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Old 12-14-2008, 04:02 PM   #1
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Needed CSS, Tableless, Designer

Title says it all. Coder needs CSS without tables.

Recommend me a good one, and make sure they have a robust portfolio for me to see.

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Damnit, you're fast! Didn't even get a chance to plug you!
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You need to ask yourself why you want to go tableless, and really know what you're looking for. Anyone can code a tableless by over using div tags that having no semantic meaning. So before you start hiring people cause you want something "Tableless" know what you need specifically.
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You need to ask yourself why you want to go tableless, and really know what you're looking for. Anyone can code a tableless by over using div tags that having no semantic meaning. So before you start hiring people cause you want something "Tableless" know what you need specifically.
I know coder I have working on the project specified it. So that is a pretty solid reason to know why I am asking for it chief.

When one half of the project requires the second half be a certain way... probably a good idea to accommodate him eh toots?

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I know coder I have working on the project specified it. So that is a pretty solid reason to know why I am asking for it chief.

When one half of the project requires the second half be a certain way... probably a good idea to accommodate him eh toots?

There's a difference between doing a job to just do it and then doing it right. That's all I'm saying.
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You don't really need this defined do you? There's a post from yesterday on it and a whole lot of conversation about it.. there's a place for tables no doubt but not in layout anymore
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- Agreed. We have a sick portfolio of mainstream, as well as some more recent adult. But CSS only, your gonna pay for quality on that request.

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If your serious - hit me up.
That would be 5 x's the cost of the custom script.

Serious? Yes.

However, I will also have to shop around considering that $5000.00 price tag.
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You don't really need this defined do you? There's a post from yesterday on it and a whole lot of conversation about it.. there's a place for tables no doubt but not in layout anymore
Yeah, im gonna have to go ahead and disagree. tables or no tables - no offense to designers, as i have many in my staff ... a website design, regardless if its HTML, CSS, or Scratch and Sniff - is really only 1 thing. A pretty cover to a more often than not crappy book.

Agreed 95%+ designs in CSS are impressive, but only to geeks - the surfer could care less.

Innovation is key! - and CSS is not that with or without tables. At least not anymore, CSS isnt new.

But if the price is right, we can do just a design in CSS, HTML, FLASH, Whatever ... its the why? If your just slapping a cover on the same old shit, everyone has - why bother
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skrinladoo, well said.

We do tableless CSS designs for tube sites, is this sufficient level to enter this thread or not?
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We do tableless CSS designs for tube sites, is this sufficient level to enter this thread or not?
Well, I am still looking for a good, affordable, CSS designer. So if that is you, then popping in the thread is fine.
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two css designers i would recommend

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if your budget is a bit higher

http://neostyle.org/
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http://neostyle.org/
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Isn't twisted, machinegunkelly? I have used that nig before.
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Totsie,instead screwing around with designers you can make design with tables first and then convert it to css fully with one program.Works perfectly fine.Tehnicly designer is needed only to do header logo.
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Really? Impressive. I'll have to keep dat shit in mind.

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Really? Impressive. I'll have to keep dat shit in mind.

Thank ye fine sire.
Btw i would need to give you url of program to make this thing work
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Program cost 40$ but it is good to buy it if you have tons of sites which needed to be converted.
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Well, I am still looking for a good, affordable, CSS designer. So if that is you, then popping in the thread is fine.
I, my team - do allot of our own work, but take large mainstream clients mainly, large development projects - custom 2.0, custom CRM's, online tracking systems, on-the-fly video tagging for production modules, real viable products - things like that.

2 examples:

#1 - video player scheduling via time zones, where a single player works off internal admin created lists, allows for commercial inserts - and works very much like TV stations do, but for the web. (i am co-inventor, w/ legal, no BS patent pending - number allocated, for this one)

#2 - custom online studio, via java (can be used on cell phones as well) - sorta like apples garageband, or protools, etc. Multi layer track creation - before anyone thinks this is a good idea. We knew of server processor and memory issues with this upfront, bridging that gap without a grid, or extreme cluster ... not working out to be practical.

I am co-inventor for 2 technology patents pending, the above #2 (isnt one) - why bother.
I'm not telling you this brag, you dont know me. I'm trying to show you I'm not a complete ass clown when it comes to design/dev. I didnt just start playin with a computer last week. 10K+ for a patent done correctly from a specialized patent attorney that can fight for its validity, and defend it aggressively against copycats. YES, i can prove it.

We have been at it since 95-99 collectively amongst the team.

CSS is without question more difficult then just slice/dice design to html, with a CSS reference for use with div's.

I was trying to let you know, that really there isnt a great reason to spend the extra money - perhaps you'll disagree ... about 13-14 years of this (which would make the public beginning in many ways) - says why, why bother? Its not gonna bring any extra appeal or revenue (ouch!) - and it would be more expensive (it takes more time, less people can actually do it, its more difficult).

Designers - good designers, arnt typically code writers. CSS, HTML - while low-end would be code. Sr. Level Graphic Designers are appraised by their skills for principles and application of AI, Photoshop, and Flash (excluding complex actionscript).

Sum it up, can we do it - 100%, no question. Will we do it for pennies - as clearly "affordable" is subjective ... nope. I don't know you man, but I dont see the point in you wasting your money either. That's all.
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table2css is horrible, it doesnt do it correctly
Well maybe there is other programs which do that operation better.Or it can be still used for conversion and fix later code with css error detector(i think there is free program which does that)
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Old 01-01-2009, 11:57 AM   #45
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I know coder I have working on the project specified it. So that is a pretty solid reason to know why I am asking for it chief.

When one half of the project requires the second half be a certain way... probably a good idea to accommodate him eh toots?

Not hating on you or your coder, but requiring a special html output for a program isn't worth $1k... if you're paying that for it, it should be easily skinned, it doesn't take much to seperate html from the code and make it so you can use css, or tables.
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Does it matter to the search engines or load times if you have a css file or a style setup in html?
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Not hating on you or your coder, but requiring a special html output for a program isn't worth $1k... if you're paying that for it, it should be easily skinned, it doesn't take much to seperate html from the code and make it so you can use css, or tables.
Not this shit again...

Konrad will be doing the CMS, and code work. However, he, like many good programmers do not do design. Hence, this this thread.
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Not this shit again...

Konrad will be doing the CMS, and code work. However, he, like many good programmers do not do design. Hence, this this thread.
Not trying to argue with you, just stating that you shouldn't require css or tables in a design for a script, the buyer should be able to use anything they please...
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Cardinal Vices is a studio made of 5 people. Each of us is doing its own task, so that helps us with managing large orders that require every bit of knowledge. We have a programmer, flash specialist, cartoonist, banner pro and webdesigner. Because we operate from Ukraine, we offer competitive rates. I need to know more about what needs to be done to be able to make you our price offer, but I do want to mention that our clients are getting support for the work that we do. So if there is an issue, it will be resolved.

If you are ok with us working for you on another side of the planet, please drop me an email to sales 'at' cardinalvices 'dot' com with project description.
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Cardinal Vices is a studio made of 5 people. Each of us is doing its own task, so that helps us with managing large orders that require every bit of knowledge. We have a programmer, flash specialist, cartoonist, banner pro and webdesigner. Because we operate from Ukraine, we offer competitive rates. I need to know more about what needs to be done to be able to make you our price offer, but I do want to mention that our clients are getting support for the work that we do. So if there is an issue, it will be resolved.

If you are ok with us working for you on another side of the planet, please drop me an email to sales 'at' cardinalvices 'dot' com with project description.
Thanks mate. Right now I am uncommitted on designer. So will peep out your rates.
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