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BV 02-07-2009 01:15 AM

Tube sites make no money. (business thread)
 
I'm evaluating stats right now and tube sites don't even register on the map!!!

Affiliates, please drop this business model ASAP!!!!!

You are losing money!!!!!!!

Dating and live cam sites are cashing in on it though. :2 cents:

Fact......

BV

PS: I am proactive and was one of the first to have bulk tube dumps. Fact is it was a waste of fucking time. Tube sites don't make any sales worth mentioning. Period, :mad:

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-07-2009 01:37 AM

ok.......

Makingcoin 02-07-2009 01:37 AM

We just added a bulk tube dump with 2 minute clips, we are also adding hosted flash galleries daily. We are already seeing sales from our hosted flvs on legal tubes.

BV 02-07-2009 01:41 AM

bullshit


post stats

i have had hosted flvs out for a year

i just ran stats

tube sites aren't even registering on the needle

all sales are coming from tgp mgp and blog type sites

tube sites are a waste of time is what i am coming to realise

all talk no action

except for dating and cam sites, they are cashing in like a motherfucker off all the paysites content :2 cents: :2 cents:

Ozarkz 02-07-2009 01:44 AM

A lot of these sites have been online for years tho they are being backed for a reason.

Zorgman 02-07-2009 01:44 AM

Maybe your doing it wrong BV... tube sites work for me. Not just selling software, but running the sites too. Their easy to use and you can leave them and they auto update. I can't see the costs of being a paysite owner and hosting the videos due to the fact im not a paysite owner. But with so many people using them its got to be working, TEVS is over 2500 domains atm. Lots of big and small players have them. They wouldn't if they didn't make money.

mmcfadden 02-07-2009 01:45 AM

i like that kinda traffic... in about a year I can upgrade to a pack of malboro's...

i have another thread about this as well...

BV 02-07-2009 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zorgman (Post 15450241)
Maybe your doing it wrong BV... tube sites work for me. Not just selling software, but running the sites too. Their easy to use and you can leave them and they auto update. I can't see the costs of being a paysite owner and hosting the videos due to the fact im not a paysite owner. But with so many people using them its got to be working, TEVS is over 2500 domains atm. Lots of big and small players have them. They wouldn't if they didn't make money.


exactly. \\

they are not making money for me
\
all my referring sales not one are tube sites in the top 100

they are making money, yes, i know

for the aff fling cams.com etc

not for me

JD 02-07-2009 02:00 AM

interesting...

KillerK 02-07-2009 02:17 AM

This thread of full of BS.

Unless you mean legit, legal tube sites then you are correct. They make dick. But tubes with full videos make so much money it is sick.

mmcfadden 02-07-2009 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 15450274)
This thread of full of BS.

Unless you mean legit, legal tube sites then you are correct. They make dick. But tubes with full videos make so much money it is sick.

i bet...

bdld 02-07-2009 02:38 AM

tube users are way bigger freeloaders than tgp users will ever be.

TeenCat 02-07-2009 02:50 AM

depends on tube, all the big tube sites are filled with mainstream bullshit porn that is everyone bored about. if you have niche targeted tube site you can do well imho. lets wait when beachtube will be up, it will be not tube based but i will use your tube videos, lets pray for some results ... :)

kmanrox 02-07-2009 03:20 AM

bv, what are your top 3 affiliate sales vehicles?

Kron 02-07-2009 03:22 AM

interesting

LoveSandra 02-07-2009 03:24 AM

fuck the tube :)

gooddomains 02-07-2009 03:35 AM

tubes have been making since day one

Jack Sparrow 02-07-2009 05:54 AM

Lets all say this, maybe it will happen, really..

alias 02-07-2009 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV (Post 15450235)
bullshit


post stats

lets see some non cam/dating stats.. .:2 cents:

Sausage 02-07-2009 06:17 AM

Oh wow .. apparently I make no money from my legal tube.

Thanks for letting me know. :)

RayBonga 02-07-2009 06:45 AM

Yes, you should all get out of this tube model (who wants competition anyway)

seeandsee 02-07-2009 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV (Post 15450186)
I'm evaluating stats right now and tube sites don't even register on the map!!!

Affiliates, please drop this business model ASAP!!!!!

You are losing money!!!!!!!

Dating and live cam sites are cashing in on it though. :2 cents:

Fact......

BV

PS: I am proactive and was one of the first to have bulk tube dumps. Fact is it was a waste of fucking time. Tube sites don't make any sales worth mentioning. Period, :mad:

thanks for notice :)

gideongallery 02-07-2009 08:22 AM

well judging for how you are equating success it obvious you are doing it wrong
let me guess
you are giving away short ass clips
and counting the sales that come in thru the join links that are on each one of the host pages.

when you should be giving away long clips
verbally and visually branding your site
and counting the increased type in traffic.

Reak AGV 02-07-2009 09:10 AM

It's true, there's NO MONEY IN TUBES!!! ;)

PastorSinAlot 02-07-2009 09:16 AM

tube sites make money
When i came out with hoodtube in three months was bringing in 3000k net.
Freakytube did well also. Ghettotube is off to a good start. You can make money. I am sure some people dont make money with blogs and some people do. Its how you market, niche etc

Iron Fist 02-07-2009 09:32 AM

No more tubes mmkay? I'm starting up a pipe.

Davy 02-07-2009 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PastorSinAlot (Post 15451542)
tube sites make money
When i came out with hoodtube in three months was bringing in 3000k net.
Freakytube did well also. Ghettotube is off to a good start. You can make money. I am sure some people dont make money with blogs and some people do. Its how you market, niche etc

It's amazing how much out of touch with reality people can get.
Smoked too much weed, huh?
I suggest you get sober and then check your bank account again. :2 cents:

fuzebox 02-07-2009 10:27 AM

Just saying "tube sites" doesn't really mean anything... For every big tube gettin 3-500k+ per day, there's a thousand little ones who are adding sponsor hosted flvs and generating a couple thousand uniques a day, and not making any sales.

The statement "tube sites make no money" isn't accurate, the statement should be "small tube sites that use sponsor hosted flvs make no money".

doridori 02-07-2009 11:02 AM

too much deer meat can make you go crazy...feel the wrath of the animals you've killed.

Dusen 02-07-2009 11:10 AM

It's like targeting 'free' keywords in SEO - why are you surprised?

Selling snow to eskimos never worked either.

Quotealex 02-07-2009 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 15451351)
well judging for how you are equating success it obvious you are doing it wrong
let me guess
you are giving away short ass clips
and counting the sales that come in thru the join links that are on each one of the host pages.

when you should be giving away long clips
verbally and visually branding your site
and counting the increased type in traffic.

So you mean he should use the clips to exploit and fuck over his affiliates!
Nice thinking

Pleasurepays 02-07-2009 11:56 AM

i love this idea that tube sites are pointless... yet they exist and thrive.

would seem to me that if they made no money and served no purpose... they would be gone already.

LadyMischief 02-07-2009 12:04 PM

Ya I don't think I could quite agree.. but I guess it depends on WHICH tube you are talking about.

LadyMischief 02-07-2009 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 15452332)
i love this idea that tube sites are pointless... yet they exist and thrive.

would seem to me that if they made no money and served no purpose... they would be gone already.

Amen lol! You shouldn't be sharing logic with these people tho! :P

LoveSandra 02-07-2009 12:13 PM

if you were a scumbag you should do :)

hankphone 02-07-2009 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doridori (Post 15452155)
too much deer meat can make you go crazy...feel the wrath of the animals you've killed.

It's called venison.

The thing about tube sites is if I can blow my load without having to buy a membership, and I get new vids daily - why the fuck would I spend any money? My keyboard and my belly button can both attest to this,

HorseShit 02-07-2009 12:16 PM

legal tube sites are retarded, if you're a sponsor and providing 2 min clips to them don't expect to be rolling in a ton of cash, no good tube site gives a fuck about 2 min clips.

tony286 02-07-2009 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 15452332)
i love this idea that tube sites are pointless... yet they exist and thrive.

would seem to me that if they made no money and served no purpose... they would be gone already.

the question is how many would there still be if prepaid ads disappeared tomorrow.

HorseShit 02-07-2009 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 15452531)
the question is how many would there still be if prepaid ads disappeared tomorrow.

What difference does that make?

That point could be argued for any large traffic site, not just a tube, we all know prepaid spots aren't going anywhere

tony286 02-07-2009 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdavis (Post 15452537)
What difference does that make?

That point could be argued for any large traffic site, not just a tube, we all know prepaid spots aren't going anywhere

The difference it makes is if its all prepaid means no one could be buying anything. Also no one talks about how large of the percentage of surfers that go to tubes are even old enough to have a credit card therefore cant buy product?

HorseShit 02-07-2009 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 15452547)
The difference it makes is if its all prepaid doesnt mean anyone is buying anything. Also no one talks about how large of the percentage of surfers that go to tubes are even old enough to have a credit card therefore cant buy product?

Big tube sites send sales to paysites without even having a link to them :2 cents:

The people with ad spots on big tubes are doing very well and wouldn't be renewing every month if they weren't.

tony286 02-07-2009 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdavis (Post 15452551)
Big tube sites send sales to paysites without even having a link to them :2 cents:

The people with ad spots on big tubes are doing very well and wouldn't be renewing every month if they weren't.

you know this how?

Agent 488 02-07-2009 12:50 PM

people should look at reality as it is - not through your desires and fears.

tubes - not making a point on whether i like them or not - have been around for awhile, aren't going anywhere and the ads are renewed month after month. take from that what you will.

Agent 488 02-07-2009 12:52 PM

and as far as the free porn argument - should not everyone shop at wal-mart and take the bus because it is cheapest?

nico-t 02-07-2009 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozarkz (Post 15450239)
A lot of these sites have been online for years tho they are being backed for a reason.

in text your sig said 1989 - 2009 are you marty mcfly?

96ukssob 02-07-2009 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV (Post 15450186)
I'm evaluating stats right now and tube sites don't even register on the map!!!

Affiliates, please drop this business model ASAP!!!!!

You are losing money!!!!!!!

Dating and live cam sites are cashing in on it though. :2 cents:

Fact......

BV

PS: I am proactive and was one of the first to have bulk tube dumps. Fact is it was a waste of fucking time. Tube sites don't make any sales worth mentioning. Period, :mad:

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

sorry man, but you are way off on this. if your tube site is not making money, its probably because its not set up to convert surfers to customers. just loading up 2 or 15 minute long videos doesnt mean you are going to make money. take what you have learned in the past 5+ years from TGPs to MGPs to Blogs and use the same strategy to make money

tony286 02-07-2009 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budsbabes (Post 15452573)
people should look at reality as it is - not through your desires and fears.

tubes - not making a point on whether i like them or not - have been around for awhile, aren't going anywhere and the ads are renewed month after month. take from that what you will.

Another reason for Ads being renewed may not be because of sales but because of fear if their presence isn't there in front of all that traffic.

fuzebox 02-07-2009 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 15452556)
you know this how?

I know he's right, because I know people who run large tube sites, I know people who buy ads on tube sites, and I know people who use watermarked clips to generate traffic from tube sites... And all of them make money.

LadyMischief 02-07-2009 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budsbabes (Post 15452577)
and as far as the free porn argument - should not everyone shop at wal-mart and take the bus because it is cheapest?

People said the same about tgps and mgps. :)

Agent 488 02-07-2009 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 15452584)
Another reason for Ads being renewed may not be because of sales but because of fear if their presence isn't there in front of all that traffic.

waiting for some hypothetical future where the tubes may not exist does not help one to make money now.


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