Virgin Riches steal money through FHGs - GoFuckYourself.com

Perlover · 06-25-2008, 12:22 AM

Many their FHGs steal money
How ?
It's easy! They insert not their 'CA' parameter in links into FHGs

You can check yourself:
To get FHGs after registration here:

http://www.virginriches.com/galleries/galleries.php

For these sites:
1) AlexisVirgin
2) Handjob Teens
3) ZoeFire.com
4) SashaKiss
5) Natalie Kiss

You will see there '...CA=924022-0000...' in links
But they have CA=930224-0000 in CCBill
So your registered CCBill referer for Virgin Riches after registration is bound with CA as 930224-0000 in CCBill ... But you send traffic to FHG then serfer clicks by link there and go to CA=924022-0000 (blingadult.com partner program - their second program). CCBill sees that your referer is not from blingadult.com partner program and ignores your signups. All your signups are gotten by Virgin Riches.

Very nice ...

Jace · 06-25-2008, 12:28 AM

did you email them about this also?

Pics Traffic · 06-25-2008, 12:30 AM

thats no good.

SBJ · 06-25-2008, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace

did you email them about this also?

yeah i'd like to hear what they said in response to this. I can't believe programs would do this and think they can get away with it

Jace · 06-25-2008, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Silent Bob Jedi

yeah i'd like to hear what they said in response to this. I can't believe programs would do this and think they can get away with it

yeah, that is pretty smiley, but you also have to take into consideration the bar for entering this industry and starting a program is pretty low, you basically only have to be 18 and have a little money, no education needed....so, lots of time mistakes like this are because you basically have a trained monkey running the program instead of a skilled professional, which, IMO, is NO excuse for mistakes like this, but what can ya do other than stop the traffic and move on....

Jace · 06-25-2008, 12:41 AM

i meant slimey, not smiley, hahaha

SBJ · 06-25-2008, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace

yeah, that is pretty smiley, but you also have to take into consideration the bar for entering this industry and starting a program is pretty low, you basically only have to be 18 and have a little money, no education needed....so, lots of time mistakes like this are because you basically have a trained monkey running the program instead of a skilled professional, which, IMO, is NO excuse for mistakes like this, but what can ya do other than stop the traffic and move on....

ya i understand the rookie mistakes we all make and what not but the amount of fhg's that program has and out of the 6 or 7 i looked at they were all wrong. wow

oh well hopefully it gets straightened out for those that do promote

BV · 06-25-2008, 12:51 AM

I disagree, even a trained monkey could do better than that.

tranza · 06-25-2008, 07:05 AM

That sucks!!

Iron Fist · 06-25-2008, 07:07 AM

Interesting.... waiting for a response.

boneprone · 06-25-2008, 09:10 AM

Paysites really are a dime a dozen now days. As an affilate I usually give programs one chance to impress me with numbers. If the numbers dont impress its on to the next and I dont look back.

Im sure thats how many affilates now days are. There are so many programs out there to promote nowdays you can hardly shed a tear seeing something like this. The numbers would reflect shitty and Id move on. It sucks more for them than anything.

Becasue in this competitive market if the $$ numbers look bad most of us move on. And never come back.

Program owners take note. Get your shit in order. Its a biz. You''l be lucky to get a second chance after something like this.

This just saved me some time. I wont even try with this one.

SBJ · 06-25-2008, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sharphead

Interesting.... waiting for a response.

yup me too (so I emailed them a link to this thread)

pornguy · 06-25-2008, 12:06 PM

Wow. thats not good. Most likely will be blamed on a new employee that has since been let go, and they are trying to fix all the issues, so bare with them.

st0ned · 06-25-2008, 12:10 PM

I see more and more sponsors lately that pull bullshit with their FHGs. Often times they disappear and redirect to another site (after the FHGs are posted all over the net of course), other times all galleries redirect to one default gallery and not carry your ID over. I think I am going to start taking notes every time this happens because I have a hard time believing it was a "mistake" every time. I have heard they were switching servers, that some data was lost, etc etc etc.

stickyfingerz · 06-25-2008, 12:10 PM

I dont do FHG's on our program. We do zipped galleries. That way you can check your own links and make sure they are sending correctly. Never got the deal with free hosting for affiliates. It makes the affiliate care less if the traffic they are sending is going to convert or not, cause the bandwidth they are burning up isn't on their dime. If you are doing a 50/50 split of the profits then why should the program foot the bill on the hosting. Im glad to provide whatever an affiliate needs to promote us, but they need to be hosting it themselves imo.

BiggleJones · 06-25-2008, 12:13 PM

Man that's fuckin gay. I think I still have some links of theirs up. Time to start pulling them.

Yahook · 06-25-2008, 01:28 PM

I'm also waiting for a response of VirginRiches. If it's true then it's very very sad

payd2purv · 06-25-2008, 01:42 PM

Those fucking faggots!

Nasty · 06-25-2008, 02:02 PM

This sort of crap is becoming so common, I just dumped these motherfuckers

Scammers in this biz are at an all time high it seems

sicone · 06-25-2008, 11:59 PM

still no response?

06-26-2008, 12:15 AM

Wow..This isn't good at all. Thanks so much for the heads up.

On a sidenote, I dropped you an ICQ earlier. Can you shoot me a line tomorrow if you get a sec?
Thanks!

CyberHustler · 06-26-2008, 12:22 AM

timlover · 06-26-2008, 12:31 AM

the hosteds seem to work fine for me

http://www.virginriches.com/affiliat...al08/?id=55555
http://sashakiss.com/affiliates/gall...1/04/?id=55555
http://zoefire.com/affiliates/galler...5/02/?id=55555

all ccbill links go through 930224 and thats the same one thats for my virgin riches ccbill ID i have had forever

thats the same CA number on all their links and the same CA number in the join form for new affiliates

I think you are mistaken in your accusation.....

timlover · 06-26-2008, 12:35 AM

the one for handjobs is fucked up.

I am assuming that this is just a matter of some of the current stuff being coded wrong by either the people they outsourced the hosted galleries to, or the lackey on their staff who was supposed to recode them properly when they got them back

spacedog · 06-26-2008, 12:53 AM

that's not good at all

Scotty.T · 06-26-2008, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timlover

the hosteds seem to work fine for me

http://www.virginriches.com/affiliat...al08/?id=55555
http://sashakiss.com/affiliates/gall...1/04/?id=55555
http://zoefire.com/affiliates/galler...5/02/?id=55555

all ccbill links go through 930224 and thats the same one thats for my virgin riches ccbill ID i have had forever

thats the same CA number on all their links and the same CA number in the join form for new affiliates

I think you are mistaken in your accusation.....

Things might be working now but yesterday the CA number was as Perlover posted and affiliates ID's were not showing up on the source code of the join page. CA=924022 was what was on the source page as well.

spacedog · 06-26-2008, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scotty.T

Things might be working now but yesterday the CA number was as Perlover posted and affiliates ID's were not showing up on the source code of the join page. CA=924022 was what was on the source page as well.

Well, that could explain why I haven't made sales with them since fucking forever ago

sicone · 06-26-2008, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherm

On a sidenote, I dropped you an ICQ earlier. Can you shoot me a line tomorrow if you get a sec?
Thanks!

Talking to me?

SBJ · 06-26-2008, 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timlover

the hosteds seem to work fine for me

http://www.virginriches.com/affiliat...al08/?id=55555
http://sashakiss.com/affiliates/gall...1/04/?id=55555
http://zoefire.com/affiliates/galler...5/02/?id=55555

all ccbill links go through 930224 and thats the same one thats for my virgin riches ccbill ID i have had forever

thats the same CA number on all their links and the same CA number in the join form for new affiliates

I think you are mistaken in your accusation.....

you are right all links now are working right but 24hours ago all links were WRONG. I'm sorry but I'm glad they fixed the problem after I emailed them but why the fuck didn't they respond to this thread since it was the reason they fixed things

my email as i said earlier in this thread i sent

Quote:

hanks Matt. Looking into it now.

Vrich

> Hey I thought I would give you a link where a poster called you a cheater
> with your fhg's
>
> http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=837120
>
>
> Matt
>
>

SBJ · 06-26-2008, 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timlover

the one for handjobs is fucked up.

I am assuming that this is just a matter of some of the current stuff being coded wrong by either the people they outsourced the hosted galleries to, or the lackey on their staff who was supposed to recode them properly when they got them back

no it is just one they didn't fix! trust me this was not 3 or 5 fhg that were wrong but the 118 pages of fhg's listed i clicked on a random 6-8 and ALL sites were wrong

06-25-2008, 12:22 AM	#1
Perlover Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 70	Virgin Riches steal money through FHGs Many their FHGs steal money How ? It's easy! They insert not their 'CA' parameter in links into FHGs You can check yourself: To get FHGs after registration here: http://www.virginriches.com/galleries/galleries.php For these sites: 1) AlexisVirgin 2) Handjob Teens 3) ZoeFire.com 4) SashaKiss 5) Natalie Kiss You will see there '...CA=924022-0000...' in links But they have CA=930224-0000 in CCBill So your registered CCBill referer for Virgin Riches after registration is bound with CA as 930224-0000 in CCBill ... But you send traffic to FHG then serfer clicks by link there and go to CA=924022-0000 (blingadult.com partner program - their second program). CCBill sees that your referer is not from blingadult.com partner program and ignores your signups. All your signups are gotten by Virgin Riches. Very nice ...

06-25-2008, 12:30 AM	#3
Pics Traffic Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 3,055	thats no good. __________________ My Network Is Waiting For Your Fuckin' Trade!

06-25-2008, 07:05 AM	#9
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	That sucks!! __________________ I'm just a newbie.

06-25-2008, 09:10 AM	#11
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Paysites really are a dime a dozen now days. As an affilate I usually give programs one chance to impress me with numbers. If the numbers dont impress its on to the next and I dont look back. Im sure thats how many affilates now days are. There are so many programs out there to promote nowdays you can hardly shed a tear seeing something like this. The numbers would reflect shitty and Id move on. It sucks more for them than anything. Becasue in this competitive market if the $$ numbers look bad most of us move on. And never come back. Program owners take note. Get your shit in order. Its a biz. You''l be lucky to get a second chance after something like this. This just saved me some time. I wont even try with this one. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids. Last edited by boneprone; 06-25-2008 at 09:12 AM..

06-25-2008, 12:06 PM	#13
pornguy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 62,911	Wow. thats not good. Most likely will be blamed on a new employee that has since been let go, and they are trying to fix all the issues, so bare with them. __________________ PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online! TChicks.com \| Angeles Cid \| Mariana Cordoba \| MAILERS WELCOME!

06-25-2008, 12:28 AM	#2
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	did you email them about this also?

06-25-2008, 12:41 AM	#6
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	i meant slimey, not smiley, hahaha

06-25-2008, 12:51 AM	#8
BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	I disagree, even a trained monkey could do better than that.

06-25-2008, 07:07 AM	#10
Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	Interesting.... waiting for a response.

06-25-2008, 12:10 PM	#14
st0ned Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 8,437	I see more and more sponsors lately that pull bullshit with their FHGs. Often times they disappear and redirect to another site (after the FHGs are posted all over the net of course), other times all galleries redirect to one default gallery and not carry your ID over. I think I am going to start taking notes every time this happens because I have a hard time believing it was a "mistake" every time. I have heard they were switching servers, that some data was lost, etc etc etc. __________________ Conversion Sharks - 1,000+ adult dating offers, traffic management, and consistently high payouts. We will guarantee and beat your current EPC to win your dating traffic! Skype: ConversionSharks \|\| Email: info /@/ conversionsharks.com

06-25-2008, 12:10 PM	#15
stickyfingerz Doin fine Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 24,983	I dont do FHG's on our program. We do zipped galleries. That way you can check your own links and make sure they are sending correctly. Never got the deal with free hosting for affiliates. It makes the affiliate care less if the traffic they are sending is going to convert or not, cause the bandwidth they are burning up isn't on their dime. If you are doing a 50/50 split of the profits then why should the program foot the bill on the hosting. Im glad to provide whatever an affiliate needs to promote us, but they need to be hosting it themselves imo.

06-25-2008, 12:13 PM	#16
BiggleJones Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Downtown LA Posts: 2,276	Man that's fuckin gay. I think I still have some links of theirs up. Time to start pulling them. __________________ ICQ-291.596.343

06-25-2008, 01:28 PM	#17
Yahook Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Global traveler Posts: 840	I'm also waiting for a response of VirginRiches. If it's true then it's very very sad

06-25-2008, 01:42 PM	#18
payd2purv Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,727	Those fucking faggots! __________________

06-25-2008, 02:02 PM	#19
Nasty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sunny Fucking California Posts: 1,575	This sort of crap is becoming so common, I just dumped these motherfuckers Scammers in this biz are at an all time high it seems __________________ “Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants. We know more about war than we know about peace, more about killing than we know about living. If we continue to develop our technology without wisdom or prudence, our servant may prove to be our executioner.” ― Omar Bradley (1948)

06-25-2008, 11:59 PM	#20
sicone Retired Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Sac Posts: 18,453	still no response? __________________

06-26-2008, 12:15 AM	#21
shermo Guest Posts: n/a	Wow..This isn't good at all. Thanks so much for the heads up. On a sidenote, I dropped you an ICQ earlier. Can you shoot me a line tomorrow if you get a sec? Thanks!

06-26-2008, 12:22 AM	#22
CyberHustler Unregistered Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 25,372

06-26-2008, 12:31 AM	#23
timlover Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 540	the hosteds seem to work fine for me http://www.virginriches.com/affiliat...al08/?id=55555 http://sashakiss.com/affiliates/gall...1/04/?id=55555 http://zoefire.com/affiliates/galler...5/02/?id=55555 all ccbill links go through 930224 and thats the same one thats for my virgin riches ccbill ID i have had forever thats the same CA number on all their links and the same CA number in the join form for new affiliates I think you are mistaken in your accusation..... __________________ Last edited by timlover; 06-26-2008 at 12:33 AM..

06-26-2008, 12:35 AM	#24
timlover Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 540	the one for handjobs is fucked up. I am assuming that this is just a matter of some of the current stuff being coded wrong by either the people they outsourced the hosted galleries to, or the lackey on their staff who was supposed to recode them properly when they got them back __________________

06-26-2008, 12:53 AM	#25
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	that's not good at all