What's better: Brazillian Jujitsu or Shaolin Kung Fu? - Page 3 - GoFuckYourself.com

ClickCashEmily · 10-10-2012, 06:58 AM

Have you gone and spoken with the master instructors at both dojos? Knowing the style isn't half as important as knowing who your teachers will be. You've got to resonate with the instructor and he/she has to understand what your goals are for taking the art.

When I was shopping around for a martial arts school, what mattered most was that I knew what I wanted out of the art. A good instructor will tell you if his/her art is for you. Most schools will let you go for a week or a month free to try it out. They'll also let you sit in on a few classes.

Keep in mind that what you're seeing at the beginner ranks is different than what you'll be taught at the higher ranks, and many styles these days incorporate techniques from all over. My SKK training started off in karate, but now we're definitely firmly inside Shaolin, working through the animals (SO COOL!) but we also do jujitsu and akido techniques because they make sense and don't detract from the core system. TheSenator is right: you never underestimate your opponent, so training that incorporates the four ways of fighting (kicking, punching, grappling, felling) is so super important. So is not being a slave to technique. If your instructors don't encourage you to think outside the box, and your opponent does something different than "what the guy in the technique always does" - you're hosed.

So my

... try both out, see which you like better, and don't let folks tell you your style sucks ass.

~Emily
1st Degree Black Belt, SKK

TheSquealer · 10-10-2012, 07:16 AM

Kung Fu is highly impractical and silly. It's not a martial art in any real sense of the word, its basically World of Warcraft in real life, for nerds who love to immerse themselves in fantasy. Of course there are rare examples of actual practical application and actual trainers who teach something real... but that's very rare. It always comes down to who is teaching... thats always going to be 95% of it. However, there is a reason UFC and similar competitions are dominated by kick boxing/grappling and not by goofy idiots doing the drunken monkey or whatever the fuck.

The biggest problem with traditional martial arts is the one that boxing/kick boxing/ muay thai doesn't have. They actually fight. It's real. You step into a ring and you win or lose. Thats why 99% of all martial arts are cultists living in a bubble... they don't put anything they do to the test as you do with boxing / kick boxing daily. Instead, they are all usually standing around talking about how "lethal" their "secrets" are when they've never been in a fight in their lives.

I've never trained BJJ... but knowing what I know about martial arts.. I would say the shittiest BJJ instructor is going to give you a great deal more in terms of practical, usual techniques than a good to great Kung Fu instructor... unless your goal is to learn to punch like a retard and learn a bunch of goofy poses and you are ready to believe he can knock people out by just throwing his "energy" at them... then go Kung Fu all the way.

If you are not going to commit to a lifestyle and to learning things that are going to take years to learn... i would highly suggest boxing so you at least learn to punch well, move well and protect yourself.

Best-In-BC · 10-10-2012, 07:17 AM

Its BJJ, I guess you dont know anything about fight at all

TheSquealer · 10-10-2012, 07:20 AM

Also, before some idiot spouts off about Kung Fu being around for many centuries as if that makes it somehow a practical option, i'd like to remind you that those people weren't training 2 times a week for 45 minutes. They were training 10 hours a day, 6 days a week and that was their life. Big fucking difference between serious people (warrior classes/monks) then and the narcissistic, instant gratification idiots of now.

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TheSenator · 10-10-2012, 08:56 AM

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WebairMetz · 10-10-2012, 11:21 AM

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AllAboutCams · 10-10-2012, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony

Kung Fu for the win. Not only will thousands of years of culture and training in the ways to kill make you a bad ass, it will also make you a better person.

If you get a chance to train in Five Animal styles, do so. In a streetfight, you can bust out Tiger style to break their will, or Crane style to poke out their eyes. Make sure you find out if you are training in northern fist or southern leg. That can make a HUGE difference in your training.

I'd stay away from that BJJ stuff, it's not really feasible for the street at all. I saw this stupid video the other day about one of those BJJ trainers from Australia who said BJJ was good for a street fight, I almost died laughing! I mean who fights like that?

Seriously, who wants to go to the ground, there's broken glass, dirty needles, and who knows what. Who wants to do that?! Kung Fu all the way!

Good advice

pornmasta · 10-10-2012, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

I've come home with a broken tooth 2x, broken nose, and a shiner that took 6 weeks to finally go away.

people practice martial arts for their safety...

btw, how fast can you run ?

pornmasta · 10-11-2012, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta

your opinion on systema ?
Worth the time ?

(this is for self defence purpose)

here is my answer:
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...hlight=systema
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...hlight=systema

i have the same feeling when i see some videos.
i'm bored...

JP-pornshooter · 10-11-2012, 04:55 PM

if you like to hug near naked sweaty guys a few times a week, then i would go with BJJ..

pornmasta · 10-11-2012, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter

if you like to hug near naked sweaty guys a few times a week, then i would go with BJJ..

well it's right that i hijacked the topic...

(but wasn't judo the same thing ? judo= not gay ? )

trevesty · 10-11-2012, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Interesting old bump. I am still doing Krav Maga 2x a week, but moved to a more advanced class that incorporates a firearm. I dig it but sadly miss the old basics because a group of us who'd meet on certain days and agreed NOT to sue each other then promptly kick the shit out of each other. In short, we'd separate the suburb dads from the guys who wanted to get every dime out of it.

I've come home with a broken tooth 2x, broken nose, and a shiner that took 6 weeks to finally go away. The Israeli instructor was there if it got too heated, but he was even impressed how serious we went at it.

Something about coming home all bloody and knowing the other guys were as well is awesome.

Krav is definitely the best for self defense, but it really depends on your situation(hence me rolling as much as I can). I'd rather put someone into an arm bar or RNC during some dumb bar fight than punching their trachea and potentially killing them.... unless they're armed, then it gets interesting.

AllAboutCams · 10-11-2012, 07:03 PM

Whats the best for loosing weight

TheSenator · 10-11-2012, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllAboutCams

Whats the best for loosing weight

Not eating...

AllAboutCams · 10-11-2012, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator

Not eating...

Original......

TheSenator · 10-11-2012, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllAboutCams

Original......

Well, that is what I always tell fat people.

Stop eating, shut your mouth and you will lose weight.

Your body will actually start using your fat reverse that you have been building up for energy.

AllAboutCams · 10-11-2012, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator

Well, that is what I always tell fat people.

Stop eating, shut your mouth and you will lose weight.

Your body will actually start using your fat reverse that you have been building up for energy.

OK i will not eat and do no exercise at all

Major (Tom) · 10-12-2012, 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator

BJJ is first and foremost a self-defense martial strategy. There is no martial art in the world that deals with realistic fight situations. Judo use to super bad ass back in the old days because it had a lot more newaza. Today, Judo is a water downed version because of all the rules imposed by the Olympic committee. BJJ encompasses Judo throws and wrestling take downs with a heavy emphasis on ground technique. "Pulling guard" is mostly used in sports jiu jitsu and is never taught as a self-defense strategy.

BJJ has already been proving to be the most effect fight system in the world when Royce Gracie fought in the UFC. The UFC back then had no rules and a fighter would fight up to three to five fights a night. Royce dominated the UFC for about three years.

BJJ will get you in shape and also exercise the brain. The warm ups and live sparring quickly add muscles and crazy cardio. All the moves that you learn, body positioning, submissions become your tools as you roll. The mind body connection is constantly evolving because you get to roll with different level belts, body types and ages.

BJJ is not for every one though. BJJ is a contact sport with extreme human contact. Some people don't like being touched or hugged. If you are not comfortable with close contact then BJJ is not for you.

Give BJJ a try for about a week to see if you like it.

krav is way more real fight situation than bjj
krav is meant to disable someone in the most oppurtune way.
I'd pick krav anyday over bjj
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Major (Tom) · 10-12-2012, 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Both times Fedor Emelianenko lose, he lose to Jiu Jitsu guys. FYI: Fedor has trained a combatant SAMBO which is based on Judo (a bit more brutal version of it).

both times fedor lost he went in for the kill on opponents who were down. Verdum bated him in. Hendo had him on queer street fast
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pornmasta · 10-16-2012, 04:52 PM

what's a macdojo ?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mcdojo

lock · 01-16-2013, 04:11 AM

go japanese instead.

alex.missyouth · 01-16-2013, 05:02 AM

I prefer Shaolin Kung Fu.

ShowMe69 · 01-16-2013, 08:25 AM

Shaolin Kung Fu for 3-5 yrs then later would switch to Jujitsu

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