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Chimper · 12-28-2002, 11:22 AM

Looking for some feedback Good or Bad. I am thinking of signing up with them.

jennycards · 12-28-2002, 11:24 AM

- good system
- good people
- bad conversion

just my experience

JasonB · 12-28-2002, 11:24 AM

They're good & reliable, but the reseller stats are lacking.

Go with Epoch. You'll make more $$.

HeadPimp · 12-28-2002, 11:27 AM

You know it is funny that you are saying conversions are lower, 'cause I switched from CCbill and mine went up...

drops · 12-28-2002, 11:29 AM

Go with Epoch. You'll make more $$.

Yep..

Va2k · 12-28-2002, 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by Chimper
Looking for some feedback Good or Bad. I am thinking of signing up with them.

Dude let me let ya in on a little thing here, if you are a cheap bastard like me and cant affored the 750.00 to pay the anal raping ccbill go with ACPAY and use globill as a backup. I used globill as my primary they scrub and decline more then anyone else i have ever used, Their dailer, and phone signups are great but other then that acpay rocks dude,

My converting went up 80% when I switched to acpay they almost are better then ccbill. They are working on checking, and some dialers and when they are done with that I will prolly drop glo-bill shrugs just my

jennycards · 12-28-2002, 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by HeadPimp
You know it is funny that you are saying conversions are lower, 'cause I switched from CCbill and mine went up...

Maybe it's like everything in this industry: it depends very much on your traffic.
In fact I am running one of the few sites with 30+% female customers so the experience of other webmasters may be different.

Chimper · 12-28-2002, 11:42 AM

What is AC Pays lowest trial period allowed and cost($1.00-$100.00)

Shoplifter · 12-28-2002, 02:06 PM

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Originally posted by va2k

My converting went up 80% when I switched to acpay they almost are better then ccbill. They are working on checking, and some dialers and when they are done with that I will prolly drop glo-bill shrugs just my

So ACPay has less scrubbing than CCBill?

Pete · 12-28-2002, 02:12 PM

Not necessarily. But AC Pay allows Canadian Webmasters and CC Bill does NOT!

The Other Steve · 12-28-2002, 02:19 PM

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Originally posted by HeadPimp
You know it is funny that you are saying conversions are lower, 'cause I switched from CCbill and mine went up...

Same thing happened with us - plus the end of the month scrub isn't as noticeable

strainer · 12-28-2002, 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by Chimper
Looking for some feedback Good or Bad. I am thinking of signing up with them.

I have had a very good experience with them. A couple small technical problems, but nothing serious.

As far as I know I don't have any scrubbing issues with them. In a couple months I have only had a couple surfers email to complain they were declined, and with my niche content people usually email if they can't get in. I've actually had people with bad credit mail money orders.

Also, I don't see anything wrong with the affiliate program. I get hourly stats, click, signups, etc. - what else do I need?

Bear · 12-28-2002, 03:54 PM

One thing I don't really like is they email member when they get rebilled.

strainer · 12-28-2002, 04:01 PM

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Originally posted by Bear
One thing I don't really like is they email member when they get rebilled.

Yeah, they do. Although I think it is right *after* they rebill. Might sound fucked up, and I know I am brand new at this, but I actually don't want any members because they forgot to cancel. I think if I run this the way I run my regular business, i.e., respect the customer and not hope he has forgotten about the rebilling, in the long run it might gain even more customers.

kevinl · 12-28-2002, 10:37 PM

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Yeah, they do. Although I think it is right *after* they rebill.

Globill also does this and it will definitely fuck up retention

psyko514 · 12-28-2002, 10:52 PM

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Originally posted by Bear
One thing I don't really like is they email member when they get rebilled.

Oh no! We can't screw surfers into getting rebills they don't want!!
BASTARDS!!

directfiesta · 12-29-2002, 02:15 AM

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Originally posted by psyko514

Oh no! We can't screw surfers into getting rebills they don't want!!
BASTARDS!!

If you have a decent site ( 50 gigs + and updated twice weekly), members that had signed for a non-rebilling 3 month period will do this with globill:

2002-12-28 17:26:54 User Requested Membership Renewal

I had with globill only 2 chargebacks ( card really used fraudulently). With Ibill, they reimburse very easilely and get way more chargebacks.

psyko514 · 12-29-2002, 02:23 AM

directfiesta, i was being sarcastic. i use globill also and think it's great that they send out those emails.
i also think it's great that you can only rebill 31 days or less.

directfiesta · 12-29-2002, 02:39 AM

This is the email they send. I am a member of my own site ( costs me 15% to check and see WTF is going on!).

I think this should be with every processor. The time of " I fucked you surfer, because I do not have a cancel button or link" or other gimmicks to rebill is or should be over.

Email of rebilling confirmation from Globill:

Thank you for signing up for site: XXXXXX

-------------------------------------------------------------------
YOUR STATEMENT WILL SHOW: "GLOBILL.COM LLC"
-------------------------------------------------------------------

YOUR MEMBERSHIP HAS RENEWED

Username: xxxxxxxx
Password:
Date: 2002-12-25 10:22:31
Customer Number: 218xxx-xxxxxxx-xx
Price: $9.99
Name: John Do

If you choose not to cancel, your membership will rebill in 30.00 days.
Note you can cancel anytime and your membership will continue until it expires.

<><> Note that your username and password must be typed in lowercase letters when logging in. <><>

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
********** LOGIN PROBLEMS? **************
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you have a login problem, it may be a temporary tech problem. Please wait a few minutes and try again, and that usually works. You can also try logging in from www.globill.com/login.htm instead of the web site you joined, to see if that makes a difference.

Please make sure you type in your username and password all in lowercase letters.

Also note that some network security programs or firewalls such as Norton can sometimes interfere with logging in. Please try turning those off and see if it fixes the problem.

If you continue to have problems, please go to https://www.globill-signup.com/help/ and choose the payment type you signed up with to login. Then, once logged in, click on the "login problems" link next to your account information.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
********** Important! Please read GLOBILL.COM's FRAUD Policy: **************
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Most people are honest and so this may not apply to you: Please note that trying to deny that you made a charge (if you really did) is fraudulent and is illegal. When we receive such disputes, this is our Dispute Policy. Again, this applies only to persons who signed up and then pretend they did not.

1. IF YOU TRY TO DISPUTE or DENY a valid charge, your credit card or checking account along with your name and address will immediately be added to a negative database. The negative database is shared by thousands of merchants on the internet, both large and small, and you will not be able to purchase goods or services from said merchants in the future.

2. IF YOU TRY TO DISPUTE or DENY a VALID charge, you will be sent an invoice for the disputed amount by regular postal mail. A copy will also be sent to your bank and credit card company. The invoice will include the following information:

(a) The name of the site you paid to access
(b) Your IP address when you signed up,
(c) The day and time of your signup,
(d) Original charge amount owed plus a $25 fee for dispute processing .

3. If you do not pay the invoice within 30 days, a second invoice will be sent. The second invoice will include the following information:

(a) Access logs detailing when you accessed the site in question and what ISP you used to do so.
(b) Examples of any files and/or pictures and/or video captures of any information you downloaded from the site after gaining your username and password.

4. If the second invoice is not paid within 30 days, your file will be forwarded to one of the 17 collection agencies that we work with on all five continents.

To avoid any of the above, we encourage you to contact us first for any problems with your membership purchase. We have an excellent track record in resolving any problems to see that you are fully satisfied with your purchase.

If you have any concerns about your purchase we encourage you to contact one of our customer service reps either by phone at 1-877-588-1277 (925-691-6521), Monday-Friday, 9am to 5pm PST, or through our online forms available 24 hours a day at www.globill.com

We are always here to assist you with any complaints or problems you have with the website you joined.

************************************************** ********************

GLOBILL.COM is the billing company that "xxxxxx" is using for their membership management and billing services. For problems with your membership (logging in, rebilling, auto-rebill canceling etc., ) please contact GLOBILL by going to the user assistance area at:

http://www.globill.com/cgi-bin/user/help.cgi

or by calling us at 1-877-588-1277 (925-691-6521)

We are not responsible for billing related questions you send to the webmaster of the site and for which the webmaster never forwards to us, therefore you must use the above site for all billing and canceling related actions.

For problems or questions about the site itself, please contact the webmaster of the site directly. If the webmaster has a special email address for customer support, it is shown below:

Website's customer support: [email protected]

Thank you again for signing up. We hope you enjoy the web site.

==========================

Hey, not bad if you really give your member something. If you intend to fuck them, don't go with Globill.

schilli · 12-29-2002, 08:32 AM

I've been with Verotel since I started my first paysite back in April of this year. Last Monday I had 16 chargebacks -- all from one affiliate who has been suspended by Verotel. That affiliate was most likely useing stolen CC #'s to charge memberships to my site. Anyways - I've been looking into an alternate processor because I feels that Verotel does not scrub enough for CC purchases. Glo-bill seems to do a better job and I signed up last night - I'll be switching over in the next week.

12-28-2002, 11:22 AM	#1
Chimper Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ontario Posts: 155	Glo-bill Systems Looking for some feedback Good or Bad. I am thinking of signing up with them. __________________ Clicked Traffic $3.50/1k Adult Traffic Sales! ICQ 108574338

12-28-2002, 11:24 AM	#2
jennycards Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: European Union Posts: 1,124	- good system - good people - bad conversion just my experience __________________ Make Money with true niche programs like Adult ECards - Pantyhose Fetish - Men in Pantyhose

12-28-2002, 11:29 AM	#5
drops Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: So. Cal. Posts: 1,116	Go with Epoch. You'll make more $$. Yep.. __________________ <img src=http://porndollar.com/webmasters/banners/porndollar/120x60_25_pd.gif border=0><br>$84 Per Signup \| $25 Per Free Signup \| $20 Per Cross Sales \| Credits On Exits \| Paid Weekly <br>Contact Info. http://porndollar.com/support.html

12-28-2002, 11:42 AM	#8
Chimper Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ontario Posts: 155	What is AC Pays lowest trial period allowed and cost($1.00-$100.00) __________________ Clicked Traffic $3.50/1k Adult Traffic Sales! ICQ 108574338

12-28-2002, 02:12 PM	#10
Pete Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Mr. Rogers Neighborhood Posts: 6,617	Not necessarily. But AC Pay allows Canadian Webmasters and CC Bill does NOT! __________________ Evoke Electronics

12-28-2002, 11:24 AM	#3
JasonB Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,183	They're good & reliable, but the reseller stats are lacking. Go with Epoch. You'll make more $$.

12-28-2002, 11:27 AM	#4
HeadPimp Bad Mo-Fo Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 2,772	You know it is funny that you are saying conversions are lower, 'cause I switched from CCbill and mine went up...

12-28-2002, 03:54 PM	#13
Bear Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 261	One thing I don't really like is they email member when they get rebilled.

12-29-2002, 02:23 AM	#18
psyko514 See sig. Join Epic Cash. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec. ICQ: 214702014 Posts: 22,366	directfiesta, i was being sarcastic. i use globill also and think it's great that they send out those emails. i also think it's great that you can only rebill 31 days or less.

12-29-2002, 02:39 AM	#19
directfiesta Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Punta Cana, DR Posts: 29,601	This is the email they send. I am a member of my own site ( costs me 15% to check and see WTF is going on!). I think this should be with every processor. The time of " I fucked you surfer, because I do not have a cancel button or link" or other gimmicks to rebill is or should be over. Email of rebilling confirmation from Globill: Thank you for signing up for site: XXXXXX ------------------------------------------------------------------- YOUR STATEMENT WILL SHOW: "GLOBILL.COM LLC" ------------------------------------------------------------------- YOUR MEMBERSHIP HAS RENEWED Username: xxxxxxxx Password: Date: 2002-12-25 10:22:31 Customer Number: 218xxx-xxxxxxx-xx Price: $9.99 Name: John Do If you choose not to cancel, your membership will rebill in 30.00 days. Note you can cancel anytime and your membership will continue until it expires. <><> Note that your username and password must be typed in lowercase letters when logging in. <><> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ******** LOGIN PROBLEMS? ********** -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you have a login problem, it may be a temporary tech problem. Please wait a few minutes and try again, and that usually works. You can also try logging in from www.globill.com/login.htm instead of the web site you joined, to see if that makes a difference. Please make sure you type in your username and password all in lowercase letters. Also note that some network security programs or firewalls such as Norton can sometimes interfere with logging in. Please try turning those off and see if it fixes the problem. If you continue to have problems, please go to https://www.globill-signup.com/help/ and choose the payment type you signed up with to login. Then, once logged in, click on the "login problems" link next to your account information. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ****** Important! Please read GLOBILL.COM's FRAUD Policy: ********** -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Most people are honest and so this may not apply to you: Please note that trying to deny that you made a charge (if you really did) is fraudulent and is illegal. When we receive such disputes, this is our Dispute Policy. Again, this applies only to persons who signed up and then pretend they did not. 1. IF YOU TRY TO DISPUTE or DENY a valid charge, your credit card or checking account along with your name and address will immediately be added to a negative database. The negative database is shared by thousands of merchants on the internet, both large and small, and you will not be able to purchase goods or services from said merchants in the future. 2. IF YOU TRY TO DISPUTE or DENY a VALID charge, you will be sent an invoice for the disputed amount by regular postal mail. A copy will also be sent to your bank and credit card company. The invoice will include the following information: (a) The name of the site you paid to access (b) Your IP address when you signed up, (c) The day and time of your signup, (d) Original charge amount owed plus a $25 fee for dispute processing . 3. If you do not pay the invoice within 30 days, a second invoice will be sent. The second invoice will include the following information: (a) Access logs detailing when you accessed the site in question and what ISP you used to do so. (b) Examples of any files and/or pictures and/or video captures of any information you downloaded from the site after gaining your username and password. 4. If the second invoice is not paid within 30 days, your file will be forwarded to one of the 17 collection agencies that we work with on all five continents. To avoid any of the above, we encourage you to contact us first for any problems with your membership purchase. We have an excellent track record in resolving any problems to see that you are fully satisfied with your purchase. If you have any concerns about your purchase we encourage you to contact one of our customer service reps either by phone at 1-877-588-1277 (925-691-6521), Monday-Friday, 9am to 5pm PST, or through our online forms available 24 hours a day at www.globill.com We are always here to assist you with any complaints or problems you have with the website you joined. ********************************************** ****************** GLOBILL.COM is the billing company that "xxxxxx" is using for their membership management and billing services. For problems with your membership (logging in, rebilling, auto-rebill canceling etc., ) please contact GLOBILL by going to the user assistance area at: http://www.globill.com/cgi-bin/user/help.cgi or by calling us at 1-877-588-1277 (925-691-6521) We are not responsible for billing related questions you send to the webmaster of the site and for which the webmaster never forwards to us, therefore you must use the above site for all billing and canceling related actions. For problems or questions about the site itself, please contact the webmaster of the site directly. If the webmaster has a special email address for customer support, it is shown below: Website's customer support: [email protected] Thank you again for signing up. We hope you enjoy the web site. ========================== Hey, not bad if you really give your member something. If you intend to fuck them, don't go with Globill.

12-29-2002, 08:32 AM	#20
schilli Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 265	I've been with Verotel since I started my first paysite back in April of this year. Last Monday I had 16 chargebacks -- all from one affiliate who has been suspended by Verotel. That affiliate was most likely useing stolen CC #'s to charge memberships to my site. Anyways - I've been looking into an alternate processor because I feels that Verotel does not scrub enough for CC purchases. Glo-bill seems to do a better job and I signed up last night - I'll be switching over in the next week.