Franck...are you ALWAYS going to be a little bitch?
 

all you fucking do is CRY and fucking WHINE constantly...about anything and everything.....you remind me of the fucking ANTI's...the internet police...who fucking appointed you by the way??


If the product was so bad...how come WE are not getting ANY complaints.....
i can install and uninstall it all fucking day.....

They pay us FLAT FEE for our exits...we allow no installs directly from our sites....

Cmon.....give it a fucking rest......

Good Stuff Jim :thumbsup :thumbsup

As much as I dislike him it appears he was right about this ransomware bullshit. You are only upset because Epic has been caught in bed with them.

Thousands of people are saying the opposite, as well as the bloody terms of the program itself.

http://www.moviepass.tv/terms.html

Didn't take you long to show your fucking face either.....you guys take every shot you can at Epic and we always come out on top...we do good business and make $$ and it fucking drives you nuts doesn't it?

We are in bed with NO ONE we simply sell the exits to the highest bidders...strictly business.....

I also do biz with MANY other exit brokers...and when someone ups the anty..they will be on the exit then...that is the way it is.....

paranoid much

Translation= you don't care what they do as long as you get paid.

oh well, I dont know. I am here for my sig .

ummm...yeah.....listen idiot...i installed and uninstalled the product several times before allowing it....that is biz....

I am sure before this thread is over the rest of the Epic haters will come out of the woodwork also.....but its o.k..... we will continue to prosper cause we turn the extra exit $$ back to our affiliates in the form of higher payouts...and from the looks of sales lately we must be doing something right....stick around a bit..you may learn something....:pimp

Did you let it go past the 3 days?

Sorry, but although Franck is at times a bit of a bitch, if a program's shit is tight there would be no way for the Franck's of this world to take shots at it.

He seems to have several valid points. Instead of avoiding his accusations and talking about all the happy satisfied clients they have mabye the program owners should be directiy addressing his points?

No one from the program seems to want to step up and address this redirecting of firefox users, for example. Personally, whether it's 5% or 8 or 10%, I don't care... it would be traffic of mine that is lost..... and basically stolen if we're being real here.

Guys like Franck may be a pain in the ass at times, but they also keep programs on their toes, and more honest.

Jim ... Franck is right on this one. There is even an article in the fucking washingtonpost dude...

You shouldn't be sending thoses guys traffic but ... affiliates can always turn consoles off if they aren't happy with the site you are sending traffic too right ?

Do the ANTI still exist ? Remind me of the old days.

You're sending unsuspecting surfers to their sites in exchange for payment. You're helping them fuck people over. That's how I see it.

But I am also willing to accept that maybe you didn't have full knowledge of what they were up to. Still might be a chance to save face for some of those listed sponsors. :winkwink:

It doesn't matter if Franck is right or if the Washington Post is right . . . they paid Epic and that is all Jim cares about. He said so himself.

End of story.

Luc is a baller..yo

He may be an idiot at times but he was right.. I definately don't supoprt installs like this and so far you guys are on the wrong side of this issue.

what a calamity.

Personal attacks to discredit business people on GFY don't do much nowdays... just this thread with a dozen people backing Franck up do the job itself.

We must be haters if we disagree on this issue. It isn't possible that they made a mistake.

Not sure if I understand your post. The only personal attacks I have seen in this thread (2) are both coming from Jim.

lets all hold ands and just laugh at canada


lol canada

I love Epic and send a good chunk of my traffic to you, as well as submit to linklists run by your company. Having said that, I'm very put off by this whole situation.

I understand the concept of the bottomline. I send traffic to Epic, despite all the negativity (deserved or not) surrounding the company, because they pay well and convert. But if the allegations about WD are true (and they seem to be), then I'd pull my traffic from any program supporting them.

Dre...that may be the case but with this cast of "usual suspects" i go into every fight with the "i am right" attitude....

lets see:
Franck
Baddog
Candyflip...

any minute we will see

circlekhabib
damian2001...etc...etc....you can almost set your clock by them....

So my fight is really mostly with the same ..tired..imagination lacking post whores who still think that dragging Epic through the mud will get their post counts up.....

And yes...affiliates have the right to make any decisions they like on our program..and we do everything we can to keep making them the most money...

And if WE see anything wrong with ANYTHING on our sites...we will remove it immediately....

A lot of programs go through trial and error to get where they are...some work out the details...some do not..in this case i have seen nothing wrong with this install SINCE WE HAVE BEEN RUNNING IT!!!

not last year..or even 6 months ago...just the past 60 days....

But in light of this i will do some more homework and have closer look...
Still does not change the fact of who we will see bashing Epic every chance they get.....goes with the territory..

the antis are still out there and you would be amazed at the lengths they go to....

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Kriss...if you feel this strongly about it...hit me up...i can turn off your exits and still pay you the regular rate..ther are always ways to go about getting things accomplished....

If there are RECENT allegations we will also investigate and draw our conclusions...but i feel it is unfair to bash a program based on something we have seen no problem with in its current incarnation...

If its legal, & the fine print is there to be read. I don't see the issue.

if it was strictly about $ and you didn't give a shit where the surfer went why did you bother to:

"i installed and uninstalled the product several times before allowing it"

why do you care?

Stop being a fucking idiot. When was the last time you saw me out to bash Epic? My participation in this thread had nothing to do with bashing Epic and I don't think you will find many instances where I have ever agreed with Franck in the past.

I'm just kind of curious what would make you download and test the thing out without really having a reason to? I would never really think of doing that. If I was dealing with somebody I trusted I would just take their word for it until I heard reason to look into it. I know its naive and not very thorough... but thats just me. I certainly don't join every paysite network I promote and I never signed up for the free ezines I send traffic to.

and where exactly did i say i do not care about the surfers?

That still means that you support installing RansomWare on surfer machines regardless of whether or not you turn off someones exits. And that software could turn that surfers machine into a spamming machine at any moment. Given the bad history of this type of stuff in this industry I'm suprised anyone would have any involvement with it. I guess don't ask don't tell is great business practice.

Franck and baddog are both douche bags, but they are right. :)

Ones actions are what communicates their ethics, morals, intent etc.

hehehehe, aint you a little too easy with those thoughts?

No one is gonna read a disclaimers text of a couple thousands of "fine print" disclaimer words before installing. I'm sure they're covered it all legally but that doesn't mean that it's morally ok. I think Franck has a point here eventhough he likes to snap at people.

My exits are off already. That's not the issue. Even if my exits are off, hundreds of other webmasters have them on, which means tens of thousands of computers having this software installed on them. And if the allegations prove to be true, then that's tens of thousands of computers infected by scumware that Epic Cash helped propogate in the name of the mighty dollar. That's the issue.

I'm not bashing your program. But based on what I've read tonight and what others have pointed out, this software isn't as harmless as some are making it out to be. You say you'll investigate further, and I believe it. And I trust that if the allegations are true, the program will be pulled from your exits.

:) .......

jim I have no issues with you, but your boss is a cock sucker.. However you are wrong on this one.. If I hadn't already pulled by Epic Cash links over pimpledog calling me a pedo on this board, I'd pull them over something like this being in an exit chain.

The same goes for any other programs that include this program in their exit chains. If you read their TOS it tells you every thing you need to know about what they are doing someone in another thread put it best, when they called it extortion ware.

They are giving you a very limited time to un-install it then if you don't you have to pay to un-install it. This is down right some nasty unethical shit.

We have enough enimies in this biz do we really need to give the govt more free ammo just so you guys can make a quick buck?

I also find it funny on the consumer complaint pages....everyone has a very elaborate story & aliby

Like

I was taking my kids to mcdonalds....i was gone 3 hours, i came home & there it was.

This are the same complaining bitchass fucks that chargeback our sites & say the mailman snuck in their house & used their cc/ip address

i say fuck em....read the fine print

Just send to TWINS.

Nevermind those nasty toolbar things.

I believe the implication came here....

but wtf do I know? see sig

Don't know about you but before I promote anything I'l make sure it's good ... test signups etc.

I guess Jim is still looking for threads that I have bashed Epic in.

No.....not at all...i was happily laying in bead....thinking about why Franck is not here to step up.....:1orglaugh

Man, I've nothing against EpicCash, as a matter of fact we promote it, not heavily but still more than the average Joe, so it's nothing against EC. Still, I'm convinced you're fucking up with this and you attitude is not helping at all. Instead of taking a pro approach, say you'll investigate what's going on, make some kind of securities for your affiliates and things like that, you come all cocky that you're in the right against thousands and thousands of opinions.

Furthermore, I don't know the degree of involvement with this people, but how do yo know they're not fucking with your business as well? It's not like they seem too ethical, so chances are you're being fucked in the ass right now and you're jumping for them without a tiny bit of research. That, or you know the scheme pretty well to feel safe, which means all your affiliates should be very concerned about this

Anyway, a change in your atittude wouldn't harm you. FWIW my 2 rupees :2 cents:

Alan...please see:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=611082
in regards to my stance.....

I will also be the first sponsor to step up and say so.....

You have to know the history to understand the attitude....some folks on this board just get tiresome with the same old crap....

http://securityresponse.symantec.com...n.muvipaz.html

Symantec considers it a virus.

Doesn't he live in Europe?

how does Francks cock taste?....dont forget...suck..suck...SWALLOW...breathe....

On the same computer? With the same IP?

What the fuck is your problem? I've never bashed EpicCash and this has nothing to do with Franck. Franck isn't even the one that pointed out the issue with moviepass, it was someone else.