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  • HorseShit
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Dec 2004
    • 17513

    #1001
    one thousand

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    • JFK
      FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
      • Jan 2002
      • 67373

      #1002
      one thousand and One trainwrecks

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      • 420
        cuck
        • Mar 2003
        • 11571

        #1003
        Originally posted by sarettah
        So, it must be that Gonzo has stolen her, put a choker collar around her neck and is making her do all this stuff that she doesn't really want to.
        Have any pics of that?
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        • sarettah
          see you later, I'm gone
          • Oct 2002
          • 14293

          #1004
          Originally posted by 420
          Have any pics of that?
          Don't try to turn this into a business thread. dammit
          All cookies cleared!

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          • Legendary Samir - BANNED FOR LIFE
            So Fucking Banned
            • Jun 2007
            • 1442

            #1005
            Sticky, will you be attending gay parade this year?

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            • CDSmith
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • May 2001
              • 51460

              #1006
              Originally posted by sarettah
              No no no CD,

              You just don't understand.

              Much like Stinky stealing the dog, he thinks Gonzo has stolen his pet.

              Read what he writes. He is personally responsible for all she was/is. If it wasn't for him rescuing her she would be dead or worse. She does not have the ability to decide for herself, she just goes out there and wanders anywhere and everywhere she will, constantly pulling against the leash and pissing wherever she wants.

              And sticky is the only one who knows how to control that leash and keep her on the path.

              So, it must be that Gonzo has stolen her, put a choker collar around her neck and is making her do all this stuff that she doesn't really want to.

              And if stinkboy can't have his prize pet back he will try to destroy her chances of success.

              Even if it destroys him in the process.


              And if that's not love. What is?
              So Gonzo isn't a hypnotist? :D
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              • stickyfingerz
                Doin fine
                • Oct 2005
                • 24984

                #1007
                Originally posted by sarettah
                No no no CD,

                You just don't understand.

                Much like Stinky stealing the dog, he thinks Gonzo has stolen his pet.

                Read what he writes. He is personally responsible for all she was/is. If it wasn't for him rescuing her she would be dead or worse. She does not have the ability to decide for herself, she just goes out there and wanders anywhere and everywhere she will, constantly pulling against the leash and pissing wherever she wants.

                And sticky is the only one who knows how to control that leash and keep her on the path.

                So, it must be that Gonzo has stolen her, put a choker collar around her neck and is making her do all this stuff that she doesn't really want to.

                And if stinkboy can't have his prize pet back he will try to destroy her chances of success.

                Even if it destroys him in the process.


                And if that's not love. What is?
                A. I paid for the dog, I trained the dog, I potty trained the dog, I cleaned up 90% of its messes, she took off and left that dog. Thats an interesting version of stealing. I did not even want another dog, she did. Now that I have it my dog and the new dog are friends and enjoying each other. She doesn't know how to take care of a pet and I had to do everything.
                B. It WAS NOT ME that brought all this out publicly. You act like I wanted to hurt her. I was publicly accused of bullshit, and had private issues brought out publicly. Find me just one place I have ever said a bad word about her. You fuckwads and your love of that loser Gonzo blinds you from the fact that him and her jumped onto this thread in order to try and do damage TO ME. I did not attack them, did not say a word about them. Why would I try and ruin her when I have a solo girl site that that could affect sales? Your logic is the typical flawed logic of the "old schooler". Talk about me being gay. How does that fat scummy fucks cock taste?

                So I am attacked without provocation on a board I do business on, in a thread that had no relation to anything that they are doing, and I am trying to hurt her chances of having a site? Jesus fuck you are a twat.

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                • sarettah
                  see you later, I'm gone
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 14293

                  #1008
                  Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                  You act like I wanted to hurt her.
                  If you didn't want to do it, then you wouldn't be doing it. Pretty much that simple.

                  Nobody in your head but you. No one else is responsible for your actions, just you.
                  All cookies cleared!

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                  • 420
                    cuck
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 11571

                    #1009
                    Those collar pics sounded hot but I will just fantasize.

                    I have no idea who stickyfingerz or gonzo are. I am here for my love of reality television.
                    <!--BEGIN SIMUTRONICS PLAY BUTTON CODE -->
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                    <img src="drplay.gif" width="128" height="64" alt="Play DragonRealms!"></a></p>

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                    • sarettah
                      see you later, I'm gone
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 14293

                      #1010
                      Originally posted by CDSmith
                      So Gonzo isn't a hypnotist? :D
                      He could be. I have seen him make people cluck like a chicken evry now and again.
                      All cookies cleared!

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                      • stickyfingerz
                        Doin fine
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 24984

                        #1011
                        Originally posted by sarettah
                        If you didn't want to do it, then you wouldn't be doing it. Pretty much that simple.

                        Nobody in your head but you. No one else is responsible for your actions, just you.
                        Yes you are right I should let her ruin me with no retort. Sounds like a brilliant plan. I warned her on the phone the other night when we talked and she didn't want to work things out and was trying to blackmail me to force me to take her site down. She thought since she has Gonzo on her side, the Lord of porn as he calls himself, and had some sort of immunity from public opinion once she went public trying to hurt me. If I was out to hurt her why did I wait almost 2 days to even respond? Do you know how hard it was for me to do that? I had icq's all over my desktop saying I needed to end her, and I kept saying I didn't want to do that. But once my wifes name was posted, and threats made again about her going to my wife to make sure I can't see my kids again the gloves came off. She already contacted my wife once trying to blackmail me.

                        That really the kind of people you want in your corner there champ?

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                        • sarettah
                          see you later, I'm gone
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 14293

                          #1012
                          Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                          Blah, blah, alah, all kinds of defensive shit, blah, blah

                          If you did not want to do it, you would not have done it. That simple. Doesn't matter what your motivations are. By the time you did it, you wanted to do it.

                          Quit blaming the world for your independent actions.

                          All cookies cleared!

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                          • Agent 488
                            Registered User
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 22511

                            #1013
                            cut off all connections with the appalachian princess and focus on what makes you money and keep rebuilding the bridges with your kids.

                            you are going to go insane.

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                            • Legendary Samir - BANNED FOR LIFE
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 1442

                              #1014
                              Originally posted by budsbabes
                              focus on what makes you money
                              well, now we know why hes here. There is anything to focus on.

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                              • Common Sense
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 183

                                #1015
                                two older guys fighting over below average content girl. cant get much sadder than that.

                                sticky, gonzo is just doing what you were doing. promising a girl you will save her and make her money so that you could fuck her. neither of you are edward lewis.

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                                • BusterBunny
                                  perverted justice decoy
                                  • Aug 2005
                                  • 19291

                                  #1016
                                  i'm trying to figure out if this is more epic than the ron weiner incident or not...i think weiner still takes the cake tho
                                  my sig caught gonoherpasyphilaids and died

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                                  • Qbert
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jun 2004
                                    • 813

                                    #1017
                                    Originally posted by Common Sense
                                    two older guys fighting over below average content girl. cant get much sadder than that.

                                    sticky, gonzo is just doing what you were doing. promising a girl you will save her and make her money so that you could fuck her. neither of you are edward lewis.
                                    Just a point of clarification. The only person that has posted anything about Gonzo making her any promises was Sticky, so consider the source.

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                                    • stickyfingerz
                                      Doin fine
                                      • Oct 2005
                                      • 24984

                                      #1018
                                      Originally posted by budsbabes
                                      cut off all connections with the appalachian princess and focus on what makes you money and keep rebuilding the bridges with your kids.

                                      you are going to go insane.
                                      Talking to my kids everyday. Have a solid offline source of income, working on online mainstream projects newest of which has already done 60,000 uniques since May 9th and that was the day I bought the domain and built the site. Working on all my adult sites and am revamping most everything, streamlined everything, sold off stuff that wasn't making that much income for me, refocused on the things that are. Ill be in Japan within a month or so just trying to get things all caught up before I go over. Will be there 3 weeks probably, and we are trying to come up with a plan for them to move back here. Hopefully they will be back here before fall.


                                      Btw talking to a few programmers about the original project this thread was about long ago. Still looking for others so email me.

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                                      • stickyfingerz
                                        Doin fine
                                        • Oct 2005
                                        • 24984

                                        #1019
                                        Originally posted by Qbert
                                        Just a point of clarification. The only person that has posted anything about Gonzo making her any promises was Sticky, so consider the source.
                                        The source was Dixie telling me that everytime she called me, and how everyone in adult was going down, and how Playboy had to run to aebn in order for them to stay afloat, and aebn was going to be the last company standing in adult. lol Was funny to hear all the bs come out of her mouth. I won't drag in all the other people she told me about were losers. Some of them are in this thread even, and on the wrong side of things.

                                        She also told me she was working for aebn at one point. Aebn was dixie working for you? Ok I REALLY have to get some food and work. Flame away.

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                                        • Hank_Heartland
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Sep 2002
                                          • 3987

                                          #1020
                                          Originally posted by JFK
                                          Hey Hank
                                          Hey JFK...we need Tarantino or Scorsese to make a move of this shit
                                          Icq = 459565429 AIM = butlerhankb http://stripperpins.com
                                          Twitter = @stripperpins Facebook = Stripperpins.com
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                                          • sarettah
                                            see you later, I'm gone
                                            • Oct 2002
                                            • 14293

                                            #1021
                                            Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                            The source was Dixie telling me that everytime she called me, and how everyone in adult was going down, and how Playboy had to run to aebn in order for them to stay afloat, and aebn was going to be the last company standing in adult. lol Was funny to hear all the bs come out of her mouth. I won't drag in all the other people she told me about were losers. Some of them are in this thread even, and on the wrong side of things.
                                            I suppose you didn't want to divulge that confidence either?


                                            Dirty Rotten Gonzo, making Dixie say things that force you to do things that you just don't want to do.

                                            You should probably call the cops on him. Oh, that's right, you already did that one.
                                            All cookies cleared!

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                                            • JFK
                                              FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                              • Jan 2002
                                              • 67373

                                              #1022
                                              Originally posted by Hank_Heartland
                                              Hey JFK...we need Tarantino or Scorsese to make a move of this shit
                                              Rob Zombie, it's a Horror genre

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                                              • BusterBunny
                                                perverted justice decoy
                                                • Aug 2005
                                                • 19291

                                                #1023
                                                Originally posted by JFK
                                                Rob Zombie, it's a Horror genre
                                                seeming more like a kevin smith/jay and silent bob flick with a hint of chasing amy to me
                                                my sig caught gonoherpasyphilaids and died

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                                                • sarettah
                                                  see you later, I'm gone
                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                  • 14293

                                                  #1024
                                                  I just found a video of Stinky and Dixie. He's right, he did make her

                                                  All cookies cleared!

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                                                  • Hank_Heartland
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                    • 3987

                                                    #1025
                                                    Originally posted by JFK
                                                    Rob Zombie, it's a Horror genre
                                                    To bad Peckinpah is gone...he could work with this
                                                    Icq = 459565429 AIM = butlerhankb http://stripperpins.com
                                                    Twitter = @stripperpins Facebook = Stripperpins.com
                                                    [email protected]

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                                                    • JFK
                                                      FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                      • 67373

                                                      #1026
                                                      Originally posted by BusterBunny
                                                      seeming more like a kevin smith/jay and silent bob flick with a hint of chasing amy to me
                                                      could be right on the chasing part

                                                      FUBAR Webmasters - The FUBAR Times - FUBAR Webmasters Mobile - FUBARTV.XXX
                                                      For promo opps contact jfk at fubarwebmasters dot com

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                                                      • Hank_Heartland
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                        • 3987

                                                        #1027
                                                        Originally posted by BusterBunny
                                                        seeming more like a kevin smith/jay and silent bob flick with a hint of chasing amy to me
                                                        I see this more going towards bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia
                                                        Icq = 459565429 AIM = butlerhankb http://stripperpins.com
                                                        Twitter = @stripperpins Facebook = Stripperpins.com
                                                        [email protected]

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                                                        • BusterBunny
                                                          perverted justice decoy
                                                          • Aug 2005
                                                          • 19291

                                                          #1028
                                                          Originally posted by Hank_Heartland
                                                          I see this more going towards bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia
                                                          holy crap that is pretty much spot on
                                                          my sig caught gonoherpasyphilaids and died

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                                                          • Forest
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Aug 2001
                                                            • 9135

                                                            #1029
                                                            Originally posted by Qbert
                                                            Just a point of clarification. The only person that has posted anything about Gonzo making her any promises was Sticky, so consider the source.
                                                            exactly

                                                            funny I get back from the beach and this thread is going strong

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                                                            • CDSmith
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • May 2001
                                                              • 51460

                                                              #1030
                                                              Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!

                                                              ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!!

                                                              Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket.
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                                                              • Forest
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Aug 2001
                                                                • 9135

                                                                #1031
                                                                Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                The source was Dixie telling me that everytime she called me, .
                                                                and ofcourse you always tell the truth so we should believe thats what she said

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                                                                • Forest
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                                  • 9135

                                                                  #1032
                                                                  btw

                                                                  whats the longest thread in gfy history?

                                                                  anyone know?

                                                                  we are on 21 pages here

                                                                  and to think i got in on page 2

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                                                                  • baddog
                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                                    • 107089

                                                                    #1033
                                                                    Originally posted by GonZo

                                                                    ummm,

                                                                    Originally posted by Forest
                                                                    who the fuck died and elected you hall monitor?
                                                                    Sounds like he is more in the know than you.

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                                                                    • Forest
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Aug 2001
                                                                      • 9135

                                                                      #1034
                                                                      Originally posted by baddog
                                                                      ummm,



                                                                      Sounds like he is more in the know than you.
                                                                      the post that the quote was from was how many pages ago?

                                                                      sorry but you will have to refresh my memory

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                                                                      • sortie
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Mar 2007
                                                                        • 7771

                                                                        #1035
                                                                        The mock-up was done and presented; the layout was sent to me for the
                                                                        player and the player as finished with only a couple of adjustments to follow.

                                                                        After not recieving the deposit thru paypal as promissed ICQ chat :


                                                                        econfirmpro ?(7/29/2008 4:48 PM):
                                                                        So what address did you send the deposit to because I didn't see that I recieved it.
                                                                        Ryan ?(7/29/2008 4:48 PM):
                                                                        ok Ill try to move some mula around and get you some sent tonight or tomorrow.
                                                                        I didnt send yet, Ill get some to you shortly.
                                                                        econfirmpro ?(7/29/2008 4:49 PM):
                                                                        ok
                                                                        Ryan ?(7/29/2008 4:49 PM):
                                                                        you have epass too btw?
                                                                        econfirmpro ?(7/29/2008 4:49 PM):
                                                                        yes,
                                                                        econfirmpro ?(7/29/2008 4:49 PM):
                                                                        hulupu
                                                                        Ryan ?(7/29/2008 4:49 PM):
                                                                        gimme that too, cause I lost my visa card for it, so should have at least one
                                                                        sponsor payment coming into that tonight or tomorrow morning.
                                                                        Ryan ?(7/29/2008 4:49 PM):
                                                                        ya kk cool
                                                                        econfirmpro ?(7/29/2008 4:50 PM):
                                                                        epass is "hulupu"
                                                                        Ryan ?(7/29/2008 4:50 PM):
                                                                        gotcha.

                                                                        ...

                                                                        econfirmpro ?(8/5/2008 5:28 PM):
                                                                        Well anyway, I could make it do that but I'm not going to spend anymore time with it.
                                                                        You obviously are not interested in it enough to make the deposit so
                                                                        I don't think it's going to sell.
                                                                        econfirmpro ?(8/5/2008 5:28 PM):
                                                                        You did order this don't you remember.
                                                                        econfirmpro ?(8/5/2008 5:28 PM):
                                                                        That ccbill stuff came in after the fact.
                                                                        Ryan ?(8/5/2008 5:28 PM):
                                                                        yes, just having some money issues last few weeks.
                                                                        Ryan ?(8/5/2008 5:29 PM):
                                                                        wasn't expected. Just hold off working on it, and Ill get 300.00 to you in the next week
                                                                        or so and we'll go from there.
                                                                        econfirmpro ?(8/5/2008 5:31 PM):
                                                                        OK, just let me know because the player works and I put in a lot of extra code to
                                                                        make admin scripts, save favorites etc... that I didn't plan on doing.
                                                                        So it would be tough to find a better player ade just for you.
                                                                        econfirmpro ?(8/5/2008 5:31 PM):
                                                                        I took a lot of time working on the fullscreen mode.
                                                                        look at the player for my script and see how much better yours is.
                                                                        Ryan ?(8/5/2008 5:32 PM):
                                                                        ya no doubt, just has to work with cdn and be able to scrub through the vid.
                                                                        Ill pay you extra for your time no worries,
                                                                        just trying to catch up on a bunch of stuff right now.
                                                                        Our program started on a very lean budget lol.
                                                                        Just starting to recover from our initial expenditures.
                                                                        Ryan ?(8/5/2008 5:33 PM):
                                                                        after this week should be caught up and then Ill have some incentive for you to finish the player
                                                                        econfirmpro ?(8/5/2008 5:33 PM):
                                                                        cool.









                                                                        econfirmpro ?(8/5/2008 5:33 PM):
                                                                        Man I wanted to make this player good once I got into it so I looked at everything
                                                                        I could improve from the regular player.
                                                                        Ryan ?(8/5/2008 5:34 PM):
                                                                        Well seriously if we can get it 100% you will make much more than 300.00 off it
                                                                        econfirmpro ?(8/5/2008 5:34 PM):
                                                                        Making the player bar fade on full screen was NUTS!!! But, I knew you needed
                                                                        something with that style.
                                                                        Ryan ?(8/5/2008 5:35 PM):
                                                                        ya. We'll get it worked out. Take a break from it till I get you paid,
                                                                        then we'll go from there. Its just a delay on my part, and sorry for that.
                                                                        econfirmpro ?(8/5/2008 5:35 PM):
                                                                        No prob.




                                                                        ...





                                                                        econfirmpro ?(8/18/2008 1:08 PM):
                                                                        Any decision on using the flash player?
                                                                        Ryan ?(8/18/2008 1:19 PM):
                                                                        ya def want to use it. Just still trying to get out of my money slump lol.
                                                                        Can't do shit for biz right now to make extra mula.
                                                                        econfirmpro ?(8/18/2008 1:52 PM):
                                                                        Ok, but what about cavecreek? Do you have to buy the player first before they can make a deal?
                                                                        Ryan ?(8/18/2008 1:53 PM):
                                                                        It will have to work with rtmp and rtmpe then I can pitch it to them.
                                                                        econfirmpro ?(8/18/2008 1:53 PM):
                                                                        it does work with them and it also scrubs thru the video like the ther players
                                                                        Ryan ?(8/18/2008 1:53 PM):
                                                                        oh you got that to work?
                                                                        econfirmpro ?(8/18/2008 1:53 PM):
                                                                        yes
                                                                        Ryan ?(8/18/2008 1:53 PM):
                                                                        ahh ok for sure I can pitch it then.





                                                                        ...


                                                                        econfirmpro ?(8/18/2008 1:55 PM):
                                                                        But basically, I can make the player do anything that is possible, the thing is who is
                                                                        finally going to get this and what do they want it to do and can they back up the work with money.
                                                                        Ryan ?(8/18/2008 1:56 PM):
                                                                        well I dont think cavecreek will have the mula issues I am hehe.



                                                                        ......

                                                                        econfirmpro ?(8/18/2008 3:01 PM):
                                                                        So how is cravecreek planning on doing this? Charging customers to lease it etc...?
                                                                        Ryan ?(8/18/2008 3:02 PM):
                                                                        right I believe so or they do like dreamhost and some other hosts do,
                                                                        pay a flat license fee to you to cover all their clients.
                                                                        Ryan ?(8/18/2008 3:02 PM):
                                                                        something to be worked out soon now that its ready.
                                                                        econfirmpro ?(8/18/2008 3:03 PM):
                                                                        Ok, tell them it will be finished to their specs when they decide it's
                                                                        what they want and set up a deal to go ahead.
                                                                        Ryan ?(8/18/2008 3:04 PM):
                                                                        ya going to show it to them soon as I can reach Bryan. He was EXTREMELY interested
                                                                        in it after I showed him the early demo.
                                                                        econfirmpro ?(8/18/2008 3:05 PM):
                                                                        ok, when you talk to him let me know.





                                                                        ....

                                                                        econfirmpro ?(8/22/2008 2:18 PM):
                                                                        This thing is just sitting here and if I can get someone to buy it then I should try it.
                                                                        Ryan ?(8/22/2008 2:18 PM):
                                                                        brian is supposed to be showing it to the uppity ups.
                                                                        Ryan ?(8/22/2008 2:18 PM):
                                                                        Oh for sure I agree too.
                                                                        Ryan ?(8/22/2008 2:18 PM):
                                                                        I just used videos from members area to populate it real fast with high quality stuff
                                                                        so I could show cavecreek is all.
                                                                        econfirmpro ?(8/22/2008 2:19 PM):
                                                                        What is Brains position over at cave creek?
                                                                        Ryan ?(8/22/2008 2:20 PM):
                                                                        in charge of cdn, but I am buddies with Mark that is a VP at ccbill and cavecreek.
                                                                        Ryan ?(8/22/2008 2:20 PM):
                                                                        Brian loves it btw.
                                                                        econfirmpro ?(8/22/2008 2:21 PM):
                                                                        I'd like to know what he is thinking.
                                                                        Ryan ?(8/22/2008 2:21 PM):
                                                                        ya I should have some feedback today.
                                                                        econfirmpro ?(8/22/2008 2:22 PM):
                                                                        how are you pitching this to them?
                                                                        Ryan ?(8/22/2008 2:22 PM):
                                                                        demo speaks for itself. This to them would be a great tool to get customers sign up with more ease.
                                                                        econfirmpro ?(8/22/2008 2:24 PM):
                                                                        So cave creek would pay one fee for all it's websites or how?
                                                                        Ryan ?(8/22/2008 2:24 PM):
                                                                        Probably a monthly license fee I would guess. Something to work out and discuss for sure.
                                                                        econfirmpro ?(8/22/2008 2:25 PM):
                                                                        I thought you had some figures in mind.
                                                                        Ryan ?(8/22/2008 2:25 PM):
                                                                        well in my head I was thinking 200 to 300 to buy the rights straight out. Like if you were just selling to joe blow off gfy to use on their sites.
                                                                        Ryan ?(8/22/2008 2:26 PM):
                                                                        Keep the price reasonable I think.
                                                                        econfirmpro ?(8/22/2008 2:26 PM):
                                                                        So ccbill will sell this to each site?
                                                                        Ryan ?(8/22/2008 2:28 PM):
                                                                        Well either that way they could do it, and do a monthly rental per customer type thing, or outright. Or they just include it right in the price of the cdn, and just pay a license fee to you so they can offer it as an extra. So like a bulk rate license type thing.
                                                                        econfirmpro ?(8/22/2008 2:30 PM):
                                                                        Well, you are doing all the talking to the guy so I would say you need to have some figures there for them. Obviously if they offer me a nickle for the whoe thing it'll all blow up into nothing.
                                                                        Ryan ?(8/22/2008 2:30 PM):
                                                                        well obviously hehe
                                                                        Ryan ?(8/22/2008 2:30 PM):
                                                                        no it will be a fair thing. Its cavecreek that owns ccbill, so obviously the money is there.
                                                                        econfirmpro ?(8/22/2008 2:32 PM):
                                                                        Keep this in mind. If they offer me some decent upfront money then I can expand the player to offer more choices.
                                                                        Ryan ?(8/22/2008 2:32 PM):
                                                                        right, and of course I will work towards that.
                                                                        econfirmpro ?(8/22/2008 2:34 PM):
                                                                        I have to limit my efforts to paying jobs or I will find myself with 50 ongoing projects all planning to pay me someday in the future while
                                                                        econfirmpro ?(8/22/2008 2:34 PM):
                                                                        I starve to death today.
                                                                        Ryan ?(8/22/2008 2:34 PM):
                                                                        I understand totally.
                                                                        econfirmpro ?(8/22/2008 2:35 PM):
                                                                        If I'm not on icq you can use this email : tube at econfirmpro dot com
                                                                        Ryan ?(8/22/2008 2:35 PM):
                                                                        ok good stuff.
                                                                        econfirmpro ?(8/22/2008 2:36 PM):
                                                                        So, when ever you et some feedback let me know.
                                                                        Ryan ?(8/22/2008 2:36 PM):
                                                                        Hopefully will be today. He is offline for lunch atm, but I have an icq into him.
                                                                        econfirmpro ?(8/22/2008 2:36 PM):
                                                                        ok



                                                                        ...

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                                                                        • sortie
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Mar 2007
                                                                          • 7771

                                                                          #1036
                                                                          Ryan ?(8/27/2008 12:36 PM):
                                                                          Ok so how much would it take you to get an install package together with instructions.
                                                                          Ill start pushing it to sell if you can get it ready.
                                                                          Cavecreek is on a spending freeze due to low sales right now,
                                                                          but they will push it to new clients for us. Its almost there may as well try to
                                                                          make some money off it. Can bundle it with a consultation from me to help people
                                                                          get setup with h264 and cdn.
                                                                          Ryan ?(8/27/2008 12:36 PM):
                                                                          I just can't make shit for money the last 3 weeks. Barely making enough to cover
                                                                          my bills at home. No body is buying what I am selling lately lol.
                                                                          Ryan ?(8/27/2008 12:37 PM):
                                                                          So lets see if we can make some money on this deal and that way I can throw you
                                                                          whatever I make on it till we are square for your initial coding time.
                                                                          Then tweak things as we get user input.
                                                                          econfirmpro ?(8/27/2008 12:38 PM):
                                                                          hey, got someone on the other line; but I'm here
                                                                          Ryan ?(8/27/2008 12:38 PM):
                                                                          ok no worries Ill be here, when you get free lets see what we can figure out.
                                                                          econfirmpro ?(8/27/2008 2:19 PM):
                                                                          I don't really know what to tell you.
                                                                          econfirmpro ?(8/27/2008 2:20 PM):
                                                                          I've got about 5 or 6 days to come up with $500 or I'm in big trouble.
                                                                          Ryan ?(8/27/2008 2:20 PM):
                                                                          Im in the same spot, couldn't hurt to try to sell it. 2 sales would get you real
                                                                          close if not meet that.
                                                                          econfirmpro ?(8/27/2008 2:20 PM):
                                                                          Doesn't look like this is going to happen so working on the player would be
                                                                          like playing the fiddle while Rome burned to the ground
                                                                          Ryan ?(8/27/2008 2:21 PM):
                                                                          Well if you have something else in the works to help you make cash do that for sure.
                                                                          Ryan ?(8/27/2008 2:22 PM):
                                                                          If I had the money right now Id send it right over. Ive got about 17 bucks total atm lmao.
                                                                          Is it just me or is everyone slow as shit lately? People stopped buying shit on gfy
                                                                          the last month or so.
                                                                          econfirmpro ?(8/27/2008 2:22 PM):
                                                                          Do you have a interested buyer?
                                                                          Ryan ?(8/27/2008 2:23 PM):
                                                                          Let me do this. Ill work on a presentation post. This player can be used with or without cdn,
                                                                          and works with normal flash, so I think there will be buyers np. None of the cms's I've
                                                                          seen yet support flash vids even without buying a plugin or something.
                                                                          econfirmpro ?(8/27/2008 2:24 PM):
                                                                          I don't think I'm ready to do that.
                                                                          Ryan ?(8/27/2008 2:24 PM):
                                                                          Would it be something they could install themselves at this point, or still needs a
                                                                          lot of work before going public?
                                                                          econfirmpro ?(8/27/2008 2:24 PM):
                                                                          See when you go up like that I will have to be available to the interested partiesand
                                                                          such and there is no more time for that.
                                                                          Ryan ?(8/27/2008 2:25 PM):
                                                                          Ya I understand. Well if worst comes to worst. Ill be sitting down with Mark aka Corvette
                                                                          this month in Atlanta to talk about it.
                                                                          Ryan ?(8/27/2008 2:26 PM):
                                                                          If I can Im going to get whatever money I can to you in the next week or so also.
                                                                          Ryan ?(8/27/2008 2:26 PM):
                                                                          Normally it wouldn't have even been a problem. I could always stir up
                                                                          like 150 to 250 a day np if I pushed, but this last month can't do shit.
                                                                          econfirmpro ?(8/27/2008 2:27 PM):
                                                                          ok. no prob



                                                                          ....

                                                                          Ryan ?(9/2/2008 6:40 PM):
                                                                          Got someone interested in the player, hit me up when you are around.



                                                                          ....

                                                                          Read post that led to following chat :

                                                                          http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=855712

                                                                          Ryan ?(9/17/2008 5:47 PM):
                                                                          Dude you know that mula is coming, and you'll get paid extra for waiting right?
                                                                          We'll be fine within a week now. Just got caught up like today finally,
                                                                          have atlanta forum trip, then when we come back Ill get you paid plus some,
                                                                          and get that script sold. I probably have at least one copy sold already besides mine.
                                                                          You need to trust me on this. Im talking to Ron Caldwell the owner of cave creek and ccbill
                                                                          this week about it too.
                                                                          Ryan ?(9/17/2008 5:48 PM):
                                                                          I seriously expected you to take months to do this, cause programmers are always slow as hell. lol

                                                                          ....

                                                                          He sent a deposit that day. (9/17/2008):


                                                                          ......




                                                                          Ryan ?(10/20/2008 6:47 PM):
                                                                          Hey have mula for you hit me up when you are around.
                                                                          econfirmpro ?(10/22/2008 4:48 PM):
                                                                          OK.
                                                                          Ryan ?(10/22/2008 6:48 PM):
                                                                          let me see what I have in Epass right now.
                                                                          econfirmpro ?(10/22/2008 6:49 PM):
                                                                          ok
                                                                          Ryan ?(10/22/2008 6:50 PM):
                                                                          So I have 145.00 in there I can send you. 5.00 short of total 300.00 but I can get you more in a day or two, have to make a bank deposit.
                                                                          econfirmpro ?(10/22/2008 6:51 PM):
                                                                          Cool.


                                                                          ....


                                                                          Ryan ?(12/18/2008 9:31 PM):
                                                                          Hey its Sticky hit me up when you are around. Need to talk about the player,
                                                                          and all the people I have wanting to buy it now lol
                                                                          econfirmpro ?(12/27/2008 1:33 AM):
                                                                          Yo, sorry about the delay. I never check icq.
                                                                          econfirmpro ?(12/27/2008 1:33 AM):
                                                                          Sedn me a email to make sure.
                                                                          Ryan ?(12/27/2008 1:33 AM):
                                                                          ahh lol kk hit me up tomorrow bout to walk out the door. Ill try to email ya
                                                                          tonight when I get back too
                                                                          econfirmpro ?(12/27/2008 1:34 AM):
                                                                          ok


                                                                          ....


                                                                          Ryan ?(4/16/2009 8:09 PM):
                                                                          Hey going to try to launch the streamingsecure.com site next week.
                                                                          Going to do a mock up of a default player to use on the site.
                                                                          Had some interest in it by a lot of people. So just want to make
                                                                          sure you'll be around to do the custom players and other stuff,
                                                                          and charging for installs too, so you'll get that mula also.
                                                                          Hit me up when you get time, Ill be out tonight though.
                                                                          econfirmpro ?(4/16/2009 8:12 PM):
                                                                          Sticky,
                                                                          Ryan ?(4/16/2009 8:12 PM):
                                                                          thats me lol
                                                                          econfirmpro ?(4/16/2009 8:12 PM):
                                                                          I'm working on several other things now.
                                                                          Ryan ?(4/16/2009 8:12 PM):
                                                                          Well won't be anything super soon.
                                                                          econfirmpro ?(4/16/2009 8:12 PM):
                                                                          I can't really afford to do any "experimental stuff".
                                                                          Ryan ?(4/16/2009 8:13 PM):
                                                                          It wouldn't be experimental, would be 300.00 per player sold, plus install.
                                                                          econfirmpro ?(4/16/2009 8:13 PM):
                                                                          If people have money in the pocket and send a payment then they ill ge whatever they need.
                                                                          But without money up front I can't touch anything right now.
                                                                          Ryan ?(4/16/2009 8:14 PM):
                                                                          Basically need a default player skin. Ya this will be all money up front stuff anyways



                                                                          ..... END



                                                                          No money "up front" has been paid.

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                                                                          • kush
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Feb 2001
                                                                            • 3382

                                                                            #1037
                                                                            Fuck!

                                                                            I left Friday for a short vacation to the beach and I come back now and this thread is still going on and getting nastier!

                                                                            Just to answer a couple questions that asked me...

                                                                            Sly, I'm doing great. I'm happy to see that you appear to be doing well too. Keep on truckin Brotha ;)

                                                                            Gonzo, I think you were talking about Ulfie as being TuffRuff's golfing partner that ran into those money problems.

                                                                            Stickyfingerz, I don't know you personally nor did I ever do business with you, but as a piece of business advice, stop your bragging about your new domain and it's surge of traffic. If I wasn't busy with my own projects I would backtrack and find out exactly what you were doing and look to cash in on it myself. You're asking for trouble and since it sounds like this is your current biggest potential for making money, I would STFU before other people catch on (if they haven't already). Take care of your kids and move on. The sooner the better.

                                                                            I'm taking my own advice and am leaving this thread (and hopefully GFY for awhile too if I'm able to resist, lol!). Good luck to all!

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                                                                            • stickyfingerz
                                                                              Doin fine
                                                                              • Oct 2005
                                                                              • 24984

                                                                              #1038
                                                                              Yup and again I NEVER told you to start on it, and you should not of started on it till I sent you the deposit. I didn't ask you to start on it. I sent you a layout of what I wanted it to look like, and the specs I needed it to have. I never said here get this done.

                                                                              Sortie did you or did you not get paid 370.00 prior to me receiving the software? And if you recall you could not get it to work with rtmp as you posted above. So it was utterly useless for my needs until you could do that. You STILL never added in titles and descriptions like I requested, and I STILL paid you 70.00 more than what you quoted me as clearly stated above. Then you were all for the 50/50 split on sales. That was your idea, I originally said Id only take 10% as I wanted to get the player out there to help slow the leakage of videos from members areas. YOU were the one that changed that to 50% later on, and that is when I started building interest in the player and was ready to do a press release tomorrow. I emailed you the day before you started all this bullshit asking you to help me just get a demo running on the new domain so I could start selling it. You flipped out and accused me of selling it without your permission and me ripping you off even though we had a long standing agreement that we would sell the player.

                                                                              You are a moron, and will continue to be. I kept your name out of everything when I talked about the player on the boards due to your last debacle where you pissed a bunch of people off and I was very hesitant even getting ready to launch this because I saw how flakey you were with some others you did work for. I don't want anything to do with you. Ill have the whole project redone from scratch and pay someone competent and not insane to redo it. Idiot.

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                                                                              • stickyfingerz
                                                                                Doin fine
                                                                                • Oct 2005
                                                                                • 24984

                                                                                #1039
                                                                                Originally posted by kush
                                                                                Fuck!

                                                                                I left Friday for a short vacation to the beach and I come back now and this thread is still going on and getting nastier!

                                                                                Just to answer a couple questions that asked me...

                                                                                Sly, I'm doing great. I'm happy to see that you appear to be doing well too. Keep on truckin Brotha ;)

                                                                                Gonzo, I think you were talking about Ulfie as being TuffRuff's golfing partner that ran into those money problems.

                                                                                Stickyfingerz, I don't know you personally nor did I ever do business with you, but as a piece of business advice, stop your bragging about your new domain and it's surge of traffic. If I wasn't busy with my own projects I would backtrack and find out exactly what you were doing and look to cash in on it myself. You're asking for trouble and since it sounds like this is your current biggest potential for making money, I would STFU before other people catch on (if they haven't already). Take care of your kids and move on. The sooner the better.

                                                                                I'm taking my own advice and am leaving this thread (and hopefully GFY for awhile too if I'm able to resist, lol!). Good luck to all!
                                                                                Lol that site is just a side project and do what you think you can to steal the traffic lol. I have a very steady offline deal going on that is making me all the cash I need, but I appreciate the advice. I again DID NOT BRING THIS SHIT TO THE BOARD! Did you all not see tons of people saying "he isn't responding that just screams guilt" and I was supposed to just leave it be. Silliness... lol

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                                                                                • Forest
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                                                  • 9135

                                                                                  #1040
                                                                                  Originally posted by kush
                                                                                  Gonzo, I think you were talking about Ulfie as being TuffRuff's golfing partner that ran into those money problems.

                                                                                  Stickyfingerz, I don't know you personally nor did I ever do business with you, but as a piece of business advice, stop your bragging about your new domain and it's surge of traffic. If I wasn't busy with my own projects I would backtrack and find out exactly what you were doing and look to cash in on it myself. You're asking for trouble and since it sounds like this is your current biggest potential for making money, I would STFU before other people catch on (if they haven't already). Take care of your kids and move on. The sooner the better.

                                                                                  I'm taking my own advice and am leaving this thread (and hopefully GFY for awhile too if I'm able to resist, lol!). Good luck to all!
                                                                                  Wow Ulfie

                                                                                  there is a name I havent heard in a long time

                                                                                  and as far as sticky having a money making idea,

                                                                                  That will be the day

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                                                                                  • Forest
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Aug 2001
                                                                                    • 9135

                                                                                    #1041
                                                                                    Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                                    Yup and again I NEVER told you to start on it, and you should not of started on it till I sent you the deposit. I didn't ask you to start on it. I sent you a layout of what I wanted it to look like, and the specs I needed it to have. I never said here get this done.

                                                                                    Sortie did you or did you not get paid 370.00 prior to me receiving the software? And if you recall you could not get it to work with rtmp as you posted above. So it was utterly useless for my needs until you could do that. You STILL never added in titles and descriptions like I requested, and I STILL paid you 70.00 more than what you quoted me as clearly stated above. Then you were all for the 50/50 split on sales. That was your idea, I originally said Id only take 10% as I wanted to get the player out there to help slow the leakage of videos from members areas. YOU were the one that changed that to 50% later on, and that is when I started building interest in the player and was ready to do a press release tomorrow. I emailed you the day before you started all this bullshit asking you to help me just get a demo running on the new domain so I could start selling it. You flipped out and accused me of selling it without your permission and me ripping you off even though we had a long standing agreement that we would sell the player.

                                                                                    You are a moron, and will continue to be. I kept your name out of everything when I talked about the player on the boards due to your last debacle where you pissed a bunch of people off and I was very hesitant even getting ready to launch this because I saw how flakey you were with some others you did work for. I don't want anything to do with you. Ill have the whole project redone from scratch and pay someone competent and not insane to redo it. Idiot.
                                                                                    surprise surprise

                                                                                    ryans the innocent victim again

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                                                                                    • baddog
                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                                      • 107089

                                                                                      #1042
                                                                                      Originally posted by Forest
                                                                                      the post that the quote was from was how many pages ago?

                                                                                      sorry but you will have to refresh my memory

                                                                                      http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...&postcount=259

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                                                                                      • Forest
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Aug 2001
                                                                                        • 9135

                                                                                        #1043
                                                                                        Im off to a holiday BBQ

                                                                                        what are the odds this thread will still be on the first page tomorrow morning

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                                                                                        • sortie
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Mar 2007
                                                                                          • 7771

                                                                                          #1044
                                                                                          Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                                          Yup and again I NEVER told you to start on it, and you should not of started on it till I sent you the deposit. I didn't ask you to start on it. I sent you a layout of what I wanted it to look like, and the specs I needed it to have. I never said here get this done.

                                                                                          Sortie did you or did you not get paid 370.00 prior to me receiving the software? And if you recall you could not get it to work with rtmp as you posted above. So it was utterly useless for my needs until you could do that. You STILL never added in titles and descriptions like I requested, and I STILL paid you 70.00 more than what you quoted me as clearly stated above. Then you were all for the 50/50 split on sales. That was your idea, I originally said Id only take 10% as I wanted to get the player out there to help slow the leakage of videos from members areas. YOU were the one that changed that to 50% later on, and that is when I started building interest in the player and was ready to do a press release tomorrow. I emailed you the day before you started all this bullshit asking you to help me just get a demo running on the new domain so I could start selling it. You flipped out and accused me of selling it without your permission and me ripping you off even though we had a long standing agreement that we would sell the player.

                                                                                          You are a moron, and will continue to be. I kept your name out of everything when I talked about the player on the boards due to your last debacle where you pissed a bunch of people off and I was very hesitant even getting ready to launch this because I saw how flakey you were with some others you did work for. I don't want anything to do with you. Ill have the whole project redone from scratch and pay someone competent and not insane to redo it. Idiot.




                                                                                          You've got to be the biggest fucking idiot in the world to send a programmer a layout
                                                                                          and tell them what you want done and ask them to do a mock up and then when
                                                                                          it's all done you say you didn't ask them to work on it yet.






                                                                                          And this "Feature Creep" SHIT!!!!!


                                                                                          Feature Creep : After the programmer has quote a price and started the client
                                                                                          then begins to add on features that double the orginal amount of work and the client
                                                                                          expects all that to be included for the original price.

                                                                                          Mother fucker.....I agreed to do a simple FLV that put the IP and user name on the video :

                                                                                          You then sent a mock up for the player to show thumbs, pagination, save favorites,
                                                                                          etc...fucking etc.....

                                                                                          I did it all, but I should have done none of it.

                                                                                          I then made two more custom players for you to use on the other domains
                                                                                          nerdynora.com and daisymarie18.com.

                                                                                          You didn't pay for those now did you? But some how this $1200 player times 3 only
                                                                                          get's $375 from you and you think you paid me so much over like 10 months.

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                                                                                          • Forest
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Aug 2001
                                                                                            • 9135

                                                                                            #1045
                                                                                            if you noticed that is another one of stickys ex partners who things didnt work out with sticky for the best

                                                                                            and I agree with him. There is some unfinished biz between the 2 of them

                                                                                            my original post to him was after he came in to the thread and tried to tell everyone what to do

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                                                                                            • mikesouth
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                                              • 6334

                                                                                              #1046
                                                                                              Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                                              The one shot by Avn award winner Mike South? Nothing against Mike, I just found it funny how she was touting his accolades.

                                                                                              Funny how she told me less than 2 months ago she only wanted to do softcore now. Good job Gonzo!!! Take her to a bukkake party. Hope Mike sells that content Ill throw it up on DixieDashDoesBukkake.com

                                                                                              Dont hold your breath, my content is all exclusive.
                                                                                              Mike South

                                                                                              It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

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                                                                                              • mikesouth
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Jun 2003
                                                                                                • 6334

                                                                                                #1047
                                                                                                I would like to point out a few things about my experience with Erica

                                                                                                She was On Time

                                                                                                She was dressed appropriately

                                                                                                She brought everything I suggested

                                                                                                She was easy to work with

                                                                                                She wasn't fucked up on anything

                                                                                                The guys loved her attitude and so did I

                                                                                                I look forward to working with her more...Good job Erica
                                                                                                Mike South

                                                                                                It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

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                                                                                                • stickyfingerz
                                                                                                  Doin fine
                                                                                                  • Oct 2005
                                                                                                  • 24984

                                                                                                  #1048
                                                                                                  Originally posted by sortie



                                                                                                  You've got to be the biggest fucking idiot in the world to send a programmer a layout
                                                                                                  and tell them what you want done and ask them to do a mock up and then when
                                                                                                  it's all done you say you didn't ask them to work on it yet.






                                                                                                  And this "Feature Creep" SHIT!!!!!


                                                                                                  Feature Creep : After the programmer has quote a price and started the client
                                                                                                  then begins to add on features that double the orginal amount of work and the client
                                                                                                  expects all that to be included for the original price.

                                                                                                  Mother fucker.....I agreed to do a simple FLV that put the IP and user name on the video :

                                                                                                  You then sent a mock up for the player to show thumbs, pagination, save favorites,
                                                                                                  etc...fucking etc.....

                                                                                                  I did it all, but I should have done none of it.

                                                                                                  I then made two more custom players for you to use on the other domains
                                                                                                  nerdynora.com and daisymarie18.com.

                                                                                                  You didn't pay for those now did you? But some how this $1200 player times 3 only
                                                                                                  get's $375 from you and you think you paid me so much over like 10 months.
                                                                                                  You changed the colors and it took you like 20 mins to do, how is that building two separate players exactly? The titles and descriptions to on a player like that was asked for from the beginning. Why would I want that with no way to add a title or description? Anyways fuck off. Don't need you anymore. Should of never got involved after your first bullshit you started about me.

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                                                                                                  • stickyfingerz
                                                                                                    Doin fine
                                                                                                    • Oct 2005
                                                                                                    • 24984

                                                                                                    #1049
                                                                                                    Originally posted by mikesouth
                                                                                                    I would like to point out a few things about my experience with Erica

                                                                                                    She was On Time

                                                                                                    She was dressed appropriately

                                                                                                    She brought everything I suggested

                                                                                                    She was easy to work with

                                                                                                    She wasn't fucked up on anything

                                                                                                    The guys loved her attitude and so did I

                                                                                                    I look forward to working with her more...Good job Erica
                                                                                                    More power to you Mike its not your fault in anyway. Is it the best route for her? Time will tell. Have at it.

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                                                                                                    • CrkMStanz
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Jan 2008
                                                                                                      • 517

                                                                                                      #1050
                                                                                                      allright - this thread is now truely epic so I gotta get a post in

                                                                                                      I have no side in this, only one thing to say

                                                                                                      In any relationship (after breakup) there is always 3 sides to the story

                                                                                                      1. His
                                                                                                      2. Hers
                                                                                                      3. The Truth (which neither of the preceeding 2 FULLY express)

                                                                                                      all other opinions are irrelevant


                                                                                                      carry on (yes I read the WHOLE thing)
                                                                                                      Last edited by CrkMStanz; 05-25-2009, 11:50 AM.
                                                                                                      believe me - without free porn, just as many people will seek porn out on the Internet, and many more will pay if there is no free alternative, its not like sex is a fad - it can be milked much like any renewable resource - long term

                                                                                                      i wasn't born with enough middle fingers - Marilyn Manson

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