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Old 03-14-2003, 09:43 PM   #1
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A Message From Charlie Daniels

This was sent to me from a friend via e-mail. I liked it and agree with the sentiment. Except the Pro Life part... I am Pro Choice.



Ok let's just say for a moment you bunch of pampered, overpaid, unrealistic children had your way and the USA didn't go into Iraq.


Let's say that you really get your way and we destroy all our nuclear weapons and stick daisies in our gun barrels and sit around with some white wine and cheese and pat ourselves on the back, so proud of what we've done for world peace.


Let's say that we cut the military budget to just enough to keep the National Guard on hand to help out with floods and fires.


Let's say that we close down our military bases all over the world and bring the troops home, increase our foreign aid and drop all the trade sanctions against everybody.


I suppose that in your fantasy world this would create a utopian world where everybody would live in peace. After all, the great monster, the United States of America, the cause of all the world's trouble would have disbanded it's horrible military and certainly all the other countries of the world would follow suit. After all, they only arm themselves to defend their countries from the mean old USA.


Why you bunch of pitiful, hypocritical, idiotic, spoiled mugwumps. Get your head out of the sand and smell the Trade Towers burning. Do you think that a trip to Iraq by Sean Penn did anything but encourage a wanton murderer to think that the people of the USA didn't have the nerve or the guts to fight him?


Barbra Streisand's fanatical and hateful rantings about George Bush makes about as much sense as Michael Jackson hanging a baby over a railing.


You people need to get out of Hollywood once in a while and get out into the real world. You'd be surprised at the hostility you would find out here. Stop in at a truck stop and tell an overworked, long-distance truck driver that you don't think Saddam Hussein is doing anything wrong.


Tell a farmer with a couple of sons in the military that you think the United States has no right to defend itself.


Go down to Baxley, Georgia and hold an antiwar rally and see what the folks down there think about you.


You people are some of the most disgusting examples of a waste of protoplasm I've ever had the displeasure to hear about.


Sean Penn, you're a traitor to the United States of America. You gave aid and comfort to the enemy. How many American lives will your little, ?fact finding trip ?to Iraq cost? You encouraged Saddam to think that we didn't have the stomach for war.


You people protect one of the most evil men on the face of this earth and won't lift a finger to save the life of an unborn baby. Freedom of choice you say?


Well, I'm going to exercise some freedom of choice of my own. If I see any of your names on a marquee, I'm going to boycott the movie. I will completely stop going to movies if I have to. In most cases it certainly wouldn't be much of a loss.


You scoff at our military who's boots you're not even worthy to shine. They go to battle and risk their lives so ingrates like you can live in luxury. The day of reckoning is coming when you will be faced with the undeniable truth that the war against Saddam Hussein is the war on terrorism.


America is in imminent danger. You're either for her or against her. There is no middle ground.


I think we all know where you stand.


What do you think?


God Bless America!

Charlie Daniels
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Old 03-14-2003, 09:45 PM   #2
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America is in imminent danger. You're either for her or against her. There is no middle ground.
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Incoherent babble. Just what I needed.
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Is that the guy who sings the devil went down to georgia?
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Is that the guy who sings the devil went down to georgia?
hehe.. Yeah.. Like I said, though, this was just sent to me via e-mail, so it could be Charlie Daniels the Janitor for all I know.
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ever see that Primus cover video of devil went down to georgia?
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This was sent to me from a friend via e-mail. I liked it and agree with the sentiment. Except the Pro Life part... I am Pro Choice.
Uh, what exactly is there to agree with?

The lies about Democrats wanting to completely defund the military, drop all trade restrictions, stop all foreign aid, and bring the armed forces home from every nation they're currently stationed in?

The idiotic suggestion we get our foregin policy from farmers and overworked truck drivers?

The lie that anyone who criticizes Bush (Sean Penn) is a traitor?

Again I ask the question, just how fucking stupid do you have to be to believe that to protect America you mush squash free speech in the name of Patriotism? C'mon Turbo, I want to know exactly how the idiotic notion that we should protect the first amendment by eviscerating civil liberties got into your little mind.

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It's funny how it's always 'defending our country' like Saddam is about to send a million troops over the Canadian border. As if Saddam Hussein = Osama Bin Laden, when in reality Bin Laden hates Hussein as a socialist, secular enemy of Islam.

Why do Charlie Daniels and his redneck ilk want to bomb Hussein so bad when China, North Korea, Iran and about a dozen other countries hate us just as bad and are better prepared to do something about it?

Because big daddy George tells them how to hate and they switch on the hate button. These are the same people that would vote in a tyrant, a fucking Hitler, as long as he wrapped himself in the flag, and then they tell us how 'anti-american' we are

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what? no mention of christianity?
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This is Charlie Daniels the right-wing moron country singer. The guy who also believes all of us should be thrown in jail asap, as well as Howard Stern, Seinfeld, the cast of Friends - you know, the evil people of this world.

Here's a quote: "Even the cartoons these days are full of dark figures with supernatural powers and questionable morals."
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Uh, what exactly is there to agree with?

The lies about Democrats wanting to completely defund the military, drop all trade restrictions, stop all foreign aid, and bring the armed forces home from every nation they're currently stationed in?

The idiotic suggestion we get our foregin policy from farmers and overworked truck drivers?

The lie that anyone who criticizes Bush (Sean Penn) is a traitor?

Again I ask the question, just how fucking stupid do you have to be to believe that to protect America you mush squash free speech in the name of Patriotism? C'mon Turbo, I want to know exactly how the idiotic notion got into your mind that we should protect the first amendment and the rest of what the US stands for by eviscerating civil liberties made its way into your little mind.
Whoah dude.. I said I agree with the sentiment... Maybe I perceived what this was saying differently than you. I'm just tired of all these anti war people lately... Where are they when there is no anti war bandwagon to jump on? Are they helping the homeless, or the poor, or the disenfranchised? Not that I can see.

Also, just because everyone hates George Bush, that doesn't make Sadam innocent.
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and just who IS innocent? are we going to go after every sadistic tyrant in the world now? what about the ones we put in power ourselves?
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Also, just because everyone hates George Bush, that doesn't make Sadam innocent.
And there's your answer.
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and just who IS innocent? are we going to go after every sadistic tyrant in the world now? what about the ones we put in power ourselves?
We must go after them all. Kill 'em all!
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I'm just tired of all these anti war people lately... Where are they when there is no anti war bandwagon to jump on?
If you can't handle living in a country where freedom of expression is allowed, stop whining and get the fuck out.

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Are they helping the homeless, or the poor, or the disenfranchised? Not that I can see.
You haven't even looked, dipshit.

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and just who IS innocent? are we going to go after every sadistic tyrant in the world now? what about the ones we put in power ourselves?
Sadam has threatened to use biological warfare on the US. Did we put Sadam in power?

Imagine this scenario:

Someone releases small pox in a city like Los Angeles... how long do you think it would take to spread throughout the world? I think you can realistically assume that at least one infected person would land in an airport in almost every city in the world within 24 hours. Then what? All of a sudden it's the world's problem and not just the US's.
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are we going to go after every sadistic tyrant in the world now?
Lets focus on one tryant at a time.
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Please refer to comment #1.
Yes I have looked. and I have no problem with freedom of expression. You seem to have one, though.

Must you resort to calling me a dipshit to get your point across?
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Someone releases small pox in a city like Los Angeles... how long do you think it would take to spread throughout the world? I think you can realistically assume that at least one infected person would land in an airport in almost every city in the world within 24 hours. Then what? All of a sudden it's the world's problem and not just the US's.
Nope. We can not take preventive measures to secure our safety. That's absolutely ludicrous and isn't fair to other nations. We must wait until our largest cities (New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, etc.) are all hit with biological and chemical agents. Then, after we have suffered a large blow and millions of deaths, including billions of dollars worth of damage, we can step up and defend ourselves.

Smart people always wait to get hit first. It's the diplomatic thing to do.
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Smart people always wait to get hit first. It's the diplomatic thing to do.
Since when does diplomacy = smart?
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Lets focus on one tryant at a time.
Well, duh! Any strategist would tell you to spread your military thin and attack many targets at once. It's the only way to win.
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Lets focus on one tryant at a time.
Shall we rid the world of George Bush first? He's the world's greatest warmonger.
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Sadam has threatened to use biological warfare on the US. Did we put Sadam in power?

Imagine this scenario:

Someone releases small pox in a city like Los Angeles... how long do you think it would take to spread throughout the world? I think you can realistically assume that at least one infected person would land in an airport in almost every city in the world within 24 hours. Then what? All of a sudden it's the world's problem and not just the US's.
WE gave him those weapons and their delivery systems. Now he's the most evil person in the world because he has them?

Hussein isn't known for terrorist activity, our allies the Saudi's are far more deeply involved than the Iraqi govt. is in rewarding and protecting terrorists. Why aren't you screaming for the Saudi prince's head? Iran actually HAS a nuclear weapons program, as do the North Koreans. Iran is Iraq's bitter enemy btw, since we gave Saddam his chemical weapons to use on them, and they hate us too naturally.

what does small pox in LA have to do with Saddam Hussein? I could use the same argument to go after Pat Robertson and take out a bigger threat to the American way of life at the same time. One has nothing to do with the other.
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WE gave him those weapons and their delivery systems. Now he's the most evil person in the world because he has them?

We also trained Osama bin Laden at one point in time.

We all know how he turned out to be such an angel.
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Nope. We can not take preventive measures to secure our safety. That's absolutely ludicrous and isn't fair to other nations. We must wait until our largest cities (New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, etc.) are all hit with biological and chemical agents. Then, after we have suffered a large blow and millions of deaths, including billions of dollars worth of damage, we can step up and defend ourselves.

Smart people always wait to get hit first. It's the diplomatic thing to do.
China hates us just as bad and has nuclear bombs that can hit anywhere in the US. They don't like us. They have a bigger army than we do. Why don't we do a pre-emptive strike on them?

A pre-emptive strike is another word for an invasion of a foreign country, spending massive amounts of american money and wasting american lives, and not too long ago the US was making treaties with other nations to thwart warlike nations with invasion on their mind. Now we ARE that nation, and I don't like the change.
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We also trained Osama bin Laden at one point in time.

We all know how he turned out to be such an angel.
maybe if we weren't so intent on deciding the elections of other countries for them and installing the leaders WE choose we wouldn't have to worry quite as much about our pet sadists coming back to bite us in our ass.
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China hates us just as bad and has nuclear bombs that can hit anywhere in the US. They don't like us. They have a bigger army than we do. Why don't we do a pre-emptive strike on them?

A pre-emptive strike is another word for an invasion of a foreign country, spending massive amounts of american money and wasting american lives, and not too long ago the US was making treaties with other nations to thwart warlike nations with invasion on their mind. Now we ARE that nation, and I don't like the change.
in fact, why don't we just nuke the Middle East, East Central Europe, Africa and the Far East out of existence since we have enemies in all those regions? WW III is just a sound defensive posture according to your logic, kill em all and let God sort em out.

Won't that be a wonderful world to live in? Will you be proud to be an American, the land of the free and champion of the oppressed?
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maybe if we weren't so intent on deciding the elections of other countries for them and installing the leaders WE choose we wouldn't have to worry quite as much about our pet sadists coming back to bite us in our ass.
So do you maintain that your argument of "we gave Iraq weapons, therefore we can never wish him out of power" is lame?

Good. Thought so.
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in fact, why don't we just nuke the Middle East, East Central Europe, Africa and the Far East out of existence since we have enemies in all those regions? WW III is just a sound defensive posture according to your logic, kill em all and let God sort em out.

Won't that be a wonderful world to live in? Will you be proud to be an American, the land of the free and champion of the oppressed?
Sounds good to me! Let's go! The fuck do I know anyway? I'm just another Rush listening, Fox News watching, O'Reilly loving, Bible thumper anyway.

I'm a sheep and so is everyone who agrees with me. Baaaaa!
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no. my argument is that we don't have the high road, this shit is OUR fault, and it's wrong to give a country chemical weapons and then blow them off the map because they have chemical weapons, and our president needs something to distract from a fucked economy and a pretext for stripping us of our civil rights, which is what we fought to get and keep for the last 200 years. I'm not giving them away to some ex-cokehead C student in order to prop up the oil industry.

I don't know what they taught in your high school civics classes, but we're supposed to be the GOOD guys.
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Sounds good to me! Let's go! The fuck do I know anyway? I'm just another Rush listening, Fox News watching, O'Reilly loving, Bible thumper anyway.

I'm a sheep and so is everyone who agrees with me. Baaaaa!
if you unconditionally swallow what you're told by our semi-elected government that's a fact.

Rush Limbaugh outright lies on every single broadcast he's ever made, conservatives don't give a fuck. You don't seem to give a shit what your leaders do, who they throw in jail, what laws they pass, how much bullshit they feed you, as long as you can strut like a cowboy and hardy fucking har over how stupid us PETA loving, utopia wanting liberals are
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I don't know what they taught in your high school civics classes, but we're supposed to be the GOOD guys.
Yeh, I was taught that, too. However, being the "good" guys always leads to meddling in someone's affairs. Whether it be Israel, Iraq, China, or Japan. Being good to one country always leads to being bad to another country.

That's how it works. In a perfect world everyone gets along great and they always see eye to eye. As a successful businessmen, you know that this certainly isn't the case.
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if you unconditionally swallow what you're told by our semi-elected government that's a fact.

Rush Limbaugh outright lies on every single broadcast he's ever made, conservatives don't give a fuck. You don't seem to give a shit what your leaders do, who they throw in jail, what laws they pass, how much bullshit they feed you, as long as you can strut like a cowboy and hardy fucking har over how stupid us PETA loving, utopia wanting liberals are
"You" I'm assuming isn't referring to me. I mean, it WOULD be awful hard for you to "stereotype" me when you don't even know me. You aren't stereotyping me, are you?
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Old 03-14-2003, 10:37 PM   #38
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Yeh, I was taught that, too. However, being the "good" guys always leads to meddling in someone's affairs. Whether it be Israel, Iraq, China, or Japan. Being good to one country always leads to being bad to another country.

That's how it works. In a perfect world everyone gets along great and they always see eye to eye. As a successful businessmen, you know that this certainly isn't the case.
you choose your meddling wisely and don't cater to dictators when you want to be a good guy. All nations have the right of self-determination. You can't claim it for yourself and deny it to everyone else because the balance of power ALWAYS shifts sooner or later and payment always comes due.

I'm going to Starbucks to sip cappucino and read Noam Chomsky.
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Old 03-14-2003, 10:39 PM   #39
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"You" I'm assuming isn't referring to me. I mean, it WOULD be awful hard for you to "stereotype" me when you don't even know me. You aren't stereotyping me, are you?
'You' in this case is the generic collective pronoun for all ditto-heads and facists who think they're being patriotic.
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Better to stop a problem while it is small than let it become a big problem.
I agree. Lets kill him now before he becomes any more dangerous.

George Bush that is.
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Old 03-14-2003, 10:42 PM   #41
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China hates us just as bad and has nuclear bombs that can hit anywhere in the US. They don't like us. They have a bigger army than we do. Why don't we do a pre-emptive strike on them?
Same reason the US never went to war with the Soviets: mutually assured destruction. Even though US and Chinese policy is very different, they are major trading partners and not prone to irrational acts.
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'You' in this case is the generic collective pronoun for all ditto-heads and facists who think they're being patriotic.
But don't they have the right to be fascist ditto-heads? I mean come on, don't we have a right to believe in what we wish? Isn't that what our military fought for several hundred years ago?

Although, they were meddling in other affairs. They went too far and stole land that wasn't theirs, all for personal/political gain. They even killed natives, raped their resources, and pressed on for even more. Pure greed. We should all be back in Europe.
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'You' in this case is the generic collective pronoun for all ditto-heads and facists who think they're being patriotic.
That's as opposed the 'you' who is a generic collective pronoun for all peacenik hippies and left-wing anti-war protesters who think they're being compassionate and independant thinkers.
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I agree. Lets kill him now before he becomes any more dangerous.

George Bush that is.
You'd better be careful. Even in AU you might have the secret service knocking on your door for a comment like that.
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You'd better be careful. Even in AU you might have the secret service knocking on your door for a comment like that.
Oooooooooohhhhhhh....

Da big bad secret service is gonna come get Joe Sixpack!

Yeah, right.
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You'd better be careful. Even in AU you might have the secret service knocking on your door for a comment like that.
Nah, Joe is harmless. He couldn't kill anyone. Just a big talker. Serge found that out a week or so ago.
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Nah, Joe is harmless. He couldn't kill anyone. Just a big talker. Serge found that out a week or so ago.
And how did Serge find that out?

Elaborate please...

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But don't they have the right to be fascist ditto-heads? I mean come on, don't we have a right to believe in what we wish? Isn't that what our military fought for several hundred years ago?

Although, they were meddling in other affairs. They went too far and stole land that wasn't theirs, all for personal/political gain. They even killed natives, raped their resources, and pressed on for even more. Pure greed. We should all be back in Europe.
no. you have the right to swing your foot as much as you want, until it makes contact with my ass. The laws being passed right now are taking away MY rights because YOU are easily propagandized.
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And how did Serge find that out?

Elaborate please...
When you went off after his uncalled for comments about your wife. The same comments you made about those who died on September 11th, 2001. Remember now? Talk a lot of shit until it hits home.

Bummer.
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no. you have the right to swing your foot as much as you want, until it makes contact with my ass. The laws being passed right now are taking away MY rights because YOU are easily propagandized.
Sweet. Then I guess I have the right to say the Pledge of Allegiance in class. Pray in class. I'm not touching anyone, so it's all good. Hooray!

And which of YOUR rights are being taken away because I'M easily propagandized? There you go making silly judgments again. Tsk tsk. Didn't they teach you in school it's not right to judge others?
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