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  • The Demon
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2003
    • 7336
    #101
    Originally posted by PornoStar69
    the sheeple are getting mad
    Looks like the "sheeple" calling everyone else sheeple so they can sleep better at night are still delusional

    If there is a person who thinks Obama can do no wrong, they are an idiot.
    If there is a person who thinks Obama can do no right, they are an idiot.
    The thing is, the majority of the people here fall into the "idiot" category.
    Greed is Good

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      • Vendzilla
        Biker Gnome
        • Mar 2004
        • 23200
        #102
        Originally posted by Barefootsies
        I do not care if you want to start your discussion topics. I do not care how many different right wing, Obama or Democrat hating, political threads you start. Nor that you like to go round and round with these all day week after week pissing in the wind on some pornography message board.

        The point is very simple.

        Stop trying to give the illusion to others you are 'presenting facts' when it is clear to anyone who has read even a handful of these types of threads that you are in, that you are biased like a mofo. Just say that and be honest with yourself.

        I normally do not bother to even ready these threads, much less participate in them, as they are the same cast of characters arguing the same point, counter points, over and over every week. I just happened to catch this one today and saw the same name (you) with the same view point as always. But citing, 'just the facts'. When in fact is just more bantering of your die hard partisan beliefs. Just don the white sheets and be done with it.

        Ok enlighten us with your brilliance, where is the nation better?

        we are at 9% unemployment

        we are shooting at people in 4 different countries

        We are deeper in debt than 2 years ago

        And gas does sell for more than $4 here in LA

        Please explain where these are not facts! and simple my imagination or partisan beliefs!!

        Originally posted by uno
        You are completely wrong about "just continued tax cuts from Bush". Everyone got a tax cut up to 250k or more for families as well as other incentives, breaks, and credits.

        Unemployment has been falling, barring the recent rise, but the job growth is also on an upward trajectory.
        No, they are Bush Tax breaks that Obama extended

        And unemployment is still at 9% with many people falling off at 99 weeks where they can't get unemployment anymore, just facts, not going to believe it won't make it go away
        Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
        think about that

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          • The Porn Nerd
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            • Jun 2009
            • 19780
            #103
            Well, your question (and the answer) all depends on who you mean by "we".
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              • Vendzilla
                Biker Gnome
                • Mar 2004
                • 23200
                #104
                Originally posted by PR_Tom
                If there is a person who thinks Obama can do no wrong, they are an idiot.
                If there is a person who thinks Obama can do no right, they are an idiot.

                Now my point has to be clear. It really has to be.
                Obama has done some things that are good,

                he killed Osama
                he promised to stop attacking pot collectives with federal money
                oh wait, he lied about that,

                Help me out here, looking for something else I can agree with

                Oh wait, no, he lied about that too

                He did start doing more arrests of illegal aliens.

                I'm just getting tired of all the wars
                Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                think about that

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                  • Vendzilla
                    Biker Gnome
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 23200
                    #105
                    Originally posted by MisterPeabody
                    Well, your question (and the answer) all depends on who you mean by "we".
                    the US......
                    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                    think about that

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                      • theking
                        Nice Kitty
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 21053
                        #106
                        Our constitution gives very little domestic power to a President...a President's primary power is in foreign policy. A President cannot make law and a President does not control the finances/spending. The power to make law lies with Congress and the Congress controls the finances/spending. The greatest power of a President in domestic policy is that of the "bully pulpit".

                        It is generations of Congress and their policies and party politics that are the primary cause of today's problems.

                        Ultimately though...it is the American people/electorate that are responsible for today's problems...as it is still a nation of government by the people and for the people.

                        It is an uninterested and ignorant electorate that continue to vote in those that represent us in Government. I know people and I am satisfied that many...if not most of you...know people that do not watch the news on T.V...do not read a news paper...do not read books...and yet will vote in elections...Local...State and Federal...but primarily in State or Federal. I know people that when they receive their ballot in the mail...they spend...maybe twenty or thirty minutes...looking it over and that is the sum total of their political knowledge about the candidates and issues and yet they will vote. Also as you know a relatively small percentage even go to the trouble to vote at all.

                        Many Americans believe that we only have a two party system and are not even aware that there are about 50 officially registered political parties in this country.

                        There will be nothing change for the better without the American people/electorate taking an interest and educating themselves about the parties...candidates and issues...and frequently letting their representatives know what their thinking is about the way they are being represented on the issues.

                        My confidence level is high that conditions will get much worse before the American people will get their ass in gear.
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                          • Vendzilla
                            Biker Gnome
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 23200
                            #107
                            Originally posted by theking
                            Our constitution gives very little domestic power to a President...a President's primary power is in foreign policy. A President cannot make law and a President does not control the finances/spending. The power to make law lies with Congress and the Congress controls the finances/spending. The greatest power of a President in domestic policy is that of the "bully pulpit".

                            It is generations of Congress and their policies and party politics that are the primary cause of today's problems.

                            Ultimately though...it is the American people/electorate that are responsible for today's problems...as it is still a nation of government by the people and for the people.

                            It is an uninterested and ignorant electorate that continue to vote in those that represent us in Government. I know people and I am satisfied that many...if not most of you...know people that do not watch the news on T.V...do not read a news paper...do not read books...and yet will vote in elections...Local...State and Federal...but primarily in State or Federal. I know people that when they receive their ballot in the mail...they spend...maybe twenty or thirty minutes...looking it over and that is the sum total of their political knowledge about the candidates and issues and yet they will vote. Also as you know a relatively small percentage even go to the trouble to vote at all.

                            Many Americans believe that we only have a two party system and are not even aware that there are about 50 officially registered political parties in this country.

                            There will be nothing change for the better without the American people/electorate taking an interest and educating themselves about the parties...candidates and issues...and frequently letting their representatives know what their thinking is about the way they are being represented on the issues.

                            My confidence level is high that conditions will get much worse before the American people will get their ass in gear.
                            I agree with most of what you said but I also believe that the government has been overstepping it's power at the same time. When did the congress vote to allow drone attacks on Pakistan? When they make laws, they make ways around them.
                            Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                            think about that

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                              • uno
                                RIP Dodger. BEST.CAT.EVER
                                • Dec 2002
                                • 18450
                                #108
                                Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                No, they are Bush Tax breaks that Obama extended

                                And unemployment is still at 9% with many people falling off at 99 weeks where they can't get unemployment anymore, just facts, not going to believe it won't make it go away
                                Wow, is your memory really that skewed? Obama did lower taxes for income up to 250k. Part of the stimulus was tax credits and related items specifically targeting the middle class but also cutting taxes for everyone up to that point.

                                You can say the unemployment numbers are ONLY(which is a ridiculous argument) down because of people running out of it, but you all ignored the steady upswing in job creation which was a huge turn from the downward path of Bush job growth. Unemployment is at the end of the spectrum to go down in a recovery and its been showing signs of continued decline, yet you seem to practically delight in a % of a % uptick as tho it proves and validates your arguments. I'm sorry your hatred for our President blinds you so much you are willing to ignore or discount/nullify all the positives. Are some things bad? Of course. Are most things getting better? Yes. Are there always pitfalls that we can fall in to? Of course.
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                                  • Coup
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                                    • Apr 2010
                                    • 9931
                                    #109
                                    are we better off than we were 2 years ago?

                                    absolutely not

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                                      • Vendzilla
                                        Biker Gnome
                                        • Mar 2004
                                        • 23200
                                        #110
                                        Originally posted by uno
                                        Wow, is your memory really that skewed? Obama did lower taxes for income up to 250k. Part of the stimulus was tax credits and related items specifically targeting the middle class but also cutting taxes for everyone up to that point.

                                        You can say the unemployment numbers are ONLY(which is a ridiculous argument) down because of people running out of it, but you all ignored the steady upswing in job creation which was a huge turn from the downward path of Bush job growth. Unemployment is at the end of the spectrum to go down in a recovery and its been showing signs of continued decline, yet you seem to practically delight in a % of a % uptick as tho it proves and validates your arguments. I'm sorry your hatred for our President blinds you so much you are willing to ignore or discount/nullify all the positives. Are some things bad? Of course. Are most things getting better? Yes. Are there always pitfalls that we can fall in to? Of course.
                                        Skewed?

                                        OK

                                        President Obama just announced a tentative deal with Republicans on extending the sweeping tax cuts signed by President George W. Bush nearly a decade ago.

                                        The deal extends all the tax cuts for two years, including those on upper-income Americans that Obama wanted to end. As a result, the debate over the tax cuts will have to be joined again during the 2012 presidential campaign.
                                        http://www.usatoday.com/communities/...ush-tax-cuts/1


                                        From The Labor Department new applicants for unemployment insurance last week came in at a seasonally adjusted number of 388,000.

                                        How is that any good?
                                        Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                        think about that

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                                          • Vendzilla
                                            Biker Gnome
                                            • Mar 2004
                                            • 23200
                                            #111
                                            Originally posted by Coup
                                            are we better off than we were 2 years ago?

                                            absolutely not
                                            Thanx for an honest answer, or did someone hack your account? LOL
                                            Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                            think about that

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                                              • uno
                                                RIP Dodger. BEST.CAT.EVER
                                                • Dec 2002
                                                • 18450
                                                #112
                                                Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                Obama has done some things that are good,

                                                he killed Osama
                                                he promised to stop attacking pot collectives with federal money
                                                oh wait, he lied about that,

                                                Help me out here, looking for something else I can agree with

                                                Oh wait, no, he lied about that too

                                                He did start doing more arrests of illegal aliens.

                                                I'm just getting tired of all the wars
                                                Illegal immigration is down, deportations are up.

                                                Iraq has wound down (50k troops, still too many, imo). Afghanistan is set to start winding down in July. Pakistani operations are and have been an extension of the war in Afghanistan and they certainly seem to have proved to be effective. You simply cannot call lybia a war.

                                                I completely agree that we need more of our troops home. My brother-in-law was just deployed to afghanistan and he's had 2 tours in iraq, others in the balkans, spent years on the DMZ.
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                                                  • Vick!
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Nov 2005
                                                    • 6882
                                                    #113
                                                    Personally, I don't think so.
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                                                      • theking
                                                        Nice Kitty
                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                        • 21053
                                                        #114
                                                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                        I agree with most of what you said but I also believe that the government has been overstepping it's power at the same time. When did the congress vote to allow drone attacks on Pakistan? When they make laws, they make ways around them.
                                                        The Congress gave that power to President Bush/the Presidency/the Commander in Chief when they overwhelmingly voted to allow the President to prosecute the "war on terror" as he/she sees fit. That power has never been withdrawn from the Presidency.

                                                        If you do not like the President having that power...how many times have you notified your Congressman that you want that power revoked or have notified the President that you do not like drones being used in Pakistan.

                                                        You can "believe that the government has been overstepping it's power"...that is your right to do so...but it is the third coequal branch of Government...not you...that has the power to decide if "Government is overstepping it's power"...and that is the Supreme Court.
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                                                          • Coup
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                                                            • Apr 2010
                                                            • 9931
                                                            #115
                                                            Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                            Thanx for an honest answer, or did someone hack your account? LOL
                                                            I dislike barrack more than you.. for valid reasons. ;)

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                                                              • uno
                                                                RIP Dodger. BEST.CAT.EVER
                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                • 18450
                                                                #116
                                                                Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                Skewed?

                                                                OK

                                                                President Obama just announced a tentative deal with Republicans on extending the sweeping tax cuts signed by President George W. Bush nearly a decade ago.

                                                                The deal extends all the tax cuts for two years, including those on upper-income Americans that Obama wanted to end. As a result, the debate over the tax cuts will have to be joined again during the 2012 presidential campaign.
                                                                http://www.usatoday.com/communities/...ush-tax-cuts/1


                                                                From The Labor Department new applicants for unemployment insurance last week came in at a seasonally adjusted number of 388,000.

                                                                How is that any good?
                                                                I'm not referring to the recent deal late last year for the extension of the Bush tax cuts for everyone. I'm talking about his first round of tax cuts in his first year.

                                                                I agree, unemployment: Bad, but you are still ignoring the fact that job creation is going up quarter by quarter. It's not where it should be nor where I'd like it to be yet, but things take time and we are RECOVERING from a huge recession.
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                                                                  • AmeliaG
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                                    • 10664
                                                                    #117
                                                                    Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                                    I do not care if you want to start your discussion topics. I do not care how many different right wing, Obama or Democrat hating, political threads you start. Nor that you like to go round and round with these all day week after week pissing in the wind on some pornography message board.

                                                                    The point is very simple.

                                                                    Stop trying to give the illusion to others you are 'presenting facts' when it is clear to anyone who has read even a handful of these types of threads that you are in, that you are biased like a mofo. Just say that and be honest with yourself.

                                                                    I normally do not bother to even ready these threads, much less participate in them, as they are the same cast of characters arguing the same point, counter points, over and over every week. I just happened to catch this one today and saw the same name (you) with the same view point as always. But citing, 'just the facts'. When in fact is just more bantering of your die hard partisan beliefs. Just don the white sheets and be done with it.


                                                                    I try to stay out of these things, but I find it depressing that you dismiss everyone on this board as pornographers, as if being politically aware is somehow incompatible with slangin' pr0n.

                                                                    I'm really sick of the thing where people (not just you, but the majority) refuse to discuss issues and just shout partisan insults. If someone (such as Vendzilla) says something which is not wholly partisan, then the debate revolves around trying to shove him into one partisan box or another. White sheets? Come on, guys.
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                                                                      • Vendzilla
                                                                        Biker Gnome
                                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                                        • 23200
                                                                        #118
                                                                        Originally posted by uno
                                                                        Illegal immigration is down, deportations are up.

                                                                        Iraq has wound down (50k troops, still too many, imo). Afghanistan is set to start winding down in July. Pakistani operations are and have been an extension of the war in Afghanistan and they certainly seem to have proved to be effective. You simply cannot call lybia a war.

                                                                        I completely agree that we need more of our troops home. My brother-in-law was just deployed to afghanistan and he's had 2 tours in iraq, others in the balkans, spent years on the DMZ.
                                                                        I think immigration is down because the economy is down, but read back, I acknowledged that.

                                                                        As forthe countries we are fighting with, either we are fighting or we are not,people are still dieing and we can't afford the military cost

                                                                        Originally posted by theking
                                                                        The Congress gave that power to President Bush/the Presidency/the Commander in Chief when they overwhelmingly voted to allow the President to prosecute the "war on terror" as he/she sees fit. That power has never been withdrawn from the Presidency.

                                                                        If you do not like the President having that power...how many times have you notified your Congressman that you want that power revoked or have notified the President that you do not like drones being used in Pakistan.

                                                                        You can "believe that the government has been overstepping it's power"...that is your right to do so...but it is the third coequal branch of Government...not you...that has the power to decide if "Government is overstepping it's power"...and that is the Supreme Court.
                                                                        Everytime I send an email, I get a form letter response from a staffer

                                                                        Originally posted by Coup
                                                                        I dislike barrack more than you.. for valid reasons. ;)
                                                                        I think mine are valid, ok well making fruit flavored rolling paper illegal is kinda petty

                                                                        Originally posted by uno
                                                                        I'm not referring to the recent deal late last year for the extension of the Bush tax cuts for everyone. I'm talking about his first round of tax cuts in his first year.

                                                                        I agree, unemployment: Bad, but you are still ignoring the fact that job creation is going up quarter by quarter. It's not where it should be nor where I'd like it to be yet, but things take time and we are RECOVERING from a huge recession.
                                                                        you'll have to start using tietime lines then about tax cuts

                                                                        Yes there is job creation, but there is also job lose, thats why we are at 9% still
                                                                        Last edited by Vendzilla; 05-06-2011, 01:09 PM.
                                                                        Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                        think about that

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                                                                          • LedZep
                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                            • Feb 2006
                                                                            • 111
                                                                            #119
                                                                            Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                            Obama has done some things that are good,


                                                                            he promised to stop attacking pot collectives with federal money
                                                                            oh wait, he lied about that,

                                                                            Really? Please show the quote where he said he would stop attacking pot collectives.

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                                                                              • papill0n
                                                                                Unregistered Abuser
                                                                                • Oct 2007
                                                                                • 15547
                                                                                #120
                                                                                sounds like a shit place to live

                                                                                what country we talking about here???

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                                                                                  • theking
                                                                                    Nice Kitty
                                                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                                                    • 21053
                                                                                    #121
                                                                                    Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                    I think immigration is down because the economy is down, but read back, I acknowledged that.

                                                                                    As forthe countries we are fighting with, either we are fighting or we are not,people are still dieing and we can't afford the military cost



                                                                                    Everytime I send an email, I get a form letter response from a staffer



                                                                                    I think mine are valid, ok well making fruit flavored rolling paper illegal is kinda petty



                                                                                    you'll have to start using tietime lines then about tax cuts

                                                                                    Yes there is job creation, but there is also job lose, thats why we are at 9% still
                                                                                    Over the years I have made it a practice to let my Congressman know my thinking about this or that...and yes it is the staff that reads the mail...emails...and takes the phone calls but they let their boss know what his constituents are saying about this or that...and one complaint...much like the samples of 1000 people...or so...in polls represents x number of people...so staying in frequent contact with your Congressman is an important thing to do.

                                                                                    Only on one occasion after multiple letters and phone calls...about an intervention I was doing on behalf of a former comrade in arms who was still on active duty and was facing a Court Martial...which were intercepted by staff...did the staff actually put me on the phone with the Congressman. He took control of the situation and intervened with the military and the Court Martial was dropped...but unfortunately my friend was denied reenlistment when his current enlistment expired...he had intended to be a career soldier.
                                                                                    Last edited by theking; 05-06-2011, 01:28 PM.
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                                                                                      • Vendzilla
                                                                                        Biker Gnome
                                                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                                                        • 23200
                                                                                        #122
                                                                                        Originally posted by LedZep
                                                                                        Really? Please show the quote where he said he would stop attacking pot collectives.
                                                                                        Wow, um, just google it, I can't believe you didn't know that
                                                                                        Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                        think about that

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                                                                                          • Vendzilla
                                                                                            Biker Gnome
                                                                                            • Mar 2004
                                                                                            • 23200
                                                                                            #123
                                                                                            Originally posted by theking
                                                                                            Over the years I have made it a practice to let my Congressman know my thinking about this or that...and yes it is the staff that reads the mail...emails...and takes the phone calls but they let their boss know what his constituents are saying about this or that...and one complaint...much like the samples of 1000 people...or so...in polls represents x number of people...so staying in frequent contact with your Congressman is an important thing to do.

                                                                                            Only on one occasion after multiple letters and phone calls...about an intervention I was doing on behalf of a former comrade in arms who was still on active duty and was facing a Court Martial...which were intercepted by staff...did the staff actually put me on the phone with the Congressman. He took control of the situation and intervened with the military and the Court Martial was dropped...but unfortunately my friend was denied reenlistment when his current enlistment expired...he had intended to be a career soldier.
                                                                                            I gave up on contacting my crongressman, they don't give a damn about the people anymore, at least thats what is percieved, maybe that alone will bring some change, it made the tea party
                                                                                            Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                            think about that

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                                                                                              • LedZep
                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                • Feb 2006
                                                                                                • 111
                                                                                                #124
                                                                                                Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                Wow, um, just google it, I can't believe you didn't know that

                                                                                                Since I own a dispensary I'm fairly certain Obama has never used the words 'pot collective', but hey, prove me wrong.

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                                                                                                  • tony286
                                                                                                    lurker
                                                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                                                    • 57021
                                                                                                    #125
                                                                                                    News flash unemployment is never going down. Mcdonalds and walmart can only hire so many people. Lol this is the new normal get used to it and hope some radical doesnt come in and make online porn job one. They will keep lower taxes on the rich and big corporations while sticking it in the ass of the fading middle class. And the scary part is people like vend will keep voting against their own best interest while they get fucked in the ass deeper and deeper.

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                                                                                                      • theking
                                                                                                        Nice Kitty
                                                                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                                                                        • 21053
                                                                                                        #126
                                                                                                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                        I gave up on contacting my crongressman, they don't give a damn about the people anymore, at least thats what is percieved, maybe that alone will bring some change, it made the tea party
                                                                                                        You are wrong...they do give a damn...as most of them want to be reelected and unless one is going to become a political activist it is the only way a person can effectively protest issues. I seriously doubt that one in ten thousand have ever actually contacted their representative and just prefer to complain to the wind...and this is one of the reasons why Americans have the government that we have.
                                                                                                        Last edited by theking; 05-06-2011, 01:43 PM.
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                                                                                                          • Vendzilla
                                                                                                            Biker Gnome
                                                                                                            • Mar 2004
                                                                                                            • 23200
                                                                                                            #127
                                                                                                            Originally posted by tony286
                                                                                                            News flash unemployment is never going down. Mcdonalds and walmart can only hire so many people. Lol this is the new normal get used to it and hope some radical doesnt come in and make online porn job one. They will keep lower taxes on the rich and big corporations while sticking it in the ass of the fading middle class. And the scary part is people like vend will keep voting against their own best interest while they get fucked in the ass deeper and deeper.
                                                                                                            I will never vote party lines, I vote for what I think will work, I just dont think the direction we are going now works, please let me know where it's working the way it's going now, thats all I ask!
                                                                                                            Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                            think about that

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                                                                                                              • tony286
                                                                                                                lurker
                                                                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                • 57021
                                                                                                                #128
                                                                                                                Originally posted by theking
                                                                                                                You are wrong...they do give a damn...as most of them want to be reelected and unless one is going to become a political activist it is the only way a person can effectively protest issues. I seriously doubt that one in ten thousand have ever actually contacted their representative and just prefer to complain to the wind...and this is one of the reasons why Americans have the government that we have.
                                                                                                                I agree its sad

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                                                                                                                  • tony286
                                                                                                                    lurker
                                                                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                    • 57021
                                                                                                                    #129
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                    I will never vote party lines, I vote for what I think will work, I just dont think the direction we are going now works, please let me know where it's working the way it's going now, thats all I ask!
                                                                                                                    Youre too partisan for me to believe that. I lean left but voted for deal for gov he isnt a democrat.whatever barry does will be wrong to u.

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                                                                                                                      • Vendzilla
                                                                                                                        Biker Gnome
                                                                                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                        • 23200
                                                                                                                        #130
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by LedZep
                                                                                                                        Since I own a dispensary I'm fairly certain Obama has never used the words 'pot collective', but hey, prove me wrong.
                                                                                                                        Good thing you own a dispensary since you can't use google
                                                                                                                        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert..._b_758389.html
                                                                                                                        Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                                        think about that

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                                                                                                                          • Vendzilla
                                                                                                                            Biker Gnome
                                                                                                                            • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                            • 23200
                                                                                                                            #131
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by tony286
                                                                                                                            Youre too partisan for me to believe that. I lean left but voted for deal for gov he isnt a democrat.whatever barry does will be wrong to u.
                                                                                                                            No, I actually agree alot with what Barry says, it's what Barry does that I hate.
                                                                                                                            Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                                            think about that

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                                                                                                                              • uno
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                                                                                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                • 18450
                                                                                                                                #132
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                No, I actually agree alot with what Barry says, it's what Barry does that I hate.
                                                                                                                                He does most of what he says he will do. I've said it before and I'll say it again: He plays a long game.

                                                                                                                                What has he said that he hasn't done that you liked in particular that bothers you?
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                                                                                                                                  • The Porn Nerd
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                                                                                                                                    • Jun 2009
                                                                                                                                    • 19780
                                                                                                                                    #133
                                                                                                                                    The US of A? Oh we're fucked like a $2 whore, no doubt.
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                                                                                                                                      • Rochard
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                                                                                                                                        • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                        • 75733
                                                                                                                                        #134
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                        People hated Bush so much, I don't think any republican could have won
                                                                                                                                        I think your right. I think that no matter what the Republican party put forth, they would have lost only because of the past eight years under Bush. I think McCain was a scapegoat. I was surprised it was as close as it was really.

                                                                                                                                        I also think the Republican party knew this and wanted to loose, knowing that the next four - eight years are going to suck donkey balls no matter which side is in office.

                                                                                                                                        I love the comments about how Obama promised to change this and fix this. That's call politics, get used to it.
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                                                                                                                                        Brooklyn, NY

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                                                                                                                                          • Rochard
                                                                                                                                            Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                                                                                                            • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                            • 75733
                                                                                                                                            #135
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by The Demon
                                                                                                                                            Rationalize much? (Unless it's sarcasm, then well played sir).
                                                                                                                                            Total sarcasm really.
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                                                                                                                                              • Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                Biker Gnome
                                                                                                                                                • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                                • 23200
                                                                                                                                                #136
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by uno
                                                                                                                                                He does most of what he says he will do. I've said it before and I'll say it again: He plays a long game.

                                                                                                                                                What has he said that he hasn't done that you liked in particular that bothers you?
                                                                                                                                                I think he played the game thinking the natural outlook was better than forecasted and that the future will pay for it.

                                                                                                                                                You mean like people will not have to change their current healthcare insurance? I have a lot of people that it's already changed and it's not even in effect yet.

                                                                                                                                                My buddy works for Coca Cola, it's union and they had to change their insurance coverage a few months ago.
                                                                                                                                                Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                                                                think about that

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                                                                                                                                                  • PornoMonster
                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                    • 2257
                                                                                                                                                    #137
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Ross
                                                                                                                                                    What a load of shit! Who is shooting "people" in Pakistan? The USA went in for 1 person and 1 person alone, some others got killed but I'd hardly call it the USA shooting people in Pakistan. Its done, over, won't happen again. Even Libya, who is the USA shooting in Libya?

                                                                                                                                                    The full article is biased, this coming from someone who couldn't give a flying fuck about USA politics as well!
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                                                                                                                                                      • Dead
                                                                                                                                                        They left the door open
                                                                                                                                                        • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                                        • 4746
                                                                                                                                                        #138
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by AmeliaG
                                                                                                                                                        I try to stay out of these things, but I find it depressing that you dismiss everyone on this board as pornographers, as if being politically aware is somehow incompatible with slangin' pr0n.

                                                                                                                                                        I'm really sick of the thing where people (not just you, but the majority) refuse to discuss issues and just shout partisan insults. If someone (such as Vendzilla) says something which is not wholly partisan, then the debate revolves around trying to shove him into one partisan box or another. White sheets? Come on, guys.
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                                                                                                                                                          • Babaganoosh
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                                                                                                                                                            • Nov 2001
                                                                                                                                                            • 15841
                                                                                                                                                            #139
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                            Only week minded fools call names when they have nothing else to say
                                                                                                                                                            "week" minded?

                                                                                                                                                            You really ARE that dumb, aren't you?
                                                                                                                                                            I like pie.

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                                                                                                                                                              • Babaganoosh
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                                                                                                                                                                • Nov 2001
                                                                                                                                                                • 15841
                                                                                                                                                                #140
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by The Demon
                                                                                                                                                                Considering you morons always blame Bush for the economy while crediting Obama for Osama's death, I'd say I was spot on. Nice job embarrassing yourself, jackass.
                                                                                                                                                                Who should I blame? Why should I not blame the guy who very obviously caused it? Really, are you dumb or just trolling?
                                                                                                                                                                I like pie.

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                                                                                                                                                                  • Kiopa_Matt
                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                    • Oct 2007
                                                                                                                                                                    • 1448
                                                                                                                                                                    #141
                                                                                                                                                                    For many Americans? Probably not. But you're fuck of alot better off than if McCain and Palin were running the country for the past 3 years, that's for sure.
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Barry-xlovecam
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                                                                                                                                                                        • Jun 2010
                                                                                                                                                                        • 18083
                                                                                                                                                                        #142
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by pornopete
                                                                                                                                                                        The US has to re-elect Bill Clinton, heck make him your king and sacrifice an intern to him every year, he is the only one who got it right.

                                                                                                                                                                        Damn right!!!!
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                                                                                                                                                                          • The Demon
                                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                            • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                                                            • 7336
                                                                                                                                                                            #143
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Babaganoosh
                                                                                                                                                                            Who should I blame? Why should I not blame the guy who very obviously caused it? Really, are you dumb or just trolling?
                                                                                                                                                                            I would ask you the same question but we both know the answer to that one, especially when you attempt to sound intelligible. I find it humorous. Oh btw, why not blame the guy who took a shitty economy and made it worse? Man you're a moron rofl.
                                                                                                                                                                            Greed is Good

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                                                                                                                                                                              • TheDoc
                                                                                                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                • 13827
                                                                                                                                                                                #144
                                                                                                                                                                                Hogwash....

                                                                                                                                                                                Shooting in 4 countries? Come on, lame twist. How about at war with 1 country, ended an illegal war with another, in a conflict, and worked with another to get a person the entire Country wanted.

                                                                                                                                                                                btw, Reagan had far more bullets in Countries that Obama has, by 3 times. Not that it makes a difference, unless it's a Republican in power.

                                                                                                                                                                                It costs 800b a year to run this boat, and Obama directly has spent less than 800b. Saying the debt went up under his watch is like saying he breaths air.

                                                                                                                                                                                Record gas prices happened in 09, we haven't reached the point again. Now if you're going to blame him for the increase, then you should credit him with the largest drop in 5 years as well.

                                                                                                                                                                                Outside of that the markets have grown, rather than shrank like they did the previous 10 years. The economic drop was stopped, which was being said was the next depression. Actually, even jobs and housing stopped it's major drops, prob will drop again but at least it quit from its depression like speeds. That's before all the civil stuff he's done, tax code work, shit the list is so long I couldn't list it all.

                                                                                                                                                                                It's not like Obama has done only bad...
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • RadicalSights
                                                                                                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Mar 2009
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 1595
                                                                                                                                                                                    #145
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                                    In my book, 250k a year is not rich, 250k won't buy a house where I live.
                                                                                                                                                                                    http://weatherfordtxhomesforsale.net..._tx_76087_8188

                                                                                                                                                                                    $250k will buy a house anywhere. Around $250k in Texas will get you a mini mansion

                                                                                                                                                                                    Where do you live. I've seen nice 4 bed room houses for like $80,000 in many states now. There's crazy good deals out there in realestate.
                                                                                                                                                                                    Last edited by RadicalSights; 05-07-2011, 03:18 AM.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Black All Through
                                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                        • Oct 2010
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 2078
                                                                                                                                                                                        #146
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Rochard

                                                                                                                                                                                        I blame our current situation on the Republican party. They caused all of this during the Bush administration, and to fix it they sent out McCain and Palin? That's the best the Republican party had to offer? LOL.
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Dirty Dane
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 9491
                                                                                                                                                                                            #147
                                                                                                                                                                                            Change....

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                                                Biker Gnome
                                                                                                                                                                                                • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 23200
                                                                                                                                                                                                #148
                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by RadicalSights
                                                                                                                                                                                                http://weatherfordtxhomesforsale.net..._tx_76087_8188

                                                                                                                                                                                                $250k will buy a house anywhere. Around $250k in Texas will get you a mini mansion

                                                                                                                                                                                                Where do you live. I've seen nice 4 bed room houses for like $80,000 in many states now. There's crazy good deals out there in realestate.
                                                                                                                                                                                                Thats Texas, I live in LA, house I live in is worth about 350k
                                                                                                                                                                                                Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                                                                                                                think about that

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Biker Gnome
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 23200
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Jesus H Christ
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Although I respect Vendzilla passion for politics, I've seen it go both ways with him and actually think he's been banned once for it. WTS, what puzzles me is the staunch political stance he and others proclaim from hearsay or slanted opinions via news/radio as they insult others that their opinions are totally correct, but when found wrong, fall silent or can never admit they're wrong.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Some peoples comments I just don't bother to read, but if proven wrong, I learn from that, in this thread the ones that are posting against me are not debating, but merely putting a label on me and quietly hoping no one will call them on it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    I've never been banned, I was called on something I got wrong on some gun legislation though
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                                                                                                                    think about that

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Barefootsies
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Choice is an Illusion
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 42635
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #150
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                                                        in this thread the ones that are posting against me are not debating, but merely putting a label on me and quietly hoping no one will call them on it.h
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Who would bother to debate you? I mean really...

                                                                                                                                                                                                        If anything, a quick peek at years of your daily political posts will show your bull headed bias. Historically, your prejudices are crystal clear and it's more than obvious that you will never change your position, nor are open minded in the least to the views of others on those political topics. Especially in regards to Democrats/liberals/particular issues.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        People would be better off debating a cat in their back yard.
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