Because youve seen his bank balance? Thought not :2 cents:

Apparently there a quite a few people here that are forgetting to run this thread through the BSinator... then filtering the results through the Experiencematron...

who are you referring to?

:1orglaugh I'm pretty sure he meant to say $3000 though instead of 3000k :P

Well... I would love to answer that but everyone on Team Homegrown always gets nervous when I start doing things like that so please understand if I don't get specific. Hopefully those that might be influenced to make a business decision based on the information in this thread will run their own tests and dial in the successes or failures of any traffic source on the detriments or merits of their own content, products, services, etc.

imo, everyone needs to keep in mind that for everyone ready to give honest helpful advice there is someone else trying to keep others down by misdirection and subterfuge.

Nice tube, did you get permission from Don Cornelius to do the Soul Train video as your feature vid with the song playing for each visitor? And I could see a man's back sliced in half but I have to register to see a titty fuck vid?

TGP/MGP sites pushing my FHG
Review Sites
Blogs

All I know about tubes is that a few of the big ones were begging people to buy them. RedTube made it very clear that they wanted to be sold and fast.

you make money from the paysite sponsors or your cam & dating sites

what's your site? let me see

Do you people read? He is saying they don't covert for his paysite. If you are pushing dating or cams on tubes, that is a different story. He is not talking about that.

Thank You

this is correct

I show very very few affiliate sales coming from tubes.

Sorry to bring the bad news but this business model sucks.

I will continue to supply hosted flvs but I can tell you that it is not a great way to make money based on my sales reports and who is making sales for me and from where.

This is fact.

while nobody bought them. Some of them simply copied web 2.0 model - to grow as fast and as much as possible and then to exit via sell.
the real monetization of traffic would be on purchaser - at least thats what I read here in interview with some big boss (playboy entertaiment?), who got proposal from owners of xtube or "sometube" like this - they asked for 20 milions, while still operating in loss :1orglaugh

and did someone actually bought RedTube? i guess noone.

Wow, it only took two pages to clear up that he was saying tube sites don't generate income for a paysite, not the tube site itself. Even though it was stated clearly in the first post.

thank you, yes this is what i said in post 1 :thumbsup

uh, read the thread title, it's general therefore we can give more general responses

the reason is they get free content from sponsor P (paysites) in order to make money from Sponsors C & D (camsites & dating sites)

So if someone starts a thread titled "I'm dying here" and talks about financial problems you would tell them to call a paramedic. :winkwink:

lol dude, the title is just to give you a general idea what the post is about

you have to read and comprehend the post :2 cents:

Hey BV,

Our tube converts very well with some content however we have never done well with anything soft or solo. The hardcore clips is what our surfers like and maybe thats affecting the way your stats look from tubes

Another tid bit of information to put things in perspective.

Yesterday (Friday Feb 6, 2009) my pay sites almost reached 1000.00 in membership sales.

Not one of these sales was from a Tube Site affiliate.

And I am on a ton of tubes.

This is a fact.

What tube site are you referring too?

How long are the clips you offer to affiliates for tube use?

lubetube.com

i would stop offering the hosted flv's for tubes. the long term cost of over saturating your program is too big.

The more tube sites we get, the more it will spread to the paysites.
Micro-niches still have a future. The webmasters are busily shovelling their own graves. But that's fine. Finally they found something to screw themselves, and not their customers. :1orglaugh

anywhere from 30 seconds to 3 minutes, i think most are in the 1:30 to 2 minute range

A look at his site should suffice every normal thinking person. :2 cents:

The thing is, it's not just the paysites. They will get hurt first as is the case now. But eventually the big tubes will expose everyone to the various cams and dating sponsors leaving very little for the rest of you who think you are safe pushing those sites. Just give it time.

yeah, good luck making any money with those videos

i make great money with them on the FHG's, and blogs :2 cents:

exactly :thumbsup

I didn't think 1989 was elite enough so I added a couple more years. :thumbsup

That's a decent looking Tube :2 cents:

However what is the ratio of your paysite sales versus dating sales?

Logic tells me that it's not very good for the paysites.

Because with your logic Softcore does not sell that well, and I can see and agree with that.

But if Sofcore sales suffer greatly then the hardcore sales have to be suffering also. I mean they can't be unaffected and immune to this business model can they?

FYI: bvbucks does have 1 HC site with tube clips. http://www.bvbucks.com/flash/?affil_id=1352409&cat=5

I'm done with this thread, if you want to discuss why tubes aren't working for you hit me up on ICQ in private and I'll school you for free sometime

And it will for a long time. Live sex is where its at :thumbsup

My tube site never monetized but my cam stuff is doing well.

How many type-in sales did you get? And did that number go up since you started being promoted on tubes?

Your right in saying dating does better then the paysites but the paysites are doing a good amount of sales and converting from 1:1000 This is not an amazing ratio but very good from a site with "bulky" traffic.

I just think different concepts work for some things and not others. Soft and solo don't convert from our tube the same way hardcore won't convert from a pornstar or glam traffic sites.

I think we need to review your sites though! ReviewPorn.com will do great with your sites :thumbsup

I sign everything what BV said!

my tube is doing good selling GetRichInPorn.com I havnt added cams or dating to it yet

www.Gotvideos.com

..and what in the fuck would you know about the online business in ANY capacity?

Nigga please.
:disgust

Go back to your perception of copyright, time shifting, trouble making, bullshit threads where you belong troll. Maybe you can incite some more arguments and cause more mischief. That is what you really like doing. Which is your only purpose for being on this board.

:321GFY

Leave business on the board to people actually IN this business.

Exactly.

A good percentage in this thread are not even in this industry full time. Just board trolls.

:2 cents:

tube sites have always done well for me

Agreed...

Advertising spots on tubes are damn expensive, yet they get bought up. 30 to 60k a pop...

uhm... so you're suggesting that tube sites exist or are viable only because misguided, mathematically challenged people are prepaying ads well in advance before finding out the traffic is garbage and that they've been had and somehow word just isn't getting out... and that is the reason they thrived for several years now?

what the hell do you think is happening??? are these people pre-paying for ads for 10 years in advance under some sort of contract that they just can't back out of?

i can't believe you guys are actually serious.

its so bizarre that so many people just can't accept the fact that tube sites do well and convert traffic.

if Dating and Webcam sites make money, then You can't say it doesn't make money.

i assume you are referring to tube sites with full scenes (licensed or maybe not)
the add space being sold on that style tube is not what this thread is about

however i will say that that business model also sucks for the paysites thats content is being used in order to build that amount of traffic

this thread is more about sponsor vid tube sites and how they don't send any sales to speak of to the sponsors, most of the money being made by these tube site operators is from dating and cam sponsors

You're not the brightest are you?

Agreed, The thread title says "Tube sites make no money".

Read Your post's contradiction to Thread title You made, if You can Mr. Fucking brilliant :winkwink: