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The Porn Nerd · 08-19-2013, 09:56 AM

Being a former journalist (shocking, I know) I have a very intimate relationship with 'facts'. Specifically, what are and what are not "facts".

Example (and test): the time (as of me typing this) is 12:54 pm. Now, is this a "fact"?

Trick question. Yes and no. YES it's a "fact" if we take the information on it's face value (meaning, you believe what I say; but I may be lying). Can it be verified? So NO it's not a "fact" because it cannot be verified AND (here's my fave part of this example/test) it may be 12:54 pm HERE but is it 12:54 pm where YOU are? (Again, yes and no, time is 'simultaneous' yet also relative, depending on how you look at it).

So if we cannot even determine whether TIME is (or is not) "fact" then how on Earth can we determine what anyone says in the Adult Industry is (or is not) "fact"? We can't. Post whatever source you want, however many statistics and anecdotes, and still it does not paint an accurate picture. We do not work in a fact-verifiable Industry.

As the saying goes: "You are entitled to your own opinions but you are not entitled to your own facts.*"

*Unless you work in the Adult Industry. LOL

Scott McD · 08-19-2013, 10:05 AM

_Richard_ · 08-19-2013, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD

seeandsee · 08-19-2013, 10:08 AM

Fact is i dont have fact about clue what is this about

J. Falcon · 08-19-2013, 10:09 AM

Facts are sacred.

escorpio · 08-19-2013, 10:22 AM

Facts are simple and facts are straight
Facts are lazy and facts are late
Facts all come with points of view
Facts don't do what I want them to

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Best-In-BC · 08-19-2013, 10:34 AM

I'm right you're wrong.

madeofmoney · 08-19-2013, 11:05 AM

Fact - Lots of the videos in the Asian category on Spankwire are yours. How much is Fabian paying you to play hater? Lol.

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The Porn Nerd · 08-19-2013, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madeofmoney

Fact - Lots of the videos in the Asian category on Spankwire are yours. How much is Fabian paying you to play hater? Lol.

Not enough. LOL He's an affiliate but that's about it.

Captain Kawaii · 08-19-2013, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madeofmoney

Fact - Lots of the videos in the Asian category on Spankwire are yours. How much is Fabian paying you to play hater? Lol.

- Streammate is riding him like a burro as well.

bigluv · 08-19-2013, 02:31 PM

You missed the "perhaps Peabody is telling the truth as he knows it but is just misinformed" angle.

You suggest the adult industry is somewhere that facts mostly don't apply, like that's some kind of exception. Really though, there are very few places capital F facts apply.

I think everyone understands that there are degrees of certainty and informedness that accrue to bits of information like their provenance. How was the information gathered, how were the assumptions made, what sanity checking was used, is this a reliable first person source, how many links down the chain of provenance are we, etc.

Now that you mention it, I guess some people here actually don't understand that stuff.

Either way everyone uses "facts" as shorthand for "item of information that I happen to BELIEVE" rather than the more scientific rigorous use of the word.

Really, one can know very few things with much certainty. Not sure where you are going with this.

The Porn Nerd · 08-19-2013, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigluv

You missed the "perhaps Peabody is telling the truth as he knows it but is just misinformed" angle.

You suggest the adult industry is somewhere that facts mostly don't apply, like that's some kind of exception. Really though, there are very few places capital F facts apply.

I think everyone understands that there are degrees of certainty and informedness that accrue to bits of information like their provenance. How was the information gathered, how were the assumptions made, what sanity checking was used, is this a reliable first person source, how many links down the chain of provenance are we, etc.

Now that you mention it, I guess some people here actually don't understand that stuff.

Either way everyone uses "facts" as shorthand for "item of information that I happen to BELIEVE" rather than the more scientific rigorous use of the word.

Really, one can know very few things with much certainty. Not sure where you are going with this.

EXCELLENT post - you "get it" - so I will tell you where I'm going with this:

People tend to post "proof" that they consider "facts" to support their own personal experiences (and opinions) then come on GFY (and yes, elsewhere) to expouse their 'facts' in an effort to convince other people of their point of view. But the 'facts' these GFY posters use to bolster their cases? Limited or distorted 'facts' that usually end up being opinion or skewed anecdotal evidence. In other words, useless.

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The Porn Nerd Living The Dream Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Inside a Monitor Posts: 19,600	Fact: There ARE NO FACTS. Relax People. Being a former journalist (shocking, I know) I have a very intimate relationship with 'facts'. Specifically, what are and what are not "facts". Example (and test): the time (as of me typing this) is 12:54 pm. Now, is this a "fact"? Trick question. Yes and no. YES it's a "fact" if we take the information on it's face value (meaning, you believe what I say; but I may be lying). Can it be verified? So NO it's not a "fact" because it cannot be verified AND (here's my fave part of this example/test) it may be 12:54 pm HERE but is it 12:54 pm where YOU are? (Again, yes and no, time is 'simultaneous' yet also relative, depending on how you look at it). So if we cannot even determine whether TIME is (or is not) "fact" then how on Earth can we determine what anyone says in the Adult Industry is (or is not) "fact"? We can't. Post whatever source you want, however many statistics and anecdotes, and still it does not paint an accurate picture. We do not work in a fact-verifiable Industry. As the saying goes: "You are entitled to your own opinions but you are not entitled to your own facts." Unless you work in the Adult Industry. LOL __________________ My Affiliate Programs: Porn Nerd Cash \| Porn Showcase \| Aggressive Gold Over 90 paysites to promote! Now on Teams: peabodymedia

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bigluv Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 850	You missed the "perhaps Peabody is telling the truth as he knows it but is just misinformed" angle. You suggest the adult industry is somewhere that facts mostly don't apply, like that's some kind of exception. Really though, there are very few places capital F facts apply. I think everyone understands that there are degrees of certainty and informedness that accrue to bits of information like their provenance. How was the information gathered, how were the assumptions made, what sanity checking was used, is this a reliable first person source, how many links down the chain of provenance are we, etc. Now that you mention it, I guess some people here actually don't understand that stuff. Either way everyone uses "facts" as shorthand for "item of information that I happen to BELIEVE" rather than the more scientific rigorous use of the word. Really, one can know very few things with much certainty. Not sure where you are going with this. Last edited by bigluv; 08-19-2013 at 02:36 PM..