Shouldn't We Be Reacting to This AVN Online Report? - GoFuckYourself.com

davecummings · 04-27-2006, 07:11 PM

http://avnonline.com/index.php?Prima...tent_ID=265100

Dave

BoyAlley · 04-27-2006, 07:12 PM

Post by David Cummings equals PostCount ++;

u-Bob · 04-27-2006, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

Post by David Cummings equals PostCount ++;

i see yer point...

tony286 · 04-27-2006, 07:17 PM

most dont care sadly and I think there are alot they say they dont want it to your face but secretly hope for a chance to strike gold.

NewbieNudes · 04-27-2006, 09:07 PM

Fuck some of the responses there are scary. (they are here http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-tld-agreement/)

Eg one "for" person said..

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3. it will level the playing field for those wishing
to set up a new site. All of the good .coms long ago
were snapped up by people with a lot of money, and
this is an opportunity for others to have their chance
to register a prime name.

another said..

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No Brainer.... Establishment of the XXX domain is long overdue.

What is also a worry is to see they are only getting 1 or two emails a day on the subject.

SEND YOUR EMAIL OPPOSING THIS to [email protected] now!

It takes 3 minutes. THAT is a lot less than the time you are going to spend fighting for the .xxx version of your domain once some squatter has it.

d00t · 04-27-2006, 10:31 PM

Guys this affects all of us - this is our business and it's obvious that it will have a negative impact on ALL of our traffic and sales if .xxx goes through.

Take 5 minutes out from your day to send an email. Don't think that "oh everyone else will do it"; because if you look at their page, 1 or 2 people a day are speaking up and most of them are PRO-XXX.

Hop to it, send over your non-abusive thoughts! I just did.

NewbieNudes · 04-27-2006, 10:33 PM

Also - let your surfers know about it..

Here is a post with a sample notice to provide your surfers.

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/603197-sample-msg-surfers-re-xxx.html

paymeback · 04-27-2006, 11:39 PM

emailed, gotta all work together

NewbieNudes · 04-28-2006, 04:38 AM

emailed yet?

chadglni · 04-28-2006, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by NewbieNudes

emailed yet?

No I registered 400 .xxx domains instead.

ry0t · 04-28-2006, 05:57 AM

Fuck .xxx I'll still put all my shit on .com (commercial) no matter what.

The Duck · 04-28-2006, 06:07 AM

sent them an email

Grapesoda · 04-28-2006, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by davecummings

http://avnonline.com/index.php?Prima...tent_ID=265100

Dave

do we need to be concerend about ass wipes buying our 'xxx' domains before we can swtich from 'com' to 'xxx' if this goes through? . . that's a question that has been on my mind about the whole tuna . . your thoughts dave?

Tom_PM · 04-28-2006, 06:26 AM

Bump for importance. Even if you just write ".xxx should not be approved, it will make it too easy to block free speech based solely on domain extension."

Yucky Smurf · 04-28-2006, 06:30 AM

the true reality of it is that all the major online adult whales WELCOME THE XXX idea.

why?

1. It kills off the competition
2. it kill off all their affiliates who have spent years of promoting and making their sites VALUABLE.
3. they sell off their sites directly to ISP's

your all fools not to see it this way.

instead of trying to get affiliates to fire off emails to congress....why dont u ask WHY ARENT THE BIG SHOTS u spend ur time promoting not dong anything about it

Quote:

Originally Posted by d00t

Guys this affects all of us - this is our business and it's obvious that it will have a negative impact on ALL of our traffic and sales if .xxx goes through.

Take 5 minutes out from your day to send an email. Don't think that "oh everyone else will do it"; because if you look at their page, 1 or 2 people a day are speaking up and most of them are PRO-XXX.

Hop to it, send over your non-abusive thoughts! I just did.

xclusive · 04-28-2006, 06:42 AM

i'm drafting an email right now.

Tom_PM · 04-28-2006, 06:43 AM

The way to get people to email is to start threads like this. There's no reason that any whales WANT .xxx, thats nuts! The people who want it are people who want a simple access point to choke off all adult, and the people making money from selling .xxx domains.

davecummings · 04-28-2006, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Wanton

do we need to be concerend about ass wipes buying our 'xxx' domains before we can swtich from 'com' to 'xxx' if this goes through? . . that's a question that has been on my mind about the whole tuna . . your thoughts dave?

It's also something I've been wondering ---any thoughts from GFY posters? Connor, Tom, etc??? Help-p-p-p!!!!

Dave

Tom_PM · 04-28-2006, 08:30 AM

Remember when .info came out how registrars GAVE you the .info of each of your other domains for free?? My registrar did! Thats how they should do .kids! And if some asswipe puts adult material on a .kids they would deserve to be busted hard.

IMHO, .xxx should not be approved WITHOUT a law. And thats why it's a horrible idea!

If it's voluntary, then it will overnight double the amount of porn sites on the internet. Who's gonna give up porn.com because they bought porn.xxx? Only a complete idiot! What they'll have is both, with both being porn sites.

And if it gets approved with a law calling for all adult material to reside on .xxx domains for face criminal charges, it will only serve to censor free speech. Yeah I know not all countries will have a law, or allow free speech, but this is mainly a US problem.

seeric · 04-28-2006, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ry0t

Fuck .xxx I'll still put all my shit on .com (commercial) no matter what.

until google and other SE's and isps are forced by the GOV to filter all .com adult listings.

Tom_PM · 04-28-2006, 08:47 AM

Yep. Because a few legislators who are all for .xxx know damn well that what will happen is it will only double the number of porn sites on the net. Then they'll propose bills to be passed into law to bring us evil doers in line by forcing us to be on .xxx or face criminal charges. Next step is simple, ban all .xxx at the ISP level. Pressure places like Google to ban all adult materials and ads that are not linked to .xxx. It's not THAT long of a slippery slope.

Using .xxx as an argument that it'll make it easier to prevent children from viewing adult material is a complete red herring. Heres a simple analogy. If you wanted your child to only get email from "[email protected]", do you black list everyone else, or whitelist that single address? duh.

.kids is the whitelist approach that makes so much common sense, it's no wonder that lawmakers dont want to do it. It's too simple. There is no room for abuse. No money to be made. I really hope that ICAAN is only paying lip service to the idea of .xxx, with no real intention of approving it.

davecummings · 04-28-2006, 01:02 PM

Is it true that ASACP once sent in a letter recommending .xxx approval? If so, who is pulling the strings behind ASACP, and does that person or entity have a subjective motive or money-making arrangement with someone else if .xxx is approved? Was that ASACP letter prior to the surfacing of .kids as a suitable replacement for .xxx? Has ASACP rescinded their .xxx support--and, if not, should the money and power behind ASACP force it? Who is the name/organization behind ASACP's support of .xxx (assuming ASACP did/does support .xxx).

IMHO, ASACP should be strongly and loudly embracing .kids. Approval of .xxx might be the end of the Adult Internet as we now know it, so can't we lobby for ASACP to strongly disavow .xxx and instead write ICANN recommending .kids.

I'm lost--is there someone powerful in ASACP and it's money-man/organization who might be in a position to profit from .xxx? WHO/WHAT is that person/organization. Anyone know?

Temp1 · 04-28-2006, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Yep. Because a few legislators who are all for .xxx know damn well that what will happen is it will only double the number of porn sites on the net. Then they'll propose bills to be passed into law to bring us evil doers in line by forcing us to be on .xxx or face criminal charges. Next step is simple, ban all .xxx at the ISP level. Pressure places like Google to ban all adult materials and ads that are not linked to .xxx. It's not THAT long of a slippery slope.

Using .xxx as an argument that it'll make it easier to prevent children from viewing adult material is a complete red herring. Heres a simple analogy. If you wanted your child to only get email from "[email protected]", do you black list everyone else, or whitelist that single address? duh.

.kids is the whitelist approach that makes so much common sense, it's no wonder that lawmakers dont want to do it. It's too simple. There is no room for abuse. No money to be made. I really hope that ICAAN is only paying lip service to the idea of .xxx, with no real intention of approving it.

Great post. My letter is emailed.

ronaldo · 04-28-2006, 01:34 PM

One way or another it's going through, whether it's next week, next month or next year.

The "Difference" being will it be mandatory or not.

Just by creating .xxx, for the adult online community, it essentially IS mandatory (ie-brand protection), and those trying to push it through already know that, or they'd have given up a LONG time ago.

It's a money grab. Nothing more, nothing less.

The really scary part is once those domains are in full swing, what further restrictions, costs and taxes the government will decide to implement. That doesn't even mention individual isp's having the right to block the entire TLD.

If it starts out not being mandatory I imagine you'll see a lot of people redirect the .xxx domains they purchase to their .coms. When the government sees that happening and them losing the tax revenues they'll surely impose, it'll become mandatory shortly thereafter.

What we're seeing now, is only the first of many steps to come.

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d00t Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In your mind Posts: 3,766	Guys this affects all of us - this is our business and it's obvious that it will have a negative impact on ALL of our traffic and sales if .xxx goes through. Take 5 minutes out from your day to send an email. Don't think that "oh everyone else will do it"; because if you look at their page, 1 or 2 people a day are speaking up and most of them are PRO-XXX. Hop to it, send over your non-abusive thoughts! I just did.

04-28-2006, 05:57 AM	#11
ry0t So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Boston Posts: 4,160	Fuck .xxx I'll still put all my shit on .com (commercial) no matter what.

04-28-2006, 06:26 AM	#14
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	Bump for importance. Even if you just write ".xxx should not be approved, it will make it too easy to block free speech based solely on domain extension." __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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04-28-2006, 06:43 AM	#17
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	The way to get people to email is to start threads like this. There's no reason that any whales WANT .xxx, thats nuts! The people who want it are people who want a simple access point to choke off all adult, and the people making money from selling .xxx domains. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

04-28-2006, 08:30 AM	#19
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	Remember when .info came out how registrars GAVE you the .info of each of your other domains for free?? My registrar did! Thats how they should do .kids! And if some asswipe puts adult material on a .kids they would deserve to be busted hard. IMHO, .xxx should not be approved WITHOUT a law. And thats why it's a horrible idea! If it's voluntary, then it will overnight double the amount of porn sites on the internet. Who's gonna give up porn.com because they bought porn.xxx? Only a complete idiot! What they'll have is both, with both being porn sites. And if it gets approved with a law calling for all adult material to reside on .xxx domains for face criminal charges, it will only serve to censor free speech. Yeah I know not all countries will have a law, or allow free speech, but this is mainly a US problem. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

04-28-2006, 08:47 AM	#21
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	Yep. Because a few legislators who are all for .xxx know damn well that what will happen is it will only double the number of porn sites on the net. Then they'll propose bills to be passed into law to bring us evil doers in line by forcing us to be on .xxx or face criminal charges. Next step is simple, ban all .xxx at the ISP level. Pressure places like Google to ban all adult materials and ads that are not linked to .xxx. It's not THAT long of a slippery slope. Using .xxx as an argument that it'll make it easier to prevent children from viewing adult material is a complete red herring. Heres a simple analogy. If you wanted your child to only get email from "[email protected]", do you black list everyone else, or whitelist that single address? duh. .kids is the whitelist approach that makes so much common sense, it's no wonder that lawmakers dont want to do it. It's too simple. There is no room for abuse. No money to be made. I really hope that ICAAN is only paying lip service to the idea of .xxx, with no real intention of approving it. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

04-28-2006, 01:02 PM	#22
davecummings Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,922	Is it true that ASACP once sent in a letter recommending .xxx approval? If so, who is pulling the strings behind ASACP, and does that person or entity have a subjective motive or money-making arrangement with someone else if .xxx is approved? Was that ASACP letter prior to the surfacing of .kids as a suitable replacement for .xxx? Has ASACP rescinded their .xxx support--and, if not, should the money and power behind ASACP force it? Who is the name/organization behind ASACP's support of .xxx (assuming ASACP did/does support .xxx). IMHO, ASACP should be strongly and loudly embracing .kids. Approval of .xxx might be the end of the Adult Internet as we now know it, so can't we lobby for ASACP to strongly disavow .xxx and instead write ICANN recommending .kids. I'm lost--is there someone powerful in ASACP and it's money-man/organization who might be in a position to profit from .xxx? WHO/WHAT is that person/organization. Anyone know?

04-28-2006, 01:34 PM	#24
ronaldo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ICQ#: 272000271 Posts: 5,475	One way or another it's going through, whether it's next week, next month or next year. The "Difference" being will it be mandatory or not. Just by creating .xxx, for the adult online community, it essentially IS mandatory (ie-brand protection), and those trying to push it through already know that, or they'd have given up a LONG time ago. It's a money grab. Nothing more, nothing less. The really scary part is once those domains are in full swing, what further restrictions, costs and taxes the government will decide to implement. That doesn't even mention individual isp's having the right to block the entire TLD. If it starts out not being mandatory I imagine you'll see a lot of people redirect the .xxx domains they purchase to their .coms. When the government sees that happening and them losing the tax revenues they'll surely impose, it'll become mandatory shortly thereafter. What we're seeing now, is only the first of many steps to come.