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Somebody Did Something Really Dumb and it Hurts!
Many of you don't know, but while I have a huge number of photos for sale, I'm still a 1-1/4 person (with a part-timer) operation. My "ride" is a bicycle. I live in a 1-bedroom apartment where the bedroom is an office, and while my gross might impress some, my net is well down in the 5 figures paying models, renting locations, buying photo equipment, and so on, gets expensive, plus money I make pretty much gets plowed back into the business right away.
So, when somebody downloads a shitload of photos and pays for it with a charge card, and then 6 weeks later I get a chargeback notice saying the owner of the card made no such purchase (around $2400), it really hurts. I just don't keep that kind of money laying around in my account. Now, someone downloaded a shitload of sets, gave me someone else's card number, and doesn't dare send in the license. I just wonder what in the world they would hope to accomplish by doing that...probably use it to screw some third party. It is not going to be easy to deal with this kind of hit. I'm going to be using every resource available to discover who did it (records of IP numbers if they're available), but I may just be stuck with this bill. After 6 weeks, the money has been spent. I'm just depressing how thoughtless some people can be. This will probably mean I will have to get all kinds of confirming documentary evidence before putting large sales with new customers through in the future.
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Sorry to hear that. Fraud is such a shame, where did all the honesty go. I'm pretty sure you'll be able to figure out who did it, tracing IPs... or in the best case you'll find your content in someone's tour who didn't license it.
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Damn sorry to hear that. Unfortunately it just goes to show you that some people in this business will do anything they can to scam others. I hope you find out exactly who did this and make them pay what they are entitled to.
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No honor.
I'm sorry that happened to you. |
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Fraud is fraud. |
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I fucking hate thieves with passion.
Especially if they steal from me. But I'm sorry to hear that, hope ya get it sorted
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Sorry to here that happen bro, I hope that asshole gets what he deserves. Who was it if I may ask?
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Best of luck catching the prick. Hope it gets resolved soon.
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That sucks
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God that SUCKS. I've never had a chargeback that big. This last week a guy's mom found out he had a little "habit" and forced him to dispute well over $5,000 in PayPal payments made to a bunch of phone sex companies.
I got hit for about $1500, I think I took the worst of it. It's a horrible, horrible thing and I hope someone figures out how to stop this kind of thing soon. I'm starting to think bar codes, finger printing or retinal scans tied to your bank account aren't a bad thing. |
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I also think the CC companies are so busy spamming high interest, high risk cards to everyone, the sheer amount of fraud has increased by a huge amount.
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Man, that's fucked up.
If you want to boost your monthly though, re-read that AVS deal proposal I sent you a few months back! |
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That just isn't right. I'm sorry to hear that.
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thats fucked up shit man.
dont call the authorites, get a really sharp knife,a nd apply light pressure with it to the base of the scrotum. and pull. ![]() ![]() |
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we'll miss you our friend. RIP
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yeah, this industry is absolutely full of cheaters and scammers.
scum. |
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Damn, sorry to hear this. Hope you get some justice on this. Oz |
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Why is it that most treat the adult porn business as a hobby? Get in and get out with what ever you can still, sad. It just totally screws up those that are honest and running things as a business. Oz |
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Sorry to hear that. Best thing to do in these cases is to always require additional information, such as the authorization form, forms of ID, etc... specifically on bigger purchases.
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Damn thats not cool
![]() Just last week someone stole my debit card number and made purchases over the internet. Luckily I noticed it quick and deactivated my card, only $300. Still it sucks. Fucking scammers ![]()
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Check this out... Whoever did this sure looked like they were financing their way into the adult biz with someone else's card. This is the "victim's" statement (identifying info obliterated) and I see a number of adult-oriented businesses here. Also, I see a second chargeback on the way in the statement, too, so I think we're up to somewhere around $3500 now that I may have to find some way to pay back. Here's his statement. I assume the circled transactions are ones the cardholder is disputing. Anybody seriously know how to fight this sort of thing (my business is "Afterglow Marketing")?
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City Guide ISP i think is Candid Hosting? Looks like a 300 dollar charge to them, a hosting account. Maybe they can give you some info.
Some charges are for paysite memberships. Then there's one that looks like another big charge to another content provider - X41 Productions of Arizona. Anybody know who that is? Unseen, when u sell licensed content don't you make them fill out a form where they have to give you domain names where you can check out that the customer's name or email matched the WHOIS registrant's information? You could still of course get ripped off but this would be a good policy.
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Well, I found the original orders and they came in about an hour apart from two different IP #'s. Here's the info I was able to obtain using an IP address tracker:
looking up 217.144.0.133 Failed to resolve address 217.144.0.133 looking up 195.66.208.29 Official name: sentry-real.ilyichevsk.net One failed to resolve and the other seems to be a Ukrainian ISP. Any ideas what to do next? <br> <br>
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how'd you get the statement?
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Ugh.. it couldn't have happened to someone who deserved the bullshit less. I am really sorry that happened to you, Unseen. I hope they catch this asshole and send him straight to his "love shack" with Bubba. Man that's unreal.. I will say one thing thing, this is a thief with taste in content!
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dude that totally sucks! the biggest charge back we had was for $600. Like you it didnt come back until the money was already spent. Anyway Good luck!
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Shit man with that info you could have gotten more info about them, and submited them to a collection agency. But if they're really in Ukraine you're fucked. There is nothing you can do here. Do some more digging and double check if he's really from Ukraine. Thats about all you can do. |
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sorry to hear that unseenworld.
btw that first ipadress: <<<<<<<< inetnum: 217.144.0.0 - 217.144.6.255 netname: NEXTJO descr: Network Exchange Technology descr: Farah Trading & Contracting Co. descr: P.O.Box 510449, Amman 11151 Jordan country: JO admin-c: MF13297-RIPE tech-c: MF16025-RIPE status: ASSIGNED PA notify: [email protected] mnt-by: RIPE-NCC-NONE-MNT changed: [email protected] 20021120 source: RIPE >>>>>>>>> |
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Unseen, in the future dont sell ANY content to any east europeans or Middle Easterners.
unless they send you funds western union . and dont take wires from them either. |
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and btw that second one seems to be a gateway from odessa.net (ukraine) as far as i can see, i cant read the page but it looks like an isp.
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Please email me with more information on this chargeback and I'll see what I have on the guy
Thanks [email protected] |
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why would he buy all that content ? why not just join the site if he wants to look at it.
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