My concept, my idea, my specifications, and I told you upfront this was to only be for me. There are a shit load of people that can that work. You fucked up. My site was purely setup to advertise the project and show the demo only to those that I made sure were legit. I didn't say a word about any billing going through me. The customer could of paid you. You flew off the handle and accused me of stealing your code, when we had already agreed on a 50/50 deal. You are the one that backed out, and I had a very large amount of inquires about it the last few months. You threw away money and you are a retard.
You jumped to conclusions and accused me of stealing your fucking code when it was going to be both of us profiting off of it, and billing didn't matter who it went through. You could of kept all the fucking downloads on your site for when purchase came through. Instead of discussing that with my you flew off the handle like a fucking moron, and now fuck you Ill get a new coder and you will be out cash that you could of basically made for doing very little work on your part. You would of got paid for any customer installs too, custom skins, and adjustments the companies wanted. Thats what you get for rushing to conclusions and acting like a cunt over email acting like I was trying to steal your softward. The demo would of been a neutral skin none of the ones I have. You have proven yourself to be a flakey stupid fucker that fucked up on and opportunity to make money with barely any work. Just go away.
I just watched a silly YouTube embedded video on GFY. I didn't leave GFY. I didn't get redirected anywhere else. I didn't even see a URL for me to type in.
Sticky, if anyone feels like beating you up over anything it should be for actually giving this guy work in the first place.
Took me a full 2 mins to kill his youtube version. His host also has a dmca for using photos I own the copyright to. Funny he tried to accuse me of stealing his software and code and going to resell it, when I wasn't even going to do the billing for it. I was selling the product him and I came together. A product that was my concept, my idea, I had to show him how to implement all the features it needed, make sure it worked with remote url call, rtmp and rtmpe, able to work with .flv and .mp4 and h.264 codec. Now he is talking about selling MY CONCEPT, and MY idea that I paid him to develop. Not for him to develop it steal my idea and resell it to others. This is why I am doing NDA's this time and everything will be done using a contract.
No problem, maybe Erika/Dixie can file a complaint about
no model release for the pics too.
She already did that and I promptly showed the signed model releases, id's etc and they were denied. Models DO NOT own the copyright to any photo unless they have a signed contract saying so. Photographer ALWAYS retains full copyright unless as said there is a contract stating otherwise.
What's funny about this drama, is that it's all over a barely mediocre girl who considers taking multiple loads of jizz on her face as a step up in life.
Took me a full 2 mins to kill his youtube version. His host also has a dmca for using photos I own the copyright to. Funny he tried to accuse me of stealing his software and code and going to resell it, when I wasn't even going to do the billing for it. I was selling the product him and I came together. A product that was my concept, my idea, I had to show him how to implement all the features it needed, make sure it worked with remote url call, rtmp and rtmpe, able to work with .flv and .mp4 and h.264 codec. Now he is talking about selling MY CONCEPT, and MY idea that I paid him to develop. Not for him to develop it steal my idea and resell it to others. This is why I am doing NDA's this time and everything will be done using a contract.
OK dude, this has gone on long enough.
I never thought this thread would go anywhere.
I told you what I needed to do and you were free to do what you wanted to do
and we handled it all on email and ICQ.
But when you posted the insults to start this thread you should have known I would
respond. You could have posted to find a programmer without calling someone else
a flake or drug user(slander by the way).
You did that.
Why didn't you just post quietly that you were looking without trying to slander
someone. People know I made that player for you that you have been using
for months. Why did you do that?
What's funny about this drama, is that it's all over a barely mediocre girl who considers taking multiple loads of jizz on her face as a step up in life.
I told you what I needed to do and you were free to do what you wanted to do
and we handled it all on email and ICQ.
But when you posted the insults to start this thread you should have known I would
respond. You could have posted to find a programmer without calling someone else
a flake or drug user(slander by the way).
You did that.
Why didn't you just post quietly that you were looking without trying to slander
someone. People know I made that player for you that you have been using
for months. Why did you do that?
Why?
I purposely did not name you, did not drag you into it, no one knew that you had done the work. And you went off on me first on email. I was very cordial with you even after that on email trying to sort the situation out, and you went off on me and accused me of stealing from you. It sounds like you misjudged my email and its intentions, and jumped the gun. I was counting on you in order to launch this thing, and I have been working when I had time to slowly promote what was coming, and then when I am ready to do a press release I simply asked you to help me get a demo up on the site I am going to use to launch the project. Probably would of taken you about 5 mins, and I would of sent you some money on epass to help me even. I in NO WAY was going to sell the player without you getting exactly what we had agreed upon. You should of talked to me further. The player only needs a few revisions, and a few other skins done to be ready to go. I still don't understand why you suddenly went from us being in agreement to you accusing me of trying to steal your code and sell it. Is it not possible that you misread the situation and jumped the gun?
Shit man, everytime I go to the grocery store, I have to shake hotter bitches than that off my leg before I even hit the proximity sensor for the enter door.
And don't forget to increase your webcam arsenal with the magic links in my sig!
Parody is protected under fair use. What sortie made is in no way copyright infringement. File a counter notice and the thing will be back up in a couple weeks for good.
Abusing DMCA is pretty shitty and filing false complaints hurts all copyright owners.
I told you what I needed to do and you were free to do what you wanted to do
and we handled it all on email and ICQ.
But when you posted the insults to start this thread you should have known I would
respond. You could have posted to find a programmer without calling someone else
a flake or drug user(slander by the way).
You did that.
Why didn't you just post quietly that you were looking without trying to slander
someone. People know I made that player for you that you have been using
for months. Why did you do that?
Why?
To be clear where did I name you?
Originally posted by stickyfingerz
Hit me up asap. In middle of launching a new venture and flakey ass developer is apparently on some sort of mind altering drug. Need someone that is stable, willing to sign a contract, that will follow through with what they obligated themselves to. Must be very familiar with programming flash scripts, and able to implement tight security measures. Any work you complete will be part of the partnership. You will also have to sign a NDA. If you are a flake at all then don't bother. If you got the chops for this hit me up. [email protected]
And how would I not consider you flakey after we have talked on email for months and I have told you I have been working to gain interest in the project, and waiting till the timing was right to launch. The time was right, I hit you up to make sure all was cool and ask for some help getting the demo running correctly so I could show it to potential buyers. I DID NOT say anything about how the billing would be done. I did NOT SAY that I was going to sell it on my own. I was following the deal that we made to a T.
1. 50/50 split on sale of the player itself.
2. Any customer installs you would receive the money for and I wouldn't take any of the money.
3. Custom skins, changes and tweaks to match customers needs would of been all yours.
4. I would get paid to re encode customer video files to the best format.
5. I would get paid for consulting with the customer.
6. I would get paid for after the player was up and running adding in all the videos, thumbs titles and descriptions etc if that was what the client wanted done (have one right now wanting the full solution)
Billing could of all been figured out, we could of drawn up contracts to cover and make sure the splits were all covered.
I never once said I was taking the player and selling it on my own. That was your huge jump to conclusions. And at that point I needed to find someone to redo the project as this is a good business that could do very well, and it is currently in demand. So I offer and olive branch now. If you want to discuss things and try to work out a resolve to the situation you know how to reach me. Yes I put in my thread that I wanted someone that wasn't flakey, because frankly that is what you did to me. Everyone that has seen this solution has been interested.
And to the folks that don't know. This is a stand alone mini cms video player. Ability to add videos right from an admin area, quick and easy to do. Player is the most secure out there. Very unlikely anyone would be able to easily get your videos out of the members area.
Anyways I've extended the olive branch and its upto you at this point if you want to discuss resolving things and seeing if we can't make some money off work already mostly completed.
I purposely did not name you, did not drag you into it, no one knew that you had done the work. And you went off on me first on email. I was very cordial with you even after that on email trying to sort the situation out, and you went off on me and accused me of stealing from you. It sounds like you misjudged my email and its intentions, and jumped the gun. I was counting on you in order to launch this thing, and I have been working when I had time to slowly promote what was coming, and then when I am ready to do a press release I simply asked you to help me get a demo up on the site I am going to use to launch the project. Probably would of taken you about 5 mins, and I would of sent you some money on epass to help me even. I in NO WAY was going to sell the player without you getting exactly what we had agreed upon. You should of talked to me further. The player only needs a few revisions, and a few other skins done to be ready to go. I still don't understand why you suddenly went from us being in agreement to you accusing me of trying to steal your code and sell it. Is it not possible that you misread the situation and jumped the gun?
You don't think I used that player as a example of my work???????
You think that after posting those comments that I would believe you would not
start bad mouthing me to anyone who asked?
You mentioned above about "The player only needs a few revisions", now why would
I care to do that for no money?
I got mad because you just seemed not to hear me say over and over again that
I needed money up front or I wasn't going to do anything.
Look at the ICQ log.
There was nothing left to do but to tell you to take a hike since you refused to hear
me saying that I needed money up front!
I don't want any partners, I want money!
Give me some if you want something done.
And apologise for making this thread in the tone you chose.
Then we can move on.
Parody is protected under fair use. What sortie made is in no way copyright infringement. File a counter notice and the thing will be back up in a couple weeks for good.
Abusing DMCA is pretty shitty and filing false complaints hurts all copyright owners.
Funny that you enjoy copyright infringement. Who do you think owns the copyright on those photos? And like I care anyways. Pathetic and childish just like you were when I dealt with you. Its cool though, sure Ill have fun following you around and making sure people are aware not to deal with you. Or are you going to deny again that you were paid in full for work (70.00 beyond your quote) and still did not include the requested features that I asked for. Funny I recall you thanking me for the extra money I threw you.
Sure that is a good idea?
Wouldn't take much for him to find a few threads of chaos about you
TripleXPrint on Megan Fox "I would STILL suck her pussy until her face caved in. And then blow her up and do it again!"
You don't think I used that player as a example of my work???????
You think that after posting those comments that I would believe you would not
start bad mouthing me to anyone who asked?
You mentioned above about "The player only needs a few revisions", now why would
I care to do that for no money?
I got mad because you just seemed not to hear me say over and over again that
I needed money up front or I wasn't going to do anything.
Look at the ICQ log.
There was nothing left to do but to tell you to take a hike since you refused to hear
me saying that I needed money up front!
I don't want any partners, I want money!
Give me some if you want something done.
And apologise for making this thread in the tone you chose.
Then we can move on.
All I needed when I emailed was for you to take 2 mins worth of your time and see why the demo wasn't working correctly. I just needed to change one line somewhere so it was set to the new domain name. You would of had a sale and made money right off from the first sale, and made other money for the support aspect. I would of sent you 20.00 or whatever just to get the demo going so I would be able to start showing potential clients. You didn't even ask me about money. This all could of went like this.
Me: I need to get this demo going so I can start gettin us some sales from the site.
You: Oh well do you mind throwing me a bit of money to cover my time until we start getting some sales from it?
Me: Sure how much do you need? I just need to get the demo so it is pointed at the right domain name, we can worry about other skins and stuff etc later on.
You: Well 20 to 50.00 would be fine and Ill get it setup.
Me: Ok awesome cause I have a lot of interest and have a few companies wanting to get the full setup done. Player / install / videos encoded / thumbs / titles / descriptions the whole ball of was, so it should be a nice payout.
You: Oh well cool 20 to 50 sounds fair gimme an ftp login and Ill take a look.
Me: Ok here is the ftp sending you money to ftp now.
You: ok sounds good.
Thats how it all should of went. I never asked you to do anything for free, never said I was stealing your code. Simply was trying to get the site setup in order to put out a press release and be able to show potential clients. Billing could go through you, through me, epass, paypal I don't give a fuck. Just so we stay on the same page on everything. Could just have them send 1/2 to my epass, half to yours. However. You jumped to conclusions and none of this should of happened. You accused me of stealing your code and flew off the handle for no reason. If its a big misunderstanding then its something we should be able to work through and solve. Perhaps email or icq would be a better way to communicate about this and see if we can't solve the issue and make some money as we have talked about for months, and I thought we were in agreement on. Just let me know. I am a very reasonable person and am glad to settle disputes in the manner that is most fair to both parties.
All I needed when I emailed was for you to take 2 mins worth of your time and see why the demo wasn't working correctly. I just needed to change one line somewhere so it was set to the new domain name. You would of had a sale and made money right off from the first sale, and made other money for the support aspect. I would of sent you 20.00 or whatever just to get the demo going so I would be able to start showing potential clients. You didn't even ask me about money. This all could of went like this.
Me: I need to get this demo going so I can start gettin us some sales from the site.
You: Oh well do you mind throwing me a bit of money to cover my time until we start getting some sales from it?
Me: Sure how much do you need? I just need to get the demo so it is pointed at the right domain name, we can worry about other skins and stuff etc later on.
You: Well 20 to 50.00 would be fine and Ill get it setup.
Me: Ok awesome cause I have a lot of interest and have a few companies wanting to get the full setup done. Player / install / videos encoded / thumbs / titles / descriptions the whole ball of was, so it should be a nice payout.
You: Oh well cool 20 to 50 sounds fair gimme an ftp login and Ill take a look.
Me: Ok here is the ftp sending you money to ftp now.
You: ok sounds good.
Thats how it all should of went. I never asked you to do anything for free, never said I was stealing your code. Simply was trying to get the site setup in order to put out a press release and be able to show potential clients. Billing could go through you, through me, epass, paypal I don't give a fuck. Just so we stay on the same page on everything. Could just have them send 1/2 to my epass, half to yours. However. You jumped to conclusions and none of this should of happened. You accused me of stealing your code and flew off the handle for no reason. If its a big misunderstanding then its something we should be able to work through and solve. Perhaps email or icq would be a better way to communicate about this and see if we can't solve the issue and make some money as we have talked about for months, and I thought we were in agreement on. Just let me know. I am a very reasonable person and am glad to settle disputes in the manner that is most fair to both parties.
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All I needed when I emailed was for you to take 2 mins worth of your time and see why the demo wasn't working correctly. I just needed to change one line somewhere so it was set to the new domain name. You would of had a sale and made money right off from the first sale, and made other money for the support aspect. I would of sent you 20.00 or whatever just to get the demo going so I would be able to start showing potential clients. You didn't even ask me about money. This all could of went like this.
Me: I need to get this demo going so I can start gettin us some sales from the site.
You: Oh well do you mind throwing me a bit of money to cover my time until we start getting some sales from it?
Me: Sure how much do you need? I just need to get the demo so it is pointed at the right domain name, we can worry about other skins and stuff etc later on.
You: Well 20 to 50.00 would be fine and Ill get it setup.
Me: Ok awesome cause I have a lot of interest and have a few companies wanting to get the full setup done. Player / install / videos encoded / thumbs / titles / descriptions the whole ball of was, so it should be a nice payout.
You: Oh well cool 20 to 50 sounds fair gimme an ftp login and Ill take a look.
Me: Ok here is the ftp sending you money to ftp now.
You: ok sounds good.
Thats how it all should of went. I never asked you to do anything for free, never said I was stealing your code. Simply was trying to get the site setup in order to put out a press release and be able to show potential clients. Billing could go through you, through me, epass, paypal I don't give a fuck. Just so we stay on the same page on everything. Could just have them send 1/2 to my epass, half to yours. However. You jumped to conclusions and none of this should of happened. You accused me of stealing your code and flew off the handle for no reason. If its a big misunderstanding then its something we should be able to work through and solve. Perhaps email or icq would be a better way to communicate about this and see if we can't solve the issue and make some money as we have talked about for months, and I thought we were in agreement on. Just let me know. I am a very reasonable person and am glad to settle disputes in the manner that is most fair to both parties.
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Shit man, everytime I go to the grocery store, I have to shake hotter bitches than that off my leg before I even hit the proximity sensor for the enter door.
And don't forget to increase your webcam arsenal with the magic links in my sig!
Yes, you're such a winner, we can tell by your sigwhore status, bitches are just ALL OVER YOU everywhere you go, because you're so good-looking, wealthy, discriminating and just cool like that in general. WAAAAAY too good for some 20 yr old chick who's only an 8 at best.
All I needed when I emailed was for you to take 2 mins worth of your time and see why the demo wasn't working correctly. I just needed to change one line somewhere so it was set to the new domain name. You would of had a sale and made money right off from the first sale, and made other money for the support aspect. I would of sent you 20.00 or whatever just to get the demo going so I would be able to start showing potential clients. You didn't even ask me about money. This all could of went like this.
Me: I need to get this demo going so I can start gettin us some sales from the site.
You: Oh well do you mind throwing me a bit of money to cover my time until we start getting some sales from it?
Me: Sure how much do you need? I just need to get the demo so it is pointed at the right domain name, we can worry about other skins and stuff etc later on.
You: Well 20 to 50.00 would be fine and Ill get it setup.
Me: Ok awesome cause I have a lot of interest and have a few companies wanting to get the full setup done. Player / install / videos encoded / thumbs / titles / descriptions the whole ball of was, so it should be a nice payout.
You: Oh well cool 20 to 50 sounds fair gimme an ftp login and Ill take a look.
Me: Ok here is the ftp sending you money to ftp now.
You: ok sounds good.
Thats how it all should of went. I never asked you to do anything for free, never said I was stealing your code. Simply was trying to get the site setup in order to put out a press release and be able to show potential clients. Billing could go through you, through me, epass, paypal I don't give a fuck. Just so we stay on the same page on everything. Could just have them send 1/2 to my epass, half to yours. However. You jumped to conclusions and none of this should of happened. You accused me of stealing your code and flew off the handle for no reason. If its a big misunderstanding then its something we should be able to work through and solve. Perhaps email or icq would be a better way to communicate about this and see if we can't solve the issue and make some money as we have talked about for months, and I thought we were in agreement on. Just let me know. I am a very reasonable person and am glad to settle disputes in the manner that is most fair to both parties.
It is your "unqualified opinion" that it would take 2 minutes.
I've never done anything in programming that took 2 minutes.
You don't respect programmers and that is evident in you thinking that this would
take only two minutes.
I thought something only took 2 minutes then I would have been done it in 1 and 1/2 minutes.
This silly game where "non-programmers" tell the programmer how much time something
take to code is 100% bullshit.
If it only takes 2 minutes then why can't you do it yourself in 2 days????????
To claim satire would mean that his work would have to be able to stand on it's own without the use of your images and liknesses. For instance if his video was commenting on the Iraq War but he chose to use images from your site in the video. The Iraq War would be the subject of his commentary and thus his use of your copyrighted material would not be covered.
But he is using your material to comment on you and your situation. Therefore, he is protected.
It is your "unqualified opinion" that it would take 2 minutes.
I've never done anything in programming that took 2 minutes.
You don't respect programmers and that is evident in you thinking that this would
take only two minutes.
I thought something only took 2 minutes then I would have been done it in 1 and 1/2 minutes.
This silly game where "non-programmers" tell the programmer how much time something
take to code is 100% bullshit.
If it only takes 2 minutes then why can't you do it yourself in 2 days????????
Huh???????
No all you needed to do was tell me where to change the allowable url setting, and its something I can probably figured out on my own, but if you are not going to be on board I won't bother. You did it on the other players including changing the skin colors in like 15 mins. But whatever man. If you don't want to be involved fine, Ill continue talking to other programmers and get it done that way. Im trying to be adult and cordial about this. Yet you are still being snippy with me.
I don't want any partners, I want money!
Give me some if you want something done.
And apologise for making this thread in the tone you chose.
Then we can move on.
Don't do it sortie. Programmer to programmer don't do it.
He is full of shit.
You quoted him 1200, he somehow got you to agree to 300. So, you did not do it for "quote", you did it for well below quote.
Your part of the deal was the player. You did your part.
is part was to sell it. A year later he has not delivered one drop of his promise. He says he is out there "building interest".
He wants you to do this all based on "potential". Well, I bought a powerball ticket the other night so I am potentially a very rich man. You aren't gonna see me kill my business because of it though.
You made the right decision to toss the agreement (that he wasn't keeping) do not reverse course at this point.
one line and recompile. I could just as easily embed the player on nerdynora and put the demo in an Iframe on the othersite. But to say it will be time consuming is silly.
No all you needed to do was tell me where to change the allowable url setting, and its something I can probably figured out on my own, but if you are not going to be on board I won't bother. You did it on the other players including changing the skin colors in like 15 mins. But whatever man. If you don't want to be involved fine, Ill continue talking to other programmers and get it done that way. Im trying to be adult and cordial about this. Yet you are still being snippy with me.
See, that is exactly where you are wrong.
I actually have to recode that in the player.
And I have to do it that way so that your members area doesn't get fucking JACKED!!!!!
So, I'm thru with the drama.
This thread went on way too long.
There is no partnership, there never was one and it will stay that way.
Don't do it sortie. Programmer to programmer don't do it.
He is full of shit.
You quoted him 1200, he somehow got you to agree to 300. So, you did not do it for "quote", you did it for well below quote.
Your part of the deal was the player. You did your part.
is part was to sell it. A year later he has not delivered one drop of his promise. He says he is out there "building interest".
He wants you to do this all based on "potential". Well, I bought a powerball ticket the other night so I am potentially a very rich man. You aren't gonna see me kill my business because of it though.
You made the right decision to toss the agreement (that he wasn't keeping) do not reverse course at this point.
Time will prove you right.
HE NEVER quoted me 1200.00 lmao read up above you fucking idiot. lol
Yes, you're such a winner, we can tell by your sigwhore status, bitches are just ALL OVER YOU everywhere you go, because you're so good-looking, wealthy, discriminating and just cool like that in general. WAAAAAY too good for some 20 yr old chick who's only an 8 at best.
You're right, my magnetism is pretty strong. Look at how I post something not even related to you and you start swinging from my sack like a tranny tarzan.
Don't do it sortie. Programmer to programmer don't do it.
He is full of shit.
You quoted him 1200, he somehow got you to agree to 300. So, you did not do it for "quote", you did it for well below quote.
Your part of the deal was the player. You did your part.
is part was to sell it. A year later he has not delivered one drop of his promise. He says he is out there "building interest".
He wants you to do this all based on "potential". Well, I bought a powerball ticket the other night so I am potentially a very rich man. You aren't gonna see me kill my business because of it though.
You made the right decision to toss the agreement (that he wasn't keeping) do not reverse course at this point.
Time will prove you right.
Oh I'm not doing any more work for him.
He's already trying to "break" the player to give my code to another programmer.
He should know that attempting to undo a swf is a copyright violation.
HE NEVER quoted me 1200.00 lmao read up above you fucking idiot. lol
Um, stinkboy. You hit someone up about a job and they tell you it is a $1200.00 job and that is the quote.
That you and he negotiated a lower price does not negate the fact that you were quoted $1200.00 up front.
Originally posted by sortie
You don't pay you fucking BITCH!!
It took me three months to get a $300 payment for a $1200 job.
You loser ass fake bragger about money. You don't fucking have any!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by sortie
Hey, listen you fuckwad.
You contacted me to do a player, I told you it was a $1200 job and then you began all
this "Slick Talk" about how you were going to do me some good and I should do it for
less after I had already started.
So seeing that you were ready to fuck me over, I agreed to do it for $600. But no; you
didn't have $600 to pay for it so you came up with the "CCBill line".
Sticky Said : "I have people at ccbill that will license the player and you can make more
money, so I will only pay you only $300".
Ok..............
I always thought it was weird that you kept dropping all these CCBilll names but they
never contacted me when I told you that they should email me about this if they
really are going to sell this thru their CDN services.
I never once spoke to anyone from CCBill about this!!!!
You paid $300, and you got your fucking custom player more than a year ago.
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