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The Porn Nerd · 04-17-2011, 12:25 PM

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james_clickmemedia · 04-17-2011, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

CB's aren't actually 1 out of 100, which gives you 1%.. It's 1% over 100 CB's monthly, with a per-transaction ratio and monthly volume, all added/twisted together to give ratios to people that actually have ratios.

The bigger you are, the more you have to watch this.... and just because someone has multiple merchant accounts doesn't mean they're rolling CB's or exchanging volume. Because, once you're TB's size, if you pump a merchant account with sales - you can never stop, or you will always hit the CB limits.

I buy based on ROI, if my average is $30 PPS right now, no traffic buy in the world would get more than that.

I am not going to get into a discussion over how to manage merchant account and how CB's ratios are calculated. I am sure somebody finds what you have posted useful, thanks.

TheDoc · 04-17-2011, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by james_clickmemedia

I am not going to get into a discussion over how to manage merchant account and how CB's ratios are calculated. I am sure somebody finds what you have posted useful, thanks.

This isn't a discussion on CB's, no worries... You injected into the thread over the reflection of the industry stating your members are worth more than $30 thus you pay more than $30.

So to squash your half spam attempt I simply showed how you pay more and why a company like Topbucks has to watch things more. It doesn't make one better than the other, it's just why they're different.

kristin · 04-17-2011, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM

I once got a free access to their sites, it was like 6 years ago.. If I were a surfer, I would charge back after a first click in the members area back then. I could not find any original content, just bunch of feeds, games, ads and similiar shit. Total mess. Was the same with all the big sponsors from the time. I cant believe people actually stayed as members of these paysites. I seriously hope they completely rebuilt their sites.

So, 2004-05? We were already producing exclusive content. However if you go into our members area it looks like a bunch of feeds, cause they are -- ours. It's our leased feeds.

We just recently re-did the tours and members are to be more tube style, less feed-like. Our upsells have always been in their own section with a few on the main page (chat, cams, our other products, like mobile).

Hit me up for a new password, I'd love for you to take a look.

dynastoned · 04-17-2011, 02:46 PM

getting $20 pps? rofl you might as well go with revshare there is no benefit to that shit.

james_clickmemedia · 04-17-2011, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

This isn't a discussion on CB's, no worries... You injected into the thread over the reflection of the industry stating your members are worth more than $30 thus you pay more than $30.

So to squash your half spam attempt I simply showed how you pay more and why a company like Topbucks has to watch things more. It doesn't make one better than the other, it's just why they're different.

You don't squash anything I do and your opinion of your position here is vastly inflated. Your points would have more validity if you ran a program that had paid out millions of dollars over the last 13 years.
However I am surprised you have picked up a few buzz words over the years helping program owners setup nats etc.

Anything else you would like to share I am sure everybody is all ears, thanks.

TheDoc · 04-17-2011, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by james_clickmemedia

You don't squash anything I do and your opinion of your position here is vastly inflated. Your points would have more validity if you ran a program that had paid out millions of dollars over the last 13 years.
However I am surprised you have picked up a few buzz words over the years helping program owners setup nats etc.

Anything else you would like to share I am sure everybody is all ears, thanks.

HAHAHAHA... look at you try to be a somebody.

Funny stuff, I've paid tens of millions to affiliates, hell why keep track anymore. You know those pretty little trial member area / upgrades you use - make ya so much money? I hope you like'em, I'm the creator of them...

Buzz buzz....

One last thing to share, if I'm speaking, you should take notes, as it will probably make you money, I like to share my experience... even to wannabes.

Adam_M · 04-17-2011, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JFK

Could it be a reflection of the state of things ?

Yes JFK I think it is!

At the end of the day a member is worth less today then it was a few years ago, this has nothing to do with TB as a company and more to do with people having less money to spend. All you need to do is map the change in member decline due to "insufficient funds" to know this.

I think the companies that are blindly looking at primary sales numbers as the be all and end all of success are the ones people really need to worry about because they are the companies that one day close the doors and have nothing left to pay webmasters.

Buy a sale at $40 to make $32 from that member = Death

Changing payout inline with lower LTV of a member = Long term sustainable business.

Simple math but something to many people in this industry don't understand!

PR_Dave · 04-17-2011, 07:49 PM

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kristin · 04-17-2011, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Dave

http://www.xbiz.com/news/news_piece....all&q=pimproll

I guess that's the difference between our companies. You'd never see our owner posting about their program in a thread like this. But then again, you wouldn't see Kevin on GFY, or in the office, lol.

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james_clickmemedia · 04-18-2011, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

HAHAHAHA... look at you try to be a somebody.

Funny stuff, I've paid tens of millions to affiliates, hell why keep track anymore. You know those pretty little trial member area / upgrades you use - make ya so much money? I hope you like'em, I'm the creator of them...

Buzz buzz....

One last thing to share, if I'm speaking, you should take notes, as it will probably make you money, I like to share my experience... even to wannabes.

err ok....enough time wasted on you. Keep posting on gfy all day.

james_clickmemedia · 04-18-2011, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Dave

http://www.xbiz.com/news/news_piece....all&q=pimproll

Your too much

TheDoc · 04-18-2011, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by james_clickmemedia

err ok....enough time wasted on you. Keep posting on gfy all day.

Thanks for taking time out of your life to post, just once more!

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