts for two years, including those on upper-income Americans that Obama wanted to end. As a result, the debate over the tax cuts will have to be joined again during the 2012 presidential campaign.
http://www.usatoday.com/communities/...ush-tax-cuts/1

From The Labor Department new applicants for unemployment insurance last week came in at a seasonally adjusted number of 388,000.

How is that any good?

Vendzilla · 05-06-2011, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Coup

are we better off than we were 2 years ago?

absolutely not

Thanx for an honest answer, or did someone hack your account? LOL

uno · 05-06-2011, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Obama has done some things that are good,

he killed Osama
he promised to stop attacking pot collectives with federal money
oh wait, he lied about that,

Help me out here, looking for something else I can agree with

Oh wait, no, he lied about that too

He did start doing more arrests of illegal aliens.

I'm just getting tired of all the wars

Illegal immigration is down, deportations are up.

Iraq has wound down (50k troops, still too many, imo). Afghanistan is set to start winding down in July. Pakistani operations are and have been an extension of the war in Afghanistan and they certainly seem to have proved to be effective. You simply cannot call lybia a war.

I completely agree that we need more of our troops home. My brother-in-law was just deployed to afghanistan and he's had 2 tours in iraq, others in the balkans, spent years on the DMZ.

Vick! · 05-06-2011, 01:46 PM

Personally, I don't think so.

theking · 05-06-2011, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I agree with most of what you said but I also believe that the government has been overstepping it's power at the same time. When did the congress vote to allow drone attacks on Pakistan? When they make laws, they make ways around them.

The Congress gave that power to President Bush/the Presidency/the Commander in Chief when they overwhelmingly voted to allow the President to prosecute the "war on terror" as he/she sees fit. That power has never been withdrawn from the Presidency.

If you do not like the President having that power...how many times have you notified your Congressman that you want that power revoked or have notified the President that you do not like drones being used in Pakistan.

You can "believe that the government has been overstepping it's power"...that is your right to do so...but it is the third coequal branch of Government...not you...that has the power to decide if "Government is overstepping it's power"...and that is the Supreme Court.

Coup · 05-06-2011, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Thanx for an honest answer, or did someone hack your account? LOL

I dislike barrack more than you.. for valid reasons. ;)

uno · 05-06-2011, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Skewed?

OK

President Obama just announced a tentative deal with Republicans on extending the sweeping tax cuts signed by President George W. Bush nearly a decade ago.

The deal extends all the tax cuts for two years, including those on upper-income Americans that Obama wanted to end. As a result, the debate over the tax cuts will have to be joined again during the 2012 presidential campaign.
http://www.usatoday.com/communities/...ush-tax-cuts/1

From The Labor Department new applicants for unemployment insurance last week came in at a seasonally adjusted number of 388,000.

How is that any good?

I'm not referring to the recent deal late last year for the extension of the Bush tax cuts for everyone. I'm talking about his first round of tax cuts in his first year.

I agree, unemployment: Bad, but you are still ignoring the fact that job creation is going up quarter by quarter. It's not where it should be nor where I'd like it to be yet, but things take time and we are RECOVERING from a huge recession.

AmeliaG · 05-06-2011, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

I do not care if you want to start your discussion topics. I do not care how many different right wing, Obama or Democrat hating, political threads you start. Nor that you like to go round and round with these all day week after week pissing in the wind on some pornography message board.

The point is very simple.

Stop trying to give the illusion to others you are 'presenting facts' when it is clear to anyone who has read even a handful of these types of threads that you are in, that you are biased like a mofo. Just say that and be honest with yourself.

I normally do not bother to even ready these threads, much less participate in them, as they are the same cast of characters arguing the same point, counter points, over and over every week. I just happened to catch this one today and saw the same name (you) with the same view point as always. But citing, 'just the facts'. When in fact is just more bantering of your die hard partisan beliefs. Just don the white sheets and be done with it.

I try to stay out of these things, but I find it depressing that you dismiss everyone on this board as pornographers, as if being politically aware is somehow incompatible with slangin' pr0n.

I'm really sick of the thing where people (not just you, but the majority) refuse to discuss issues and just shout partisan insults. If someone (such as Vendzilla) says something which is not wholly partisan, then the debate revolves around trying to shove him into one partisan box or another. White sheets? Come on, guys.

Vendzilla · 05-06-2011, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by uno

Illegal immigration is down, deportations are up.

Iraq has wound down (50k troops, still too many, imo). Afghanistan is set to start winding down in July. Pakistani operations are and have been an extension of the war in Afghanistan and they certainly seem to have proved to be effective. You simply cannot call lybia a war.

I completely agree that we need more of our troops home. My brother-in-law was just deployed to afghanistan and he's had 2 tours in iraq, others in the balkans, spent years on the DMZ.

I think immigration is down because the economy is down, but read back, I acknowledged that.

As forthe countries we are fighting with, either we are fighting or we are not,people are still dieing and we can't afford the military cost

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Originally Posted by theking

The Congress gave that power to President Bush/the Presidency/the Commander in Chief when they overwhelmingly voted to allow the President to prosecute the "war on terror" as he/she sees fit. That power has never been withdrawn from the Presidency.

If you do not like the President having that power...how many times have you notified your Congressman that you want that power revoked or have notified the President that you do not like drones being used in Pakistan.

You can "believe that the government has been overstepping it's power"...that is your right to do so...but it is the third coequal branch of Government...not you...that has the power to decide if "Government is overstepping it's power"...and that is the Supreme Court.

Everytime I send an email, I get a form letter response from a staffer

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Originally Posted by Coup

I dislike barrack more than you.. for valid reasons. ;)

I think mine are valid, ok well making fruit flavored rolling paper illegal is kinda petty

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Originally Posted by uno

I'm not referring to the recent deal late last year for the extension of the Bush tax cuts for everyone. I'm talking about his first round of tax cuts in his first year.

I agree, unemployment: Bad, but you are still ignoring the fact that job creation is going up quarter by quarter. It's not where it should be nor where I'd like it to be yet, but things take time and we are RECOVERING from a huge recession.

you'll have to start using tietime lines then about tax cuts

Yes there is job creation, but there is also job lose, thats why we are at 9% still

LedZep · 05-06-2011, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Obama has done some things that are good,

he promised to stop attacking pot collectives with federal money
oh wait, he lied about that,

Really? Please show the quote where he said he would stop attacking pot collectives.

papill0n · 05-06-2011, 02:22 PM

sounds like a shit place to live

what country we talking about here???

theking · 05-06-2011, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I think immigration is down because the economy is down, but read back, I acknowledged that.

As forthe countries we are fighting with, either we are fighting or we are not,people are still dieing and we can't afford the military cost

Everytime I send an email, I get a form letter response from a staffer

I think mine are valid, ok well making fruit flavored rolling paper illegal is kinda petty

you'll have to start using tietime lines then about tax cuts

Yes there is job creation, but there is also job lose, thats why we are at 9% still

Over the years I have made it a practice to let my Congressman know my thinking about this or that...and yes it is the staff that reads the mail...emails...and takes the phone calls but they let their boss know what his constituents are saying about this or that...and one complaint...much like the samples of 1000 people...or so...in polls represents x number of people...so staying in frequent contact with your Congressman is an important thing to do.

Only on one occasion after multiple letters and phone calls...about an intervention I was doing on behalf of a former comrade in arms who was still on active duty and was facing a Court Martial...which were intercepted by staff...did the staff actually put me on the phone with the Congressman. He took control of the situation and intervened with the military and the Court Martial was dropped...but unfortunately my friend was denied reenlistment when his current enlistment expired...he had intended to be a career soldier.

Vendzilla · 05-06-2011, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by LedZep

Really? Please show the quote where he said he would stop attacking pot collectives.

Wow, um, just google it, I can't believe you didn't know that

Vendzilla · 05-06-2011, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

Over the years I have made it a practice to let my Congressman know my thinking about this or that...and yes it is the staff that reads the mail...emails...and takes the phone calls but they let their boss know what his constituents are saying about this or that...and one complaint...much like the samples of 1000 people...or so...in polls represents x number of people...so staying in frequent contact with your Congressman is an important thing to do.

Only on one occasion after multiple letters and phone calls...about an intervention I was doing on behalf of a former comrade in arms who was still on active duty and was facing a Court Martial...which were intercepted by staff...did the staff actually put me on the phone with the Congressman. He took control of the situation and intervened with the military and the Court Martial was dropped...but unfortunately my friend was denied reenlistment when his current enlistment expired...he had intended to be a career soldier.

I gave up on contacting my crongressman, they don't give a damn about the people anymore, at least thats what is percieved, maybe that alone will bring some change, it made the tea party

LedZep · 05-06-2011, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Wow, um, just google it, I can't believe you didn't know that

Since I own a dispensary I'm fairly certain Obama has never used the words 'pot collective', but hey, prove me wrong.

tony286 · 05-06-2011, 02:38 PM

News flash unemployment is never going down. Mcdonalds and walmart can only hire so many people. Lol this is the new normal get used to it and hope some radical doesnt come in and make online porn job one. They will keep lower taxes on the rich and big corporations while sticking it in the ass of the fading middle class. And the scary part is people like vend will keep voting against their own best interest while they get fucked in the ass deeper and deeper.

theking · 05-06-2011, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I gave up on contacting my crongressman, they don't give a damn about the people anymore, at least thats what is percieved, maybe that alone will bring some change, it made the tea party

You are wrong...they do give a damn...as most of them want to be reelected and unless one is going to become a political activist it is the only way a person can effectively protest issues. I seriously doubt that one in ten thousand have ever actually contacted their representative and just prefer to complain to the wind...and this is one of the reasons why Americans have the government that we have.

Vendzilla · 05-06-2011, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286

News flash unemployment is never going down. Mcdonalds and walmart can only hire so many people. Lol this is the new normal get used to it and hope some radical doesnt come in and make online porn job one. They will keep lower taxes on the rich and big corporations while sticking it in the ass of the fading middle class. And the scary part is people like vend will keep voting against their own best interest while they get fucked in the ass deeper and deeper.

I will never vote party lines, I vote for what I think will work, I just dont think the direction we are going now works, please let me know where it's working the way it's going now, thats all I ask!

tony286 · 05-06-2011, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

You are wrong...they do give a damn...as most of them want to be reelected and unless one is going to become a political activist it is the only way a person can effectively protest issues. I seriously doubt that one in ten thousand have ever actually contacted their representative and just prefer to complain to the wind...and this is one of the reasons why Americans have the government that we have.

I agree its sad

tony286 · 05-06-2011, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I will never vote party lines, I vote for what I think will work, I just dont think the direction we are going now works, please let me know where it's working the way it's going now, thats all I ask!

Youre too partisan for me to believe that. I lean left but voted for deal for gov he isnt a democrat.whatever barry does will be wrong to u.

Vendzilla · 05-06-2011, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LedZep

Since I own a dispensary I'm fairly certain Obama has never used the words 'pot collective', but hey, prove me wrong.

Good thing you own a dispensary since you can't use google
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert..._b_758389.html

Vendzilla · 05-06-2011, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286

Youre too partisan for me to believe that. I lean left but voted for deal for gov he isnt a democrat.whatever barry does will be wrong to u.

No, I actually agree alot with what Barry says, it's what Barry does that I hate.

uno · 05-06-2011, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

No, I actually agree alot with what Barry says, it's what Barry does that I hate.

He does most of what he says he will do. I've said it before and I'll say it again: He plays a long game.

What has he said that he hasn't done that you liked in particular that bothers you?

The Porn Nerd · 05-06-2011, 03:06 PM

The US of A? Oh we're fucked like a $2 whore, no doubt.

Rochard · 05-06-2011, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

People hated Bush so much, I don't think any republican could have won

I think your right. I think that no matter what the Republican party put forth, they would have lost only because of the past eight years under Bush. I think McCain was a scapegoat. I was surprised it was as close as it was really.

I also think the Republican party knew this and wanted to loose, knowing that the next four - eight years are going to suck donkey balls no matter which side is in office.

I love the comments about how Obama promised to change this and fix this. That's call politics, get used to it.

Rochard · 05-06-2011, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

Rationalize much? (Unless it's sarcasm, then well played sir).

Total sarcasm really.

Vendzilla · 05-06-2011, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by uno

He does most of what he says he will do. I've said it before and I'll say it again: He plays a long game.

What has he said that he hasn't done that you liked in particular that bothers you?

I think he played the game thinking the natural outlook was better than forecasted and that the future will pay for it.

You mean like people will not have to change their current healthcare insurance? I have a lot of people that it's already changed and it's not even in effect yet.

My buddy works for Coca Cola, it's union and they had to change their insurance coverage a few months ago.

PornoMonster · 05-06-2011, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross

What a load of shit! Who is shooting "people" in Pakistan? The USA went in for 1 person and 1 person alone, some others got killed but I'd hardly call it the USA shooting people in Pakistan. Its done, over, won't happen again. Even Libya, who is the USA shooting in Libya?

The full article is biased, this coming from someone who couldn't give a flying fuck about USA politics as well!

U.S. official: U.S. military drone fired a missile in Yemen within the last 48 hours aimed at cleric Anwar al-Awlaki.

Dead · 05-06-2011, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG

I try to stay out of these things, but I find it depressing that you dismiss everyone on this board as pornographers, as if being politically aware is somehow incompatible with slangin' pr0n.

I'm really sick of the thing where people (not just you, but the majority) refuse to discuss issues and just shout partisan insults. If someone (such as Vendzilla) says something which is not wholly partisan, then the debate revolves around trying to shove him into one partisan box or another. White sheets? Come on, guys.

Brains and Beauty, ....
Ask the Dollar, he will not lie oh whats that the answer is No, and I trust my eight ball

Babaganoosh · 05-06-2011, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Only week minded fools call names when they have nothing else to say

"week" minded?

You really ARE that dumb, aren't you?

Babaganoosh · 05-06-2011, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

Considering you morons always blame Bush for the economy while crediting Obama for Osama's death, I'd say I was spot on. Nice job embarrassing yourself, jackass.

Who should I blame? Why should I not blame the guy who very obviously caused it? Really, are you dumb or just trolling?

Kiopa_Matt · 05-06-2011, 06:16 PM

For many Americans? Probably not. But you're fuck of alot better off than if McCain and Palin were running the country for the past 3 years, that's for sure.

Barry-xlovecam · 05-06-2011, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pornopete

The US has to re-elect Bill Clinton, heck make him your king and sacrifice an intern to him every year, he is the only one who got it right.

Damn right!!!!
Any guy that can get a blow job in the office closet is AOK with me

The Demon · 05-06-2011, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

Who should I blame? Why should I not blame the guy who very obviously caused it? Really, are you dumb or just trolling?

I would ask you the same question but we both know the answer to that one, especially when you attempt to sound intelligible. I find it humorous. Oh btw, why not blame the guy who took a shitty economy and made it worse? Man you're a moron rofl.

TheDoc · 05-07-2011, 03:49 AM

Hogwash....

Shooting in 4 countries? Come on, lame twist. How about at war with 1 country, ended an illegal war with another, in a conflict, and worked with another to get a person the entire Country wanted.

btw, Reagan had far more bullets in Countries that Obama has, by 3 times. Not that it makes a difference, unless it's a Republican in power.

It costs 800b a year to run this boat, and Obama directly has spent less than 800b. Saying the debt went up under his watch is like saying he breaths air.

Record gas prices happened in 09, we haven't reached the point again. Now if you're going to blame him for the increase, then you should credit him with the largest drop in 5 years as well.

Outside of that the markets have grown, rather than shrank like they did the previous 10 years. The economic drop was stopped, which was being said was the next depression. Actually, even jobs and housing stopped it's major drops, prob will drop again but at least it quit from its depression like speeds. That's before all the civil stuff he's done, tax code work, shit the list is so long I couldn't list it all.

It's not like Obama has done only bad...

RadicalSights · 05-07-2011, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

In my book, 250k a year is not rich, 250k won't buy a house where I live.

http://weatherfordtxhomesforsale.net..._tx_76087_8188

$250k will buy a house anywhere. Around $250k in Texas will get you a mini mansion

Where do you live. I've seen nice 4 bed room houses for like $80,000 in many states now. There's crazy good deals out there in realestate.

Black All Through · 05-07-2011, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

I blame our current situation on the Republican party. They caused all of this during the Bush administration, and to fix it they sent out McCain and Palin? That's the best the Republican party had to offer? LOL.

Dirty Dane · 05-07-2011, 04:17 AM

Change....

Vendzilla · 05-07-2011, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RadicalSights

http://weatherfordtxhomesforsale.net..._tx_76087_8188

$250k will buy a house anywhere. Around $250k in Texas will get you a mini mansion

Where do you live. I've seen nice 4 bed room houses for like $80,000 in many states now. There's crazy good deals out there in realestate.

Thats Texas, I live in LA, house I live in is worth about 350k

Vendzilla · 05-07-2011, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Although I respect Vendzilla passion for politics, I've seen it go both ways with him and actually think he's been banned once for it. WTS, what puzzles me is the staunch political stance he and others proclaim from hearsay or slanted opinions via news/radio as they insult others that their opinions are totally correct, but when found wrong, fall silent or can never admit they're wrong.

Some peoples comments I just don't bother to read, but if proven wrong, I learn from that, in this thread the ones that are posting against me are not debating, but merely putting a label on me and quietly hoping no one will call them on it.

I've never been banned, I was called on something I got wrong on some gun legislation though

Barefootsies · 05-07-2011, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

in this thread the ones that are posting against me are not debating, but merely putting a label on me and quietly hoping no one will call them on it.h

Who would bother to debate you? I mean really...

If anything, a quick peek at years of your daily political posts will show your bull headed bias. Historically, your prejudices are crystal clear and it's more than obvious that you will never change your position, nor are open minded in the least to the views of others on those political topics. Especially in regards to Democrats/liberals/particular issues.

People would be better off debating a cat in their back yard.

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