Slavik kicks Domain King's butt in domain battle over voyuer.com - GoFuckYourself.com

GeorgeK · 04-28-2005, 09:49 AM

As reported elsewhere, there was a battle of the domain titans Slavik Viner ("Xedoc") and "Domain King" Rick Schwartz ("Virtual Dates") over voyuer.com at the National Arbitration Forum:

http://www.arb-forum.com/domains/decisions/433802.htm

Complainant is Virtual Dates, Inc. (?Complainant?), represented by Howard Neu of Law Office of Howard Neu, P.A., 1152 North University Drive, Pembroke Pines, FL 33024.
[...]
Complainant?s additional submission consists of an Affidavit of Richard Schwartz...
[...]
The Panel is most disturbed by Complainant?s additional submission. The Schwartz declaration is unsupported by any evidence. The Schwartz Declaration contradicts the very trademark application on which Complainant basis its request for relief.
[...]
Complainant mischaracterizes the decision in The Cold War Museum v. Nicolas Jampol, FA96594 (Nat. Arb. Forum Feb. 8, 2001).
[...]
Schwartz? misleading affidavit...
[...]
Complainant has not established all three elements required under the ICANN Policy; the Panel concludes that relief shall be DENIED.

Slavik holds onto the domain, in victory. I told Domain King his trademark registrations were worthless, years ago. Glad to see that Slavik and the Panel agreed.

That makes 3 UDRP losses for "the King", the other 2 being for racingform.com and adtsucks.com, see:

http://arbiter.wipo.int/domains/dec...d2001-1032.html
http://arbiter.wipo.int/domains/dec...d2001-0213.html

Way to go, Slavik.

leedsfan · 04-28-2005, 10:04 AM

george.

they are arguing over a mispell?

www.voyeur.com is the correct spelling.

decrypted · 04-28-2005, 10:07 AM

still worth it
i misspell it everytime im lookin for por...errr i mean working....

Joesho · 04-28-2005, 10:08 AM

congratulations Slavik.

GeorgeK · 04-28-2005, 10:12 AM

That was a $112,100 domain at SnapNames, if folks don't realize the value and significance of that type-in.

http://www.multireg.com/article547.html

nojob · 04-28-2005, 10:15 AM

Slavik is a PIMP! Nice meeting you in vegas. Had a good time at ICE and the sky box.

DaddyHalbucks · 04-28-2005, 10:25 AM

Slavik is a very successful young man.

polish_aristocrat · 04-28-2005, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Slavik is a very successful young man.

young?

how old is he if that is not a secret?

Theo · 04-28-2005, 10:44 AM

seems more like a personal beef than a legit claim to me

GeorgeK · 04-28-2005, 10:50 AM

Spend under $2000 at UDRP, to take a shot at a $100,000+ domain. But, lose your reputation when they find against you.

Here's to a 3-time loser.

Manga1 · 04-28-2005, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

seems more like a personal beef than a legit claim to me

Yeah, sounds like Rick was pissed because Slavik knew how much voyeur.com made and therefore how much to pay for the typo.

BradShaw · 04-28-2005, 10:52 AM

I am lost, why were they fighting over it? Do not tell me mr. airbursh tried to get it for free since he owns the non mis-spell?

GeorgeK · 04-28-2005, 10:55 AM

Rick will have to settle for his "billions" of dollars worth of domains:

http://www.webmastering.com/busplan.htm

"My $2 million investment has a current net worth of over $1 billion in RAW and UNDEVELOPED .com assets just waiting to be developed and brought to the next level."

(screenshot at http://www.loffs.com/images/domainkingbillions.gif in case the original link mysteriously changes)

I wonder if the ex-wife's divorce lawyer is aware of that domain portfolio valuation? $500 million would be a big payout for her, if she in entitled to half.

GeorgeK · 04-28-2005, 10:58 AM

Bradshaw: yeah, he took a shot at trying to get it on the cheap. Kudos to Slavik for not bowing down before his one-time mentor.

Are there any folks still left on Rick's private board, in the face of this humiliating defeat?

DaddyHalbucks · 04-28-2005, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeorgeK

I wonder if the ex-wife's divorce lawyer is aware of that domain portfolio valuation? $500 million would be a big payout for her, if she in entitled to half.

What was the settlement with Jo Anne Schwartz?

Does anyone know how much money JoAnne Schwartz got?

Lee · 04-28-2005, 12:45 PM

George, you might be gloating because you got booted but he is still one successful guy. Was he wrong to go for the mis-spell? probably so, but Jeez dude.

Hal, wouldnt you consider that personal?

GeorgeK · 04-28-2005, 01:16 PM

If one measures "success" by losing UDRPs, he has me beat by a country mile.

DaddyHalbucks · 04-28-2005, 01:19 PM

Lee,

I am just wondering if it was close to the $500 million number that he estimates is half his net worth.

GeorgeK · 04-28-2005, 01:21 PM

http://dnjournal.com/columns/cover020204.htm

Schwartz concluded, ?what I do is legal and moral, what some others in the business do is illegal. Like hijacking domains, extortion, stealing content and worse. We can call them crooks because that is exactly what they are. Then we have the infringers that try and extort money from companies and that practice gives us all a bad name. They are the true cyber squatters that have soiled all our good names and had us all painted with the same brush as they are.?

Schwartz believes that ?making statements like that makes me an unpopular guy among every infringer, cyber squatter, hijacker and every other wrong doer. There is a small but vocal group that never misses an opportunity to say something nasty or make some crap up about me. So when you hear the attacks, look a little deeper and you usually find a motive.?

It's statements like the above that beg for one to point out the hypocrisy -- he's the one with the 3 UDRP losses. I can only imagine the emails he sent to Slavik before filing the UDRP for voyuer.com.

04-28-2005, 09:49 AM	#1
GeorgeK Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 423	Slavik kicks Domain King's butt in domain battle over voyuer.com As reported elsewhere, there was a battle of the domain titans Slavik Viner ("Xedoc") and "Domain King" Rick Schwartz ("Virtual Dates") over voyuer.com at the National Arbitration Forum: http://www.arb-forum.com/domains/decisions/433802.htm Complainant is Virtual Dates, Inc. (?Complainant?), represented by Howard Neu of Law Office of Howard Neu, P.A., 1152 North University Drive, Pembroke Pines, FL 33024. [...] Complainant?s additional submission consists of an Affidavit of Richard Schwartz... [...] The Panel is most disturbed by Complainant?s additional submission. The Schwartz declaration is unsupported by any evidence. The Schwartz Declaration contradicts the very trademark application on which Complainant basis its request for relief. [...] Complainant mischaracterizes the decision in The Cold War Museum v. Nicolas Jampol, FA96594 (Nat. Arb. Forum Feb. 8, 2001). [...] Schwartz? misleading affidavit... [...] Complainant has not established all three elements required under the ICANN Policy; the Panel concludes that relief shall be DENIED. Slavik holds onto the domain, in victory. I told Domain King his trademark registrations were worthless, years ago. Glad to see that Slavik and the Panel agreed. That makes 3 UDRP losses for "the King", the other 2 being for racingform.com and adtsucks.com, see: http://arbiter.wipo.int/domains/dec...d2001-1032.html http://arbiter.wipo.int/domains/dec...d2001-0213.html Way to go, Slavik. __________________ I buy good domain names. Send lists to George (at) LOFFS.com

04-28-2005, 10:04 AM	#2
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04-28-2005, 10:07 AM	#3
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04-28-2005, 10:08 AM	#4
Joesho want to get in shape Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: on the lake Posts: 12,329	congratulations Slavik. __________________ Got any domains to sell? I proudly host all my stuff at www.rackco.com

04-28-2005, 10:12 AM	#5
GeorgeK Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 423	That was a $112,100 domain at SnapNames, if folks don't realize the value and significance of that type-in. http://www.multireg.com/article547.html __________________ I buy good domain names. Send lists to George (at) LOFFS.com

04-28-2005, 10:15 AM	#6
nojob The Original NoJob Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Jerzzey Posts: 3,682	Slavik is a PIMP! Nice meeting you in vegas. Had a good time at ICE and the sky box.

04-28-2005, 10:25 AM	#7
DaddyHalbucks A freakin' legend! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada USA Posts: 18,975	Slavik is a very successful young man. __________________ Boner Money

04-28-2005, 10:44 AM	#9
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	seems more like a personal beef than a legit claim to me

04-28-2005, 10:50 AM	#10
GeorgeK Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 423	Spend under $2000 at UDRP, to take a shot at a $100,000+ domain. But, lose your reputation when they find against you. Here's to a 3-time loser. __________________ I buy good domain names. Send lists to George (at) LOFFS.com

04-28-2005, 10:52 AM	#12
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	I am lost, why were they fighting over it? Do not tell me mr. airbursh tried to get it for free since he owns the non mis-spell? __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

04-28-2005, 10:55 AM	#13
GeorgeK Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 423	Rick will have to settle for his "billions" of dollars worth of domains: http://www.webmastering.com/busplan.htm "My $2 million investment has a current net worth of over $1 billion in RAW and UNDEVELOPED .com assets just waiting to be developed and brought to the next level." (screenshot at http://www.loffs.com/images/domainkingbillions.gif in case the original link mysteriously changes) I wonder if the ex-wife's divorce lawyer is aware of that domain portfolio valuation? $500 million would be a big payout for her, if she in entitled to half. __________________ I buy good domain names. Send lists to George (at) LOFFS.com

04-28-2005, 10:58 AM	#14
GeorgeK Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 423	Bradshaw: yeah, he took a shot at trying to get it on the cheap. Kudos to Slavik for not bowing down before his one-time mentor. Are there any folks still left on Rick's private board, in the face of this humiliating defeat? __________________ I buy good domain names. Send lists to George (at) LOFFS.com

04-28-2005, 12:45 PM	#16
Lee Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kernow Posts: 2,977	George, you might be gloating because you got booted but he is still one successful guy. Was he wrong to go for the mis-spell? probably so, but Jeez dude. Hal, wouldnt you consider that personal?

04-28-2005, 01:16 PM	#17
GeorgeK Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 423	If one measures "success" by losing UDRPs, he has me beat by a country mile. __________________ I buy good domain names. Send lists to George (at) LOFFS.com

04-28-2005, 01:19 PM	#18
DaddyHalbucks A freakin' legend! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada USA Posts: 18,975	Lee, I am just wondering if it was close to the $500 million number that he estimates is half his net worth. __________________ Boner Money

04-28-2005, 01:21 PM	#19
GeorgeK Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 423	http://dnjournal.com/columns/cover020204.htm Schwartz concluded, ?what I do is legal and moral, what some others in the business do is illegal. Like hijacking domains, extortion, stealing content and worse. We can call them crooks because that is exactly what they are. Then we have the infringers that try and extort money from companies and that practice gives us all a bad name. They are the true cyber squatters that have soiled all our good names and had us all painted with the same brush as they are.? Schwartz believes that ?making statements like that makes me an unpopular guy among every infringer, cyber squatter, hijacker and every other wrong doer. There is a small but vocal group that never misses an opportunity to say something nasty or make some crap up about me. So when you hear the attacks, look a little deeper and you usually find a motive.? It's statements like the above that beg for one to point out the hypocrisy -- he's the one with the 3 UDRP losses. I can only imagine the emails he sent to Slavik before filing the UDRP for voyuer.com. __________________ I buy good domain names. Send lists to George (at) LOFFS.com