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TheSenator 09-18-2008 11:55 AM

Media Blackout - Galveston - 100s maybe 1000s Dead
 
Media blackout in Galveston....WHY? Floating bodies, dangerous biological shit spewing from Level-IV Lab.

I blame this all on BUSH. He fucked up this country so bad.

References:
http://www.worldproutassembly.org/ar..._blackout.html

http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/...th-toll-rises/

http://tpzoo.wordpress.com/2008/09/1...-toll-hits-51/

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index....9045#msg299045

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/17/135626/265

TheSenator 09-18-2008 12:04 PM

UTMB Level-IV Biohazard Laboratories... reliable reports indicate the entire block suffered water intrusion upwards of seven feet deep and damaging wind and high waves.

TheSenator 09-18-2008 12:06 PM

Old report about the laboratory doors failing.....I hope that the doors didn't fail during the hurricane.
http://www.ohsonline.com/articles/57860/

pornguy 09-18-2008 12:11 PM

If you knew the actual death toll from Andrew you would shit your pants.

xmas13 09-18-2008 12:14 PM

It's ok dude. +0.9% demographic growth in 2007. :)

ADL Colin 09-18-2008 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 14775985)
If you knew the actual death toll from Andrew you would shit your pants.

You mean the conspiracy story written by the person who claimed that Andrew's sustained winds were really 300 mph? Even though hurricanes are currently limited to maximum sustained winds of about 200 mph on earth -- given current oceanic heat content?

sltr 09-18-2008 12:16 PM

here we go. i guess it's time for another conspiracy, it's been 7 years.

pocketkangaroo 09-18-2008 12:16 PM

I made a thread about this the other day. Something is real fishy down there.

BusterBunny 09-18-2008 12:16 PM

http://blogs.townonline.com/newton/w...1/godzilla.jpg

Sly 09-18-2008 12:17 PM

I'm curious as to how this is directly the fault of Bush... I haven't been following the news. Somebody fill me in.

TheSenator 09-18-2008 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BusterBunny (Post 14776054)


That would have been better....than Bush

ADL Colin 09-18-2008 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BusterBunny (Post 14776054)

This will be the best post in this thread. We should all just bow down and quit now.

pornguy 09-18-2008 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADL Colin (Post 14776021)
You mean the conspiracy story written by the person who claimed that Andrew's sustained winds were really 300 mph? Even though hurricanes are currently limited to maximum sustained winds of about 200 mph on earth -- given current oceanic heat content?

more than 30 people with weather tracking devices reported that. And it was ALL over the news for a week or so, and then one day, GONE.

But the deaths, I saw at least 100 bodies. I was there for the clean up. I would say that out of the 100 I saw, 90 of them were immigrants.

ADL Colin 09-18-2008 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 14776065)
I'm curious as to how this is directly the fault of Bush... I haven't been following the news. Somebody fill me in.

Obviously ...

http://linkification.com/linked/weathermachine.jpg

pornguy 09-18-2008 12:24 PM

Read about some of the major storms that have hit the US, and you will be amazed. But dont read what the gubment tells you, read the other books about them.

The main weather tower for Miami was built of concrete, as it should have been, and was supposed to be able to withstand HUGE hurricane force winds. it last reported the winds at 179 mph, and 30 min later, the tower was gone. Andrew was one of VERY few hurricanes to ever get a class 5 rating.

IllTestYourGirls 09-18-2008 12:25 PM

It was man bear pig

IllTestYourGirls 09-18-2008 12:31 PM

They dont know the death toll. Many were swept out to sea.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26765035/

Zebra 09-18-2008 12:34 PM

Just a point of reference:
I live in Moore, OK and the May 3, 1999 F5+ tornado we had briefly reached 318MPH and is recognized as the fasted winds ever recorded on Earth. The NOAA center staffed by the University of Oklahoma was only 20 miles away so they were able to verify this.

BusterBunny 09-18-2008 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 14776159)
They dont know the death toll. Many were swept out to sea.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26765035/

they have a picture of pilings where a house once stood then break the story with a picture ad for home furnishings?:helpme

_Richard_ 09-18-2008 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 14776096)
Read about some of the major storms that have hit the US, and you will be amazed. But dont read what the gubment tells you, read the other books about them.

The main weather tower for Miami was built of concrete, as it should have been, and was supposed to be able to withstand HUGE hurricane force winds. it last reported the winds at 179 mph, and 30 min later, the tower was gone. Andrew was one of VERY few hurricanes to ever get a class 5 rating.

any links?

seeandsee 09-18-2008 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin (Post 14776092)

ha ha :1orglaugh

JesseD 09-18-2008 12:42 PM

Those are some stellar references.

Mr Pheer 09-18-2008 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 14776081)
But the deaths, I saw at least 100 bodies. I was there for the clean up. I would say that out of the 100 I saw, 90 of them were immigrants.

Really? I was there as well. We had cadavar dogs and went thru what was left of immigrant housing near the orange groves in Homestead. Pulled out many bodies.

And then in Haiti, after Hurricane Gordon, did the same damn thing again.

Kelli58 09-18-2008 12:50 PM

As of right now they are saying 15 dead so far but this does not include Galveston island. In that they won't specifically answer. One source says 19, another one says 7. At least that's what they are saying right this minute.

However early on they were saying they expected to find hundreds when the water levels go down because in that area they estimate about 10,000 didn't leave and that entire island was under water. Now when that is brought up they either won't answer at all or simply say we don't know what happened to those people. All we can do is hope for the best.

pornguy 09-18-2008 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBR Richard (Post 14776191)
any links?

I have never really looked on line for any, I think Wikipedia talks about the tower being destroyed and the last recorded speeds that were official.

The thing about andrew was not so much the speed of the winds or what not., It was the fact that they covered up the deaths of the immigrant workers. Those people lives in tin shacks and they were blown away. Those people refused to go to a shelter for fear of being deported.

As for the winds. 28 police cars that were blow away, and never found. 1 was found on the beach in the gulf. It was blown from Florida City PD parking lot. Look on a may and check out the distance. Tell me than that 170 mph winds did that.

pornguy 09-18-2008 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 14776266)
Really? I was there as well. We had cadavar dogs and went thru what was left of immigrant housing near the orange groves in Homestead. Pulled out many bodies.

And then in Haiti, after Hurricane Gordon, did the same damn thing again.

Yep. I was attached to a PJ group that was helping MetroDade Search and Rescue for the first 5 days after the storm. The PJ's then left, and was continued on.

There were not enough freezers for the bodies.

The only thing left on US1 in Florida City was the Miami subs, and a Hotel. Dont rmember the name of it. The building right next to the miami subs was GONE.

Fletch XXX 09-18-2008 01:06 PM

humans are only worth their taxes and their vote to those who lead the sheep

ADL Colin 09-18-2008 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 14776081)
more than 30 people with weather tracking devices reported that. And it was ALL over the news for a week or so, and then one day, GONE.

You better call the Guiness Book of World Records. The fastest surface wind ever recorded by an anemometer was 231 mph. And that was a gust (NOT a sustained wind) on top of a mountain. That record had held for over 70 years.

Also, it is just not feasible for a hurricane to reach sustained winds of 300 mph on earth. The oceans would have to be warmer and the average surface pressures lower. Theory and observation are in agreement on this. Kerry Emanuel's work suggests a top sustained wind speed of about 200 mph for a hurricane given present conditions on earth. In addition there have been many hundreds of recon missions into hurricane eyewalls and the top sustained wind speed recorded is somewhere around 200 mph. Not known exactly since flight level winds are a little higher than surface and they have to be reduced in calculation.

Many airports have anemometers with top readings of 100 knots. About 115 mph. It is just not feasible that there were dozens of people with super expensive anemometers that measured record breaking 300 mph winds and that didn't have their houses blown down first. i don't even know if you could purchase an anemometer that could record that. Certainly not with anything any weather enthusiast would typically buy for his/her home.

sltr 09-18-2008 01:10 PM

this is not the time nor place for logic and facts.

there is a conspiracy going on.

SiMpLe 09-18-2008 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 14775985)
If you knew the actual death toll from Andrew you would shit your pants.

I survived Andrew - It was brutle!
Moved back to Vegas right after....

Fletch XXX 09-18-2008 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADL Colin (Post 14776377)
Theory and observation are in agreement on this. Kerry Emanuel's work suggests a top sustained wind speed of about 200 mph for a hurricane given present conditions on earth.

my family still talks about Hurricane Camille.

My grandmother (now deceased told me awesome stories about Hurricane Betsy and Camille)

Camille is still what all hurricanes are measured against.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...1969_track.png

Quote:

On August 17, Camille reached an intense minimum central pressure of 905 mbar (hPa), and it continued to strengthen to a peak of 190 mph (305 km/h) winds (possibly the strongest ever recorded in an Atlantic hurricane). In the hours before landfall, a reconnaissance aircraft was unable to obtain a surface wind report, but it estimated winds of up to 205 mph (335 km/h) and a minimum central pressure
Somehow I think in the future we shall see a more powerful one.

Camille still gives me the chills because I seen family pictures of what 190-205 mph winds can do.

cykoe6 09-18-2008 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 14775854)
I blame this all on BUSH. He fucked up this country so bad.

Even the weather is Bush's fault. :1orglaugh

Fletch XXX 09-18-2008 01:20 PM

190mph winds do this

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...re_Camille.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...er_Camille.jpg

I have family lost houses in Katrina, but if and wehen another of these come to La, bet your ass, there wont be much left now that the wetlands are gone, they used yto protect us.

ADL Colin 09-18-2008 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 14776345)

As for the winds. 28 police cars that were blow away, and never found. 1 was found on the beach in the gulf. It was blown from Florida City PD parking lot. Look on a may and check out the distance. Tell me than that 170 mph winds did that.

Camille. Sustained winds of 190 mph
http://www.linkification.com/camille1.jpg
Camille. Sustained winds of 190 mph
http://www.linkification.com/camille2.jpg

Ike. Sustained winds of 120 mph.
http://www.linkification.com/ike1.jpg
Ike. Sustained winds of 120 mph.
http://www.linkification.com/ike2.jpg

NickPapageorgio 09-18-2008 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADL Colin (Post 14776465)

A Three Hour Tour...A Three Hour Tour...

Fletch XXX 09-18-2008 01:32 PM

Heres the one my grandma talked the most about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Betsy

To anyone who doesnt know the history of this area, the 9th ward was once a white and black area. After Hurricane betsy destroyed it in 1965, whites moved to better areas and the low income blacks took over. Which is why before Hurricane Katrina and even now, white people dont go back there. Before Hurricane katrina, if my white boy ass would be caught in the lower 9th, I wouldnt even make it out with my shoes.

the 9th ward was destroyed long ago, and this is where the term "Betsy Axe" comes from - meaning, before you drown, you better kep an axe in your attic to break through your roof.

Did you see how many drowned in the 9th ward during Katrina because they didnt learn the lesson of the past?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Betsy

My gransdfather told me before he died, "why them people didnt learn back in 65 is beyond me"

History repeats itself and no doubt, the 9th will flood again one day...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...1965_track.png

gornyhuy 09-18-2008 01:39 PM

I'm staying the fuck away from hurricane ground(s) zero thats for sure.

_Richard_ 09-18-2008 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 14776345)
I have never really looked on line for any, I think Wikipedia talks about the tower being destroyed and the last recorded speeds that were official.

The thing about andrew was not so much the speed of the winds or what not., It was the fact that they covered up the deaths of the immigrant workers. Those people lives in tin shacks and they were blown away. Those people refused to go to a shelter for fear of being deported.

As for the winds. 28 police cars that were blow away, and never found. 1 was found on the beach in the gulf. It was blown from Florida City PD parking lot. Look on a may and check out the distance. Tell me than that 170 mph winds did that.

with the fact they were immigrants, that would make sense. unfortunate :(

Fletch XXX 09-18-2008 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by gornyhuy (Post 14776552)
I'm staying the fuck away from hurricane ground(s) zero thats for sure.

call me heartless but home prices dropped so much after katrina, I had to buy in LOL

Prices are just now climbing back and already homes on our street are worth MORE than before katrina, and including ours. My area has never flooded and therefore prices are going up... you can buy homes here fo so cheap if you really know the area and where to buy.

stepping stone into Cali baby

baddog 09-18-2008 01:46 PM

I hope you are right. If there were 1,000's that died because they were too stupid to pay attention when told to leave the gene pool is that much cleaner today.

ADL Colin 09-18-2008 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 14776436)
Camille is still what all hurricanes are measured against.

Still the Storm of all Storms in my book.

LisaWP 09-18-2008 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin (Post 14776092)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

ADL Colin 09-18-2008 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 14776576)
call me heartless but home prices dropped so much after katrina, I had to buy in LOL

If Bush has a weather machine he should push the red button. Need to knock down some of the "inventory"

Fletch XXX 09-18-2008 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin (Post 14776610)
If Bush has a weather machine he should push the red button. Need to knock down some of the "inventory"

the trick is knowing where and what does and doesnt flood.

Insurance companies wont write "new policies" here, so you need to know what you are doing and you can easily walk away with a nice profit. But if your home ever got water,... good luck...

We live in Jefferson Parish, and as of right now it is the wealthiest parish in the state and the population is booming, new military bases etc... lots of new families moving in.

My plan was to move here, spend some much overdue time with family and then slip on out of here and wait for those cali prices to drop a little then buy there.

All is going very much to plan as of now...

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With the tumult of Hurricane Katrina's aftermath finally subsiding, Jefferson Parish homes and businesses enjoyed a surge in value this year, assessor Lawrence Chehardy said.

"It's the property values," he said. "They're just higher today than they've ever been. While the market's slow . . . it's inflation. It's location. It's the usual factors."
http://www.nola.com/timespic/stories...850.xml&coll=1

cherrylula 09-18-2008 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin (Post 14776610)
If Bush has a weather machine he should push the red button. Need to knock down some of the "inventory"

I read today that one in three properties in the city of New Orleans is blight.

ADL Colin 09-18-2008 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by NickPapageorgio (Post 14776491)
A Three Hour Tour...A Three Hour Tour...

LOLOLOL!

ADL Colin 09-18-2008 02:58 PM

Fletch, I was checking out New Orleans on Google Earth just a few weeks ago. Down by the Industrial Canal. Holy shit!

Mike Honcho 09-18-2008 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin (Post 14776021)
You mean the conspiracy story written by the person who claimed that Andrew's sustained winds were really 300 mph? Even though hurricanes are currently limited to maximum sustained winds of about 200 mph on earth -- given current oceanic heat content?

No, he's talking about the hundreds of thousands of migrant workers who lived in shacks that could be blown down in a gusty afternoon. Their the ones who were never reported to any of the news agency's when the actual death toll was calculated.

My dad owns farm land in Homestead, FL.... Believe me when I say there were piles of dead bodies, just like the rubble.


Nice try though, smart guy. :2 cents:

ADL Colin 09-18-2008 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Honcho (Post 14777008)
No, he's talking about the hundreds of thousands of migrant workers who lived in shacks that could be blown down in a gusty afternoon. Their the ones who were never reported to any of the news agency's when the actual death toll was calculated.

My dad owns farm land in Homestead, FL.... Believe me when I say there were piles of dead bodies, just like the rubble.


Nice try though, smart guy. :2 cents:

I knew exactly which story he was talking about. Didn't you read our conversation about the 300 mph winds?

pornguy 09-18-2008 03:23 PM

Myabe this will help some people understand that there is way to much we dont know about storms.

Not only did someone post that NOAA has on record winds from a storm above 200mph, but imagine the speed that this took.


http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gifs/1992andrew6.gif


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