Chronig Step Inside Please and Explain

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Another Ex-GF site without 2257 docs, or even proper 2257 contact info - go figure...

Chronig, I personally know, and have worked with the girl in the following photo set posted on your Slut Leech site, and I'm reasonably sure those images are NOT covered by any form of 2257 documentation:

Amanda told me that she did not authorize these photos to be released.

If you think I am bluffing, here are some legal photos that I took of her:

Some ADG Amanda pix

I shot her soon after she turned 18, and I had to wait for weeks to shoot her in order for her to get a state-issued ID to shoot (I even drove her to the DMV to submit her documents and get her ID photo shot), since she didn't have a driver's license or state issued ID at the time - the pix that are on your site were shot prior to the pix on my site (tats don't lie - and she got way more ink soon after shooting with me).

You might want to take those pix down...

ADG

[epitome]

If true, firstly that is horrible and secondly, I hope he hasn't pissed off the wrong person or they can cause a shit storm. Doesn't he troll here a lot?

ADG, you may want to ask Eric to remove the link if you're saying what I think you're saying.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by epitome

If true, firstly that is horrible and secondly, I hope he hasn't pissed off the wrong person or they can cause a shit storm. Doesn't he troll here a lot?

ADG, you may want to ask Eric to remove the link if you're saying what I think you're saying.

I don't know exactly when those pix posted on Chronig's site were shot, however I know of at least one tat that was not there in the first set, which was there when I shot her within months of her 18th birthday.

What my post was about is that she did not have a 2257 legally acceptable form of ID when she first contacted me about shooting for my site.

Therefore, before I would shoot her, I had her obtain her birth certificate, and other documentation, which the DMV requires in order for them to issue anyone a legal ID.

Only after receiving it, did we shoot. I would not have shot her without it.

She was quite distraught when she saw the photos on Chronig's site were released on the internet. She subsequently quit modeling.

The Ex-GF market is a perilous one to say the least, with lots of people trying to make a quick buck off of possibly stolen/illegal content.

What Chronig should do is check to ensure that the "member" that suposedly uploaded those pix has a release and 2257 docs, or be prepared to face the consequences of failing to do so.

In essence, by offering people that upload something of value (in this case site membership), in exchange for their posting content, he may have entered into a form of business relationship with them that potentially makes him a party to any legal action taken as a result of the photos being posted on his site.

If indeed she is found to have been underage, he is screwed, regardless. That is certainly not a risk I would be willing to entertain. I would be checking for 2257 docs immediately if I were him, and as an extra measure, I would remove the content in question until I was absolutely positive it is legal, both for age and 2257 requirements.

I don't hide behind weak interpretations of the law, nothing is posted on any of my sites without 2257 docs, period.

Chronig might want to tighten up his 2257 statement while he's at it...

ADG

[BVF]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

:

Amanda told me that she did not authorize these photos to be released.

Slutleech.com?



So Chronig, you had the audacity to criticize my website and you run some BULLSHIT like that?....GTFOH

I'm not going to even bother looking up the Alexa on that pile of poodle vomit.

[carzygirls]

something brewing here for sureQ!

[munki]

no bueno...

[BVF]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

If indeed she is found to have been underage, he is screwed, regardless.

[fris]

poodle vomit is funny

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by carzygirls

something brewing here for sureQ!

I have no axe to grind with Chronig - never met the man or conducted any business with him.

His site only came to my attention when he got into a beef with someone else in another thread, so I took at look at his site. I click on the Asian category (as I am wont to do), and lo and behold, the first photo set which comes up is the photo set in question - hence this thread.

Personally, I hate it when girls (in their naivete) feel compelled to leave, or are driven out of the industry due to family/peer pressure, because people shoot supposedly private pixs, but then subsequently publicly release the photos/video, without regards to the negative personal impact on the model involved, even in circumstances when the shooter has no valid release or 2257 ID photos - unfortunately, I have seen it happen more than once.

That's it, plain and simple. No grudge here.

ADG

[BIGTYMER]

Interesting site.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

Interesting site.

Yeah, nothing more interesting than a cookie cutter fake Ex-GF site, loaded with questionable content...



There is somebody on GFY still selling that type of site as I seem to recall.

ADG

[The Porn Nerd]

What? I am shocked ADG, SHOCKED!!
You know, you could tell in his choice of Avatars, really....:D

[charlie g]

Really cute girl...too bad she left the biz

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

What? I am shocked ADG, SHOCKED!!
You know, you could tell in his choice of Avatars, really....:D

Not sure what his Avatar is - care to share?

Originally Posted by charlie g

Really cute girl...too bad she left the biz

Tell me about it...Amanda had a great work ethic, plus lots of spunk and character. She really had tons of potential.

Her ultimate goal was to be an architect. My Dad was an architect, so I wish her good luck in achieving her dream...

ADG

[lazycash]

Originally Posted by BVF

Slutleech.com?



So Chronig, you had the audacity to criticize my website and you run some BULLSHIT like that?....GTFOH

I'm not going to even bother looking up the Alexa on that pile of poodle vomit.

[PornMD]

Bump for answers.

[Randy West]

Reported to the FBI

[BIGTYMER]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Yeah, nothing more interesting than a cookie cutter fake Ex-GF site, loaded with questionable content...

It doesn't look cookie cutter to me. I haven't seen any other exgf sites that were blog paysites. Maybe you have but I haven't.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by PornMD

Bump for answers.

Originally Posted by Randy West

Reported to the FBI

Called out - Cut out...Hardly surprising...

Crazy thing is, he should easily be able to clear this up if he, his site, and pix questioned, were all legit.



ADG

[epitome]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

I don't know exactly when those pix posted on Chronig's site were shot, however I know of at least one tat that was not there in the first set, which was there when I shot her within months of her 18th birthday.

What my post was about is that she did not have a 2257 legally acceptable form of ID when she first contacted me about shooting for my site.

Therefore, before I would shoot her, I had her obtain her birth certificate, and other documentation, which the DMV requires in order for them to issue anyone a legal ID.

Only after receiving it, did we shoot. I would not have shot her without it.

She was quite distraught when she saw the photos on Chronig's site were released on the internet. She subsequently quit modeling.

The Ex-GF market is a perilous one to say the least, with lots of people trying to make a quick buck off of possibly stolen/illegal content.

What Chronig should do is check to ensure that the "member" that suposedly uploaded those pix has a release and 2257 docs, or be prepared to face the consequences of failing to do so.

In essence, by offering people that upload something of value (in this case site membership), in exchange for their posting content, he may have entered into a form of business relationship with them that potentially makes him a party to any legal action taken as a result of the photos being posted on his site.

If indeed she is found to have been underage, he is screwed, regardless. That is certainly not a risk I would be willing to entertain. I would be checking for 2257 docs immediately if I were him, and as an extra measure, I would remove the content in question until I was absolutely positive it is legal, both for age and 2257 requirements.

I don't hide behind weak interpretations of the law, nothing is posted on any of my sites without 2257 docs, period.

Chronig might want to tighten up his 2257 statement while he's at it...

ADG

But wait, you shot her shortly after she turned 18 and in the photos she says she did not consent to, she has less tats than when you shot her? Please correct me if I miss understood.

Maybe she used the money you paid her to get tattoos removed!

[V_RocKs]

Underage doesn't even matter. The docs have to be there either way and if he didn't obtain the pics legally I doubt he has the docs.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by epitome

But wait, you shot her shortly after she turned 18 and in the photos she says she did not consent to, she has less tats than when you shot her? Please correct me if I miss understood.

Maybe she used the money you paid her to get tattoos removed!

If anything, she used the money she made from me (and we shot multiple times), to get more tattoos (the very big, noticeable, and practically impossible to cover or remove, type of tats - which I encouraged her not to get).

Another ADG Amanda Set

Chronig, come out, come out, wherever you are...

For a guy that usually has a lot to say, you suddenly don't seem to have much to say.

A redacted 2257 photo can easily put this all to rest, if you and your "Member" that supposedly uploaded the photo session in question (which your site is hiding behind), are legit that is.

I will be quick to absolve you of any wrongdoing here, if you can post any proof whatsoever that you have 2257 documentation for the model involved.

ADG

[DamianJ]

ruh roh...

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

ruh roh...

Ruh Roh indeed...



ADG

[d-null]

off topic bump, is this one of your models?

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by d-null

off topic bump, is this one of your models?

On topic - Yes, Demonika is one of the models that shot exclusive pix/vids for my ADG site.

ADG

[Stacks Banned for Life]

Originally Posted by BVF

Slutleech.com?



So Chronig, you had the audacity to criticize my website and you run some BULLSHIT like that?....GTFOH

I'm not going to even bother looking up the Alexa on that pile of poodle vomit.

we got love for u in the gfy hood

[d-null]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

On topic - Yes, Demonika is one of the models that shot exclusive pix/vids for my ADG site[/URL].

ADG

I love the photography on that, beautiful blacks of the hair and outfit and props contrasting with the skin and lips

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by Stacks

we got love for u in the gfy hood

Thanks, and I truly appreciate that, although I am more curious about what Chronig has to say.

Originally Posted by d-null

I love the photography on that, beautiful blacks of the hair and outfit and props contrasting with the skin and lips

Demonika (aka Goddess Miki) is a baddass real-life dom (with a degree in Psychology), she can hurt you so bad/good:

More Demonika

You want more Demonika - you got it!!!

ADG

[d-null]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Demonika (aka Goddess Miki) is a baddass real-life dom (with a degree in Psychology), she can hurt you so bad/good:

More Demonika

You want more Demonika - you got it!!!

ADG

beautiful, I like how she can look so "asian girl next door friendly and smiling" in one pic and "cold as ice wicked mean" in the next, and it comes across so convincing... good stuff!

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by d-null

beautiful, I like how she can look so "asian girl next door friendly and smiling" in one pic and "cold as ice wicked mean" in the next, and it comes across so convincing... good stuff!

With Demonika/Goddess Miki, it is not an act, that really is the way she is...

And I love her for it! I've learned alot about the "lifestyle" from her.

She speaks perfect English, but I recall one day when we went into a San Francisco Pho (Vietnamese noodle) shop, and I was surprised (although maybe I shouldn't have been) that she started chatting fluently in Vietnamese. I had worked with her and known her for a few years, and so it never occurred to me that she could switch so casually to Vietnamese.

I have also seen her cane, and cock and ball torture guys, so I assure you she is the real deal when it comes to doms - she keeps wanting to kick my ass, but I'm a wimp when it comes to that kind of stuff.

ADG

[d-null]

do you speak any vietnamese or cantonese? would come in handy in your niche

[Waiter]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

On topic - Yes, Demonika is one of the models that shot exclusive pix/vids for my ADG site.

ADG

she's so hot

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by d-null

do you speak any vietnamese or cantonese? would come in handy in your niche

I'm fairly proficient in Japanese, and barely get by in Cantonese, Mandarin, and Tagalog.

For me, it's more about understanding and appreciating the various Asian cultures, and as a person whom has studied Asian history and culture, and lived in and traveled Asia extensively, I am quite comfortable in my niche.

I've mentioned it here before, but I grew up and came of age sexually in Hawaii, then lived in Japan for five years, and have traveled throughout most of Asia for much of my adult life.

The only one whom compares to me in that regard on GFY that I am aware of is DWB, who is truly one of the wildest (and craziest) people in this industry, as well as most outspoken - and it's a small surprise that I like and respect Robbie, the redneck DWB, equally for his similar qualities, with regards to sex, sexuality, and the industry.

ADG

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

It's been nearly 24 hours since I first posted about this issue, and still no response from Chronig...



ADG

[Agent 488]

maybe she uploaded them herself.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

maybe she uploaded them herself.

Yeah, like a fake (staged) suicide...

Let me see if I understand you correctly, she didn't want to make any money from the pix, and by uploading them herself, she could use that as an excuse to quit pursuing her love of modeling due to the ridicule and anguish directed at her from classmates and family.

Interesting theory...

ADG

[anexsia]

Where's he at? Chronig is usually always posting here...

[chronig]

Missed this thread - post removed

[JustDaveXxx]

WOW!! I rather be called out on this board by ADG, so i have a chance to correct the situation(i would never post content with out 2257 docs) by taking down the content, than get called out by the police any day of the week.




On GFY, you may get "ripped" by others for your mistake. In jail you will get "rapped" by Bubba and turned into an ass factory for the general population!!






Chronig, i wouldn't be mad at ADG, i would be thankful.

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by chronig

Missed this thread - post removed

thread closed.

[Randy West]

I had an agent call me from the FBI today. I have forwarded all of the information. This is uncalled for.

[ArsewithClass]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

thread closed.

thread reopened

[chronig]

Originally Posted by Randy West

I had an agent call me from the FBI today. I have forwarded all of the information. This is uncalled for.

[Randy West]

Originally Posted by chronig

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by chronig

Missed this thread - post removed

Thanks for removing that content.



I would ban the "member" that submitted it, but that's just me...

ADG

[chronig]

Sorry about that - it's not our intention to use studio made content - just genuine amateur user-submitted content. Usually I can tell the difference between a legit self shot and a pro shoot, but some some producers/models are doing a good job of mimicking homemade stuff.

[d-null]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

ADG

she speaks vietnamese too

[BVF]

Originally Posted by chronig

Missed this thread - post removed

I screencapped it....Time to hit up your local FBI office.

[JustDaveXxx]

Originally Posted by chronig

Sorry about that - it's not our intention to use studio made content - just genuine amateur user-submitted content. Usually I can tell the difference between a legit self shot and a pro shoot, but some some producers/models are doing a good job of mimicking homemade stuff.

Im not trying to troll you or fight with you, but i think you missed the point of this thread.


ADG made references, through his experiences working with that particular girl, that the girl may have been under the age of 18 when the content on your site was shot.


If her being under age is in fact true, you could be jailed for position and distribution of child porn. Nothing you can say would keep you from being fined or jailed if not both from happening if the authorities checked your site out.



ADG did not make any claim that you stole any content from any studio. He gave you a courteous heads up to your potential problem if you chose not to remove that particular scene.


This post is just an FYI. And hopefully this post helps you identify potential problems with some ex-girlfrind type sites. 2257 contracts are a must!!!



Glad you got it resolved.