Webcam performers running looped recordings

[Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE]

What are your thoughts on this?
Seems that you could run a studio very easily,
with a little automation and cooperative girls.
After all, people are monstrous idiots.

[2MuchMark]

Knock yourself out.

[Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE]

No need but thanks.

[XSAXS]

Theoretical genius.

In real life, I don't think it wouldn't pay very well though.

If the girl never chats or interacts, the viewer will split in 2 mins. Then if your "girls" get too many complaints, you could catch hell from the cam provider.

Not saying it can't work. Just saying it might be tricky to pull it off convincingly.

[cashbizdude]

I don't think it would work. Monstrous idiots or not they tend to watch what they are jerking off to pretty closely. No matter how good the loop is people are going to catch on.

[DBS.US]

You should open a strip club and use robots

[CPA37710T]

i personally think that the creator of this thread have no idea what he is talking about. Mounstrous idiots are for me clients, and they need to get their money worth, if everyone thinks this way then porn online would be all about quality and not about freebies, but sadly thats not the case. people who refer to clients like this are saturating the adult business and giving a real bad name

[raymor]

You'd probably need to run looped chat to go with it so it looks like the chick is interacting with guys and in the loop have her not adress any guy by name, so the mark thinks some of her responses are addressed to him.

Of course a good chat bot, Spacedog might spend an hour talking to the loop.

[CPA37710T]

plus in case people who read this didnt know, recordings on live chat porn is very common, but that doesnt convert as much as having a real girl.. again shame on that idea

[Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE]

There is no shame in the idea, and I know plenty on the topic.
The way it works is making money from smaller, more frequent sums.

Key ingredient is above average women. I've seen this working.

So even a less dedicated fan base on a 100 model
studio is going to do better than a handful of "real" girls.

Furthermore the interaction can be automated with
key word lists and general banter as raymor knows.

It's practical, but indeed theoretical but i'd bet long loops of grievously hot women matched to an AI chat bot,
would provide an infinite growth approach to the idea.

[BIGTYMER]

I see idiots tip recordings all the time.

[xNetworx]

short term maybe, long term... fuck no

[CPA37710T]

but its nothing new.. and yes tips.. theres no money on tips.. money is on privates and retention.. i always tell my girls to make the customer fall in love.. a one time session is worthless, a customer in love will always become a whale

[adendreams]

I helped create the most sophisticated - fool anyone, even you - cam bot ever.. You guys who dont think bots are realistic or a good biz model are delusional.

[Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE]

What he said and like I said. People are monstrous idiots.
In fact fuck that, society teaches people to learn to love being lied too.

Look at the ring tone market, look at the fact the average person is poor, wants cams, and has 2 minutes to spend beating off as fast as humanely possible.

The love seekers are the not the market for doing this.
It's a numbers game and the advantage is replacing a human with a piece of software.
2 hour loops and Ai anyone ?

Originally Posted by adendreams

I helped create the most sophisticated - fool anyone, even you - cam bot ever.. You guys who dont think bots are realistic or a good biz model are delusional.

Someone.

[georgeyw]

Originally Posted by adendreams

I helped create the most sophisticated - fool anyone, even you - cam bot ever.. You guys who dont think bots are realistic or a good biz model are delusional.

Show us an example.

I have only ever noticed extreme annoyance from an audience once they reaslise it is a loop.

[CPA37710T]

i have no doubt that bots work in a magnificent way but as "strippercash" says its just short term, and short term is just pennies, if you're in the big league i insist.. you look for whales not for just a punk trying to impress spending 50 bucks

[Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE]

I doubt he is any more inclined to reveal his bot platform that I am george.

[Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by CPA37710T

i have no doubt that bots work in a magnificent way but as "strippercash" says its just short term, and short term is just pennies, if you're in the big league i insist.. you look for whales not for just a punk trying to impress spending 50 bucks

Few whales but many fish.

[CPA37710T]

i knew i was getting that answer, but still.. different ways, same goal.. make money!

[2MuchMark]

Ok my reply was too short. Let's put this idea to rest right away.

Anyone who under estimates the end user is making a big mistake. Live video chat is much less about porn, and alot more about personal interaction. Customers care less about big tits and sex toys and alot more about making a personal connection with the chat model as a part of an overall GFE Experience or fantasy.

I've seen too many beautiful chat models fail because they push and push for tips and private chats then go immediately into DP without even considering what the customers really want. They hang out for 2 seconds and then leave when ignored.

If you try to run recorded video and pass it off as live chats, your chargeback rates will be high and your biller will drop you, pure and simple.

[CPA37710T]

Originally Posted by **********

Ok my reply was too short. Let's put this idea to rest right away.

Anyone who under estimates the end user is making a big mistake. Live video chat is much less about porn, and alot more about personal interaction. Customers care less about big tits and sex toys and alot more about making a personal connection with the chat model as a part of an overall GFE Experience or fantasy.

I've seen too many beautiful chat models fail because they push and push for tips and private chats then go immediately into DP without even considering what the customers really want. They hang out for 2 seconds and then leave when ignored.

If you try to run recorded video and pass it off as live chats, your chargeback rates will be high and your biller will drop you, pure and simple.

********** knows better

[Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by **********

Ok my reply was too short. Let's put this idea to rest right away.

Anyone who under estimates the end user is making a big mistake. Live video chat is much less about porn, and alot more about personal interaction. Customers care less about big tits and sex toys and alot more about making a personal connection with the chat model as a part of an overall GFE Experience or fantasy.

I've seen too many beautiful chat models fail because they push and push for tips and private chats then go immediately into DP without even considering what the customers really want. They hang out for 2 seconds and then leave when ignored.

If you try to run recorded video and pass it off as live chats, your chargeback rates will be high and your biller will drop you, pure and simple.

It is a personal connection yes and a graphical one. Hence viability.
Most don't chat and most performers are not native English speakers.
The point is that the attraction is much more basic than language Mark,
and on such a primal level fantasies are more easily manipulated.

Plus you have a vested interest in preserving the model, so to speak.
I could give a fuck less and could see fake cams sites right undercutting "real" ones.

[CPA37710T]

Originally Posted by Terrorist

It is a personal connection yes and a graphical one. Hence viability.
Most don't chat and most performers are not native English speakers.
The point is that the attraction is much more basic than language Mark,
and on such a primal level fantasies are more easily manipulated.

Plus you have a vested interest in preserving the model, so to speak.
I could give a fuck less and could see fake cams sites right undercutting "real" ones.

terrorist i have no intention to tell you that you're wrong cause any idea in this business is very valuable if well used... (dunno if that was well said im not a native english speaker)... anyway, what ********** is saying is a fact on how this business work, we want to attract long time customers, just like a regular store, we want this people to come back, a happy customer will always come back for this girl that listens to him and makes a bond with him, the big tit and big ass scheme is way old.. we're looking here for loners, thats what make this business.. not some random idiot paying for a bot. just think about this.. when bots saturate the web a client will search and search for a real model, when he gets to a real model he will feel relief on finding a real girl, they will make fun of the bot and that customer will not go anywhere else just to that model cause shes real, and ll his money will be ours!


yeah kinda long but im drunk so i dont care lol

[alias]

I have seen it but customers figure it out.

[Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by CPA37710T

terrorist i have no intention to tell you that you're wrong cause any idea in this business is very valuable if well used... (dunno if that was well said im not a native english speaker)... anyway, what ********** is saying is a fact on how this business work, we want to attract long time customers, just like a regular store, we want this people to come back, a happy customer will always come back for this girl that listens to him and makes a bond with him, the big tit and big ass scheme is way old.. we're looking here for loners, thats what make this business.. not some random idiot paying for a bot. just think about this.. when bots saturate the web a client will search and search for a real model, when he gets to a real model he will feel relief on finding a real girl, they will make fun of the bot and that customer will not go anywhere else just to that model cause shes real, and ll his money will be ours!


yeah kinda long but im drunk so i dont care lol

All is well, I think it has merit but as a side dish, not the main course.

[lazycash]

[adultmobile]

There are 2 main issues to your business model:

1) The cam sites want you to send the 2257 id's of the models before to open any account, and usually check first stream as confirmation, so you need the girl of the loop video in cam, to register the account.

2) This does not work for private chats at all, but for public chat with tips it may work, until account busted and closed, possibly within a day. Then you go back to point 1) need to open an account and use another girl.

I can say in our tubecamgirl.com we seen just 1 girl do this, I mean send her own clip loop in slow moments or when she goes sleep or shopping. Since she was live the other times it needed a few days for admins to find and disable her account, but it was not like you said a totally fake profile, just she recorded herself for moments she watch tv or whatever.

There may be some sites such as cam4 and chaturbate where you can go online before to send 2257 id's, but I see recordings being flagged by users (it is an option) and even if got tips, may not get paid (probably to get payment you have to send 2257 id's anyway).
so even if you can register a girl and it is not busted immediately, you get busted right before to get paid, this means get paid tips from fake videos it is quite unlikely.

What I see being done mostly, with fake videos, it is advertising other sites. So there's a fake girl with an overlay .com site, some guys go there before the account it is blocked, and it may bring affiliate money.

[adendreams]

You guys who underestimate bots - and think they somehow offer a less realistic or less personal experience... well you are horse and buggy dudes....

[- Jesus Christ -]

This is why I make all my e-girlfriends stick strange objects in their butthole.

[xNetworx]

Originally Posted by adendreams

You guys who underestimate bots - and think they somehow offer a less realistic or less personal experience... well you are horse and buggy dudes....

Are you trolling now?

By definition a bot offers a less realistic and personal experience.

You obviously know very little about cams, or at least cam sites with private chat features.

[Fob]

i've seen many ppl tip a video on mfc..lol

[Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE]

I believe the way they do it is record the first month of the performer for the loops. It's a substantial endeavor no doubt.

[$5 submissions]

Originally Posted by XSAXS

Theoretical genius.

In real life, I don't think it wouldn't pay very well though.

If the girl never chats or interacts, the viewer will split in 2 mins. Then if your "girls" get too many complaints, you could catch hell from the cam provider.

Not saying it can't work. Just saying it might be tricky to pull it off convincingly.

Apparently it works like a charm on yahoo webcam chat rooms for promotions purposes

[rowan]

A loop could work in public chat if the bot was also able to pretend to be a couple of the public users, with everything properly synced to any physical movements in the video. For example...

(fake bot user #2): hey can u wave?
*line is sent a few seconds before the chick in the video waves*
(fake bot user #1): ur hot
(fake camgirl): thanks babe
(fake bot user #2): yea ur so hot babe

etc etc. So to someone watching it actually looks like a plausible realtime chat between the camgirl and a couple of users.

[rowan]

By the way, I run a sex chat bot, and the exact phrase "I came" or "I just came" appears quite frequently in the logs. Both guys and girls. ;)

[acctman]

Originally Posted by Terrorist

What are your thoughts on this?
Seems that you could run a studio very easily,
with a little automation and cooperative girls.
After all, people are monstrous idiots.

yes people are monstrous idiots, run with that idea

[adultmobile]

Originally Posted by rowan

A loop could work in public chat if the bot was also able to pretend to be a couple of the public users, with everything properly synced to any physical movements in the video. For example...

Well if the whole site it is fake and under control of who run the bot, then it is possible to get someone to tip the videos.
Still my point it is, that in real cam sites it is difficult to register an account and to keep it up without being banned, and site will not pay tips even if got any.

[Voodoo]

All ideas do not deserve cookies.

[iSpyCams]

I am about to launch a camsite and I hope all my competitors are using loops and bots. Makes it so much easier for me to compete.

Yeah a lot of people are idiots but the thing about idiots is they are usually broke. As they should be. Be prepared for a lot of "DECLINE 51" in your transaction reports.

[raymor]

In the long run, providing quality is always a better business model.

Originally Posted by StripperCash

Are you trolling now?

By definition a bot offers a less realistic and personal experience.

You obviously know very little about cams, or at least cam sites with private chat features.

Less realistic and personal than WHAT? Than some cam girls? I don't know too many cam girls, but if they are anything like strippers, a good AI bot could provide a more personal experience than some strippets.

[Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by acctman

yes people are monstrous idiots, run with that idea

Monstrous idiots lumber, no need.

[iSpyCams]

Originally Posted by Terrorist

Monstrous idiots lumber, no need.

When in a big hurry they also shamble.

[Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Occasionally they scutter

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by DBS.US

You should open a strip club and use robots

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by DBS.US

You should open a strip club and use robots

[adendreams]

Originally Posted by StripperCash

Are you trolling now?

By definition a bot offers a less realistic and personal experience.

You obviously know very little about cams, or at least cam sites with private chat features.

They thought the earth was flat too.

[r00bz]

ITT webmasters who hate when people steal their content
ITT webmasters trying to steal money from their "monstous stupid" clients

Not all webmasters btw

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by adendreams

You guys who underestimate bots - and think they somehow offer a less realistic or less personal experience... well you are horse and buggy dudes....

So let me ask you a question.

What will your excuse be when a good customer of yours drops hundreds of dollars or more per month on your chat site then charges it all back when he figures out that he was talking to a Bot? How do you plan to explain that to your billing provider? Will you fight the chargeback? Will you scream at the biller on GFY about it?

[Tijuana_Tom]

Webcam sites are definitely using some sort of fake recordings because I see the job postings for people to do the chat.

wtf is the point?