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davecummings 04-27-2006 07:11 PM

Shouldn't We Be Reacting to This AVN Online Report?
 
http://avnonline.com/index.php?Prima...tent_ID=265100

Dave

BoyAlley 04-27-2006 07:12 PM

Post by David Cummings equals PostCount ++;

u-Bob 04-27-2006 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoyAlley
Post by David Cummings equals PostCount ++;

i see yer point...

tony286 04-27-2006 07:17 PM

most dont care sadly and I think there are alot they say they dont want it to your face but secretly hope for a chance to strike gold.

NewbieNudes 04-27-2006 09:07 PM

Fuck some of the responses there are scary. (they are here http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-tld-agreement/)

Eg one "for" person said..

Quote:

3. it will level the playing field for those wishing
to set up a new site. All of the good .coms long ago
were snapped up by people with a lot of money, and
this is an opportunity for others to have their chance
to register a prime name.
another said..
Quote:

No Brainer.... Establishment of the XXX domain is long overdue.
What is also a worry is to see they are only getting 1 or two emails a day on the subject.

SEND YOUR EMAIL OPPOSING THIS to [email protected] now!

It takes 3 minutes. THAT is a lot less than the time you are going to spend fighting for the .xxx version of your domain once some squatter has it.

d00t 04-27-2006 10:31 PM

Guys this affects all of us - this is our business and it's obvious that it will have a negative impact on ALL of our traffic and sales if .xxx goes through.

Take 5 minutes out from your day to send an email. Don't think that "oh everyone else will do it"; because if you look at their page, 1 or 2 people a day are speaking up and most of them are PRO-XXX.

Hop to it, send over your non-abusive thoughts! I just did.

NewbieNudes 04-27-2006 10:33 PM

Also - let your surfers know about it..

Here is a post with a sample notice to provide your surfers.

fucking-around-and-business-discussion/603197-sample-msg-surfers-re-xxx.html

:thumbsup

paymeback 04-27-2006 11:39 PM

emailed, gotta all work together

NewbieNudes 04-28-2006 04:38 AM

emailed yet?

chadglni 04-28-2006 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by NewbieNudes
emailed yet?

No I registered 400 .xxx domains instead.

ry0t 04-28-2006 05:57 AM

Fuck .xxx I'll still put all my shit on .com (commercial) no matter what.

The Duck 04-28-2006 06:07 AM

sent them an email

Grapesoda 04-28-2006 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davecummings

do we need to be concerend about ass wipes buying our 'xxx' domains before we can swtich from 'com' to 'xxx' if this goes through? . . that's a question that has been on my mind about the whole tuna . . your thoughts dave?

Tom_PM 04-28-2006 06:26 AM

Bump for importance. Even if you just write ".xxx should not be approved, it will make it too easy to block free speech based solely on domain extension."

Yucky Smurf 04-28-2006 06:30 AM

the true reality of it is that all the major online adult whales WELCOME THE XXX idea.

why?

1. It kills off the competition
2. it kill off all their affiliates who have spent years of promoting and making their sites VALUABLE.
3. they sell off their sites directly to ISP's


your all fools not to see it this way.

instead of trying to get affiliates to fire off emails to congress....why dont u ask WHY ARENT THE BIG SHOTS u spend ur time promoting not dong anything about it



Quote:

Originally Posted by d00t
Guys this affects all of us - this is our business and it's obvious that it will have a negative impact on ALL of our traffic and sales if .xxx goes through.

Take 5 minutes out from your day to send an email. Don't think that "oh everyone else will do it"; because if you look at their page, 1 or 2 people a day are speaking up and most of them are PRO-XXX.

Hop to it, send over your non-abusive thoughts! I just did.


xclusive 04-28-2006 06:42 AM

i'm drafting an email right now.

Tom_PM 04-28-2006 06:43 AM

The way to get people to email is to start threads like this. There's no reason that any whales WANT .xxx, thats nuts! The people who want it are people who want a simple access point to choke off all adult, and the people making money from selling .xxx domains.

davecummings 04-28-2006 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wanton
do we need to be concerend about ass wipes buying our 'xxx' domains before we can swtich from 'com' to 'xxx' if this goes through? . . that's a question that has been on my mind about the whole tuna . . your thoughts dave?

It's also something I've been wondering ---any thoughts from GFY posters? Connor, Tom, etc??? Help-p-p-p!!!!

Dave

Tom_PM 04-28-2006 08:30 AM

Remember when .info came out how registrars GAVE you the .info of each of your other domains for free?? My registrar did! Thats how they should do .kids! And if some asswipe puts adult material on a .kids they would deserve to be busted hard.

IMHO, .xxx should not be approved WITHOUT a law. And thats why it's a horrible idea!

If it's voluntary, then it will overnight double the amount of porn sites on the internet. Who's gonna give up porn.com because they bought porn.xxx? Only a complete idiot! What they'll have is both, with both being porn sites.

And if it gets approved with a law calling for all adult material to reside on .xxx domains for face criminal charges, it will only serve to censor free speech. Yeah I know not all countries will have a law, or allow free speech, but this is mainly a US problem.

seeric 04-28-2006 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ry0t
Fuck .xxx I'll still put all my shit on .com (commercial) no matter what.

until google and other SE's and isps are forced by the GOV to filter all .com adult listings.

Tom_PM 04-28-2006 08:47 AM

Yep. Because a few legislators who are all for .xxx know damn well that what will happen is it will only double the number of porn sites on the net. Then they'll propose bills to be passed into law to bring us evil doers in line by forcing us to be on .xxx or face criminal charges. Next step is simple, ban all .xxx at the ISP level. Pressure places like Google to ban all adult materials and ads that are not linked to .xxx. It's not THAT long of a slippery slope.

Using .xxx as an argument that it'll make it easier to prevent children from viewing adult material is a complete red herring. Heres a simple analogy. If you wanted your child to only get email from "[email protected]", do you black list everyone else, or whitelist that single address? duh.

.kids is the whitelist approach that makes so much common sense, it's no wonder that lawmakers dont want to do it. It's too simple. There is no room for abuse. No money to be made. I really hope that ICAAN is only paying lip service to the idea of .xxx, with no real intention of approving it.

davecummings 04-28-2006 01:02 PM

Is it true that ASACP once sent in a letter recommending .xxx approval? If so, who is pulling the strings behind ASACP, and does that person or entity have a subjective motive or money-making arrangement with someone else if .xxx is approved? Was that ASACP letter prior to the surfacing of .kids as a suitable replacement for .xxx? Has ASACP rescinded their .xxx support--and, if not, should the money and power behind ASACP force it? Who is the name/organization behind ASACP's support of .xxx (assuming ASACP did/does support .xxx).

IMHO, ASACP should be strongly and loudly embracing .kids. Approval of .xxx might be the end of the Adult Internet as we now know it, so can't we lobby for ASACP to strongly disavow .xxx and instead write ICANN recommending .kids.

I'm lost--is there someone powerful in ASACP and it's money-man/organization who might be in a position to profit from .xxx? WHO/WHAT is that person/organization. Anyone know?

Temp1 04-28-2006 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom
Yep. Because a few legislators who are all for .xxx know damn well that what will happen is it will only double the number of porn sites on the net. Then they'll propose bills to be passed into law to bring us evil doers in line by forcing us to be on .xxx or face criminal charges. Next step is simple, ban all .xxx at the ISP level. Pressure places like Google to ban all adult materials and ads that are not linked to .xxx. It's not THAT long of a slippery slope.

Using .xxx as an argument that it'll make it easier to prevent children from viewing adult material is a complete red herring. Heres a simple analogy. If you wanted your child to only get email from "[email protected]", do you black list everyone else, or whitelist that single address? duh.

.kids is the whitelist approach that makes so much common sense, it's no wonder that lawmakers dont want to do it. It's too simple. There is no room for abuse. No money to be made. I really hope that ICAAN is only paying lip service to the idea of .xxx, with no real intention of approving it.

Great post. My letter is emailed.

ronaldo 04-28-2006 01:34 PM

One way or another it's going through, whether it's next week, next month or next year.

The "Difference" being will it be mandatory or not.

Just by creating .xxx, for the adult online community, it essentially IS mandatory (ie-brand protection), and those trying to push it through already know that, or they'd have given up a LONG time ago.

It's a money grab. Nothing more, nothing less.

The really scary part is once those domains are in full swing, what further restrictions, costs and taxes the government will decide to implement. That doesn't even mention individual isp's having the right to block the entire TLD.

If it starts out not being mandatory I imagine you'll see a lot of people redirect the .xxx domains they purchase to their .coms. When the government sees that happening and them losing the tax revenues they'll surely impose, it'll become mandatory shortly thereafter.

What we're seeing now, is only the first of many steps to come.


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