Jesus frickin christ <rant> - GoFuckYourself.com

BradM · 09-03-2004, 03:27 PM

Okay I have noticed one major difference in Adult from mainstream.
Statistics. While in adult we have clicks, sales and conversions one thing we do NOT employ enough of is our own Cost per Click conversion.

What I am talking about is:

Sponsor A pays $35 per signup. You convert 1:500 and send 500 clicks. Thus you made $35 per 500 clicks or, $0.035 per click.

Sponsor B pays $20 per signup. You convert 1:250 and send 500 clicks, you just made $40, or $0.04 per click.

Now let me ask you a question. If you convert like this on a regular basis, you are earning MORE money per every click you send. So why would you simply promote a sponsor just because they pay more per sale?

Sometimes adult has it completely backwards. Basing who you should and should not send traffic to solely based on who is paying more per signup is NOT the way to go.

Just a reminder: We are converting 1:70 today. COUGH

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JSA Matt · 09-03-2004, 03:28 PM

Sponsor A pays $35 per signup. You convert 1:500
Sponsor B pays $20 per signup. You convert 1:250

I wonder why the ratios are better for sponsor B

BradM · 09-03-2004, 03:30 PM

So when do I get to meet the infamous Matt?

Sly_RJ · 09-03-2004, 03:30 PM

No, that isn't an adult thing. Thats an idiot thing. If idiots want to continue pushing only the highest paying sponsors, so be it. Less competition for those with brains.

BradM · 09-03-2004, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
No, that isn't an adult thing. Thats an idiot thing. If idiots want to continue pushing only the highest paying sponsors, so be it. Less competition for those with brains.

Yeah but I guess that is what frustrates me. It seems like most people just jump around to the highest paying sponsor. Like if someone started paying $35.50 instead of 35 there would be an influx of bandwagon jumpers.

Manowar · 09-03-2004, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JSA Matt
I wonder why the ratios are better for sponsor B

woj · 09-03-2004, 03:42 PM

Things are really much simpler than you stated... conversion ratios are irrevelant, so are amounts per sale, so are click-through ratios...

What matters is your bottom line ->
The sponsor that sends you the biggest check for the same number of banner impressions is the best

Tom_PMs · 09-03-2004, 03:52 PM

In other words, who has acceptable ROI for YOUR traffic methods?

You must join yourself, you must send YOUR traffic, and you must analyze YOUR ROI!

Sure someone may get 1:40 ratios, but they may also be paying $1.00 per click and $400 a month hosting to get it.

Someone may get 1:1000 ratio's, but they may pay zero for hosting, zero for content, zero for traffic.

Now which is the better ratio?

Other peoples ratio info is useless

CDSmith · 09-03-2004, 04:06 PM

I made a whopping $13 per signup with bangbus a few years ago.

*cough*Made a grand killing on the rebills though. *cough*

stocktrader23 · 09-03-2004, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
I made a whopping $13 per signup with bangbus a few years ago.

*cough*Made a grand killing on the rebills though. *cough*

But it's easy to sell bang bus because it's real. Most porn is fake.

Darren · 09-04-2004, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradM
Yeah but I guess that is what frustrates me. It seems like most people just jump around to the highest paying sponsor. Like if someone started paying $35.50 instead of 35 there would be an influx of bandwagon jumpers.

pretty much like yourself jumping around to the company which will pay you the highest

BradM · 09-04-2004, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Darren
pretty much like yourself jumping around to the company which will pay you the highest

Darren, come come now. I've been back and forth for awhile now. I have been looking for some job stability, something where I know I will be needed YEARS down the road. Looking for something that will be solid for me.

Also absolutely, I will go with who offers me more. I mean bottom line is, if you're living with your parents, and scraping by to buy food and clothing, chances are you're probably better off trying something new.

I will see you in Vegas, Darren so you can say all of this to my face and we can have a man-to-man chat. No board drama, no bullshit just sit down accross from each other at a table and you can speak your mind.

Chris · 09-04-2004, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradM
Darren, come come now. I've been back and forth for awhile now. I have been looking for some job stability, something where I know I will be needed YEARS down the road. Looking for something that will be solid for me.

Also absolutely, I will go with who offers me more. I mean bottom line is, if you're living with your parents, and scraping by to buy food and clothing, chances are you're probably better off trying something new.

I will see you in Vegas, Darren so you can say all of this to my face and we can have a man-to-man chat. No board drama, no bullshit just sit down accross from each other at a table and you can speak your mind.

Can I be there too ?

It will be a weener stretcher party

Darren · 09-04-2004, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradM
Darren, come come now. I've been back and forth for awhile now. I have been looking for some job stability, something where I know I will be needed YEARS down the road. Looking for something that will be solid for me.

Also absolutely, I will go with who offers me more. I mean bottom line is, if you're living with your parents, and scraping by to buy food and clothing, chances are you're probably better off trying something new.

I will see you in Vegas, Darren so you can say all of this to my face and we can have a man-to-man chat. No board drama, no bullshit just sit down accross from each other at a table and you can speak your mind.

You sure will see me in vegas, which company will u be with?

Darren · 09-04-2004, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JupZChris
Can I be there too ?

It will be a weener stretcher party

lol... think about that one chris... we could run our own seminar, 200 webmasters learning to use the device... the image in my head is hilarious!

BradM · 09-04-2004, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Darren
You sure will see me in vegas, which company will u be with?

I don't see the need to continue this board trashing bullshit. You seem to have developed something for me recently, like a massive hardon.

I don't sling shit at you, and I would expect the same courtesy back.

However the bottom line is affiliates see how two professionals act in a situation, and it is up to them to make a deciscion on who they would rather send their traffic to.

Thankfully I don't need to trash talk the competition to get business.

Chris · 09-04-2004, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Darren
lol... think about that one chris... we could run our own seminar, 200 webmasters learning to use the device... the image in my head is hilarious!

hahahaha

Good stuff

Chris · 09-04-2004, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradM
I don't see the need to continue this board trashing bullshit. You seem to have developed something for me recently, like a massive hardon.

I don't sling shit at you, and I would expect the same courtesy back.

However the bottom line is affiliates see how two professionals act in a situation, and it is up to them to make a deciscion on who they would rather send their traffic to.

Thankfully I don't need to trash talk the competition to get business.

h8er

you ignored my comment

go tlak to your movie store tranny

BradM · 09-04-2004, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JupZChris
Can I be there too ?

It will be a weener stretcher party

You're invited anywhere, you're my tranny sniffer. I need an expert there...

Chris · 09-04-2004, 12:50 PM

come on darren

brad is good people

He isnt a canadian anymore either

Darren · 09-04-2004, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradM
I don't see the need to continue this board trashing bullshit. You seem to have developed something for me recently, like a massive hardon.

I don't sling shit at you, and I would expect the same courtesy back.

However the bottom line is affiliates see how two professionals act in a situation, and it is up to them to make a deciscion on who they would rather send their traffic to.

Thankfully I don't need to trash talk the competition to get business.

im still trying to get my head around which "competitor" you work for now... why u so defensive, i thought board drama was your thing? my hardon is going flacid... live well and good luck, i would like nothing more than to see you pay a company back for the time they invest in you.

BradM · 09-04-2004, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Darren
im still trying to get my head around which "competitor" you work for now... why u so defensive, i thought board drama was your thing? my hardon is going flacid... live well and good luck, i would like nothing more than to see you pay a company back for the time they invest in you.

I'm done replying to you.

fuzebox · 09-04-2004, 12:55 PM

Drama!

Darren · 09-04-2004, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradM
I'm done replying to you.

so you replied to tell me that... okey dokey.

railz · 09-04-2004, 12:57 PM

It's not that cut and dried for me, but I agree per click earning are important, but then you have to factor in your base cost for that click (especially if it's PPC traffic) and so on.

I've always had an aversion to PPS programs anyway. Much rather get in on a good revshare.

Darren · 09-04-2004, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by railz
It's not that cut and dried for me, but I agree per click earning are important, but then you have to factor in your base cost for that click (especially if it's PPC traffic) and so on.

I've always had an aversion to PPS programs anyway. Much rather get in on a good revshare.

railz still looking for advertising on pornresource ;)

dready · 09-04-2004, 09:45 PM

I have software that gives that info... I agree, it's a good stat to be aware of.

09-03-2004, 03:27 PM	#1
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Jesus frickin christ <rant> Okay I have noticed one major difference in Adult from mainstream. Statistics. While in adult we have clicks, sales and conversions one thing we do NOT employ enough of is our own Cost per Click conversion. What I am talking about is: Sponsor A pays $35 per signup. You convert 1:500 and send 500 clicks. Thus you made $35 per 500 clicks or, $0.035 per click. Sponsor B pays $20 per signup. You convert 1:250 and send 500 clicks, you just made $40, or $0.04 per click. Now let me ask you a question. If you convert like this on a regular basis, you are earning MORE money per every click you send. So why would you simply promote a sponsor just because they pay more per sale? Sometimes adult has it completely backwards. Basing who you should and should not send traffic to solely based on who is paying more per signup is NOT the way to go. Just a reminder: We are converting 1:70 today. COUGH </rant> Last edited by BradM; 09-03-2004 at 03:30 PM..

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09-03-2004, 03:52 PM	#8
Tom_PMs Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,049	In other words, who has acceptable ROI for YOUR traffic methods? You must join yourself, you must send YOUR traffic, and you must analyze YOUR ROI! Sure someone may get 1:40 ratios, but they may also be paying $1.00 per click and $400 a month hosting to get it. Someone may get 1:1000 ratio's, but they may pay zero for hosting, zero for content, zero for traffic. Now which is the better ratio? Other peoples ratio info is useless __________________ You've read it, you can't unread it.

09-03-2004, 04:06 PM	#9
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	I made a whopping $13 per signup with bangbus a few years ago. coughMade a grand killing on the rebills though. cough __________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634

09-03-2004, 03:28 PM	#2
JSA Matt So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 5,464	Sponsor A pays $35 per signup. You convert 1:500 Sponsor B pays $20 per signup. You convert 1:250 I wonder why the ratios are better for sponsor B

09-04-2004, 12:50 PM	#20
Chris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: icq: 71462500 Skype: Jupzchris Posts: 27,880	come on darren brad is good people He isnt a canadian anymore either __________________ [email protected]

09-04-2004, 12:55 PM	#23
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,114	Drama!

09-04-2004, 12:57 PM	#25
railz Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,531	It's not that cut and dried for me, but I agree per click earning are important, but then you have to factor in your base cost for that click (especially if it's PPC traffic) and so on. I've always had an aversion to PPS programs anyway. Much rather get in on a good revshare. __________________ This Space for Rent

09-04-2004, 09:45 PM	#27
dready Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 5,247	I have software that gives that info... I agree, it's a good stat to be aware of. __________________ ICQ: 91139591