News Harley Davidson - Electric Motorcycle

[RummyBoy]

http://news.yahoo.com/harley-davidso...115943100.html

This strange sounding thing...... what do you think?

[PR_Glen]

i'll pass...

bikes aren't exactly hard on fuel in the first place.

[crockett]

It's interesting but it will likely cost too much to be a viable money saver in regard to fuel costs. Motorcycles are already fairly fuel efficient so it would need to sell at a very reasonable price to be anything more than a show off toy or collectors item. Being it only has a 130 mile range.

I guess 130 miles is fine for a work commute, but certainly not a touring bike. It think it would be interesting if they can ever increase the range to 250-300 miles.

[Chosen]

Looks pretty interesting to me

[scuba steve]

hm. i doubt the fan base for harley will embrace this bike

[Vendzilla]

My 99 road king gets 40 mpg riding double.
Probably cost the same to have electric. Battery life in a bike is not that long anyways.

[Vendzilla]

I have to say though, watching it again, would be a fun little bike to ride.

[2MuchMark]

It's a fantastic idea, and one that I'm surprised took this long to come around. Bikes are lighter and smaller, so batteries can be smaller too and therefore charge faster too. This bike can also go from 0 to 100 in only 4 seconds. Very impressive.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

My 99 road king gets 40 mpg riding double.
Probably cost the same to have electric.

A rough estimate says you pay about $19.25 to travel 200 miles. (Average price of gas in the US is $3.85 X 5 Gallons which is I think is the capacity of your tank). You are spending 233% more to fuel your current bike than the Harley Davidson electric bike. (The average cost of electricity in the US is 12 cents per kilowatt hour, and the average price of gas in the US today is $3.85 per gallon (which will probably go up now thanks to the new turmoil in Iraq, argh). I haven't found the specs for the bike except that the electric motor delivers 10Khw and that it charges in about 30 minutes to 1 hour) , but my 15Khw car costs me only 6 cents per hour per to charge, and takes 3-4 hours.)

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Battery life in a bike is not that long anyways.

If you mean the charge, you're probably right, but hopefully it will be at least 150 miles or so.

[CurrentlySober]

i cant a4d eltrickery...

[MK Ultra]

Electric Harley Davidson?!!

[Seth Manson]

Originally Posted by **********

blah blah my chevy volt blah blah wanted a tesla blah blah bought a volt blah

I sure you'd love to get an electric Harley, but I think when the time to purchase comes around you'd probably buy an electric Vespa instead.

[2MuchMark]

[MiamiBoyz]

I saw a couple of electric motorcycles the other day...almost silent. All I could think about was what pussies the guys riding them must be!

[PR_Glen]

nothing like being completely silent on the road to make you 10 times more likely to not be seen...

[Rochard]

I've never understood the point of a loud motorcycle. Just sounds rude. We have a guy here on our street with one and it's fucking dumb loud waking us up every night. The guy is a bit of a dick about it too because he revs it on the street - as if he is about to race someone.

I don't really understand Harleys either. It just screams "I'm an old man".

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz

I saw a couple of electric motorcycles the other day...almost silent. All I could think about was what pussies the guys riding them must be!

Why would they be pussies? They:

- Pay less for energy
- Don't pollute
- Make no noise and disturb no one

And the bikes are just as fast, if not faster than gas bikes. They also benefit by less wear and tear (less moving parts, less friction, less heat), and advance technology.

Gas bike drivers on the other hand:
- Pay at least 200% more for energy
- Pollute like crazy (Carbon Monoxide, Nitrogen Oxides, etc). In fact gas Motorcycles emit 12 Times more Total Hydrocarbons than cars according to the Journal of Air & Waste Management Association : http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/1....1995.10467347
- Make lots of noise. Vendizlla's 99 Road King probably does about 102 decibels unless he installed a louder aftermarket exhaust.

If anything, people on electric bikes are much cooler than people on gas bikes. They want to spend less, use clean energy, respect others, etc. What's not cool about that?

Also, gas bike owners should be happy. If this whole electric thing really takes off, The value of gas cars & bikes will go up, not down.

Don't get me wrong - I like motorcycles, but what is "Cool" is relative. I used to think that gas cars were cool but now I don't. I used to think that Gas motorcycles were cool, but now I don't. To me, what is "cool" is what makes sense from a technology point of view. Gasoline and oil will always have its place, but its no longer "cool" to me.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I've never understood the point of a loud motorcycle. Just sounds rude. We have a guy here on our street with one and it's fucking dumb loud waking us up every night. The guy is a bit of a dick about it too because he revs it on the street - as if he is about to race someone. .

There was a guy like that here too. He would start his bike, rev it about 10 times in about 30 seconds for no reason, drive away, come back, then rev it again about 10 times before turning it off. Just fucking stupid.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by **********

Why would they be pussies? They:

- Pay less for energy
- Don't pollute
- Make no noise and disturb no one

And the bikes are just as fast, if not faster than gas bikes. They also benefit by less wear and tear (less moving parts, less friction, less heat), and advance technology.

Gas bike drivers on the other hand:
- Pay at least 200% more for energy
- Pollute like crazy (Carbon Monoxide, Nitrogen Oxides, etc). In fact gas Motorcycles emit 12 Times more Total Hydrocarbons than cars according to the Journal of Air & Waste Management Association : http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/1....1995.10467347
- Make lots of noise. Vendizlla's 99 Road King probably does about 102 decibels unless he installed a louder aftermarket exhaust.

If anything, people on electric bikes are much cooler than people on gas bikes. They want to spend less, use clean energy, respect others, etc. What's not cool about that?

Also, gas bike owners should be happy. If this whole electric thing really takes off, The value of gas cars & bikes will go up, not down.

Don't get me wrong - I like motorcycles, but what is "Cool" is relative. I used to think that gas cars were cool but now I don't. I used to think that Gas motorcycles were cool, but now I don't. To me, what is "cool" is what makes sense from a technology point of view. Gasoline and oil will always have its place, but its no longer "cool" to me.

Yes, but... You can put a gallon of gas into a bike and drive for like six zillion miles.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I've never understood the point of a loud motorcycle. Just sounds rude. We have a guy here on our street with one and it's fucking dumb loud waking us up every night. The guy is a bit of a dick about it too because he revs it on the street - as if he is about to race someone.

I don't really understand Harleys either. It just screams "I'm an old man".

Wow, you always comment on shit you have no clue about!

I'm older than you and when I ride my harley around, I get girls asking for a ride at every stop. I would own a Harley over a Ferrari. I have more fun on it.

As far as loud, that's to let the asshole with the ear buds on know you are next to him. When Ear Buds while driving in California is illegal!

And riding with your friends is the best, we get together and go to different events in LA, like the great brunch at the Sage Brush Cantina where they have a large motorcycle parking area right in front. Or head to Malibu and ride up the coast. Maybe just to a charity event, Bikers are always doing that, I like the ones the Hells Angels do the best.

Taking my girl up to Carpinteria this weekend maybe for a great steak at the Palms, which has been open for over 100 years!

Wakes you up every night? What 10 pm?

[MK Ultra]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I've never understood the point of a loud motorcycle. Just sounds rude. We have a guy here on our street with one and it's fucking dumb loud waking us up every night. The guy is a bit of a dick about it too because he revs it on the street - as if he is about to race someone.

I don't really understand Harleys either. It just screams "I'm an old man".

You obviously have never experienced the intense joy and the sense of extreme satisfaction that can only come from riding down a street and setting off every single car alarm along your path

Originally Posted by **********

(can be applied to Volt owners as well)

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

As far as loud, that's to let the asshole with the ear buds on know you are next to him. When Ear Buds while driving in California is illegal!

Haha... no...

Remember Ghetto Blasters? Those big giant portable radios carried around by idiots blasting their favourite music to everyone around them whether they wanted to hear it or not?

Isn't it possible that people like you and them want to draw attention to themselves to exhibit their dominance over others? Secure their position as alpha male of the street? Or maybe you / they need constant reminders of their perceived importance, or perceived coolness? This is something only a psychologist or shrink could answer.

Vendy, don't take such a big shit anytime someone challenges you on things. Trust me, we get it: Bikes look cool. They are cool and have been since they were invented. You drive a Harley which is the coolest of the cool bikes. The sound that they make can be considered cool too just like people consider the sounds of certain cars to be cool. Not everyone things its cool because like I said, "Cool" is a relative term. it's subjective.

Peace.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by MK Ultra

You obviously have never experienced the intense joy and the sense of extreme satisfaction that can only come from riding down a street and setting off every single car alarm along your path



(can be applied to Volt owners as well)

Damn!!!!!!! I forgot about this one... haha.

[dillonaire]

I am a ducati man!

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by **********

Gas bike drivers on the other hand:
- Pay at least 200% more for energy
- Pollute like crazy (Carbon Monoxide, Nitrogen Oxides, etc). In fact gas Motorcycles emit 12 Times more Total Hydrocarbons than cars according to the Journal of Air & Waste Management Association : http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/1....1995.10467347
- Make lots of noise. Vendizlla's 99 Road King probably does about 102 decibels unless he installed a louder aftermarket exhaust.

If anything, people on electric bikes are much cooler than people on gas bikes. They want to spend less, use clean energy, respect others, etc. What's not cool about that?

you really think buying electric = spending less, uses clean energy and respects others?

You = also wrong about the above facts, but you think linking a fucking taiwan report from 1995 is proofs. more

**********, wrong again. on all counts

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by MK Ultra

You obviously have never experienced the intense joy and the sense of extreme satisfaction that can only come from riding down a street and setting off every single car alarm along your path

Yeah, that's always fun.

Just like looking at a car with kids and they are all staring at you!

Or people crossing the walk and telling you "NICE BIKE"

I just got back from getting some lunch, came out of a grocery store and hot woman was standing next to my bike checking it out.

Just don't see that happening with an electric chevy volt! LOL


Want a real thrill, ride with a pack of patched 1%'s down the freeway at 90 mph.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by gamelinkjeff

I am a ducati man!

I've ridden a Ducati, nice bike , just not as comfortable for a long ride.

I have a LePara seat with gel in it and air shocks. Freeway pegs so I can stretch out. I'm getting a 95 cam kit that will remove the chain in favor of direct gears, which will give me hella lot better throttle response. Snappy as my biker buddies call it!

I want a second Harley, but I want to build it. I think I will always keep my 99.
That's the thing about a Harley, old ones are still cool, get a crotch rocket that's 20 years old, not always cool!

[dillonaire]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I've never understood the point of a loud motorcycle. Just sounds rude. We have a guy here on our street with one and it's fucking dumb loud waking us up every night. The guy is a bit of a dick about it too because he revs it on the street - as if he is about to race someone.

I don't really understand Harleys either. It just screams "I'm an old man".

A loud bike will save your life. I put a termignoni exhaust system on my ducati and it lets people know im coming. I split lanes so having a loud bike saves my life and lets people know im coming through, so they can move over to give me some room.

[dillonaire]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I've ridden a Ducati, nice bike , just not as comfortable for a long ride.

I have a LePara seat with gel in it and air shocks. Freeway pegs so I can stretch out. I'm getting a 95 cam kit that will remove the chain in favor of direct gears, which will give me hella lot better throttle response. Snappy as my biker buddies call it!

I want a second Harley, but I want to build it. I think I will always keep my 99.
That's the thing about a Harley, old ones are still cool, get a crotch rocket that's 20 years old, not always cool!

Maybe when im your age ill think about a Harley, but im only 36 so no need for an old man's bike just yet

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by gamelinkjeff

Maybe when im your age ill think about a Harley, but im only 36 so no need for an old man's bike just yet

LOL, okok,

Maybe you have a clouded view of Harley's
You think this model is for old guys?

[keysync]

I have a 07 ultra.


And I would love to have one of these electric bikes.

It's not silent. It has a distinct whine from the gearbox that sounds badass.

Plus it's unique. And I think that's what I like about it most.

[Vendzilla]

Here's my 99 road king classic

[MiamiBoyz]

Originally Posted by **********

Why would they be pussies? They:

- Pay less for energy
- Don't pollute
- Make no noise and disturb no one

And the bikes are just as fast, if not faster than gas bikes. They also benefit by less wear and tear (less moving parts, less friction, less heat), and advance technology.

Gas bike drivers on the other hand:
- Pay at least 200% more for energy
- Pollute like crazy (Carbon Monoxide, Nitrogen Oxides, etc). In fact gas Motorcycles emit 12 Times more Total Hydrocarbons than cars according to the Journal of Air & Waste Management Association : http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/1....1995.10467347
- Make lots of noise. Vendizlla's 99 Road King probably does about 102 decibels unless he installed a louder aftermarket exhaust.

If anything, people on electric bikes are much cooler than people on gas bikes. They want to spend less, use clean energy, respect others, etc. What's not cool about that?

Also, gas bike owners should be happy. If this whole electric thing really takes off, The value of gas cars & bikes will go up, not down.

Don't get me wrong - I like motorcycles, but what is "Cool" is relative. I used to think that gas cars were cool but now I don't. I used to think that Gas motorcycles were cool, but now I don't. To me, what is "cool" is what makes sense from a technology point of view. Gasoline and oil will always have its place, but its no longer "cool" to me.

Oh no...I get all that and you are totally right BUT somehow it just seems WRONG...there is no rebellion in a silent bike...the bike itself loses it's voice - I want to hear it scream a big "FUCK YOU" to the world!

[dillonaire]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

LOL, okok,

Maybe you have a clouded view of Harley's
You think this model is for old guys?

What year and model is this?

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by gamelinkjeff

What year and model is this?

Stop by a Harley Dealer and Look at the V-Rods.
They have Porsche designed water cooled motors and HAUL ASS
They are all Harley Davidson!
If you like sports bikes, this is a cool ride!

http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US...d-special.html
http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US...od-muscle.html

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz

Oh no...I get all that and you are totally right BUT somehow it just seems WRONG...there is no rebellion in a silent bike...the bike itself loses it's voice - I want to hear it scream a big "FUCK YOU" to the world!

Some people think eating a vegan hot dog is rebellious or maybe driving a battery powered car? LOL

[MK Ultra]

Originally Posted by keysync

I have a 07 ultra.


And I would love to have one of these electric bikes.

It's not silent. It has a distinct whine from the gearbox that sounds badass.

Plus it's unique. And I think that's what I like about it most.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Here's my 99 road king classic

my 06 Wide Glide, I gotta change those ugly bags


The internal cumbustion engine will eventually die
But until it does I plan to burn gas, spew pollutants and deafen hippies with for all I'm worth

Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz

Oh no...I get all that and you are totally right BUT somehow it just seems WRONG...there is no rebellion in a silent bike...the bike itself loses it's voice - I want to hear it scream a big "FUCK YOU" to the world!

Exactly

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

you really think buying electric = spending less, uses clean energy and respects others?

No. I think that revving a noisy bike in a quiet neighbourhood for no reason is disrespectful.

Originally Posted by dyna mo

You = also wrong about the above facts, but you think linking a fucking taiwan report from 1995 is proofs. more

**********, wrong again. on all counts

Oops ok maybe you're right. I didn't realize this report was so old. I will look around for some up to date information and post what I find.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I just got back from getting some lunch, came out of a grocery store and hot woman was standing next to my bike checking it out.

Good for you! Believe it or not, I'm happy that your bike gets you chicks.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Just don't see that happening with an electric chevy volt! LOL

That's totally fine with me. First, I already have a chick. Second, I don't really find the need for the kind of, lets call it "validation", that you seem to require.

True story : When I had my Camaro, I was at stop light. I gave a "thumbs up" to the driver of the other car, which happened to be a Volt.

See? Do you get it? I, me, personally, just don't think gas is cool. I, me, personally, think electric is cool. "Cool", is relative and subjective. Your chick at the grocery store thought your bike (and you I guess) were cool. Another chick at the grocery store might not think you or your bike were cool. That's, that's all.. stop getting so bent out of shape about things man... you need to smoke a doobie and relax.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

LOL, okok,

Maybe you have a clouded view of Harley's
You think this model is for old guys?

No... but this one is for smart guys...

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Here's my 99 road king classic

It looks like the perfect bike for getting groceries.

Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz

Oh no...I get all that and you are totally right BUT somehow it just seems WRONG...there is no rebellion in a silent bike...the bike itself loses it's voice - I want to hear it scream a big "FUCK YOU" to the world!

Ya know... I kind of know what you mean. It does seem wrong somehow... bikes should make a sexy rumble noise for sure... but .... nah.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by MK Ultra

my 06 Wide Glide, I gotta change those ugly bags


The internal cumbustion engine will eventually die
But until it does I plan to burn gas, spew pollutants and deafen hippies with for all I'm worth



Exactly

Yeah, those bags just don't look right. I see you have a corbin seat, I have some friends that love them. I love my LePara seat. 600 miles one day, Vegas and back, no worries. Was a windy day too.

Sometimes bags can look sexy, like this big bear chopper with a 117 in motor for $63k

[mineistaken]

Liberals will love it.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Liberals will love it.

No they won't, They hate fun!

[MK Ultra]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Yeah, those bags just don't look right.

A little better angle but yeah they gotta go, not my addition they came with the bike and were the first things I took off, I only put them back on so I could carry a jacket for winter riding.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I see you have a corbin seat, I have some friends that love them. I love my LePara seat. 600 miles one day, Vegas and back, no worries. Was a windy day too.

Yeah I love my Corbin Baby Alligator, the nice thing is I can make an appointment with Corbin, ride a few hours (for me) up to Hollister, have lunch and ride home with a new seat custom-molded for my ass all in the same day.
LePara makes some sweet seats too, I know a few guys who swear by them.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Sometimes bags can look sexy, like this big bear chopper with a 117 in motor for $63k

There have been some really innovative and just plain fucking awesome baggers built in the last few years but I had decided that because I hadn't been on a bike since my last crash 20+ years ago I thought going with a lighter bike would be the better way to dip my toes back in, so I went with the Dyna.
I'd wanted a Wide Glide since I saw one back in 92, 20 years later and I'm riding the piss out of it.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

No they won't, They hate fun!

Look at mark prince, he is all over that, even when he is not a bike owner (probably) himself

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by MK Ultra

A little better angle but yeah they gotta go, not my addition they came with the bike and were the first things I took off, I only put them back on so I could carry a jacket for winter riding.




Yeah I love my Corbin Baby Alligator, the nice thing is I can make an appointment with Corbin, ride a few hours (for me) up to Hollister, have lunch and ride home with a new seat custom-molded for my ass all in the same day.
LePara makes some sweet seats too, I know a few guys who swear by them.



There have been some really innovative and just plain fucking awesome baggers built in the last few years but I had decided that because I hadn't been on a bike since my last crash 20+ years ago I thought going with a lighter bike would be the better way to dip my toes back in, so I went with the Dyna.
I'd wanted a Wide Glide since I saw one back in 92, 20 years later and I'm riding the piss out of it.

My bike came with the LePara seat, it has gel in it. It's a $500 seat made for tall guys as it sits low in the saddle. I'm 6'3" so it's perfect for me and I love my road king. Bigger tires don't catch the groove on the freeways and I'm having a trunk I bought color matched right now. Everything clips on, I can remove the back rest, the windshield and the luggage rack in less than a minute giving it a completely different look.

Living in the Valley, there are hundreds of custom shops for whatever you need, one of my best friends owns a motorcycle shop.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Look at mark prince, he is all over that, even when he is not a bike owner (probably) himself

I heard he owns a bike, here it is

[MK Ultra]

Originally Posted by **********

I don't get why you keep posting this pic of that Left-Wing-Sean-Hannity-With-Tits showing us all the way her girlfriend likes it



Must be a Canadian thing I guess

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by MK Ultra

my 06 Wide Glide,

I think I see a water spot on the chrome there.

[MK Ultra]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

I think I see a water spot on the chrome there.

Because I live next to the ocean it gets sprayed down with Bike Spirits and wiped clean every single week to remove the bugs and keep the corrosion away.

But that reminds me I need to add some more chrome soon

[baddog]

Originally Posted by crockett

It's interesting but it will likely cost too much to be a viable money saver in regard to fuel costs. Motorcycles are already fairly fuel efficient so it would need to sell at a very reasonable price to be anything more than a show off toy or collectors item. Being it only has a 130 mile range.

I guess 130 miles is fine for a work commute, but certainly not a touring bike. It think it would be interesting if they can ever increase the range to 250-300 miles.

It is obvious you have never ridden a bike for any distance.

Originally Posted by Rochard

I've never understood the point of a loud motorcycle. Just sounds rude. We have a guy here on our street with one and it's fucking dumb loud waking us up every night. The guy is a bit of a dick about it too because he revs it on the street - as if he is about to race someone.

I don't really understand Harleys either. It just screams "I'm an old man".

I don't know any other way to put it; you do not know shit when it comes to bikes.

Originally Posted by Rochard

Yes, but... You can put a gallon of gas into a bike and drive for like six zillion miles.

Like I said above

Originally Posted by gamelinkjeff

Maybe when im your age ill think about a Harley, but im only 36 so no need for an old man's bike just yet

I have to ask; what is the furthest you have ridden in a day?

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by MK Ultra

Because I live next to the ocean it gets sprayed down with Bike Spirits and wiped clean every single week to remove the bugs and keep the corrosion away.

But that reminds me I need to add some more chrome soon

sharp fxdwg btw. which bags are you considering?